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Dakara
10th July 2008, 23:12
Yep, after 4 years on 250's I managed to completely destroy my Hyo.
First time on the Coro for me, went with the SMC boys and it started raining not far past Tapu?
Anyway, first tome looper + rain + TF... you get the idea. I don't really wanna get into too many details yet and have certain people abuse me about how its my fault and I got my license at mc donalds etc...
i fucked up, i've learnt a lot from it and have a few weeks in plaster to reflect.
Huge thanks to they lads who kept me safe waiting for the ambo!!! And then braved the rain in the dark too see me in the hospitail at thames! much apprecited guys, I owe you all a few brewskies!
Any, the damage:
Broken right wrist (minor fracture) -hence my poor typing- and a bloody sore leg! If i had 9 lives then i used 8 of them to walk away as unscathed as i did.
My gear, huge rep to Quasi!! Infact, apart from a few scuffs ya wouldn't know they'd been in a bin! Oh and one of the slders ripped off... Knox back protector! Do i owe my life to it?? i'd rather not know, but so glad i was wearing it.
Where to from here? Well I have an 08 CBR600 to collect next month whic i'm a tad nervous about. I think I'm going to avoid the twisties and stay to the open roads for a ggod while... I was given a 2nd chance and it's rea;;y spooked me.
As for the coro loop, doubt I'll be back. 2 attempts so far, first one road was closed by a major cage accident, 2nd time this... I'm not supersticious, but once again, has freaked me out a bit.
Anyway guys, al i have to say is ATTGAT. If this happened a few months ago i would of been in kevlar sliders and no back protector.... very scary thought!
Sorry it's so brief, my main typing hand is fucked, and am pretty bloody sore!
Stay safe guys!
Mikkel
10th July 2008, 23:14
Shit happens. Main thing is you're alright, a bit sore and thinking about what happened.
Heal well :yes:
bikerboy011
10th July 2008, 23:30
Dam good to hear your ok.
The Pastor
10th July 2008, 23:33
don't sweat it dude, everone bins.
Choco
10th July 2008, 23:37
Good to see you got home alright!
Just take it easy with your new bike, it takes a while to get back into it and as long as you don't push it you'll be fine.
See you soon mate!
Choco.
munterk6
10th July 2008, 23:43
well done to survive....learning,learning,learning :woohoo:
Radar
10th July 2008, 23:53
Sorry to hear about your accident but really glad that you are not banged up too bad! Great post, especially considering your typing had is stuffed. Its good to read that someone has actually learned a lot from their bin, and that they are _not_ casting blame somewhere else.
Hope you heal fast, and never have another bin - ever!
fizbin
11th July 2008, 06:54
Glde to hear you alright!
look fwd to seeing you round on you CBR
cowboyz
11th July 2008, 07:20
. I don't really wanna get into details and have certain people abuse me about how its my fault and I got my license at mc donalds etc...
These are the people you want to ride with to keep your headspace tuned in right.
don't sweat it dude, everone bins.
Not these ones.
ital916
11th July 2008, 08:02
I'm glad your okay brother, You gave me a heart attack when I saw it happen. I'll talk more when everything else is sorted. I'm glad your still with us, heal up well and get back on the horse. Learn from your mistakes.
ital916
11th July 2008, 08:04
don't sweat it dude, everone bins.
It's people saying shit like that, that desensitizes riders to a serious issue, to the point where crashing is a joke. I've met riders who are proud to have binned and written off their bikes :oi-grr:. No not everyone bins, when you do, you should stop, learn and make sure that it never happens again.
The Pastor
11th July 2008, 08:26
It's people saying shit like that, that desensitizes riders to a serious issue, to the point where crashing is a joke. I've met riders who are proud to have binned and written off their bikes :oi-grr:. No not everyone bins, when you do, you should stop, learn and make sure that it never happens again.
How long have you been riding for?
The Pastor
11th July 2008, 08:29
These are the people you want to ride with to keep your headspace tuned in right.
Not these ones.
what do you mean not these ones? who are these?
Dakara
11th July 2008, 09:14
These are the people you want to ride with to keep your headspace tuned in right.
Not these ones.
Was more referring to the fact that it really pisses me off when people jump on a bin thread and start yelling "It's your fault" after the rider said "It was my fault" :angry2: And i cbf arguing one handed:laugh:
And not all KB'rs ride like maniacs, just the ones who do are more memorable.
I'm glad your okay brother, You gave me a heart attack when I saw it happen. I'll talk more when everything else is sorted. I'm glad your still with us, heal up well and get back on the horse. Learn from your mistakes.
Cheers mate, you and me both!! After I crawled off the road I remember thinking "Thank god I can still move" then realized my arm was a tad sore... Really appreciate all the support dude!
TOTO
11th July 2008, 09:38
Matt, i say you had a guardian angel buddy who looked after you. I'm usually not supersticious like you also said, but there was something that kept you alive yesterday. Either that or you are shit hot lucky. Buy a lotto ticket.
it was my first big crash beyond my own and as Drider said, we were shit scared too. I'm really glad I didn't see a scenario from ride2die.com, coz thats what i was mostly afraid of.
Heal up quick , and if there is anything you need, dont hasitate to send me a txt. you got my number.
You unlucky but SO LUCKY bastard
Dakara
11th July 2008, 09:51
Matt, i say you had a guardian angel buddy who looked after you. I'm usually not supersticious like you also said, but there was something that kept you alive yesterday. Either that or you are shit hot lucky. Buy a lotto ticket.
it was my first big crash beyond my own and as Drider said, we were shit scared too. I'm really glad I didn't see a scenario from ride2die.com, coz thats what i was mostly afraid of.
Heal up quick , and if there is anything you need, dont hasitate to send me a txt. you got my number.
You unlucky but SO LUCKY bastard
Cheers dude.
Yes, I've had those images in my head also...
There were 2 ways that accident could of gone, and I'm very fortunate to have it go the way it did. Getting back onto a bike wont be a problem as I know where I went wrong, but deciding wether or not [B]I should/B] knowing how lucky I am to have survived, is a bit of a mind fuck.
Cheers for all the help and support bro, and ride safe!!!
TOTO
11th July 2008, 09:55
I'll take you out for a nice slow one when you heal up :niceone:
ital916
11th July 2008, 09:59
I'll take you out for a nice slow one when you heal up :niceone:
Count me in too toto, I liked the pace you set dak, was good fun. Can't wait to see your new bike :cool:.
Dakara
11th July 2008, 09:59
I'll take you out for a nice slow one when you heal up :niceone:
Mission bay twisties sound great!!
Infact, once I get the CBR maybe i should put an extended swing arm on it, drop the springs and a loud exhaust with some sparkly paintjob and just cruise Queen street :rolleyes::whistle:
ital916
11th July 2008, 10:01
How long have you been riding for?
The time one has been riding for does not dictate who is right or wrong.
CookMySock
11th July 2008, 10:26
[....] deciding wether or not I should knowing how lucky I am to have survived, is a bit of a mind fuck.Corse you should. People that shouldn't are people who laugh it off as normal and don't reflect. So don't stress it, and when you are feeling fine then back to it.
We're a curious bunch though, so IF and when you are up to it, do share the story with us. We might learn something from ya as well.
What happens to the Hyo now ?
Steve
Dakara
11th July 2008, 13:10
Corse you should. People that shouldn't are people who laugh it off as normal and don't reflect. So don't stress it, and when you are feeling fine then back to it.
We're a curious bunch though, so IF and when you are up to it, do share the story with us. We might learn something from ya as well.
What happens to the Hyo now ?
Steve
Yea that's what I keep telling myself. Just need to take it slow for a while.
As for the Hyo, I was originally trading it for the CBR when it arrives so fortunately it's insured!
It's in Hikuai at the moment, waiting for the assessor. But no questions that she's a writeoff:
ManDownUnder
11th July 2008, 13:17
shit happens. Main thing is you're alright, a bit sore and thinking about what happened.
Heal well :yes:
+1................!
rachprice
11th July 2008, 13:23
holy shit dude that bike doesnt look good at all, lucky your not in that many pieces aye? Hope you recover well.
Macstar
11th July 2008, 13:29
A good outcome to a scary / sucky situation. Here's a photo of the boys racing wheelchairs in the Thames hospital waiting lounge
can't attach the photo from work PC sorry
Dakara
11th July 2008, 13:29
holy shit dude that bike doesnt look good at all, lucky your not in that many pieces aye? Hope you recover well.
Yea. I would say " If you think that's bad, you should see the other guy!" but he seemed to come off alright:
(yes i bounced off a truck)
Wiki Drifter
11th July 2008, 13:36
It's in Hikuai at the moment, waiting for the assessor. But no questions that she's a writeoff:
bloody 'el!! Looking at the state of your H-bag, you must have an army of guardian angels. :eek5::gob::gob:
DMNTD
11th July 2008, 13:36
(yes i bounced off a truck)
FFS!! You certainly were fortunate to get away with that one!! :gob:
Good to see that you're aware of where you ballsed up.
Heal up mate and buy a freaking Lotto ticket!
firefighter
11th July 2008, 13:41
wow you are so lucky mate, most people would have gone under not bounced off that truck! Pretty much a miracle your alive-and thanks, you just helped me decide whether I really need a back protector....and how good it should be! (won't be skimping on the quality)
rachprice
11th July 2008, 13:42
yeah man someone was definitely looking out for you! well glad your still around!
Qkchk
11th July 2008, 13:43
Must of been a hell-of-a-whack to fracture the front wheel like that. Certainly one lucky chap. I'd be surprised if the truck even felt you....
Dakara
11th July 2008, 13:52
Yea what (I think) happened was I knew I was going to hit him so instead of locking up the brakes and potentially sliding under I kept the bike upright and braced for the in-evitable. Fortunately the angle of impact was such that I bounced off and was thrown from the bike.
Broke my wrist on the initial impact as it was crushed between the bike and the truck.
ital916
11th July 2008, 14:28
Should have got a picture of me trying to pry open the back of your bike to get your stuff out :laugh:, stupid pillion seat was bent on. We picked up bits of your bike ages away, found your brake lever 40m away in the bush, and bits of bike in the truck :gob:. Can i have one of your guardian angels? SO the wrist is broken then..how bad? How long did they say the recovery will be?
gijoe1313
11th July 2008, 14:46
:no: Crikey ... that ain't too good, but glad to hear you are in the land of the living. Rest, heal and deal with the paperwork and the other details. Reflect on the lesson the asphalt and pillion angels have managed to throw together and cut out the fun stuff okay?
Not too many get to walk away from an encounter like that! :shit:
Dakara
11th July 2008, 15:14
Yea Toto was saying, must of been when the front hit his wheel. I think I used up all my angel credits for a while.
marioc
11th July 2008, 15:16
oh wow poor wee Hyo.
Thank god you are okay!
Dakara
11th July 2008, 15:20
:no: Crikey ... that ain't too good, but glad to hear you are in the land of the living. Rest, heal and deal with the paperwork and the other details. Reflect on the lesson the asphalt and pillion angels have managed to throw together and cut out the fun stuff okay?
Not too many get to walk away from an encounter like that! :shit:
Yea, think I might start attending track days instead....
mowgli
11th July 2008, 15:26
Will the broken wrist keep you from flying?
Dakara
11th July 2008, 15:59
Will the broken wrist keep you from flying?
Yea, had to advise CAA and have medical suspended, but a suspension only lasts for as long as the current medical is valid and mine expires next week. So once my medical lapses I wont need to get a separate Doctor to authorize me as fit to fly, as the Aviation Doc can when he renews my medical once the plasters off.
If i didn't advise them and they found out (which they will as it's gone through ACC) then wether I fly or not, they can prosecute me.
Grub
11th July 2008, 16:14
So once my medical lapses I wont need to get a separate Doctor to authorize me as fit to fly, as the Aviation Doc can when he renews my medical once the plasters off.
Knowing how cranky CAA medicals can be, I'd suggest organising with your GP to find a Hand Physiotherapist for when you come out of plaster.
It depends of course where the break is, I had two in my hand itself and wouldn't have regained full use if i handn't had an absolutely brilliant hand physio. I still have a mild residual grip strength loss. Hand issues are not the sort of thing you want to fail a medical on.
Dakara
11th July 2008, 16:21
Knowing how cranky CAA medicals can be, I'd suggest organising with your GP to find a Hand Physiotherapist for when you come out of plaster.
It depends of course where the break is, I had two in my hand itself and wouldn't have regained full use if i handn't had an absolutely brilliant hand physio. I still have a mild residual grip strength loss. Hand issues are not the sort of thing you want to fail a medical on.
Yea this wrist had a ligament reconstruction a few years back, so will most likely deal with the same specialist. My Father's a surgeon (rather anti-bikes) so will make sure I get it all sorted properly.
The Pastor
11th July 2008, 16:55
Count me in too toto, I liked the pace you set dak, was good fun. Can't wait to see your new bike :cool:.
Give it 10 years and if you havn't binned, i'll give you $100
Yea what (I think) happened was I knew I was going to hit him so instead of locking up the brakes and potentially sliding under I kept the bike upright and braced for the in-evitable. Fortunately the angle of impact was such that I bounced off and was thrown from the bike.
Broke my wrist on the initial impact as it was crushed between the bike and the truck.
What wonderful non panic mode recollections of what must have been a very scarey moment indeed. A broken wrist is a very tiny price to pay after bouncing off a friggen great big truck! Thank goodness someone was looking out for you! Hope that wrist heals up nice a quickly too!
breakaway
11th July 2008, 17:16
This will slow you down for sure. Every few months you'll think about how it could have gone horribly wrong, and it'll keep you from doing stupid shit.
Dakara
11th July 2008, 17:20
This will slow you down for sure. Every few months you'll think about how it could have gone horribly wrong, and it'll keep you from doing stupid shit.
Yea, was definitely amazing at how much of a wakeup call it was. I used to consider myself a really safe rider. Looking back now, all I can say is "You idiot"
Quasievil
11th July 2008, 17:21
It's in Hikuai at the moment, waiting for the assessor. But no questions that she's a writeoff:
EH ??? no way dude a bit of tape and araldite she will be good as gold.
Oh and your number is NUMBER 69 (lucky you) thats the number of crashes people have crashed in the brand over the last 5 years.........I know Im weird, just keep a mental note for some reason.
Glad youre all good mate, and glad the gear performed to the level required to keep your skin on, I think this situation is a situation of luck !!
now as you suggest go to the trackdays and learn a bit more about riding dude, you will live longer:Punk:
klyong82
11th July 2008, 17:25
:eek5::eek5:holy moly crap.....that is one heck of an accident. The poor Hyosung is in a really bad state I am glad you came out ok :shit::shit: rest for now and heal up.
sinfull
11th July 2008, 17:38
now as you suggest go to the trackdays and learn a bit more about riding dude, you will live longer:Punk:
What he said !!!
Don't matter how many yrs riding ya got behind ya, track work can teach ya truckloads more than ya learn on the road !
Not to mention the fact it becomes addictive !
gunnyrob
11th July 2008, 17:53
Thank god you're o.k. We were worried sick at Tairua when you guys didn't show up. Then to hear you hit the truck......
Bikes can be replaced, you can't.
Mind you, famous last words, "I need to be careful with my Hyo, I'm trading it in next month" must have angered the motorcycling pixies with a bad sense of humour.
Lesson's well learned. Take heart that it wasn't worse, spread the word about the prang so others may learn.
Ill ride with you again any time, heal well, see you soon Matt.
Dakara
11th July 2008, 17:57
Mind you, famous last words, "I need to be careful with my Hyo, I'm trading it in next month" must have angered the motorcycling pixies with a bad sense of humour.
Whenever I'm reminded of that, or think about to myself I can't help but laugh... Sods bloody law :doh:
Thanks mate, I look forward to riding again, but the next group ride I attend (wont be for a while) I plan to hang out at the back...
phaedrus
11th July 2008, 20:02
Yep, after 4 years on 250's I managed to completely destroy my Hyo.
....
Stay safe guys!
Holy shit!!! those hyobags look after their owners in a crash don't they
Skunk
11th July 2008, 22:17
You are one lucky fucker. Don't bother buying a Lotto ticket - you've used your allotment for this year.
Choco
11th July 2008, 22:46
Looking at those pictures all I can say is :shit:
But you do have an awesome party story now :apint:
TOTO
11th July 2008, 22:51
Yea, I was not sure if it was very ethical to take pictures at that critcal moment, but at least now you have something to share and remind you, and something to remind you and all of us we are not bulletproof. Something we forget at times.
I reacon that the plastic fairings have taken some of the force of the impact. not much but probably just enough to save your hand. You lucky lucky bastard.
Yea, was definitely amazing at how much of a wakeup call it was. I used to consider myself a really safe rider. Looking back now, all I can say is "You idiot"
You are are a safe rider. you just forgot that you need to ride your own ride and not be worried about the others. I, just like you learnt the hard way. I seriously hope you get your confidence back, because thats the hardest thing to get back.
Shit! That photo just twists my throat!
All I can say is... That is terrible!
Shit happens. Well guess others have said much as what I was going to say so enough of lecture for you ;)
Heal up well! Sorry about your wrist :(
Dakara
12th July 2008, 00:43
Looking at those pictures all I can say is :shit:
But you do have an awesome party story now :apint:
While I have no doubts as to how lucky I was, I think the photo's make it look worse than it was. Apart from the front wheel, it's all just broken plastic really.
Yea, I was not sure if it was very ethical to take pictures at that critcal moment, but at least now you have something to share and remind you, and something to remind you and all of us we are not bulletproof. Something we forget at times.
I reacon that the plastic fairings have taken some of the force of the impact. not much but probably just enough to save your hand. You lucky lucky bastard.
You are are a safe rider. you just forgot that you need to ride your own ride and not be worried about the others. I, just like you learnt the hard way. I seriously hope you get your confidence back, because thats the hardest thing to get back.
Nah man, glad ya took them. I never got to see the bike at the crash. And besides, once ya knew I wasn't dead there wasn't much else to do while waiting for the ambo.
Yea, safe, but in-experienced. Most of riding has only been commuting with the odd adventure through some twisties by myself. I think had I of had more experience I could of adjusted my line mid corner and of avoided the accident. As Choco said on the ride, I really hang off the Hyo, and the problem with that is once I'm locked into the corner I can't really adjust my lines... Something I hope to learn on the track.
Something that was taught to me which I teach my student pilots... When we all start flying we have 2 bags, one full of luck, and an empty one for experience. As we learn, we slowly start to fill the experience bag, sometimes withdrawing from the bag of luck. You will never know how much is in your luck bag, but once it's gone it's gone and can never be refilled. The bag of experience however, will never be full as there's always room for more. The trick is to fill the bag of experience faster than you empty the bag of luck, and end your career still with both bags.
I'm sure everyone here with any sense can see how that applies equally to riding.
TOTO
12th July 2008, 00:47
That is briliant and so true.
That means your experience bag just got heavier, and mine too. Thanks.
Dakara
12th July 2008, 00:48
That is briliant and so true.
That means your experience bag just got heavier, and mine too. Thanks.
Yea but the luck one got a shitload lighter!:Oops:
fireball
12th July 2008, 01:56
wow those pictures are ...moving, there isnt much plastic on those naked bikes but it sure as hell looks like you smashed most of it off!
and looking at that road surface it looks kinda greasy to begin with, you are one lucky man to have gotten off so lightly.
i can see you have learnt a valuable lesson and so have others, hope you heal well and ride safe on your new bike. remember ride your own ride its not the speed but the journey that matters.
Dakara
12th July 2008, 08:05
wow those pictures are ...moving, there isnt much plastic on those naked bikes but it sure as hell looks like you smashed most of it off!
and looking at that road surface it looks kinda greasy to begin with, you are one lucky man to have gotten off so lightly.
i can see you have learnt a valuable lesson and so have others, hope you heal well and ride safe on your new bike. remember ride your own ride its not the speed but the journey that matters.
Hehe, that's how much plastic was smashed off... it wasn't a naked :doh:
But that's one thing the attending officer said to me. Rain + Coro = Diesel slick probably why my leathers weren't really scraped.
cowboyz
12th July 2008, 08:55
here come the excuses. oops I mean reasons........
Dakara
12th July 2008, 09:00
here come the excuses. oops I mean reasons........
Really? Where? If you could point them out to me would be much appreciated, because I'm pretty sure I stated right from the first post that I fucked up. But perhaps I am mistaken :rolleyes:
Katman
12th July 2008, 09:13
You are a safe rider.
From what has been written on here I'd suggest otherwise. Anyone who admits to being inexperienced but claims to "really hang off" their bike and then allows themselves to be taken well past their comfort zone is anything but safe.
Dakara
12th July 2008, 09:27
From what has been written on here I'd suggest otherwise. Anyone who admits to being inexperienced but claims to "really hang off" their bike and then allows themselves to be taken well past their comfort zone is anything but safe.
Was wondering when I'd hear from you.... but for the most part I agree with you. Letting myself ride out of my comfort zone just to "Keep up" is about as safe as a game of Russian roulette.
As for 'Hanging off the Hyo" it's how I've been cornering the thing since day 1 as it's so bloody heavy. Working at Ardmore, I frequently come home via Clevedon -> Maraitai -> Whitford which is where I've been getting my cornering practice. Obviously building a false sense of confidence which contributed to the accident on an unfamiliar road.
CookMySock
12th July 2008, 10:28
Broke my wrist on the initial impact as it was crushed between the bike and the truck.AHAAA! Never put your hand between a crashing bike and truck!! ;)
I really hang off the Hyo, and the problem with that is once I'm locked into the corner I can't really adjust my lines... Something I hope to learn on the track.I went through the same thing. My learner son is having the same difficulties.
The critical thing to do here is to steer with the bars. Pretty much you can ignore all the gymnastics and just steer with the bars. Then just look where you want to go, pay zero attention your angle of lean, and just steer - its that simple.
DB
Dakara
12th July 2008, 10:33
AHAAA! Never put your hand between a crashing bike and truck!! ;)
I went through the same thing. My learner son is having the same difficulties.
The critical thing to do here is to steer with the bars. Pretty much you can ignore all the gymnastics and just steer with the bars. Then just look where you want to go, pay zero attention your angle of lean, and just steer - its that simple.
DB
Yea, the one problem I had with the Hyo Vs others I've ridden was the C of G felt too high, and steering with the bars alone wasn't enough... of course the answer to solve that problem was simply to slow down more, opposed to putting the knee down. Well, on the road anyway.
TOTO
12th July 2008, 10:35
From what has been written on here I'd suggest otherwise. Anyone who admits to being inexperienced but claims to "really hang off" their bike and then allows themselves to be taken well past their comfort zone is anything but safe.
well we all develope persolanl riding styles. When I had my hyo, I also had to lean right off it and it felt safe to do so. Now leaning off the hornet is not so neseserry as as the bike is way more balanced and than the hyo and the weight is down low.
I'm far from the taught that I will win an argument with Mr. Karman coz he is "always Right" :doh:. I know what Dakara is talking about tho
offrd
12th July 2008, 23:49
Lucky to be alive man......
Anyone that gets out of a bin alive is lucky.
Looks like the hoyobag hit a bomb!
Heal well!
TOTO
12th July 2008, 23:59
Looked even more blown up in real llife. Insane luck I tell ya.
Dakara
13th July 2008, 02:46
Looked even more blown up in real llife. Insane luck I tell ya.
Yea, I really wish it wasn't luck however... knowing your alive, not because of your gear or because of how you reacted, but simply because of "Luck" is a bit of mind job.
I'm contemplating canceling the CBR order and just buying a replacement for not much more than the Hyo insurance. Since I'm going to be taking it easy for a while, dropping nearly $17k (which I'm stretched to afford anyway) on a new supersports bike after a "Lucky" bin like that seems a bit... excessive? :rolleyes: Have been surfing the online 2nd hand market looking at VFR's as I've read they're a great sports tourer. And since the most enjoyable riding for me is cruising with the GF riding Pillion it could be the best option. Problem is we're both sucker for the rice rockets, and in love with new CBR600RR (hence why I ordered one pre-bin):drool:
But hey, mind may change tomorrow. I'm sure we all get a bit philosophical after a nasty bin.
motorbyclist
13th July 2008, 04:28
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=164852502 :blip:
(600cc/120hp is more than the average rider needs anyway; once power exceeds traction what's the point?)
as for hanging off the bike, i do it all the time; i find when a corner tightens it's easier and faster to lay the bike over than try to shift my weight on a bike that's already on it's side
good to see you're doing well and know exactly what you did wrong - i was about to head back to see who had crashed when we got the call
motorbyclist
13th July 2008, 04:40
holy crap i just noticed the right hand handlebar has been completely broken off! lucky you've still got both hands mate!
most unintentionally funny comment of the year goes to...
wow those pictures are ...moving, there isnt much plastic on those naked bikes but it sure as hell looks like you smashed most of it off!
that wasn't a naked bike;)
and most arrogant comment of the of the year goes to...
But that's one thing the attending officer said to me. Rain + Coro = Diesel slick probably why my leathers weren't really scraped.
here come the excuses. oops I mean reasons........
he already admitted it was entirely his fault. the paramedic's slick observation was directed at the lack of damage to gear, not to do with cause of accident at all. post therefore based on false assumptions contrary to content in thread, and completely useless in the context of learning from mistakes.
it's getting to the point now where people aren't posting up bins purely because they can't be fucked dealing with idiots abusing them for shit they admit to being their own fault, or was completely out of their control but for their decision to ride on that road at over 30kph that day. We ALL lose when this happens; the rider may not learn from advice given in context of crash, other riders can't learn from another person's mistakes, and we don't get to check out pics of annihilated hyosungs:niceone:
contructive criticism is welcome, harrassment based on assumptions is not:spanking:
there. it's been said. may KB forever improve from now on.
Dakara
13th July 2008, 05:31
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=164852502 :blip:
(600cc/120hp is more than the average rider needs anyway; once power exceeds traction what's the point?)
as for hanging off the bike, i do it all the time; i find when a corner tightens it's easier and faster to lay the bike over than try to shift my weight on a bike that's already on it's side
good to see you're doing well and know exactly what you did wrong - i was about to head back to see who had crashed when we got the call
Well once a bike gets to a certain age I'm not interested. I'm not much of a mechanic, and even if I was I don't have time. Same reason why I sold my '94 ZZR250 for the Hyo once it started developing problems.
I was thinking more along the lines of http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=139777728
Yea it's an 800, but CC's don't really concern me as I'm not one to twist the wrist to far.... especially when the other half is on the back. Reason I'm looking at VFR's is I'll be doing more touring than twisties, especially come summer. Also, that one above would save me $5k. It's funny, before I binned, shelling for a new CBR600 was no prob, now, I can't seem to justify it even though the insurance payout will be more than I was trading it for.
However, I've ridden a few CBR600RR's but not a VFR of any year so may not like it anyway. Wont make a decision yet, no point while I'm in plaster. However need to cancel the CBR order and (try) get my deposit back regardless as I need to see a specialist for my wrist (damage to previous reconstruction) and thats gonna cost a few thou atleast :argh:
So, with the incoming medical bills and realization of mortality I'm not as keen to drop so much money on a bike that 75% of my riding will be commuting on as riding aint my only weekend adrenaline rush. Think I'll set a budget and go shopping opposed to going shopping and making the budget fit (like I did) :rolleyes:
ital916
13th July 2008, 07:35
Well once a bike gets to a certain age I'm not interested. I'm not much of a mechanic, and even if I was I don't have time. Same reason why I sold my '94 ZZR250 for the Hyo once it started developing problems.
I was thinking more along the lines of http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=139777728
Yea it's an 800, but CC's don't really concern me as I'm not one to twist the wrist to far.... especially when the other half is on the back. Reason I'm looking at VFR's is I'll be doing more touring than twisties, especially come summer. Also, that one above would save me $5k. It's funny, before I binned, shelling for a new CBR600 was no prob, now, I can't seem to justify it even though the insurance payout will be more than I was trading it for.
However, I've ridden a few CBR600RR's but not a VFR of any year so may not like it anyway. Wont make a decision yet, no point while I'm in plaster. However need to cancel the CBR order and (try) get my deposit back regardless as I need to see a specialist for my wrist (damage to previous reconstruction) and thats gonna cost a few thou atleast :argh:
So, with the incoming medical bills and realization of mortality I'm not as keen to drop so much money on a bike that 75% of my riding will be commuting on as riding aint my only weekend adrenaline rush. Think I'll set a budget and go shopping opposed to going shopping and making the budget fit (like I did) :rolleyes:
Sounds like your absorbing what happened well and are now thinking with the brain and not the balls when it comes to choosing the next bike haha. If you wanna go bike shopping dude drop me a pm I'm keen to come look at some.
Just take it easy and heal up well. Like toto said, confidence will be the biggest problem, you may not feel it but next time you go around a tight right hander in the rain your heart willl be pumping, same thing happened to me. Take it easy, we'll see you on the road.
TOTO
13th July 2008, 07:51
This VFR that you are looking at on trademe :drool: and not expensive too
that would be the way :yes:
TOTO - VFR - WANT :cry:
TOTO
13th July 2008, 07:57
or you can take one of those (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-105483166.htm) and whenever you decide on getting back on the tight stuff and you will know it will do its job :yes:
gunnyrob
13th July 2008, 08:50
[QUOTE=Dakara;1645317]
I'm contemplating canceling the CBR order and just buying a replacement for not much more than the Hyo insurance. Since I'm going to be taking it easy for a while, dropping nearly $17k (which I'm stretched to afford anyway) on a new supersports bike after a "Lucky" bin like that seems a bit... excessive? :QUOTE]
As we discussed at Coroglen....
How about changing tack a wee bit & having a look at a Kwaka Versys?
Not a sports machine, will be better 2-up and you can throw luggage at it?
Good for commuting, not an insane sprots boike, will get you back in the saddle without giving you the jitters. Just a thought.....
CookMySock
13th July 2008, 09:15
Well once a bike gets to a certain age I'm not interested.Yeah, its the same with chix.
But I wonder if you are overthinking all this. Your confidence will return in time, so don't worry too much in the meanwhile. Maybe you would be better off with NO bike for a month or so? You will be good and keen after that perhaps ?
DB
Dakara
13th July 2008, 13:19
or you can take one of those (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-105483166.htm) and whenever you decide on getting back on the tight stuff and you will know it will do its job :yes:
Haha, I don't ride naked ;)
As we discussed at Coroglen....
How about changing tack a wee bit & having a look at a Kwaka Versys?
Not a sports machine, will be better 2-up and you can throw luggage at it?
Good for commuting, not an insane sprots boike, will get you back in the saddle without giving you the jitters. Just a thought.....
Yea, but the problem is having a bike that I want to put a paper bag over everytime I ride her :sick: I hear where you're coming from, but I'm really not interested in anything that's not a sports/sports tourer. Just personal preference.
But it's not the bike giving me the jitters. Quite the opposite, as having ridden the CBR it's amazingly better hadling the Hyo, and feels vastly safer. It's paying for it...
Yeah, its the same with chix.
But I wonder if you are overthinking all this. Your confidence will return in time, so don't worry too much in the meanwhile. Maybe you would be better off with NO bike for a month or so? You will be good and keen after that perhaps ?
DB
I know I'm overthinking... I always do :innocent: I'll be bikeless for a month or so regardless due to the injuries, but at this stage have paid a huge deposit for a bike I'm not sure I'll be able to afford anymore.:doh:
mowgli
13th July 2008, 13:35
Haha, I don't ride naked ;)
[...]
but I'm really not interested in anything that's not a sports/sports tourer. Just personal preference.
I love the look, feel and handling of sports bikes. However, since my recent bin I've pretty much decided to switch to a naked to help cement the changes in riding style I want to make. I'll probably end up with another sport bike in a few years when I'm happy that the changes have stuck.
Just like you though I have a few months before any $$$ decisions are required.
Qkchk
13th July 2008, 13:37
Haha, I don't ride naked ;)
I know I'm overthinking... I always do :innocent: I'll be bikeless for a month or so regardless due to the injuries, but at this stage have paid a huge deposit for a bike I'm not sure I'll be able to afford anymore.:doh:
Nothing that a NC30 (VFR400) wouldnt fix. Reasonably cheap(ish) and a damn fine motorcycle that sticks to the road like snot to a sleeve........
Dakara
13th July 2008, 13:44
I love the look, feel and handling of sports bikes. However, since my recent bin I've pretty much decided to switch to a naked to help cement the changes in riding style I want to make. I'll probably end up with another sport bike in a few years when I'm happy that the changes have stuck.
Just like you though I have a few months before any $$$ decisions are required.
Yea, makes a lot of sense. Although for me, the Hyo wasn't exactly a rocket ship so If I went naked the speeds wouldn't change, just the riding position and amount of wind in my face.
Nothing that a NC30 (VFR400) wouldnt fix. Reasonably cheap(ish) and a damn fine motorcycle that sticks to the road like snot to a sleeve........
Yea if only the still made them... not sure when they stopped, cant find one any newer than '92. But in saying that, not sure how good it would be 2up anyway.
motorbyclist
13th July 2008, 15:27
Yea if only the still made them... not sure when they stopped, cant find one any newer than '92. But in saying that, not sure how good it would be 2up anyway.
the NC35 was made in '95 i think
they're still mechanically bombproof, provided the rectifier is aftermarket and the bike is in good nick she'll never give you trouble that new bike wouldn't give anyway
not too bad 2up either, pillions find it comfy and bike still handles well
Dakara
14th July 2008, 15:19
the NC35 was made in '95 i think
they're still mechanically bombproof, provided the rectifier is aftermarket and the bike is in good nick she'll never give you trouble that new bike wouldn't give anyway
not too bad 2up either, pillions find it comfy and bike still handles well
Sounds like it could be worthwhile looking into then. Course it's all just speculation at the moment. No idea how long I'm in plaster for or how much it's gonna cost me through loss of earnings and medical bills co cant really plan a budget ... but suppose I got noting else to do at the moment apart from talk bikes :whistle:
motorbyclist
15th July 2008, 01:51
Sounds like it could be worthwhile looking into then. Course it's all just speculation at the moment. No idea how long I'm in plaster for or how much it's gonna cost me through loss of earnings and medical bills co cant really plan a budget ... but suppose I got noting else to do at the moment apart from talk bikes :whistle:
isn't acc meant to pay all the medical bills and 80% of wages/salary based on your income is the last few weeks before the accident?
Dakara
15th July 2008, 03:02
isn't acc meant to pay all the medical bills and 80% of wages/salary based on your income is the last few weeks before the accident?
Usually yes, however, because I'm a Pilot I need to get this sorted ASAP so seeing a private specialist instead of going through the public health system.
As for my "wages" I'm paid per flying hour and none of that goes to ACC :doh:
As for my "wages" I'm paid per flying hour and none of that goes to ACC :doh:
:doh: Now get some sleep. You will wake up and all this will be a dream :innocent:
:zzzz:
Dakara
15th July 2008, 08:49
:doh: Now get some sleep. You will wake up and all this will be a dream :innocent:
:zzzz:
Yea if I'm on KB at some early hour of the morning it means I was sleeping then woke up after rolling onto my arm :argh:
Dakara
17th July 2008, 21:42
Well, 1 week after the accident and the swelling has finally gone down enough to exmaine the extent of the damage...
2 sizeable fractures to my wrist.
1 being at the end of the Ulna bone and is pretty "textbook".
The 2nd however, is on the end of my Radius bone. The ligament was detached taking a chuck of bone with it and needs to be screwed back into place.
Multiple other fractures which are net yet visable, they are only evident as I have bone fragments scattered throughtout my wrist. Will know more after an MRI scan is done.
So at this stage I require surgery to re-attach the bone and ligament to my Radius, but if the MRI shows extensive joint/ligament damage in the wrist will require a 2nd op.
The Surgeon (who I've known since I was about 5) made things very clear to me. As this wrist has had previous surgery (major reconstruction to the ligaments 3 years ago) I was very lucky to have sustained separate injuries. Had I of damaged or torn apart the previous repair, worst case Scenario I could of lost my hand, best case I would of lost about 60% movement in that hand which could have cost me my career as a Pilot... a very scary thought at the ripe old age of 25 with no Income protection insurance.
So as it stands now, I'm off work and unable to fly. All going well not longer than a few weeks, as for riding... probably not for a while. After yet another op on this wrist, I'm gonna have more metal in there than bone, and have been warned If I seriously hurt it again (Biking or otherwise) that could be it, game over. While bones heal, ligaments don't, and mine can't take much more abuse...
TOTO
17th July 2008, 22:06
F**k, heal well brother.
Choco
17th July 2008, 22:11
Bugger man, real sorry to hear all that, hope your op goes well.
If you wanted to keep riding, maybe some serious wrist strapage might be in order? I'm not sure whats on the market but it may be worth having a look at wrist braces that would still let you use the throttle if you wanted to keep with bikes.
Get well soon man!
Choco
Dakara
17th July 2008, 22:39
Bugger man, real sorry to hear all that, hope your op goes well.
If you wanted to keep riding, maybe some serious wrist strapage might be in order? I'm not sure whats on the market but it may be worth having a look at wrist braces that would still let you use the throttle if you wanted to keep with bikes.
Get well soon man!
Choco
Yea I'll look into it when the time comes. Right now just gotta focus on the job. I have an interview coming up to start for a charter airline in summer so until then will just focus on the healing.
Injuries like this do strengthen over time, so will be back on 2 wheels eventually. Just not gonna jump straight back on the day the plaster comes off! :scooter:
TOTO
17th July 2008, 23:28
you can pillion tho :eek:
PirateJafa
18th July 2008, 05:32
Don't worry mate, I had a similar injury (except at the elbow end of the ulna/radius - shattered them all over the show, there were bits floating miles away from where they should have been!), and now after four months and two out of the four operations, I have 40 degrees of movement (flexation/extension only - no rotation at all!) back in my arm - which is enough to let me ride a bike again!
You've got a better chance here - wrists don't seize up as quickly as elbows do - I probably won't get much more movement than what I've got now, but you'll have a few months of drooling over bike mags now just the same!
Just keep positive and listen to everything to doctor says except where it regards motorbikes (They don't like them for some reason - no idea why? :sweatdrop).
mowgli
18th July 2008, 08:32
Well, 1 week after the accident and the swelling has finally gone down enough to exmaine the extent of the damage...
Sounds like your head is in the right place so you'll come out just fine. Heal well and obey the doctor's instructions.
FWIW I haven't touched a drop since breaking my leg. Had nothing to do with the accident. I decided early on that I wouldn't take any risks that might see me push it too far. Also cut out the pain killers pretty early on. Pain is a very good indicator of how far is too far. Listen to your body - it knows what's best.
Dakara
18th July 2008, 09:04
you can pillion tho :eek:
Now that's a scary thought! Not sure if I'm ready to loose my "Pillion Virginity" ;)
Don't worry mate, I had a similar injury (except at the elbow end of the ulna/radius - shattered them all over the show, there were bits floating miles away from where they should have been!), and now after four months and two out of the four operations, I have 40 degrees of movement (flexation/extension only - no rotation at all!) back in my arm - which is enough to let me ride a bike again!
You've got a better chance here - wrists don't seize up as quickly as elbows do - I probably won't get much more movement than what I've got now, but you'll have a few months of drooling over bike mags now just the same!
Just keep positive and listen to everything to doctor says except where it regards motorbikes (They don't like them for some reason - no idea why? :sweatdrop).
Ouch, you definitely did a number on yourself. Fortunately for me nothing has "shattered" the visible fragments are small enough that they cant tell where they came from on a standard x-ray.
Having a Surgeon for a father, I know all too well how much they hate bikes! Not Bikers, just what happens to them. He said over the years, your average accident is less "severe" due to improvements in safety gear and people actually wearing it, but the overall stats are getting worse as bikes are getting faster and faster as are the people riding them.
He quoted me a bunch of surgical stats, but I don't think they need repeating. :whistle:
Sounds like your head is in the right place so you'll come out just fine. Heal well and obey the doctor's instructions.
FWIW I haven't touched a drop since breaking my leg. Had nothing to do with the accident. I decided early on that I wouldn't take any risks that might see me push it too far. Also cut out the pain killers pretty early on. Pain is a very good indicator of how far is too far. Listen to your body - it knows what's best.
Yea have no choice but to obey the Dr... as said above, my Dad's a surgeon and his mates the Orthapedist doing the surgery :laugh: I know I'm good hands though which a huge bonus.
Same as you, I'm off the painkillers unless I can't sleep. That way, if i do something that really hurts I know not to do it again! It's odd though, before I was just sore, now that I know I have loose bone in there I can feel it moving :sick:
Reason I need to stay off a bike for a while, is even once I'm recovered enough to ride the wrist will still be weak and wont be able to survive another fall. Not that I'd plan to bin again, but shit happens.
motorbyclist
18th July 2008, 10:48
Ouch, you definitely did a number on yourself. Fortunately for me nothing has "shattered" the visible fragments are small enough that they cant tell where they came from on a standard x-ray.
yeah, jafa decided to pick his bike up, remove his jacket and drive to the A&E before realising his elbow was completely smashed after doing 100kph into a kerb:clap:
and his mate rode the twisted wreck home:laugh:
bloody eastern gone shore westie kids!
Reason I need to stay off a bike for a while, is even once I'm recovered enough to ride the wrist will still be weak and wont be able to survive another fall. Not that I'd plan to bin again, but shit happens.
don't they have wrist braces? i know my brother has to wear one while riding after a wrist injury he got a few years back (fucking unlicenced 15y/o cagers!). didn't break bone but it was the muscles/tendons/ligaments or something that was in trouble
Dakara
18th July 2008, 11:01
don't they have wrist braces? i know my brother has to wear one while riding after a wrist injury he got a few years back (fucking unlicenced 15y/o cagers!). didn't break bone but it was the muscles/tendons/ligaments or something that was in trouble
They do, but I'd need to wear one of those snowboarding ones which has hard plastic from the palm of the hand down over the wrist. If I could get one to fit under my gloves, I'm still not sure how the throttle control would be.
The surgeon advised 6 months off riding... unfortunately for me, I've paid a deposit of over half the price for the new CBR and the store doesn't sound impressed that I'm trying to cancel (can't blame them really). So that's another problem added to the pile :wacko:
motorbyclist
18th July 2008, 12:12
They do, but I'd need to wear one of those snowboarding ones which has hard plastic from the palm of the hand down over the wrist. If I could get one to fit under my gloves, I'm still not sure how the throttle control would be.
ah yeah, brother did left wrist so the brace they gave him wasn't an issue really
gijoe1313
19th July 2008, 09:40
They do, but I'd need to wear one of those snowboarding ones which has hard plastic from the palm of the hand down over the wrist. If I could get one to fit under my gloves, I'm still not sure how the throttle control would be.
The surgeon advised 6 months off riding... unfortunately for me, I've paid a deposit of over half the price for the new CBR and the store doesn't sound impressed that I'm trying to cancel (can't blame them really). So that's another problem added to the pile :wacko:
Not to encourage you or anything to get back on a bike quicker :innocent: :whistle: :o , but you can get those crampbusters to slide over the throttle. Mind you, doctor's orders are to let the healing commence properly so get that sorted first! :yes: :doctor:
PirateJafa
19th July 2008, 09:50
yeah, jafa decided to pick his bike up, remove his jacket and drive to the A&E before realising his elbow was completely smashed after doing 100kph into a kerb:clap:
and his mate rode the twisted wreck home:laugh:
bloody eastern gone shore westie kids!
It seemed logical at the time? :Oops:
Dakara
19th July 2008, 10:18
Not to encourage you or anything to get back on a bike quicker :innocent: :whistle: :o , but you can get those crampbusters to slide over the throttle. Mind you, doctor's orders are to let the healing commence properly so get that sorted first! :yes: :doctor:
Haha, I think they were designed with Harley's on long straight roads in mind :sleep:
Will heal up first, and wait to see how successful/strong the repair is before making any decisions... not like I'm missing much with this weather anyway :rockon:
DUCATI*HARD
19th July 2008, 10:56
on an unfamiliar road.[/QUOTE]
:crazy::yawn::zzzz:
Dakara
20th July 2008, 19:46
Argh, everytime I see another specialist or have another test I find out that something else is broken/torn/damaged :doh: Pretty much my wrist is being held together by the skin around it...
Surgery on Friday in Tauranga, followed by about 8 weeks in plaster then another op to remove temporary wiring, and then Physio. :blank:
TOTO
20th July 2008, 22:47
Is it swallen ? How bad is the pain ?
terbang
21st July 2008, 06:01
Get well and bikes can be fixed or replaced. Donīt sweat on the coro, my first one saw 4 bins. Similar reasons...
Dakara
21st July 2008, 10:25
Is it swallen ? How bad is the pain ?
Nah swellings gone down heaps... which means I can now see the bones sticking out which shouldn't be :wacko: Wrist is basically dislocated which is why everything is broken. Can move my fingers, but cant make a fist and have zero strength in it.
Pain wise it's fine so long as I don't move it. Have been given a special brace to secure it until the surgery. Only time it's sore is when I wakeup.
Dakara
18th August 2008, 16:19
Well post bin update...
Had surgery 4 weeks ago, repairing the joint below my thumb (see photo 1 if you don't mind scars). Was put in a cast and all was well initially, but then a few bones started to move and the surgeon wasn't happy with it.
So last week went under the knife again and essentially had my wrist locked by bolting a plate from the back of my had over my wrist and onto my arm... no doubt I'll have another lengthy scar which I'm yet to see. The advantage to this however, is it will ensure everything heals in the right place and I don't need to wear a cast just a brace.
Wrist gets "unlocked" in 5 weeks and then will need physio. I'll be able to ride right away, but nothing more than around town until I finish physio and regain some strength.
Didn't get the CBR, couldn't afford it. I'm off work, on ACC and the whole ordeal has cost me a fair bit, and will cost even more as a few of my flying ratings will need to be renewed :weep: However, in my boredom I've been looking at bikes and found a great buy on Trademe... (photo2) an '05 ZX6R (636). Has less than 10k on the clock and still on stock tyres. Spent it's life sitting in a garage... and is now sitting in mine :lol: Chain needs a good clean and I'm sure it could use a service so will (slowly) give it a birthday while I heal up. Best part was, it only cost me my Hyo insurance plus a tiny bit more :rockon:
EJK
18th August 2008, 16:25
Ouch! and Wow! :sunny:
When can you get back on the bike? 5 weeks? I'll catch up with you sometime. Maybe a Dine in Kaiaua Ride? :lol:
:sunny:
Dakara
18th August 2008, 16:43
Yea 5 weeks +/- so long as I don't get bumped off the theatre list :laugh:
Always up for a Kaiaua trip, but I think my first ride will be from home to Mission Bay and back (I live in St Heliers :laugh:)
gunnyrob
18th August 2008, 16:58
Good to hear you're on the road to recovery. Let me know when you're mobile again, we'll have to go round the Coro loop again!
Dakara
18th August 2008, 17:43
Cheers Rob. Wont be back to the Coro for a while... perhaps on a Sunny Summers day in the New Year :niceone:
TOTO
18th August 2008, 21:48
yey. goood news is all this :niceone:
Heal up fast Matt, and if you get sad just looking at the bike , flick me a txt and I'll come ride it for you :niceone:
You can be on the bitch pad :p
Na seriously, flick us a txt should you need some help.
Congrats on your new zx6 Kamandsukme :clap:
p.S. How much does insurance cost you for the big bike with your recent claim history ?
Dakara
18th August 2008, 22:18
Hahaha yea I tried to ride it in the driveway, but since I can't move my wrist at all I didn't get far :lol:
A mate of mine rode it home while I watched from the cage behind...
Insurance will be about $850ish which is less than the Honda was going to be since it cost so much more.
TOTO
18th August 2008, 22:38
o not bad at all
sexy as hell that bike :drool:
Choco
18th August 2008, 22:43
Well, chicks dig scars!
They dig sports bikes too! :goodone:
Looks like you got a sweet buy man, let us know when you're up and riding again so we can go for a toodle!
Heal up soon bro
Choco
Dakara
18th August 2008, 22:48
o not bad at all
sexy as hell that bike :drool:
Yea quite like the Kawa's, plain in terms of graphics but there's something about the shape that makes them... even though she's got a fat ass :laugh:
Dakara
18th August 2008, 22:49
Well, chicks dig scars!
They dig sports bikes too! :goodone:
Looks like you got a sweet buy man, let us know when you're up and riding again so we can go for a toodle!
Heal up soon bro
Choco
Cheers man, with all the shit weather we've had I haven't really missed much! And will be 100% come summer :2thumbsup
Irontusk
19th August 2008, 00:14
That slice on your arm looks pretty tidy, it'll be pretty unnoticable after not too long. I have one that runs from below my left shoulder blade down to my stomach, it's pretty much never seen the light of day and it's quite fine. Having your wrist locked doesn't sound too comfortable, atleast the plate gets removed though.
Just read through some of the thread, you bounced off a truck wheel, crazy! Like everyone else has said, very lucky outcome.
Not sure if this was already asked, but what type of back protector did you have, Dakara?
TOTO
19th August 2008, 01:20
Quasimoto I think it was when he showed us at the lunch tavern just before the bang.
Back protectors are our friends :yes:
Dakara
19th August 2008, 10:32
That slice on your arm looks pretty tidy, it'll be pretty unnoticable after not too long. I have one that runs from below my left shoulder blade down to my stomach, it's pretty much never seen the light of day and it's quite fine. Having your wrist locked doesn't sound too comfortable, atleast the plate gets removed though.
Just read through some of the thread, you bounced off a truck wheel, crazy! Like everyone else has said, very lucky outcome.
Not sure if this was already asked, but what type of back protector did you have, Dakara?
Yea, that arm now has 3 :doh: One on the other side from a previous break, and now one on the back of my hand where the plate went in. All from the same Surgeon who's a mate of my Dad's and he's known for his "Tidy Scars".
It's an odd feeling having it locked yea. I just simply cant move it. Have to be careful though, if I try to force it or use it too much the plate can come loose...
Quasimoto I think it was when he showed us at the lunch tavern just before the bang.
Back protectors are our friends :yes:
Yea, I got it from Quasi, but was one of the Knox ones. I had one of Quasi's original ones, but upgraded not long after these arrived. They're amazing, hardly even notice I'm wearing it.
http://www.quasimoto.co.nz/products/knox-armour/knox-aegis-en1621-2-level-two-back-protector
fLaThEaD FreD
19th August 2008, 10:47
Well, 1 week after the accident and the swelling has finally gone down enough to exmaine the extent of the damage...
2 sizeable fractures to my wrist.
1 being at the end of the Ulna bone and is pretty "textbook".
The 2nd however, is on the end of my Radius bone. The ligament was detached taking a chuck of bone with it and needs to be screwed back into place.
Multiple other fractures which are net yet visable, they are only evident as I have bone fragments scattered throughtout my wrist. Will know more after an MRI scan is done.
So at this stage I require surgery to re-attach the bone and ligament to my Radius, but if the MRI shows extensive joint/ligament damage in the wrist will require a 2nd op.
The Surgeon (who I've known since I was about 5) made things very clear to me. As this wrist has had previous surgery (major reconstruction to the ligaments 3 years ago) I was very lucky to have sustained separate injuries. Had I of damaged or torn apart the previous repair, worst case Scenario I could of lost my hand, best case I would of lost about 60% movement in that hand which could have cost me my career as a Pilot... a very scary thought at the ripe old age of 25 with no Income protection insurance.
So as it stands now, I'm off work and unable to fly. All going well not longer than a few weeks, as for riding... probably not for a while. After yet another op on this wrist, I'm gonna have more metal in there than bone, and have been warned If I seriously hurt it again (Biking or otherwise) that could be it, game over. While bones heal, ligaments don't, and mine can't take much more abuse...
Since we lost Bruce (old fart) on the Coro Loop. You were sooo luckey,don't ever forget that!!!!!!.......RIP Bruce and the others.
Dakara
19th August 2008, 10:54
Since we lost Bruce (old fart) on the Coro Loop. You were sooo luckey,don't ever forget that!!!!!!.......RIP Bruce and the others.
Yea with the Coro's history it's not something I'll soon forget. RIP to all those who weren't so lucky.
Irontusk
19th August 2008, 19:04
When I was a kid my family used to go down to Coromandel for a holiday atleast once a year, I can safely say that it's not somewhere I would like to ride, way too many blind corners on one side with a fall onto rocks on the other! I can see the appeal but it's not for me.
I've bought a Thor Impact Rig SE pressure suit, mainly for the back protector (my spine is probably the most likely thing to go wrong if I have a bin, maybe similar to your wrist.. except the titanium isn't coming out) and kidney belt. Just don't know if it's great quality or not :blink:
TOTO
19th August 2008, 19:24
I can safely say that it's not somewhere I would like to ride, way too many blind corners on one side with a fall onto rocks on the other! I can see the appeal but it's not for me.
As wise people have said before - it is a great riding road, but crappy racetrack.
You need to go there again. You are not following me tho or you may end up as dakara :no:
Dakara
19th August 2008, 19:26
When I was a kid my family used to go down to Coromandel for a holiday atleast once a year, I can safely say that it's not somewhere I would like to ride, way too many blind corners on one side with a fall onto rocks on the other! I can see the appeal but it's not for me.
I've bought a Thor Impact Rig SE pressure suit, mainly for the back protector (my spine is probably the most likely thing to go wrong if I have a bin, maybe similar to your wrist.. except the titanium isn't coming out) and kidney belt. Just don't know if it's great quality or not :blink:
Coro has some of the best and worst roads I've ridden....
No experience with the Thor... one thing you need to be aware of with too much safety gear is if it affects your movement. That's why I love the knox one so much.
Irontusk
19th August 2008, 19:47
As wise people have said before - it is a great riding road, but crappy racetrack.
Haha exactly! My problem is, I don't know how the people coming the other way are behaving.. Really would be a nice ride though.
Yeah the problem I have with the Thor rig is it makes my shoulders the slightest bit wider, so I can't do the velcro up on the neck of my jacket.. it was extremely tight and only just reached before I got the armour (I've taken the normal shoulder/elbow armour out of the jacket, to fit the Thor in underneath)
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