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James Deuce
12th July 2008, 13:02
They look like a roof rack. The visual clue that the Commodore approaching is a Police car has gone.

Horse
12th July 2008, 13:13
Is this a "I saw one going past" or "DAMHIK"? :)

James Deuce
12th July 2008, 13:28
I saw one going past.

jrandom
12th July 2008, 13:30
Beltronics STi ftw.

kiwifruit
12th July 2008, 13:52
not a problem unless you break the law

jrandom
12th July 2008, 13:54
not a problem unless you break the law

Do you still have that 62mph limiter sitting around?

mowgli
12th July 2008, 14:05
It's something about the grill that aways catches my attention first. Lights come later. Different I spose if the copper is sitting behind another vehicle.

Swoop
12th July 2008, 17:07
Photo's, or it didn't happen.:scooter:

Coyote
12th July 2008, 18:17
Can't say I see many Commodores with roof racks. Wouldn't this become more of a giveaway?

James Deuce
12th July 2008, 18:20
They just don't look like lights. They're about 10cm high. You don't click until you can read "Police" on the side of the car. This one exited Williams and Adams Abel Smith St site on Friday at about midday.

madandy
12th July 2008, 18:26
Beltronics STi ftw.

Indeed.
Identify them before they're visible.

skidMark
12th July 2008, 18:31
Or like, just obey the law and it doesnt matter...

NighthawkNZ
12th July 2008, 18:36
Or like, just obey the law and it doesnt matter...

thats rich...

R6_kid
12th July 2008, 18:37
should help make the car be slightly more fuel efficient than the big wind stoppers they used to have on the roof.

ElCoyote
12th July 2008, 18:57
not a problem unless you break the law

Im sure by saying that you are refering to the arbitrary limit ntroduced by shiny bums who are incapable of doing their designated jobs of reducing road deaths because of their blinkered approach to the actual causes. It appears that you believe their bullshit [read propoganda]. Until Andy Knockstump and his ilk go the same way as Wedgie Parrot, the long suffering motorists will henceforth continue to be victims. Motorcyclists will also suffer but on a larger scale. Your call. Identify the real cause(es) and fix them, don't paraphrase "It's the law". Regarding the law, it is also illegal to expectorate on the pavement or indeed in public, yet the All Blacks (and all blacks) do it with impunity on the rugby field. You should have your nose rubbed in if you think laws are just and equitable. Holier than thou people like you can osculate my arse.:headbang::headbang::headbang:

kiwifruit
12th July 2008, 19:07
Im sure by saying that you are refering to the arbitrary limit ntroduced by shiny bums who are incapable of doing their designated jobs of reducing road deaths because of their blinkered approach to the actual causes. It appears that you believe their bullshit [read propoganda]. Until Andy Knockstump and his ilk go the same way as Wedgie Parrot, the long suffering motorists will henceforth continue to be victims. Motorcyclists will also suffer but on a larger scale. Your call. Identify the real cause(es) and fix them, don't paraphrase "It's the law". Regarding the law, it is also illegal to expectorate on the pavement or indeed in public, yet the All Blacks (and all blacks) do it with impunity on the rugby field. You should have your nose rubbed in if you think laws are just and equitable. Holier than thou people like you can osculate my arse.:headbang::headbang::headbang:

speed kills. slow down and save yourself the tickets :yes:


p/t

ElCoyote
12th July 2008, 19:22
speed kills. slow down and save yourself the tickets :yes:


p/t

You have confirmed my opinion of you . Speed, per se, does not kill , lack of ability and lack of sufficient training before issuing a license sure does.

"CAUTION IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR SKILL"

Until you and the powers that be get your/their head around this very fundamental fact nothing will change and people will die needlessly. On a personal note, I don't care. I will not be statistic in this arena. :nono::nono::nono:

HenryDorsetCase
12th July 2008, 19:39
not a problem unless you break the law

troll troll troll

rottiguy
12th July 2008, 20:00
I just love their bullshit slogan "drive to the conditions, if they change reduce your speed" So ok, in that case it's raining so I'm doing 80 in a 100 zone, then the sun comes out and roads dry up so I am sposed to slow down ? complete crap. They just try to have a cover-all slogan that obviously doesn't cover all. There are plenty of times it is safe to do over 100



You have confirmed my opinion of you . Speed, per se, does not kill , lack of ability and lack of sufficient training before issuing a license sure does.

"CAUTION IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR SKILL"

Until you and the powers that be get your/their head around this very fundamental fact nothing will change and people will die needlessly. On a personal note, I don't care. I will not be statistic in this arena. :nono::nono::nono:

Jez
12th July 2008, 20:21
Even if they introduce an intensive training session for ALL motorists prior to being permitted to commute on the public roads they WILL NOT allow people to travel faster than the "arbitrarily" chosen figure for that area ... 50 70 100 kmph ...

I would be a happy little biker if i knew that all around me were people with sufficient training in their vehicles around me whilst i ride around on the roads. Accidents would decrease, as would road fatalities, which would be fantastic ... HOWEVER they will never increase the speed limits on our roads ... ever ...

a prime demonstration of this is the smoking legislation in place (im a smoker btw) cant smoke in work, or in a pub, have to pay more for them, and get taxed through the a$$ for buying them. Thousands of pages worth of research tells us that smoking does kill, yet they still sell them to the general public (18+ of course) ... wouldnt it be cheaper in the long term to ban smoking out right, thus saving lives and reducing strain on an already stretched health system?

so in the end, regardless of your skill and views on "what speed i want to ride/drive at" you might as well get used to riding within those arbitrary limits if you dont want to pay tickets ...

AllanB
12th July 2008, 20:35
Poos

Its been very warm for Christchurch today - I went on a mid/late afternoon ride to Little River - I had the best of intentions of a quiet cruise.

BUT - it just turned out to be one of those days when it all clicked and I was just buzzing. Consquently a law or two may have been broken :whistle:

I'll add roof racks to my list.

I purchased the Hornet to slow down ........

CB ARGH
13th July 2008, 09:56
I want to see some pictures.

Drew
13th July 2008, 10:05
The LPG stickers, and control box on the dash are still visible.

<Rhino>
13th July 2008, 12:52
I want to see some pictures.

I was thinking the same thing.

Ambo's and some fire apliances have had low pro flashing lights for a while now, they are more of a digi-LED type light I think. Much more powerful and direct than the older versions. Police must have had a new budget or somthing, my guess is its something they will phase in with new cars.

IMO they look pretty damn cool , well on the ambos anyway.

James Deuce
13th July 2008, 13:17
I don't carry a camera with me and if I did ever get handed a phone with a camera in it I'd take to the lens with screw driver.

Just trying to be a community minded biker.

You guys just keep bitching at each other and calling people liars. Seems to give you all some sort of perverse kick.

Daffyd
13th July 2008, 13:39
Im sure by saying that you are refering to the arbitrary limit ntroduced by shiny bums who are incapable of doing their designated jobs of reducing road deaths because of their blinkered approach to the actual causes. It appears that you believe their bullshit [read propoganda]. Until Andy Knockstump and his ilk go the same way as Wedgie Parrot, the long suffering motorists will henceforth continue to be victims. Motorcyclists will also suffer but on a larger scale. Your call. Identify the real cause(es) and fix them, don't paraphrase "It's the law". Regarding the law, it is also illegal to expectorate on the pavement or indeed in public, yet the All Blacks (and all blacks) do it with impunity on the rugby field. You should have your nose rubbed in if you think laws are just and equitable. Holier than thou people like you can osculate my arse.:headbang::headbang::headbang:

Well said!

Bling sent!

mowgli
13th July 2008, 13:41
speed kills. slow down and save yourself the tickets :yes:


Speed, per se, does not kill , lack of ability and lack of sufficient training before issuing a license sure does.

Mistakes lead to accidents. Speed worsens the outcome.

Pumba
13th July 2008, 14:15
Im......blah, blah, blah......Holier than thou people like you can osculate my arse.:headbang::headbang::headbang:


You......blah, blah, blah......I will not be statistic in this arena. :nono::nono::nono:

Stop feeding the trolls, they like it to much

Rockbuddy
13th July 2008, 14:33
I just love their bullshit slogan "drive to the conditions, if they change reduce your speed" So ok, in that case it's raining so I'm doing 80 in a 100 zone, then the sun comes out and roads dry up so I am sposed to slow down ? complete crap. They just try to have a cover-all slogan that obviously doesn't cover all. There are plenty of times it is safe to do over 100

they need to change the "reduce" to adjust

RantyDave
13th July 2008, 14:34
wouldnt it be cheaper in the long term to ban smoking out right
No, and the reason why is fascinating.

Imagine you quit smoking right now and added fifteen years to your life. Now, these would be the fifteen years where you're sitting in a rest home watching telly and video conferencing your grandchildren - in other words the years where you drain resources out of the world at great speed, including getting a pension.

Fifteen years of pension is a whole shitload of money. If a couple of hundred thousand people can cark it fifteen years earlier, that's several hundred thousand shitloads of money which rapidly becomes enough to change government policy.

Banning smoking outright would cost us, the Kiwi taxpayer, a fucking fortune. Which would mean a raise in taxes. Which would be the current government not getting elected back in, not to mention all the fumingly angry smokers.

Dave

vindy500
13th July 2008, 15:13
.... on the rugby field......


just like how we can go over 100kmph on the race track?

CB ARGH
13th July 2008, 15:38
No, and the reason why is fascinating.

Imagine you quit smoking right now and added fifteen years to your life. Now, these would be the fifteen years where you're sitting in a rest home watching telly and video conferencing your grandchildren - in other words the years where you drain resources out of the world at great speed, including getting a pension.

Fifteen years of pension is a whole shitload of money. If a couple of hundred thousand people can cark it fifteen years earlier, that's several hundred thousand shitloads of money which rapidly becomes enough to change government policy.

Banning smoking outright would cost us, the Kiwi taxpayer, a fucking fortune. Which would mean a raise in taxes. Which would be the current government not getting elected back in, not to mention all the fumingly angry smokers.

Dave

Let's just shoot the bastards then. :shutup:

Smoking's discusting. When I'm at Pak'n Save and serve a customer (I'm on checkouts and customer service), the customers like...

"Ohhh heeeeeeey bro... cannii haf a winfeeeeld twentee fiyve?"
then I reply...
"What drugs were they again?"

I call them drugs, cuze that's what they are.

I could go on for hours. Just like in bed. :shit:

Jez
13th July 2008, 16:52
I call them drugs, cuze that's what they are.


yep ... just like alcohol ... because thats what it is :yes:

Wally Simmonds
13th July 2008, 17:50
I automatically assume all late model holdens are cop cars and drive accordingly.

Works for me

Lol to clingin... It's certainly a refreshing surprise to have a check-out operator on a soap box.

Bren
13th July 2008, 17:51
Let's just shoot the bastards then. :shutup:

Smoking's discusting. When I'm at Pak'n Save and serve a customer (I'm on checkouts and customer service), the customers like...

"Ohhh heeeeeeey bro... cannii haf a winfeeeeld twentee fiyve?"
then I reply...
"What drugs were they again?"

I call them drugs, cuze that's what they are.

I could go on for hours. Just like in bed. :shit:
obviously the drugs you need are the ones marked "Prozac" cos you need a chill pill...If I was served like that at my local supermarket I would complain to the management!

phaedrus
13th July 2008, 18:10
"What drugs were they again?"

I call them drugs, cuze that's what they are.


And you sell them. Your customers don't need attitude from you.

CB ARGH
13th July 2008, 18:16
Personally if I was served like I serve people I'd want to smash the operator. :shifty:

Don't you love the pictures on them now?

Sorry... like I said, I can't stop.

James Deuce
13th July 2008, 18:31
It's certainly a refreshing surprise to have a check-out operator on a soap box.

Makes him easier to spot in a crowd. I've put him on my "Day Before Apocalypse Shooting Spree" list.

Just cleaning the laser rangefinder now.

RantyDave
13th July 2008, 19:41
if I did ever get handed a phone with a camera in it I'd take to the lens with screw driver.
Ummmm, why? It's going to prove to be a bit problematic in the 'borrowing a phone' stakes any time in the next ... some ... years.

Besides, the cameras in mobile phones have their purposes. Without them, where would we get inexcusably bad trademe photos of "mint" bikes?

Dave

James Deuce
13th July 2008, 19:59
Combined camera and phone units inevitably = shit phone and shit camera.

I want a phone with a 1 month battery life and a 600km range. Preferably powered by a ZPM so I can blow the world up if sneeze. Stop pissing about with fripperies phone people and design some functional technology.

CB ARGH
13th July 2008, 20:04
Combined camera and phone units inevitably = shit phone and shit camera.

I want a phone with a 1 month battery life and a 600km range. Preferably powered by a ZPM so I can blow the world up if sneeze. Stop pissing about with fripperies phone people and design some functional technology.

Treo Palm 650 (some stupid number)...

Absolute wicked phone, absolute wicked price (not), the battery lasts me about two weeks, although I only do about ten texts within that time and about ten or so calls. Big touch screen, mint.

Good luck on the 600km range though ;)

RantyDave
13th July 2008, 20:06
I want a phone with a 1 month battery life and a 600km range.
Voila! http://www.iridium.com/products/product.php?linx=0001. No word on price, strangely. And no camera.

You'd probably need to carry a lead-acid battery round with you too - but hey, you got the range.

Dave

CB ARGH
13th July 2008, 20:08
Voila! http://www.iridium.com/products/product.php?linx=0001. No word on price, strangely. And no camera.

You'd probably need to carry a lead-acid battery round with you too - but hey, you got the range.

Dave

We really need to keep on topic. I don't help though. Drugs, phones... god dammit I want to see a picture of these cop cars! Tried google and got nothing, aww!

scrivy
13th July 2008, 20:24
Besides, the cameras in mobile phones have their purposes. Without them, where would we get inexcusably bad trademe photos of "mint" bikes?

Dave

What about taking pics of ya mate in the sack with his missus...... :innocent::shifty::shutup:

scrivy
13th July 2008, 20:26
just like how we can go over 100kmph on the race track?

Ask White Trash, he's wondering the same thing........... :dodge::lol:

RantyDave
13th July 2008, 20:32
We really need to keep on topic.
True.

Dave

Swoop
10th August 2008, 14:47
Photo's, or it didn't happen.:scooter:
Right. I spotted this today. Is this the type you are referring to Jim2??

James Deuce
10th August 2008, 14:53
They're like that but narrower and with clearer lenses.

Hitcher
10th August 2008, 15:32
Skinny light booms are par for the course here in the US of A. I'll take some photos. The only photo I currently have, featuring an Oregon State Trooper, has the old fat-boy boom fitted.

Irontusk
10th August 2008, 17:18
just like how we can go over 100kmph on the race track?

Is floppin it out and letting go a vital part of rugby?

<Rhino>
10th August 2008, 17:29
I saw the car with these on last week on SH2 heading south from Upper Hutt, they do look very similer to the ones on that airport truck.

You still see the markings on the car but this certianly makes them harder to spot from a distance!!

Gate0r
11th August 2008, 11:14
cheers for the heads up. I'll keep an eye out

Swoop
20th October 2008, 16:59
Righto.
Can't get more conclusive than this...

Blackshear
20th October 2008, 17:05
Just a quick heads up, madies and gentlemen.
Some whore in a shitty red pre-90's hatchback almost knocked me the fuck out today, and GODDAMN DID THE SIRENS BEHIND ME ALMOST FINISH ME OFF! As I was about to redline it past that silly lady in about 2 seconds.

Mr. Blue was in a stonking great big black Jeep/Ford/Chevvy 5 seater 4x4 ute thing.
Talk about right place right time, not to mention blaaaaardy sneaky. Gave him two thumbs up and received one in kind.

P.s. Has anyone else almost died of a minor cardiac arrest when Plod put on the sirens, mere feet away?

Redline_8749
20th October 2008, 20:27
Nice work swoop

scumdog
20th October 2008, 20:41
P.s. Has anyone else almost died of a minor cardiac arrest when Plod put on the sirens, mere feet away?

Often.

When a smart-arse mate turns it on as I walk past.....:shit:

orangeback
20th October 2008, 20:54
I want to see some pictures.
here you go , they are on triel in all regions , but you ll see them on all cop cars soon , verry hard to spot, other goverment departments eg fire service and ambo have had them for a while, and now the cops are getting in with them

<Rhino>
20th October 2008, 21:01
:o
P.s. Has anyone else almost died of a minor cardiac arrest when Plod put on the sirens, mere feet away?

Couple of weeks back I was comming up Haywards from the P-town side heading towards the Hutt, off in my own little world, sirens come blasting from behind :Police:, I mean I didnt even see this guy at all untill I shit myself when I herd the siren. Look down do'n a mere 105ish!! :Oops: not a problem you say well I being the L plater I am with my L plate proudly on display :doh:thought Oh fuk....... gave a wave to acknowlegde he was there, no where to pull over at this point so slowed and kept going.....we got to the passing lane near the top of the hill just before the cheescutters start and he passes me and in a flash fuks off at great speed over the hill and gone.

Turns out he must have had bigger fish to fry, but gave me a hell og a fright in the process!!

Quailboy
20th October 2008, 21:10
Sure are loud sirens.

I was sitting at the front of some lights the other day next to Mr Plod, visor up enjoying the sunshine, no ear plugs,
next thing I see flashing lights next to me then before I can register whats happening, this ear pearcing, blistering, searing siren blasts the living death out of my right ear as I just about fall of my bike.
Cars at the red lights all stop and he hoons off down the road.

I swear my ear is still ringing.

Slyer
20th October 2008, 21:11
Huh, so the coppers drive autos eh?

Forest
20th October 2008, 21:19
I spotted some sort of Hilux ute type thing on the road yesterday morning around Te Kuiti. It was painted in full Police livery so I assume it was some sort of rural service vehicle.

Griffin
20th October 2008, 21:25
other goverment departments eg fire service and ambo have had them for a while

It might be how Im reading your post, but just in case your mistakenly identifying Ambulance Services in NZ as Government departments... I can assure you - they are not. But oh wouldnt it be lovely...

racefactory
20th October 2008, 22:31
It's something about the grill that aways catches my attention first. Lights come later. Different I spose if the copper is sitting behind another vehicle.

I've heard something about the grill before but personally i haven't had a chance to look at it. What exactly is different about the grill? why would they need a different one?

I have also seen these sneaky police lights that look like roof racks.

I agree with the other guy though, I treat every holden as a police car and you don't get stopped. Learn to bloody hate the things.. after a while you get awesome at identifying them.

TOTO
20th October 2008, 22:51
From yesterday I treat Nissan Maximas like unmarked holdens too...

Grub
20th October 2008, 23:14
Huh, so the coppers drive autos eh?

Yep, have done for about 20yrs when they worked out the extra gas for autos was way less than all the fucked clutches they had to replace

imne1
20th October 2008, 23:34
I automatically assume all late model holdens are cop cars and drive accordingly.
Works for me

Me too (and I've seen the new lights too) although cop cars also sit lower and more firmly on the road due to modified suspension, they all have plain steel rims with no hubcaps, no plate frames and a driver who is attentive and can (usually) actually drive. The behaviour is quite different from other commodore drivers (way too passive and controlled) It all adds to your psychic radar screaming away when they're in range

mowgli
21st October 2008, 06:36
I've heard something about the grill before but personally i haven't had a chance to look at it. What exactly is different about the grill? why would they need a different one?

Pretty sure it's just cosmetic. The yellow/blue marks around the grill make it look like the gnashy teeth of some hungry, motorcycle eating robot monster.... or somat like that :whistle:

vifferman
21st October 2008, 08:06
....they all have plain steel rims with no hubcaps
Apart from some of the SS or whatever models they've got, with alloys and a spoiler. The second to last ticket I got was from a cop driving a black one of these, and they've got some white ones too with all the "POLICE", stripes, etc gubbins on them.

johannvr
21st October 2008, 08:21
here you go , they are on triel in all regions , but you ll see them on all cop cars soon , verry hard to spot, other goverment departments eg fire service and ambo have had them for a while, and now the cops are getting in with them

And by the looks of the one windscreen spotted in the background of the first pic it seems as if there may be a few unmarked Porsches around soon too?

James Deuce
19th December 2008, 14:39
Hah!

I snapped one at the location I originally saw one.

Yes it's a camera phone (mumble mumble)

Scouse
19th December 2008, 14:45
They just don't look like lights. They're about 10cm high. You don't click until you can read "Police" on the side of the car. This one exited Williams and Adams Abel Smith St site on Friday at about midday.Have you thought about maybee it might just be time to visit a optometerist.

James Deuce
19th December 2008, 14:59
Front on it looks like a roof rack.

pzkpfw
19th December 2008, 16:11
There was a thing about these in the paper a few weeks ago.
Claims were:
LED lights = cheap to run and less strain on electrics of cop car.
Low profile = fuel savings.

firefighter
19th December 2008, 16:25
Often.

When a smart-arse mate turns it on as I walk past.....:shit:

Oh so you guys do that too.......:oi-grr::mad::lol:

Madness
11th January 2009, 10:14
It seems they are having "teething problems" (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4815286a11.html).

Anarkist
11th January 2009, 11:41
And by the looks of the one windscreen spotted in the background of the first pic it seems as if there may be a few unmarked Porsches around soon too?

That is cool! :shit:

Need for Speed style Porsche cop cars :laugh:

325rocket
11th January 2009, 17:36
Or like, just obey the law and it doesnt matter...

tui .......

Dodgy
11th January 2009, 17:53
Maybe LTSA should change the slogan to be "drive to the conditions, if they change increase your speed"?

The coppers in Kapiti did an article in the local rag on how they were 'reducing the road toll' by cruising around in GA aircraft, scoffing donuts and then reporting on speedsters, etc to cars full of donut eaters

Funnily, they were photographed in front of a Cessna 172, which is kinda like the flying equivalent of something as boring as a mid 80s 600 (like a GSX600F). They then claimed that no one could outrun it as it does 500kph. What BS, it couldn't even do that in a vertical dive into the ground, all porkers a howling

scumdog
11th January 2009, 19:26
Maybe LTSA should change the slogan to be "drive to the conditions, if they change increase your speed"?

The coppers in Kapiti did an article in the local rag on how they were 'reducing the road toll' by cruising around in GA aircraft, scoffing donuts and then reporting on speedsters, etc to cars full of donut eaters

Funnily, they were photographed in front of a Cessna 172, which is kinda like the flying equivalent of something as boring as a mid 80s 600 (like a GSX600F). They then claimed that no one could outrun it as it does 500kph. What BS, it couldn't even do that in a vertical dive, all porkers a howling

Next thing you'll be saying you don't believe that Hondas are gay either:whistle:

cs363
11th January 2009, 19:42
And by the looks of the one windscreen spotted in the background of the first pic it seems as if there may be a few unmarked Porsches around soon too?

After the fuss about the BMW's the gummint bought? I think not... lol

That looks like the safety car for the Porsche GT3 series, that runs low profile lights like the cops but orange ones.

Matt_TG
11th January 2009, 19:42
Hey Dodgy, the plane is in the air, not running along the road mate.

A 172 Cessna will still do just over 200 km/h at cruise, it would still see where you're are ...

Howsie
11th January 2009, 20:17
Huh, so the coppers drive autos eh?

The only manual ones they have are the rural trucks and the SS Commodore i saw while driving down the motorway last week. Dark green, the guy was driving it like it was his own car.


From yesterday I treat Nissan Maximas like unmarked holdens too...

Yeap i seen those suckers too. They also have/had Mazda 6 wagons, both the 98 and 2000 style Maximas.


Those light look real good. Was chatting to the policeman at Big Boys Toys last year and he said it was over $800,000/yr in fuel costs. Those cop cars sure are comfy, they got all the bling in those rides.

Horse
11th January 2009, 20:52
If the police are worried about fuel costs, they should set a limit of 90km/h for all non-urgent driving. And it'd be safer too, less accidents if you're going slower, NZTA told me so.

scumdog
12th January 2009, 15:50
If the police are worried about fuel costs, they should set a limit of 90km/h for all non-urgent driving. And it'd be safer too, less accidents if you're going slower, NZTA told me so.

We tried that but all the other motorists chugging through town at about 50kph complained and got in the way...:whistle:

Tone165
12th January 2009, 16:48
They still use late model vehs...any car less than 2 yrs old could be a Rozzer.

Cr1MiNaL
12th January 2009, 19:43
fuel savings and less wind drag:wacko: OMG these people are really daft:pinch:

scumdog
19th January 2009, 20:40
fuel savings and less wind drag:wacko: OMG these people are really daft:pinch:

You mean they have MORE wind-drag?????:eek5:

And hence take more fuel to push through the air??:wacko: