How fast will jrandom go at Meremere?

[kiwifruit]

2007 Suzuki GSX1400, two brothers pipe, 95kg (dry) rider with 4(?) years experience riding (7 months on bikes larger than 800cc).

All excuses aside, what do we think he'll do?
sub 9?
perhaps 10 flat?

[Quasievil]

Best between 11 and 12secs

of if just after lunch maybe 13-14 secs

thats my pick

[Grahameeboy]

95kg??.....reckon he will stall in .25 secs....:shit:

[nodrog]

knowing his luck he will get taken out by a latte drinking desperate housewife in her SUV, before he gets onto the motorway.

[Sully60]

Faster than the litre bikes:dodge:

Between 12 and 12.5 predicts I.

[Firefight]

[QUOTE=Quasievil;

of if just after lunch maybe 13-14 secs

thats my pick[/QUOTE]



bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

now thats fucken funny Bret




F/F

[The Pastor]

I reckon 11-11.5 seconds,

I could do it in 8 tho.

[Qkchk]

Hes gotta turn up first......

Either bins his bike before said drag or Mr Plod relieves him of ones licence...

[Matt Bleck]

knowing his luck he will get taken out by a latte drinking desperate housewife in her SUV, before he gets onto the motorway.
I'll give him to the car park at the drag strip by a pimpled faced 19 year old in a RX2 coupe, the face lift model.

[riffer]

I think Dan will surprise you all.

I'm picking a 10.4 @ 188km/hr

[DMNTD]

Mid 11's but maybe a low 11 or two as well as

[FROSTY]

One must first assume he can be bothered getting his arse outa bed

[Quasievil]

I could do it in 8 tho.

Okay I will say it .................fucken Bullshit you could lol
here is $100 says you cant, you in for a wager ??:blink:

[tri boy]

Hot chick with huge tits will distract him as the lights stage down.
He will dump the clutch with 2000 too few revs, burp n fart his way over the first 30mtrs, and still run a 11.9.
That will be his only pass, as the lure of hot dogs and tight t shirts will prove to be his undoing.;)

[jrandom]

I won't bother taking Betty to Meremere if it's pissing down with rain. Fortunately the weather forecast for Auckland and Hamilton reckons it'll clear by Sunday.

95kgs is pretty generous, I'm more like 105 at the moment. My upcoming three months on the pushbike is well overdue.

How many timed runs down the strip do you get at one of these days? Three? Five? A dozen?

I'm picking I'll go out and do 12.5 ish and bring it down to 11.5 by the end of the day. I reckon riffer's about right with 188 kph over the line though.

[Chrislost]

I think Dan will surprise you all.

I'm picking a 10.4 @ 188km/hr

thats a retty low speed for that time...

i pick from 10.9 - 11.3s....

When is this going to happen?

[jrandom]

When is this going to happen?

This Sunday auw.

Come down and join the fun.

Once again, though, I ain't bothering if it's pissing down.

[jrandom]

Gawd, I fuckin hate all this buildup, wish I'd never mentioned I was going.

I'll probably get performance anxiety on my first run and fall off after stalling the bike.

Edit: or end up like this fulla (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100068&d=1215684708).

[Quasievil]

I'll probably get performance anxiety on my first run and fall off after stalling the bike.

And the cameras will be clickin, oh yes the drags will be awash with the glorious sounds of "capturing the moment"

just go hard mate, you will have at least 3 hours before pictures are on KB and video is on you tube :buggerd:

[martybabe]

I reckon low 11s, if, I say if, he can keep the bloomin front wheel somewhere near the tarmac.

My GSX14 thinks it's an aeroplane from standing starts.

Good luck.

[Toaster]

All the best, have fun!

[Devil]

I'm picking low 12's, perhaps getting down to high 11's.

[nodrog]

Edit: or end up like this fulla (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100068&d=1215684708).

he's doing it wrong.

[jrandom]

I'm picking low 12's, perhaps getting down to high 11's.

I think it's going to boil down to how much I want to chomp through my new $460 190/55 PP 2CT rear and whether I have the balls and finesse to hold a GSX1400 in the Drift Dimension (tm) through the first 150m or so of the strip.

Apparently they don't prep the track with VHT for these days.

:no:

[Al]

Oi, JR, do the best you can mate!:woohoo:

[oldrider]

Gawd, I fuckin hate all this buildup, wish I'd never mentioned I was going.

I'll probably get performance anxiety on my first run and fall off after stalling the bike.

Edit: or end up like this fulla (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100068&d=1215684708).

Oh ye of little faith! :sick:

Stop talking yourself down, the bike can handle it, all you have to do is keep up!

Go for sub 10. Good luck. :headbang: Cheers John.

[mowgli]

Good luck out there JR. Just remember to take it easy until after you've crossed the start line lest Mr Plod issues you with a no show :)

[kiwifruit]

190/55 PP 2CT rear ......... GSX1400 ...... strip.....

sacré bleu!!! :eek5:

[DMNTD]

I think it's going to boil down to how much I want to chomp through my new $460 190/55 PP 2CT rear and whether I have the balls and finesse to hold a GSX1400 in the Drift Dimension (tm) through the first 150m or so of the strip.

I wouldn't worry about it too much mate. I turned up with a 300km old PP and just made certain I did short burn outs.
10.9 on the first,10.7 on the second and a 10.5. Tyre was fine too...

[007XX]

I'll probably get performance anxiety on my first run and fall off after stalling the bike.


Don't be like that...You'll be just fine!

*makes mental note to bring fortifying Port and industrial size 1st aid kit*

[avgas]

i actually think around 15 for the first run, then 13-14's for the rest. Getting sub 13 is harder than it looks. I would only put the FZ around 12's with a mega skilled rider (er not me i guess).
The only bike i have had any success was the old RG with did a 12.9......but 2,000ks later the motor collapsed, so all the hard work was in vain.
When is the next speed run? i want to see if i can get the fz past 260.

[Swoop]

Good luck out there JR. Just remember to take it easy until after you've crossed the start line lest Mr Plod issues you with a no show :)
Also watch out for afterwards... They happily wait for anyone who is a "bit enthusiastic" after the event has ended.

[RiderInBlack]

Got high 12's first time out as a Drag Newbe on old "Roxanne" (CBR1000FL). Recon my "Zena" (GSX1400K7) is at least as fast (if not faster), which is the same bike as jrandom so I have given him 12.0 -12.5's.

[Chrislost]

i actually think around 15 for the first run, then 13-14's for the rest. Getting sub 13 is harder than it looks. I would only put the FZ around 12's with a mega skilled rider (er not me i guess).
The only bike i have had any success was the old RG with did a 12.9......but 2,000ks later the motor collapsed, so all the hard work was in vain.
When is the next speed run? i want to see if i can get the fz past 260.

i did a 10.87 on my first run.

i cheated and used a gsxR though...it was half the size of the 1400 though...

[Qkchk]

All I can say is thank goodness for ACC.............

[kiwifruit]

i did a 10.87 on my first run.



you're mad tho

[Kornholio]

thats a retty low speed for that time...

i pick from 10.9 - 11.3s....



I reckon...have to be doin 200k +... i reckon high 11's tho...the first few runs he will shit himself and probably wont improve much.... will have good grip for take-off tho :)


I think it's going to boil down to how much I want to chomp through my new $460 190/55 PP 2CT rear and whether I have the balls and finesse to hold a GSX1400 in the Drift Dimension (tm) through the first 150m or so of the strip.

Apparently they don't prep the track with VHT for these days.

:no:

Oh come on Richard...its no turbo busa :p You will have heaps of grip...dont flip it auuuu :scooter:

[jrandom]

When is the next speed run?

Northwestern motorway at 2am auw.

[vifferman]

Also watch out for afterwards... They happily wait for anyone who is a "bit enthusiastic" after the event has ended.
'sfunny that...
The last trip I had to Roundabouta (the city formerly known as Tauranga), everyone was driving very sedately, due to the petrol prices, I guess. The only exception was one young hoon, coming out of the Meremere Dragway in his V8 Commodore, spinning it up as he took off. He didn't have the lights or siren going though... :whistle:

[Morcs]

The 1400 will get mid'11's.

I might try and get down there on sunday if the weather looks good.
want to break into the 10's.

best so far: 11.3 @ 197kph.

[martybabe]

Hey dragmiesters, can someone explain the relevance of the terminal speed.

For instance. If an R1 does 11 secs@ 200k and a Busa does 11 secs @ 230, would this suggest the power comes in later on the Busa and therefore theoretically, if they carried on to a 1/2 mile the busa would be well in front?

Yes ,there are gaps in the data bank, even with my huge brain. :rolleyes:

Thank you. :niceone:

[Kornholio]

Hey dragmiesters, can someone explain the relevance of the terminal speed.

For instance. If an R1 does 11 secs@ 200k and a Busa does 11 secs @ 230, would this suggest the power comes in later on the Busa and therefore theoretically, if they carried on to a 1/2 mile the busa would be well in front?

Yes ,there are gaps in the data bank, even with my huge brain. :rolleyes:

Thank you. :niceone:

My 750 did a 10.6 at 218kph...........

[nodrog]

Hey dragmiesters, can someone explain the relevance of the terminal speed.

For instance. If an R1 does 11 secs@ 200k and a Busa does 11 secs @ 230, would this suggest the power comes in later on the Busa and therefore theoretically, if they carried on to a 1/2 mile the busa would be well in front?

Yes ,there are gaps in the data bank, even with my huge brain. :rolleyes:

Thank you. :niceone:

remember the guy on the busa could have sat on the line for .5 of a second, reaction times come into play.

[avgas]

Northwestern motorway at 2am auw.
really - last time i tried that i saw a cop a few k's down the road and slammed on the picks......good thing he didnt see me when i saw him otherwise it was 180kph ticket....
so far only gone up to 220.........the weight gets deceptive at that point and 220kgs going weightless scares the shit out of me.

[avgas]

My 750 did a 10.6 at 218kph...........
nice.....meremere?

[Crazy Steve]

10.11 at 227kph on a K7 GSXR1000..

Meoooww ! !

Crazy Steve..

Im picking 12ish...Ive seen Sv1000 doin 12.5 and 13secs....

[jrandom]

10.11

10.11?

You is crazy, Crazy Steve!

[Kornholio]

10.11 at 227kph on a K7 GSXR1000..

Meoooww ! !

Crazy Steve..

Im picking 12ish...Ive seen Sv1000 doin 12.5 and 13secs....

A couple of mates on VTR's have done 11.3's

[The Pastor]

Okay I will say it .................fucken Bullshit you could lol
here is $100 says you cant, you in for a wager ??:blink:

You providing Jrandoms bike?

[arj127]

Surely he's gotta do 10's. I did 12.6 on a ZZR600 years ago, and i'd probably been riding the same amount of time jrandom has.

[jrandom]

Surely he's gotta do 10's.

Y'reckon?

A stock GSX1400 weighs 230kg dry and puts out 98bhp at the rear wheel. Fully wet with me on board, you're talking 350kg.

Bikes doing sub 11 runs are generally in the 130-150hp bracket, 50kg lighter and carrying 20kg lighter riders.

[Cr1MiNaL]

I reckon hell spin it up .... I reckon I'd do 10 on my 6 :yes: though

[jrandom]

I reckon I'd do 10 on my 6 :yes:

Please come along on Sunday and show us.

:sunny:

Edit: Tell you what. If you manage a sub-11-second run, I'll pay your $25 entry fee. Deal?

Edit edit: Fuck that. You might actually do it, and I'd rather spend the money on popcorn and a movie ticket. You should still come along, though...

[riffer]

What you need is an RF900 Dan.

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[Cr1MiNaL]

Please come along on Sunday and show us.

:sunny:

Edit: Tell you what. If you manage a sub-11-second run, I'll pay your $25 entry fee. Deal?

your on... when is it? should be some fun...

[jrandom]

your on... when is it? should be some fun...

Pfft! See my edit of the edit.

This Sunday morning. Be at the Meremere drag strip at 10am.

[arj127]

Y'reckon?

A stock GSX1400 weighs 230kg dry and puts out 98bhp at the rear wheel. Fully wet with me on board, you're talking 350kg.

Bikes doing sub 11 runs are generally in the 130-150hp bracket, 50kg lighter and carrying 20kg lighter riders.

True. What the fuck is up with that hp rating.

So by my equations based on power to weight ratios, i reckon on your best run you will be 1.008 seconds slower than i was, making it a 13.7 quarter.
Good luck

[Ocean1]

A stock GSX1400 weighs 230kg dry and puts out 98bhp at the rear wheel. Fully wet with me on board, you're talking 350kg.

Good (previous) smaller rider on 179kg Bluell @110bhp, fully wet all up likely about 270kg = 12.2sec

Based solely on that high 12s - low 13s look like a good bet.

And dude, that first 0.1sec can make a hugely disproportionate difference at t'other end...

Luck, fun, etc.

[arj127]

nup, looks like you weigh more, so i go 14.2

[MVnut]

Good (previous) smaller rider on 179kg Bluell @110bhp, fully wet all up likely about 270kg = 12.2sec

Based solely on that high 12s - low 13s look like a good bet.

And dude, that first 0.1sec can make a hugely disproportionate difference at t'other end...

Luck, fun, etc.

So a 190kg bike with 74hp and a 56kg rider on a warm summer day early in the morning would do ...................................(guesses please):woohoo:

[nallac]

if its ya first run down the 1/4 on the 14, i'd go with 13's,
of course you'd work ya times down to low12's/ high 11's
if ya fookin good...

no matter what the times are, it'll be a hoot:2thumbsup

[MVnut]

my guesstimate for JR is 11.78s (assuming he reads the Chrissy tree well enough)... and JR, one lane will be quicker than the other, keep an eye on everyone elses qualifying times

[Crazy Steve]

10.11?

You is crazy, Crazy Steve!

Mate thats not Crazy..

There was a guy there name Dean Vale(Spelling isnt right) doin high 9's on his almost stock 750....

Crazy Steve..

[Ocean1]

So a 190kg bike with 74hp and a 56kg rider on a warm summer day early in the morning would do ...................................(guesses please):woohoo:

Do I have to?

OK, without predjudice: probably not too much different. :bleh:

[MVnut]

Do I have to?

OK, without predjudice: probably not too much different. :bleh:

That was a bloody good guess, almost perfect (best of 11.98s on that bike 73 H2A):headbang:

[Ocean1]

That was a bloody good guess, almost perfect (best of 11.98s on that bike 73 H2A):headbang:

Good thing there wasn't any corners eh?

[MVnut]

Good thing there wasn't any corners eh?

But there was, a big one in the middle of the frame .... eh they do go round corners you know, they just need a bit of 'persuasion':cool:

[Sanx]

I reckon hell spin it up .... I reckon I'd do 10 on my 6 :yes: though

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Lucky you've got MotoGP brakes to stop at the other end then...

[owner]

Just practice smoking that clutch of the line at every red light when commuting.
practice before you get there. I wouldnt be concerned with burn outs and tyres Id be practicing slipping that clutch.
But then Ive never put a bike down the strip. But I think more clutch less tyre
Any comments? Just thinking out loud here. When I ran a car there, my first time was the best all day
12 something for Dan Goodluck

[fireball]

if he avoids pies for a week he will do about 12 i reckon

[RiderInBlack]

If work goes well today and the weather is ok on Sunday, I might sneak down there on "Zena" (GXS1400K7) myself. Be interesting ta see how "She" goes down the 1/4. Would be good encouragement for Jramdom too:msn-wink:

[MVnut]

Is this 'Dial your own' or 'Heads up' racing on Sunday ....and no, I'm not being rude..... just a question (consistency or outright quickest)

[Timmay]

more importantly what will my cbx250rs run if i'm mad enough to join Mr. J tomorrow?

[MVnut]

more importantly what will my cbx250rs run if i'm mad enough to join Mr. J tomorrow?

About 17s :rockon:

[jrandom]

Is this 'Dial your own' or 'Heads up' racing on Sunday ....and no, I'm not being rude..... just a question (consistency or outright quickest)

'Dial your own'.

After the practice runs the racing consists of a knockout series where everyone tries to run as close as possible to their dial-in time without going under it (which puts you out of the competition).

So any vehicle can potentially win on the day if the operator is consistent enough and has the best reaction times.

[MVnut]

DYO..cool so I guess you're riding your bike to the track....... don't make any adjustments (tyre pressures etc) they will upset your consistency. And if you are in the elims and are in front by a long way and thinking 'this is a quick one' back it off a bit before the line so you don't break out. If you just wanna try your best time, don't wait for the Green, go when the light before goes out. And when you 'stage' stay as forward in the staging area as you can cos otherwise you may roll back off the balls of your boot and be sitting on a red without realising. Go have a blast mate:headbang:

[Timmay]

1983 CBX250rs best time:

16.776s @ 120.37km/hr

Thanks to Jrandom for encouraging me to go and Rider in black for lending me some cash for entry.

Photos coming soon

[kiwifruit]

EJK, Ocean1, owner, Pumba, quallman1234 and Sue VFR were on the money :sunny:

[Timmay]

pics from the drag day

[jrandom]

Yip.

Didn't go under 12.6.

Fookin mint day. Awesome fun.

:sunny:

Ridiculously slippery dragstrip. Stupidly slippery. I was fishtailing for half of it on most of my runs. Couldn't get under 13 seconds until I figured out, on my last practice run, that launching in second gear was necessary to get any decent drive off the line.

Fluffed all my starts in the DYO knockout rounds due to nervousness, of course.

I'm definitely going back for the next session with 15psi less in my rear tyre. If I nail those starts and get just a wee bit more traction up through the first 100m instead of spinning the back wheel everywhere, I'm quite positive Betty will go under 12 seconds.

Many thanks to Stickchick for coming along on the back of Betty and being camera girl (even if I couldn't talk her into racing the EL250), Timmay for kicking all the other bike's arses in the knockout series on his CBX250RS (really) and RiderInBlack for turning up with Zena and giving me some fair competition.

Was quite special having two bleck GSX1400s line up side by side for the last run of the day.

Can't wait for the next one.

[Chrislost]

Yip.


Ridiculously slippery dragstrip. Stupidly slippery. I was fishtailing for half of it on most of my runs. Couldn't get under 13 seconds until I figured out, on my last practice run, that launching in second gear was necessary to get any decent drive off the line.

tis fucked how bad the grip is innit!

hows that tyre looking?

[Stickchick]

hows that tyre looking?

Untouched. One rule for the day from me was no burn-outs due to the tyre being brand new and worth $460.

[quallman1234]

EJK, Ocean1, owner, Pumba, quallman1234 and Sue VFR were on the money :sunny:

Sweet, what's my prize :D? A cup of satisfaction?

[tri boy]

That track must be shocking!
I could 11.8s on a GS1100G at Ravenswood Perth, and the Kat1100 easily did low 11s.
Time for a resurface methinks.:msn-wink:

[martybabe]

Yip.

Didn't go under 12.6.

Fukin mint day. Awesome fun.

:sunny:

Ridiculously slippery dragstrip. Stupidly slippery. I was fishtailing for half of it on most of my runs. Couldn't get under 13 seconds until I figured out, on my last practice run, that launching in second gear was necessary to get any decent drive off the line.

Fluffed all my starts in the DYO knockout rounds due to nervousness, of course.

I'm definitely going back for the next session with 15psi less in my rear tyre. If I nail those starts and get just a wee bit more traction up through the first 100m instead of spinning the back wheel everywhere, I'm quite positive Betty will go under 12 seconds.

Many thanks to Stick chick for coming along on the back of Betty and being camera girl (even if I couldn't talk her into racing the EL250), Timmy for kicking all the other bike's arses in the knockout series on his CBX250RS (really) and RiderInBlack for turning up with Zena and giving me some fair competition.

Was quite special having two black GSX1400s line up side by side for the last run of the day.

Can't wait for the next one.

Excellent, glad yawl had a good day and thanx for the pix. I was hoping for 9.9s, just so I could brag by proxy :laugh: Did you have any Front wheel aloft issues , that's what'd scare me.

I wouldn't mind a go at that, sounds like great fun. :yes:

[jrandom]

Did you have any Front wheel aloft issues

Nup, not a chance. All the bike wanted to do was head sideways with smoke coming off the rear wheel. It was breaking loose in bloody third gear.

I'd love to see what she'd do on a properly prepped track that had a bit more traction than, say, a wet mossy road covered in cowshit. I suspect the front would reach for the sky real good-like in such circumstances.

Heck, I suspect everyone there today would have knocked a good second off their times if we'd just gone out and done the runs on a quarter-mile worth of highway out the front!

:laugh:

[kiwifruit]

yes, the surface really is shocking hey... WHY?

[arj127]

Someone told me they only clean up the surface for major events. And yeah, the track was extremely slippery, but got better. I saw the GSXR1000 and a few other cars wheelspinning for near two thirds of the track distance.

My best was 11.8 @ 186k, so was pretty happy with that considering.
I'm thinking the bike should be good for near 11 flat on a good day.

Nice to meet some of you guys too.

[DMNTD]

Untouched. One rule for the day from me was no burn-outs due to the tyre being brand new and worth $460.

$460.00???? WTF! I hope they apply lube before reaming his bottom!!
FFS...$500.00 a pair

[RiderInBlack]

Glad I when down ta give Jrandom some "immortal" support. Really enjoyed my day even though the wet and rubber was making it hard ta stop "Zena's" arse wiggle:sweatdrop
First run was a sad 13.517s 1/4. Drag Strip was cold and damp. Had dropped the Power Road Two rear to 20psi. Heaps of scary arse wiggling nearly ta the 1/8 mark. Next was a even sadder 13.824 but improved to a 13.135 the following run. The next rub "Zena" just bet "Betty" with a 13.098 to "her" 13.110.
Just before setting my dial-up I dropped ta 15psi and opted to launch in 2nd cracking the 13s mark with a 12.856 so pick 12.8 for the day. Buggered that up first run with a 13.081 getting beaten by a old Datsun 180B with a dial of 18 (he run 18.057):Oops:
Relegated ta the looser row for the grudge matches my next run was the best time of the day for me with a 12.397 just beating a Triple Speed (12.411). Was also my top speed @ the 1/4 for the day. 179.69kph.
Rest of my runs varied between 12.4 and 13.05. Major arse wiggle every time I ended in the left lane. Last run asked the starter ta line me up with Jrandom for a GSX1400K7 head ta head Grudge Match. Dam it ended up in the left lane and got "Zena's" arse whooped by "Betty" 12.833 (@179.73kph) to my 13.023 (@174.77kph):oi-grr: But still enjoyed the run and it made J's day too:msn-wink:

[martybabe]

Nup, not a chance. All the bike wanted to do was head sideways with smoke coming off the rear wheel. It was breaking loose in bloody third gear.

I'd love to see what she'd do on a properly prepped track that had a bit more traction than, say, a wet mossy road covered in cowshit. I suspect the front would reach for the sky real good-like in such circumstances.

Heck, I suspect everyone there today would have knocked a good second off their times if we'd just gone out and done the runs on a quarter-mile worth of highway out the front!

:laugh:

Brilliant, thanx mate,I shall allow 1 second for the road surface and .5 seconds for your nervousness, sticking .3 seconds on for your pipes over standard. Add a little embellishment to the mix and I shall be taking a figure of 11.1 seconds to the pub.Seems fair. :D




Last run asked the starter ta line me up with Jrandom for a GSX1400K7 head ta head Grudge Match. Dam it ended up in the left lane and got "Zena's" arse whooped by "Betty" 12.833 (@179.73kph) to my 13.023 (@174.77kph):oi-grr: But still enjoyed the run and it made J's day too:msn-wink:


I really would have enjoyed that, spose a vids out the question. Oh well good fun, cheers guys. :soon:

[jrandom]

$500.00 a pair

$500? If that's a 190/55 rear in that pair, I'm your bitch.

[oldrider]

Congratulations jrandom. (respect)

Good thread.

One could feel your apprehension and anxiety, leading up to the event and the pump in your posts now that you have achieved your mission for the day.

I have enjoyed it almost as much as you have! :yes: Cheers, John.

[Boob Johnson]

$460.00???? WTF! I hope they apply lube before reaming his bottom!!
FFS...$500.00 a pair
I reckon!!! Low $300's for the rear tops anymore is a rip :spanking:

[limbimtimwim]

Edit: or end up like this fulla (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=100068&d=1215684708).He tossed it so he would have a good excuse to why him in his poseur leathers lost to some other fat git on a ZX14.

I was never good at the traffic light GP.

[Qkchk]

He tossed it so he would have a good excuse to why him in his poseur leathers lost to some other fat git on a ZX14.

I was never good at the traffic light GP.

Not talking about this ZX14? (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1646401#post1646401)

[jrandom]

I reckon!!! Low $300's for the rear tops

Getting PP 2CT rears in the oddball 190/55 profile costs a leetle extra.

I'll probably stick with the 190/50s in the future anyway, so it won't be an issue.

[jrandom]

I think this photograph mostly goes to show that GSX1400s look better with bar-end mirrors and no screen.

:msn-wink:

[nodrog]

I think this photograph mostly goes to show that GSX1400s look better with bar-end mirrors and no screen.

:msn-wink:

is that Dougee on Zena? he owes me a beer!

[EJK]

Sweet, what's my prize :D? A cup of satisfaction?

A cup of "good guess" ;)

[jrandom]

A few more pick chewers of the day.

[kiwifruit]

:spanking:

[avgas]

Nice one mate - told you it wasn't going to be easy to get into 12's.
Get the tree right and i think you will do it

[jrandom]

:spanking:

That's why it was just a leetle one, early in the piece when everything was horrid and cold and whatnot.

[Toaster]

Untouched. One rule for the day from me was no burn-outs due to the tyre being brand new and worth $460.

Now where has your sense of recklessness gone??!!:bleh:


p.s. I have a 130 a 240 and a 250 you can burn out.........:eek:

[RiderInBlack]

I think this photograph mostly goes to show that GSX1400s look better with bar-end mirrors and no screen.

:msn-wink:Beauty is in the eye of the beholder on that one. Ya like ya "Girls" Naked. I Like mine with sexy bras and panties:whistle: Beside "Zena" pipped "Betty" on that run:wari:

Gordie ya just too slow for getting ya beers

[piston broke]

great thread,thanx.
when is the next time that this racing happens?
any ideas on what sorta time my duc should do?

[Pussy]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Get it out.... with Optrex!

[jrandom]

when is the next time that this racing happens?
any ideas on what sorta time my duc should do?

27 July (http://www.framautolitedragway.co.nz/).

13.5 ish?

[piston broke]

cool ta'
what are the rules,got warrant,rego ummm.safety gear,etc?
cost to do the track?
if fine i'll be there

[jrandom]

what are the rules,got warrant,rego ummm.safety gear,etc?

You'll need a driver's licence, current WOF and rego, legal tread on your tyres, a proper riding jacket, helmet and gloves.


cost to do the track?

$15 to get in, $25 to race. So, $40. Bring cash for your entry and to buy food, there's no EFTPOS on site (the Meremere dragstrip is basically a cow paddock at the end of a dirt track).

Don't bother washing your bike before you go, it'll get filthy as soon as you turn off the motorway. In fact, the place is such a shithole you end up spending most of your time in between runs trying to keep mud and dust off your rear tyre.

Be nice if the Auckland area had proper drag racing facilities, wouldn't it?

:no:

[piston broke]

it is still better than hawkes bay,they took our old strip and turned it into vineyards,saaad.
ah rego then,only been out since early 05,on hold tho

[speedpro]

Some funny advice on getting good times. First you gotta warm that rear tyre. Run the lowest pressure you can get away with taking into account handling and turning the tyre on the rim. Burnout in 2nd, stationary initially but move the rear sit to side to avoid scorching the track, then let the front brake off and let it roll about 100m keeping it spinning as fast as possible(redline!). The tyre should be nice and warm and have a good texture for traction. Go back to the start and roll forward to stage. Select whichever gear you are using for the launch and then paddle very slowly forward till you are "just" staged. Left foot down, it's already in gear, and right foot on the back brake to stop the bike moving. This will allow you to move about 50-100mm before you break out. Get yourself in position on the bike - back if it's slippery and forward if sticky, hold the revs at the launch RPM, don't blip it, hold it. Depending on the tree they use and what your reactions are you can feed it gas and clutch way before you see the green and even be moving before the green because of the shallow stage. Hold the revs higher than you need at the start of the run and use the clutch to control power to the ground.
Thunderpark always had good traction and I had to stretch as far as possible over the front and Meremere I had to sit back but balance it if it hooked up by getting forward. 11.3, occassionally 11.2, on a stock GSX1100 and an old '73 Z1. Speeds around 120mph.
The other thing is if you are running DYO you can alter your dial-in through the day. Sometimes I'd change mine every run, especially if it was wet and dry or even if the wind changed.

[arj127]

Do you really need a rego when its not a public road??

[boostin]

Do you really need a rego when its not a public road??
I have run the race bike there with no issues about rego.

[jrandom]

lowest pressure... Burnout...

:yes:

Sounds brutal.

It's pretty obvious that you can't head to the dragstrip and expect to do decent times unless you're prepared to fuck rear tyres.

The scrutineering is really pretty basic. They checked my rego and WOF, but probably only because they were there to check.

I was just waiting for some clueless car dude to ask where the radiator catch bottle was so that I could tell him in reply that he should really be over asking the guy with the rotary whether he needed new piston rings...

;)

[boostin]

:yes:

Sounds brutal.

It's pretty obvious that you can't head to the dragstrip and expect to do decent times unless you're prepared to fuck rear tyres.



I dunno I managed to get 12.4 on the 400 without doing a single burnout all day.

When I was there, not on Sunday.

[DMNTD]

It's pretty obvious that you can't head to the dragstrip and expect to do decent times unless you're prepared to fuck rear tyres.

Go to your local bike shop and score (as in freebie/nada/zilch) a decent 2nd hand tyre,preferably from someone that has chewed out the sides.

[jrandom]

I dunno I managed to get 12.4 on the 400 without doing a single burnout all day.

I bet.

S'all in the traction.

I swear, based on how things went on Sunday, I could have gone out onto the highway that day, measured off a quarter mile and run a sub 12 right there and then.

I must have wasted a solid second in the first 100m of every one of my runs fishtailing around and mucking about with the throttle and clutch trying to stay pointed in the right direction. It was so fucking frustrating. I know how Betty feels jumping off the line when she hooks up, and I got none of that happening at the strip.

Look at the bike in that photo I posted of me a few metres in front of the start line.

Fun but frustrating.

I hear what DMNTD says about the tyre and I'm gonna do that for the next round. Sub 12 or bust!

[Sanx]

Be nice if the Auckland area had proper drag racing facilities, wouldn't it?

Ti Rakau Drive? :Oops:

[Kornholio]

it is still better than hawkes bay,they took our old strip and turned it into vineyards,saaad.
ah rego then,only been out since early 05,on hold tho

Drink more wine then bro :p



Don't bother washing your bike before you go, it'll get filthy as soon as you turn off the motorway. In fact, the place is such a shithole you end up spending most of your time in between runs trying to keep mud and dust off your rear tyre.

Be nice if the Auckland area had proper drag racing facilities, wouldn't it?

:no:

Boohoo you cant always have it squeaky clean :mellow:

Harden up au and adapt to the conditions


Some funny advice on getting good times. First you gotta warm that rear tyre. Run the lowest pressure you can get away with taking into account handling and turning the tyre on the rim. Burnout in 2nd, stationary initially but move the rear sit to side to avoid scorching the track, then let the front brake off and let it roll about 100m keeping it spinning as fast as possible(redline!). The tyre should be nice and warm and have a good texture for traction. Go back to the start and roll forward to stage. Select whichever gear you are using for the launch and then paddle very slowly forward till you are "just" staged. Left foot down, it's already in gear, and right foot on the back brake to stop the bike moving. This will allow you to move about 50-100mm before you break out. Get yourself in position on the bike - back if it's slippery and forward if sticky, hold the revs at the launch RPM, don't blip it, hold it. Depending on the tree they use and what your reactions are you can feed it gas and clutch way before you see the green and even be moving before the green because of the shallow stage. Hold the revs higher than you need at the start of the run and use the clutch to control power to the ground.
Thunderpark always had good traction and I had to stretch as far as possible over the front and Meremere I had to sit back but balance it if it hooked up by getting forward. 11.3, occassionally 11.2, on a stock GSX1100 and an old '73 Z1. Speeds around 120mph.
The other thing is if you are running DYO you can alter your dial-in through the day. Sometimes I'd change mine every run, especially if it was wet and dry or even if the wind changed.

Whatever this guy said.... Serious you follow this and you cant go wrong :done:

[jrandom]

Boohoo you cant always have it squeaky clean

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Y'see, to be perfectly honest, it was just that the day before was the first time I'd washed the bike since, um...

... since I got it last year.

:done:

[Swoop]

Get it out.... with Optrex!
A S.M. fan???

[Pussy]

A S.M. fan???

My oath! One of his excellent quotes! Loved his work :D

[Swoop]

My oath! One of his excellent quotes! Loved his work :D
Woohoo!!!

A Gofongo, if you please,
is a fish with singing knees...:lol:

[Gubb]

...So, can jrandom out-drag the litre bikes?

[jrandom]

...So, can jrandom out-drag the litre bikes?

I certainly wasn't out-dragging Mike Maunder on his GSX-R1000 K7. He ran 10.2s!

However, you might recall that my original claim was that the GSX1400 was not slower than litre bikes up to 100kph. In other words, all other things being equal, I wouldn't expect a stock standard thou (ie, not one running a special rear tyre or with drag-specific gearing or suspension modifications) to pull away from me on the dragstrip until it went over 100kph.

Unfortunately, I don't really think that an un-prepped Meremere is a particularly good place to test the 'all other things being equal' part of that. I'm prepared to leave the question unsettled until I can line up alongside some thous on a properly sticky strip.

:niceone:

Edit: Obviously a < 200kg and > 150hp thou is always going to be just downright faster than my 100-ish hp, 230kg GSX1400. However, the 1400's a lot easier to launch off the torque and keep the front down on. It'd never win any sort of race against a really good pilot on the thou, but I fancy its chances off the line against the average squid on the average day, and I plan on showing sooner or later that I'm not talking entirely out my arse...

[speedpro]

I always thought the newer lighter more powerful bikes would be a real handful off the line. The big easy to use 1400 should launch real good if you can get traction.

[Kornholio]

I always thought the newer lighter more powerful bikes would be a real handful off the line. The big easy to use 1400 should launch real good if you can get traction.

They are.... and they should :Pokey:

[Fat Rat]

remember the guy on the busa could have sat on the line for .5 of a second, reaction times come into play.


you can sit on the start line for 10 seconds if you want to, your et will still be the same. The et time does not start till you break the start beam.....your reaction time only comes into play when racing against someone, because if you sit there for 10 seconds of course you will lose the race!!

Try it next time your at the track on a muck around race.

[Fat Rat]

Someone told me they only clean up the surface for major events. And yeah, the track was extremely slippery, but got better. I saw the GSXR1000 and a few other cars wheelspinning for near two thirds of the track distance.

Unfortunately the track is bloody slippery for the winter meets. It will not be prepped for any of these meets because first off you need good temperature in the track(ie double digits at the least) to spray the VHT or else it just sits on the surface (and this would be like ice) and the other reason is as soon as it rains you have just lost everything you sprayed....and considering it costs around 2k to spray to half track i'm sure you can see why its not prepped.

Just adjust your riding to suit the conditions....hell mike can still manage 10.3's and johnny p.o. managed a personal best of 11.88 at the last meeting on his good old 98 gsxr600!!

[Crazy Steve]

I bet.

S'all in the traction.

I swear, based on how things went on Sunday, I could have gone out onto the highway that day, measured off a quarter mile and run a sub 12 right there and then.

I must have wasted a solid second in the first 100m of every one of my runs fishtailing around and mucking about with the throttle and clutch trying to stay pointed in the right direction. It was so fucking frustrating. I know how Betty feels jumping off the line when she hooks up, and I got none of that happening at the strip.

Look at the bike in that photo I posted of me a few metres in front of the start line.

Fun but frustrating.

I hear what DMNTD says about the tyre and I'm gonna do that for the next round. Sub 12 or bust!

I wouldn't both doin Burn outs..

Find a clean bit of track and keep that line..

The fastest guy on a bike in Nz (Racing quarters) dosnt burn his tyre out...And ive seen him ride his 750 there stock and run high 9's..

Crazy Steve

[jrandom]

Just adjust your riding to suit the conditions....hell mike can still manage 10.3's and johnny p.o. managed a personal best of 11.88 at the last meeting on his good old 98 gsxr600!!

I really reckon that if I head along to the next meet with a fuckable rear tyre I'll be right. A decently low pressure in it and some proper burnies to get it sticky and all will be well.

I ain't havin' no cunt say that the GSX1400's not an 11 second bike.

[jrandom]

The fastest guy on a bike in Nz (Racing quarters) dosnt burn his tyre out...And ive seen him ride his 750 there stock and run high 9's..

The right tyre pressure at the back might be enough to make the difference, then.

:yes:

[Crazy Steve]

Winter Drags last year.GSXR1000K3..Doin 10.3's

Then last Summer 10.1's on a GSXR1000K7..

Year in year out....Practice practice...

Try Taupo dragway.....Its heaps better you get to ride around the rest of the track to warm your tyres up...And do wheelstands..

Crazy Steve..

[jrandom]

Year in year out....Practice practice...

Yip. That too. I'll get there auw!


Try Taupo dragway.....Its heaps better you get to ride around the rest of the track to warm your tyres up...And do wheelstands..

'kin oath, I bet. Who runs drag meets there?

[Crazy Steve]

NZDRA.......

Its more expensive....

But way more fun...And a cleaner track..

See the photo of me...See where im sitting on the track ? ?(Left hand side)

I was there because I had been done that side maybe 200 times in the past....And its bumpy/Slippery..

Some VHT still left on the edges....:)

Crazy Steve..

[Fat Rat]

I really reckon that if I head along to the next meet with a fuckable rear tyre I'll be right. A decently low pressure in it and some proper burnies to get it sticky and all will be well.

I ain't havin' no cunt say that the GSX1400's not an 11 second bike.

With a bit more practise you will get there easily......try different things like taking off in first but with fuck all revs around 2.5 to 3 grand and slip the clutch a wee bit, then nail it as hard as traction allows. With bigger bikes they will turn the rear tyre to easy from the start line because of the down low torque.....something the 600's dont have to worry about, they can load up the revs on the start line.

[bikerboy011]

When is the next event? ill be keen to give it a go :).

[Fat Rat]

Yip. That too. I'll get there auw!



'kin oath, I bet. Who runs drag meets there?

Top Fuel Enterprises runs the strip Taupo. NZDRA just hold 1 or 2 events there a season.

[Crazy Steve]

When is the next event? ill be keen to give it a go :).

http://www.championdragway.co.nz/

27th of July 2008

Crazy Steve

[Crazy Steve]

Wower's...

Crazy Steve..

[Fat Rat]

When is the next event? ill be keen to give it a go :).

check out www.framautolitedragway.co.nz for all future winter dragwar dates...next one is 27 july

[Crazy Steve]

check out www.framautolitedragway.co.nz for all future winter dragwar dates...next one is 27 july

Does my link not work?

Crazy Steve

[Fat Rat]

Does my link not work?

Crazy Steve

yeah it will, i just take longer to type a response than you do lol... plus the track is no longer champion dragway, hasnt been for almost a year

[bikerboy011]

Thanks guys!

[bikerboy011]

Can a stock 600 do it in less than 11 sec?

[jrandom]

Can a stock 600 do it in less than 11 sec?

Raj's one can.

Apparently.

:laugh:

[arj127]

i just found a couple of interesting tips on another website:

A couple of launch tips:
(a) Don't sit on the bike. Lay on it with your legs out behind you almost straight, balancing on your tiptoes. This will give you more weight forward, and help to keep the front end down.

(b) When you stage, roll in until you light both lights, and then back up until the second light goes out, and then move forward only enough to light it up again. This will keep you as far back as possible, and allow you to launch before the green light, yet not break the beam at the front. If you wait until you actually see green....you're late! (I used to leave when the last yellow lit)


Will have to try tip b next time, i was waiting for the light to go green before i launched (to worried about getting red lighted), am going to go back at some stage, maybe summer, and give it a whirl again.

[jrandom]

(a) Don't sit on the bike. Lay on it with your legs out behind you almost straight, balancing on your tiptoes. This will give you more weight forward, and help to keep the front end down.

Sounds like a great idea for a decent prepped dragstrip, terrible idea for an unprepped Meremere in winter. Getting any traction at all with the back end on takeoff is where the challenge lies.

[EJK]

Wower's...

Crazy Steve..

I Don't know if it is you or someone else but theres my friend at work who said "Ah! at the drags there was a GSX 1000R! and he WHIPPED all our asses! ZOOOOM WHOOSH!"

T'is you? :mellow:

Clearer proof: Did you do any burnout or dragged a white Busa?