The Life of Brian.

[Swoop]

Well.
There is a documentary screening on Thursday the 17th on TV3. Inside New Zealand : The Life of Brian. (Brian Tamaki).

Fu*king brilliant title! Who ever thought that one up deserves a knighthood!

The similarities between Monty Python and BT are superb. A case of mistaken identity on both counts...

I think a good laugh at this knobend is in order. Must go and set the video.

[Number One]

I can't stand that knob head! The amoung of crap that falls out the guys mouth is stunning. Reckon Destiny is a cult.

[Pussy]

I can't stand that knob head! The amoung of crap that falls out the guys mouth is stunning. Reckon Destiny is a cult.

Don't hold back, Number One, how do you REALLY feel about Brian Tamaki?... :laugh:

[Number One]

Don't hold back, Number One, how do you REALLY feel about Brian Tamaki?... :laugh:
:lol: you know me - I am nothing if not STRAIGHT UP! I don't care for beating around the bush, find subtlety at times is a waste of energy and I do call a spade a fucking shovel...alright?! :laugh:

[Hitcher]

If this becomes a religious rant thread, it will be merged with the Scottish Thread.

[Big Dave]

That would be a nice gesture for McJimmy's birthday.

[alanzs]

They already named an estuary after him, what else can you ask for?

[Mully]

He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

[ynot slow]

Any religion where you are compelled to donate a percentage of income is not a religion,it is a money making rip off of true religion.

All for the so called legit religions passing the plate around mid service,as it is your choice to donate.This fucktard is a money making genius(wanker)whatever your choice,but ya gotta wonder his desciples bestowing gifts for him.

He really got it good when he captured Mark (bull)Allen to his ranks,gave a bit of respect to his cause having an ex all black.The only thing most agree with him was the anti-smacking protest.

[peasea]

If this becomes a religious rant thread, it will be merged with the Scottish Thread.

What if Brian Tamaki is a closet Hindu Scot? What then?

[rat biker 08]

All i can say is who gives a SHIT...:zzzz:

[peasea]

Tamaki is a dangerous man IMHO. We'd better give a shit coz if we don't he'll keep climbing the ladder. Better to know the enemy.

[CookMySock]

Tamaki is a dangerous man IMHO.Why ?

DB

[peasea]

Why ?

DB


I feel he plays on people who are seeking 'something' and seeks financial gain at the same time. With the cash he pulls he furthers his cause, all in the name of 'god'.

Just watch this guy, see what turns up. I simply don't think his motivation is all above board.

[Madmax]

I managed to hit him with a egg at a rally<_< (wish it was something harder)

[Swoop]

Without Brian, hair gel, fancy tailored suits and expensive car sales would plummet.

[ynot slow]

I managed to hit him with a egg at a rally<_< (wish it was something harder)

.50 cal bullet from 2km away?

[Badjelly]

If this becomes a religious rant thread, it will be merged with the Scottish Thread.

As Hamlet (http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/flies-wanton-boys-we-gods) might have said

As flies to wanton boys are we to th' mods

They PD us for their sport.

[pete376403]

I managed to hit him with a egg at a rally<_< (wish it was something harder)

off topic but - MadMax, did you ever finish the H2 / ZXR750 thing? Ever get any more photos of it?

[Laava]

Is Tamaki the next Graham Capill?

[vifferman]

Wears all the post-match commentary? [insert spudwhat emoticodweebicon here]

[Number One]

Wears all the post-match commentary? [insert spudwhat emoticodweebicon here]
+ 1

I can't stand the guy but dammit I was curious. Anyway I forgot all about it but consoled myself with the knowledge that there would be some report back from those that did watch it. WTF :angry: :lol:

[Swoop]

The F word is taped and the doco on 20/20 about the kidnapped woman was watched with occasional visitations to the god botherer. Not impressed...

[Deano]

What's the difference between Jesus and Brian Tamaki ?

Jesus doesn't strut around heaven thinking he is Brian Tamaki.

[Skyryder]

Was going to watch it but Tamiki is of no interest to me. If those s who follow him want to give up their hard earned cash and substatute their own brain for his that's their loss on both counts. My own thoughts on the man is that of a peacock minus it's tail; something is missing but the 'peacock' has not noticed becasue he is unable to look back due to restrictions of vanity.


Skyryder

[JimO]

he has a harley and i heard he is a closet kb member so the big Q is which one is he???????

[enigma51]

he has a harley and i heard he is a closet kb member so the big Q is which one is he???????

Edbear posing as a JW

[nodrog]

....and the doco on 20/20 about the kidnapped woman was watched .....

dammit i missed that! did they give any instructions/clues on how this box was made, ie dimensions/materials?

[Winston001]

Any religion where you are compelled to donate a percentage of income is not a religion, it is a money making rip off of true religion.


Mmmm.....not necessarily. Many religions expect tithing from members (usually one tenth of income = tithe) so that they can build temples, support teachers etc. Think of it as being like a voluntary tax. The idea is ancient and predates tax systems - it worked when whole communities belonged to a particular religion.

I'm deeply suspicious of Tamati and other charismatic religious leaders who hold out their hands for money. Remember the Moonies?

[enigma51]

dammit i missed that! did they give any instructions/clues on how this box was made, ie dimensions/materials?

I told my missus to take notes so as soon as i receive them i will pass it on

[peasea]

he has a harley and i heard he is a closet kb member so the big Q is which one is he???????

There's nothing Harley Davidson on that bike, it's all aftermarket.

[nodrog]

I told my missus to take notes so as soon as i receive them i will pass it on

cheers bro. it was nice of you to untie hers hands so she could write the notes, you are a good sort.

[peasea]

Mmmm.....not necessarily. Many religions expect tithing from members (usually one tenth of income = tithe) so that they can build temples, support teachers etc. Think of it as being like a voluntary tax. The idea is ancient and predates tax systems - it worked when whole communities belonged to a particular religion.

I'm deeply suspicious of Tamati and other charismatic religious leaders who hold out their hands for money. Remember the Moonies?

Building temples and paying teachers is one thing but twin 150hp Yammies on a flash-looking Rayglass? How's the humility of the man? A Chrysler 300C for getting about in, no Trebants here matey.

However, on the flip side, if all that has come from his own business ventures then good on him, I'm not going to get jealous of someone who can make a buck. If that cash has entered his wallet under the guise of doing 'gods' work then he's a cock.

[peasea]

.....and..........
My uncle was a Mill Hill Missionary, travelled the world converting people etc, doing what he did, and he owned nothing.

[nodrog]

There's nothing Harley Davidson on that bike, it's all aftermarket.

jesus built his hotrod

[Deano]

However, on the flip side, if all that has come from his own business ventures then good on him, I'm not going to get jealous of someone who can make a buck. If that cash has entered his wallet under the guise of doing 'gods' work then he's a cock.

Google Brian Tamaki.

There's a newspaper report about him allegedly ripping off $300,000 from a couple. (Only one side of the story of course)

He also made the Women's Weekly least trusted person list in 06 and 07.

Have people never heard about the American Evangelists of the 80's ripping people off ? Talk about gullible.

[peasea]

Womans Weekly, my favourite!

[nodrog]

Womans Weekly, my favourite!

same, its heaps better than Womens Monthly.

[Goblin]

Have people never heard about the American Evangelists of the 80's ripping people off ? Talk about gullible.Yup, and he and his wife are laughing all the way to the bank. Jim and Tammy Faye Baker all over.

[Skyryder]

Mmmm.....not necessarily. Many religions expect tithing from members (usually one tenth of income = tithe) so that they can build temples, support teachers etc. Think of it as being like a voluntary tax. The idea is ancient and predates tax systems - it worked when whole communities belonged to a particular religion.

I'm deeply suspicious of Tamati and other charismatic religious leaders who hold out their hands for money. Remember the Moonies?


Tithing is a relative new phenomenon in the Christian Church. Jesus himself never required his disciple to tithe.

Tithing is a practice that is rooted deep in the Jewish faith. The first mention of tithing is in Gen 14:20 and has to do with the ‘Goods of War.’ Paul in Epistle to the Hebrews Heb 7:1-10 speaking of the same event, war booty is tithed but it is only the sons of Levi who are authorized to take tithes from the people and no mention of what the tithe consisted was. In the same passage Paul in Heb. 7:6 asserts that those not of the tribe of Levi have the right to ‘receive’ tithes. Paul on his own with no instruction from God or the Christ authorizes the ‘right’ of non Levi’s to receive tithes.

Tithing is nothing but a rort perpetrated by those abusing their spiritual authority to the less fortunate than themselves. It has found increasing favour amongst the American Evangelical Churches and those Christians whose espouse that the Bible is the ‘literal’ Word of God.

Skyryder

[Maha]

Google Brian Tamaki.

There's a newspaper report about him allegedly ripping off $300,000 from a couple. (Only one side of the story of course)

He also made the Women's Weekly least trusted person list in 06 and 07.

Have people never heard about the American Evangelists of the 80's ripping people off ? Talk about gullible.


I had a young fulla working for me years ago in Rotorua. He turned to Lake City Church (before it became Destiny) They started out in a disused bakery I think? but moved into the Odeon Theatre and totally revamp it. They had some American Evangelists there once, the ones that blow up hot water bottles and rip telephone books in half etc. Turned out to be a big money raising benefit for Pastor and Pastry Tamaki, they needed a holiday in Hawaii. The money bags were past around and collected, but get this, they were past around again after about 1/2 an hour because they didnt have enough. The struggling suckers that had already given, were asked to give again and the motivation was... '' Give again people, who here wants Pastor Brain to have good holiday in Hawaii''??.....or words to that effect. This from someone who was there at the time.

[Goblin]

I had a young fulla working for me years ago in Rotorua. He turned to Lake City Church (before it became Destiny) They started out in a disused bakery I think? but moved into the Odeon Theatre and totally revamp it. A friend of a friend who cleaned a certain motel they frequently stay at has overheard the pair of them laughing hysterically at how gullible people are. Disappointed there was no mention of his pot growing days in the doco.

[MSTRS]

These people operate on the premise that a fool and his money are soon parted, that there is a fool born every minute, and there'll always be another along shortly.
Exposing them for what they are does no good cos the fools will never be convinced of their own stupidity and will continue to give their (hard?)earned to people like Tamaki.
Have and will IRD investigate him for tax fraud?

[Maha]

A friend of a friend who cleaned a certain motel they frequently stay at has overheard the pair of them laughing hysterically at how gullible people are. Disappointed there was no mention of his pot growing days in the doco.

Had another bloke that worked for me....he used to work for a wholesalers and told me he had once delivered a palet of piss to Tamaki's house in Sophia st (when he lived there) guess he dont anymore? He didnt mention anything about Pearly Gates though?....:rolleyes:

[peasea]

Tithing is a relative new phenomenon in the Christian Church. Jesus himself never required his disciple to tithe.

Tithing is a practice that is rooted deep in the Jewish faith. The first mention of tithing is in Gen 14:20 and has to do with the ‘Goods of War.’ Paul in Epistle to the Hebrews Heb 7:1-10 speaking of the same event, war booty is tithed but it is only the sons of Levi who are authorized to take tithes from the people and no mention of what the tithe consisted was. In the same passage Paul in Heb. 7:6 asserts that those not of the tribe of Levi have the right to ‘receive’ tithes. Paul on his own with no instruction from God or the Christ authorizes the ‘right’ of non Levi’s to receive tithes.

Tithing is nothing but a rort perpetrated by those abusing their spiritual authority to the less fortunate than themselves. It has found increasing favour amongst the American Evangelical Churches and those Christians whose espouse that the Bible is the ‘literal’ Word of God.

Skyryder

Done a bit of reading have ya?

Can't help but agree with your last paragraph. The bible is an interpretation and when people saw a few weird things go down (parting of the red sea etc etc) they put it all down to god because it was the only way they could come to grips with it all.

If Tamaki and his god-bothering mates could get together with the Sensing Murder crew we could have a world devoid of premarital sex and they'd KNOW when and where you were tossing off.

[bert_is_evil]

I loved the bit where he pretended to have lost all memory of having run from the cops and lost his license for it, how convenient. Kept saying "I honestly can't remember that".

I agree he is a very dangerous man, it worries me to know he could get a seat in parliament.

[tri boy]

so destiny church has been sucking in the dollars while the economy was up, is he now going to fund soup vans for his followers when they start hitting the poverty line?
A decent christian would wouldn't they?
I won't hold my breath.:oi-grr:

[enigma51]

cheers bro. it was nice of you to untie hers hands so she could write the notes, you are a good sort.

Give a little take a little

[peasea]

I loved the bit where he pretended to have lost all memory of having run from the cops and lost his license for it, how convenient. Kept saying "I honestly can't remember that".

I agree he is a very dangerous man, it worries me to know he could get a seat in parliament.


That cracked me up, I've been nabbed in some very sorry states but I can remember all the times I've been arrested, yet he can't recall ONE? Bullshit.

I also noticed his missus eating during an interview; Christian manners perhaps?

[HenryDorsetCase]

I feel he plays on people who are seeking 'something' and seeks financial gain at the same time. With the cash he pulls he furthers his cause,

So, he is a shopkeeper? I used to get wound up about this stuff but now I dont. Its like all the sorts of deviancy that are out there that I dont practise: as long as they dont do it in the streets and frighten the horses, and as long as its consenting adults, then as far as I am concerned they can do what they want.

I would be pissed off if they tried to impose their rather odd world view on mine, but as long as my telly has an "off" button that seems unlikely.

I don't care for Mr Tamaki personally, however. Even though he is a fellow bicyclist of the motoring pursuasion.

[peasea]

So, he is a shopkeeper? I used to get wound up about this stuff but now I dont. Its like all the sorts of deviancy that are out there that I dont practise: as long as they dont do it in the streets and frighten the horses, and as long as its consenting adults, then as far as I am concerned they can do what they want.

I would be pissed off if they tried to impose their rather odd world view on mine, but as long as my telly has an "off" button that seems unlikely.

I don't care for Mr Tamaki personally, however. Even though he is a fellow bicyclist of the motoring pursuasion.

Yeah, true enough, I've said I don't mind him having millions if the cash came from his business dealings. I just get annoyed at people who prey on those who are.......hmmm, less inclined to 'go their own way'.

What people do on Sunday (or behind closed doors) is their business.

You're right about the 'off' button but in this case curosity killed the cat.

[awayatc]

on the flip side, if all that has come from his own business ventures then good on him, I'm not going to get jealous of someone who can make a buck. If that cash has entered his wallet under the guise of doing 'gods' work then he's a cock.


The way different churches divide the collections :

Catholic church:
Priest goes: 1 for me, one for God....one for me, one for god

Jewish:
Rabbi draws a 1 meter circle on the ground, throws all the money in the air, what lands inside the circle is Gods,what lands outside goes to the Rabbi...

Brian Tamaki:
Throws the whole lot into the air, and yells out loud:
Here God, take whatever you need...........:bye::scooter:

[Goblin]

I would be pissed off if they tried to impose their rather odd world view on mine, but as long as my telly has an "off" button that seems unlikely.
But the really scary thing is they have schools where they're teaching their young all this bollocks. She even fancies herself a bit of a match-maker so is actually breeding God's Army.:shit: God help us if he ever gets into gubmint.:pinch:

[Madmax]

dont get me started on this f**ker again :devil2:

[Skyryder]

Done a bit of reading have ya?

Can't help but agree with your last paragraph. The bible is an interpretation and when people saw a few weird things go down (parting of the red sea etc etc) they put it all down to god because it was the only way they could come to grips with it all.

If Tamaki and his god-bothering mates could get together with the Sensing Murder crew we could have a world devoid of premarital sex and they'd KNOW when and where you were tossing off.

I was bought up as a Baptist so have a 'little' knowledge of the old testament.

Skyryder

[KoroJ]

I can't say Destiny is my cup-of-tea, but you do need to give the man his due.......it appears Destiny has dragged a lot of people out out of gangs and off the dole, so it's not all bad and it is their choice to give.

...and as Ziggy Ziglar says, "If there's a hypocrite between you and God, the hypocrite is closer to Him"!

He does ride a chopper but!......that's really poor form.

[Mom]

I can't say Destiny is my cup-of-tea, but you do need to give the man his due.......it appears Destiny has dragged a lot of people out out of gangs and off the dole, so it's not all bad and it is their choice to give.


Be careful with those thoughts mate, you could be the next person that gets ripped off by one of his converts! I once employed a woman she used to be a serious drug addict but became born again when she found Jesus and welcomed him into her life. All good so far, she was "saved".

Her only purpose in life now is to evict Satan from her life and anyone else she comes into contact with. Her questions to me and others were based around our beliefs, when she discovered we did not share her exact same doctrine, she changed. She became surley and uncommunicative and started not doing her job as well as she had been, cut everycorner she could.

I am a decent sort of a person really, and rented her one of my houses at a very reduced rate, allowed her 2 dogs there, all sorts of things to give her a hand up. She came to me one day and said she was leaving, ok says me. I had a new baby at the timeand was up to my eyeballs in new motherhood when this woman came to give me back the keys to the hosue. Yes it was all clean, yes everything was fine. I gave her a cash cheque for the bond (yeah I know a dumb thing to do, but she was a decent christian woman eh, not the sort to do the dirty?) without checking the house. She said she was not sure of the exact house number she was going to be staying at, but she would ring me with it later in the day. All good.

Feed baby, bundle in car and go out to the house. Absolute disaster, you have no idea what a shitty (literally I am talking about too BTW) filty mess, her dogs had chewed the bottom corners off the frenchdoors, carpets ruined unbelievable. Needless to say she never rang me with a forwarding addy, her cell phone no longer connected to the network.

I went to her Pastor to find out where she had gone and to let him know what had happened. While he did not actually say the words to me, I came away knowing that because I did not follow that doctrine I was Satan in disguise, anything they could do to hurt/harm/cost Satan was acceptable! I am being serious here, and have spoken over the years to others that have been done by these types of people. They are not OK, they are subversive and in my opinion actually dangerous.

Destiny is a larger form of the church that this woman belonged to.

[Skyryder]

Be careful with those thoughts mate, you could be the next person that gets ripped off by one of his converts! I once employed a woman she used to be a serious drug addict but became born again when she found Jesus and welcomed him into her life. All good so far, she was "saved".

Her only purpose in life now is to evict Satan from her life and anyone else she comes into contact with. Her questions to me and others were based around our beliefs, when she discovered we did not share her exact same doctrine, she changed. She became surley and uncommunicative and started not doing her job as well as she had been, cut everycorner she could.

I am a decent sort of a person really, and rented her one of my houses at a very reduced rate, allowed her 2 dogs there, all sorts of things to give her a hand up. She came to me one day and said she was leaving, ok says me. I had a new baby at the timeand was up to my eyeballs in new motherhood when this woman came to give me back the keys to the hosue. Yes it was all clean, yes everything was fine. I gave her a cash cheque for the bond (yeah I know a dumb thing to do, but she was a decent christian woman eh, not the sort to do the dirty?) without checking the house. She said she was not sure of the exact house number she was going to be staying at, but she would ring me with it later in the day. All good.

Feed baby, bundle in car and go out to the house. Absolute disaster, you have no idea what a shitty (literally I am talking about too BTW) filty mess, her dogs had chewed the bottom corners off the frenchdoors, carpets ruined unbelievable. Needless to say she never rang me with a forwarding addy, her cell phone no longer connected to the network.

I went to her Pastor to find out where she had gone and to let him know what had happened. While he did not actually say the words to me, I came away knowing that because I did not follow that doctrine I was Satan in disguise, anything they could do to hurt/harm/cost Satan was acceptable! I am being serious here, and have spoken over the years to others that have been done by these types of people. They are not OK, they are subversive and in my opinion actually dangerous.

Destiny is a larger form of the church that this woman belonged to.

Yep and if you ever catch up with her she'll claim the devil made her do it.

The Devil is used as an excuse for their own lack of morality and values.

Skyyrder

[Mom]

Yep and if you ever catch up with her she'll claim the devil made her do it.

The Devil is used as an excuse for their own lack of morality and values.

Skyyrder

Now see that is an interesting slant on the theme. I have heard that one used too! A company I worked for had a noticable decline in sales over couple of months. It was concerning, but no reason could be found until...

A rep tendered his resignation...

You've got it, he was starting a new job with an opposition firm. He took so much business from this company it was not funny. When confronted, he got down on his knees and prayed, he did not respond, he prayed! When he had finished he got up and admitted more than we had discovered, told us the devil made him do it, and that all was sweeet as now as he had prayed for forgiveness and received it!

I best drop this thread actually....LOL

[1 Free Man]

I feel he plays on people who are seeking 'something' and seeks financial gain at the same time. With the cash he pulls he furthers his cause, all in the name of 'god'.

Just watch this guy, see what turns up. I simply don't think his motivation is all above board.
Name for me one of these crazy religious zelots that isn't in it for the money.
Turn on your idiot box on a sunday morning and that's about all you get and their all doing the same thing, GENERATING MONEY !! What make that Tamaki sleezball any different other than the fact that he is our sleezball here in NZ.
If people lead lives that are that sad, and in need of this sort of scum , to bleed their wallets, then they are truely sorry arse people.
But in saying that how can you feel sorry for them if they let themselves be sucked by scum like that.?????

President of the
LOVE BRIAN TAMAKI FAN CLUB.

[peasea]

I can't say Destiny is my cup-of-tea, but you do need to give the man his due.......it appears Destiny has dragged a lot of people out out of gangs and off the dole, so it's not all bad and it is their choice to give.

...and as Ziggy Ziglar says, "If there's a hypocrite between you and God, the hypocrite is closer to Him"!

He does ride a chopper but!......that's really poor form.

Why is riding a chopper "poor form"?

[KoroJ]

Be careful with those thoughts mate, you could be the next person that gets ripped off by one of his converts! I once employed a woman she used to be a serious drug addict but became born again when she found Jesus and welcomed him into her life. All good so far, she was "saved".

Her only purpose in life now is to evict Satan from her life .............................. in car and go out to the house. Absolute disaster, you have no idea what a shitty (literally I am talking about too BTW) filty mess, her dogs had chewed the bottom corners off the frenchdoors, carpets ruined unbelievable. .................. They are not OK, they are subversive and in my opinion actually dangerous.

Destiny is a larger form of the church that this woman belonged to.

Good to see people really embrace their faith huh! That damn Satan obviously put up a bit of a fight, at your expense!



Why is riding a chopper "poor form"?

I think choppers look awesome......but that's it! Might be alright on American Freeways and SH1 here (most of the way) but if you want to go further than the nearest Latte and experience some of the great roads that godzone has to offer, I'm afraid a chopper isn't the way to go. IMHO, chopper riders are just showboaters or big noters and not true bikers.

I welcome the oportunity to be proved wrong but! If Bri' or any of his Chopper Riding bud's are reading this.....I'd love to see them at the next GC, or 4points, or C1KC, or SC or.....the list goes on.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen/passed a chopper on the road here, at least not outside a town road!!

[peasea]

Good to see people really embrace their faith huh! That damn Satan obviously put up a bit of a fight, at your expense!




I think choppers look awesome......but that's it! Might be alright on American Freeways and SH1 here (most of the way) but if you want to go further than the nearest Latte and experience some of the great roads that godzone has to offer, I'm afraid a chopper isn't the way to go. IMHO, chopper riders are just showboaters or big noters and not true bikers.

I welcome the oportunity to be proved wrong but! If Bri' or any of his Chopper Riding bud's are reading this.....I'd love to see them at the next GC, or 4points, or C1KC, or SC or.....the list goes on.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen/passed a chopper on the road here, at least not outside a town road!!

I'd never own one for all the reasons you posted (I'd consider a bobber perhaps) but I still don't see riding a chopper as being "poor form". I could name a few people with choppers who own other, more agile bikes as well and they are most assuredly 'true' bikers. IMHO I would imagine that anyone who labels chopper riders as 'showboaters and big noters' is simply jealous of their bling trappings. Some of the choppers I have come across are triple-figure machines, works of art and a credit to their owners; owners who don't give a rats arse that chops don't go round corners, their other machines can do that for them.

If I had some spare thousands, had other bikes to choose from and enough garage space to house a chop then if I buy/build one does that make ME a 'showboater' and a 'big noter'?

Is riding a Honda ST1300 "poor form", for example?

To each his own.
Cheers.