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jamiey
16th July 2008, 10:48
:argh:
6.30 am - on my way to work. 40/50kph down Onewa road, dressed in hi-vis jacket, taking my usual precautions steadily getting to work, all good.
Pulled up at the lights I was in the left hand lane ready to go down the transit lane (great). Lights on Red, alongside me a woman driving a small newish silver Mazda pulls up - she's looking at me and knows i'm there - im lit up like a beacon for f**ks sake.
I looked into her car and noticed she was enjoying a nice something for breakfast and a nice hot coffee, i'm chilly on the bike but hey who cares i'm off down the transit lane and will be at work soon with the jug on!!
Lights went green and we pulled away at the same speed.
OK you now all know whats coming.
Just over the lights the lovely young lady in the Mazda , decided to stop concentrate on which direction her car was going in and just let it drive itself over into the left lane. I could not accelerate past her - bus too close in front, so on went the brakes whilst the mazda scraped againts me legs. Are you blind, stupid or both???
Now i'm not a usual ranter about such things they are part of everyday motoring, just so pissed off and needing to get it off my chest.
Also i'm not anti women drivers, it could have easily been a bloke, nor am i anti car drivers, most of us like the convenience from time to time and i quite like my cars too.
Of course i pulled up alongside her further down the road making a very small polite hand gesture about how close she came to pushing me into the gutter - she of course couldn't look anywhere in my direction and carried on looking forwards.
Any lesson from today, yes, if someone driving a car is eating brekkie, drinking coffee, putting on lipstick or any other manner of things - get the f**k out of the way quickly. Hands on sandwiches = non on the steering wheel.
Thanks for listening, safe riding all
Jamie
Mikkel
16th July 2008, 10:53
[QUOTE=jamiey;1648979Lights went green and we pulled away at the same speed.[/QUOTE]
Do you commute on your CBR600?
In that case the above should never be the case, unless a guy in a 911 turbo decides to take you on for a drag race...
But yes, it would have been a scare - and I reckon you let her get off too easily. And no, I am not suggesting that you should have bashed her head in either.
imdying
16th July 2008, 10:55
What did the police say when you reported it?
Dakara
16th July 2008, 10:56
Bugger, obviously she does not yet posess the "knee steering" skill yet... yes I too am guilty of having the occasional munch while driving... but not in bloody traffic.
Good to hear it was nothing more than an "Oh shit moment" :dodge:
jamiey
16th July 2008, 10:58
Do you commute on your CBR600?
In that case the above should never be the case, unless a guy in a 911 turbo decides to take you on for a drag race...
But yes, it would have been a scare - and I reckon you let her get off too easily. And no, I am not suggesting that you should have bashed her head in either.
Yes I do. Perhaps a bit quicker away from the lights would have helped, just @6.30 kinda tired, cold and taking things steady. Plus on a slight hill so steady off the back brake, easy on the gas. Nice safe, conservative riding for my early morning commute. :zzzz:
FJRider
16th July 2008, 11:00
Ahhhhh... the joys of city motorcycle commute's. Have you not grown an extra eye yet... you will. Get a louder horn...AIR HORNS ARE GOOD
Mikkel
16th July 2008, 11:00
Yes I do. Perhaps a bit quicker away from the lights would have helped, just @6.30 kinda tired, cold and taking things steady. Plus on a slight hill so steady off the back brake, easy on the gas. Nice safe, conservative riding for my early morning commute. :zzzz:
Sounds like you could have done with a quick twist of the wrist to wake yourself up as well ;)
Main thing is nothing Bad[TM] happened and you can take the bike back home as well :yes:
jamiey
16th July 2008, 11:03
Bugger, obviously she does not yet posess the "knee steering" skill yet... yes I too am guilty of having the occasional munch while driving... but not in bloody traffic.
Good to hear it was nothing more than an "Oh shit moment" :dodge:
Ahh yes we've all done it at some point. Didn't wanna go too crazy on her, (too pretty). Think it gave her a bit of a fright too as she couldn't look at me further down the road, Maybe she will think twice now and have her brekkie, do her make up etc bfore she leaves for work and save some other biker a similar fate!!
Devil
16th July 2008, 11:14
"Pulled up at the lights I was in the left hand lane ready to go down the transit lane "
I'm assuming you're talking about the lights that cross glenfield/birkenhead ave, up by the shops. Correct me if i'm wrong here.
After those lights, there is only one lane for about 100m before the transit lane starts. So you need to merge, not sit next to someone...
avgas
16th July 2008, 11:26
i don't commute in auckland anymore, i even quit trying to slit my wrists.
Grub
16th July 2008, 11:33
After those lights, there is only one lane for about 100m before the transit lane starts. So you need to merge, not sit next to someone...
:jerry: interesting
jamiey
16th July 2008, 11:36
"Pulled up at the lights I was in the left hand lane ready to go down the transit lane "
I'm assuming you're talking about the lights that cross glenfield/birkenhead ave, up by the shops. Correct me if i'm wrong here.
After those lights, there is only one lane for about 100m before the transit lane starts. So you need to merge, not sit next to someone...
The 2 lanes from Highbury byapss go straight ahead, and the road after the lights isn't split by lines until the traffic merges from Glenfield Ave (road is still 2 lanes wide), it was literally less than 20 mtrs over the lights when she crossed right over into my path, i was perfectly aligned for the transit lane, she had room enough to go down the slow lane, no need to merge, no other traffic. Perhaps though a lesson learned for me today to get into a safer road posistion at the earliest opportunity and make sure i'm not sitting next to anyone eating or not for any longer than i need to..............
kave
16th July 2008, 11:38
Don't get upset about it, it's just another one of the joys of motorcycling. Yesterday I almost got sideswiped, and when I pulled up next to the car to satisfy my curiosity as to whether the driver was txting/reading the newspaper/adjusting the radio, I was suprised to she was using both hands to drink from her breakfast bowl (which was covering her eyes). Its all part of the fun of motorcycling, and puts a little more excitement back in your day.
Devil
16th July 2008, 11:40
The 2 lanes from Highbury byapss go straight ahead, and the road after the lights isn't split by lines until the traffic merges from Glenfield Ave (road is still 2 lanes wide),
Yes, the two lanes go straight ahead.
Yes, after the intersection, it's still about two lanes wide.
No, it's not marked as two lanes until the Transit lane starts at Aorangi place.
Therefore, it is one lane and you need to merge.
You need to take charge of your own safety, either put yourself in front, or put yourself behind.
jamiey
16th July 2008, 11:41
Don't get upset about it, it's just another one of the joys of motorcycling. Yesterday I almost got sideswiped, and when I pulled up next to the car to satisfy my curiosity as to whether the driver was txting/reading the newspaper/adjusting the radio, I was suprised to she was using both hands to drink from her breakfast bowl (which was covering her eyes). Its all part of the fun of motorcycling, and puts a little more excitement back in your day.
So funny:clap:
awayatc
16th July 2008, 11:44
Stebel is your friend.....You have a horn like that and she would have spilled her coffee, bumped her head on the roof and missed at least one hartbeat....
Maybe even pissed her panties......
And wether you would admit it or not, you would have cracked a smile yourself.
The other day I pushed the Stebel button, because I could see a merging car not seeing me......
Poor guy stopped immediately , just about stalled and looked puzzled to his left/right/center/front and back to see where that truckhorn sound was coming from.......(never clued on it was my little scoot.....):scooter:
jamiey
16th July 2008, 11:47
Yes, the two lanes go straight ahead.
Yes, after the intersection, it's still about two lanes wide.
No, it's not marked as two lanes until the Transit lane starts at Aorangi place.
Therefore, it is one lane and you need to merge.
You need to take charge of your own safety, either put yourself in front, or put yourself behind.
Do agree 100% with you Devil, unfortunatley by the time I realised my right leg was nicely decorated with a silver mazda it was evasive action, until i could sit down now and reflect on my own posistioning. One of my golden rules over 13years of biking has been never assume what another driver is gonna do. I assumed she had a nice clear straight road infront of her and was going straight down it, wrong!!
But hey thats what these forums are for, sharing tips and advice - possibly saving someone for a worst fate someday, cheers
What you need is a fog horn and about 20 high powerd Neon lights strapped to your bike so your visable and audable from the moon
Mikkel
16th July 2008, 11:50
You need to take charge of your own safety, either put yourself in front, or put yourself behind.
If the road is that wide you can put yourself right too... :yes:
Left is never good.
TOTO
16th July 2008, 11:50
I am on onewa road 3-4 times a day.
Thanks for the reminder
Fatjim
16th July 2008, 11:51
Riding like a nana is a recipe for disaster. Be decisive! Always take the initiative away from the cages. If you ride faster than they drive you only have to worry about what's in front of you until you stop.
With over 70,000 k of commuting in the last 5 years I've only had 1 or 2 life threatening situations, once when I wasn't lane splitting but imitating a BMW, and the only time I've hit a cage is when I've chosen to.
vifferman
16th July 2008, 12:48
One of my golden rules over 13years of biking has been never assume what another driver is gonna do.
You need to assume all other motorists (even other bikers - I use Onewa Road every morning) are psychopaths.
Oh - and like every one else said: USE YOUR HORN. I always make sure other people know I'm there. I've been hit by three cars and run over a cyclist and pedestrian, so now I tootle vigorously if there's any doubt. I also tootle all those selfish, queue-jumping dicks that go down the left lane, then stop dead with their confirminator on, waiting for someone to let them push in.
jrandom
16th July 2008, 12:51
The Onewa Rd transit lane is a dangerous spot for bikes. In morning rush hour, I prefer to ride down the centerline or on the wrong side of the road.
Cars coming the other way can hardly miss a bike on the centerline with its headlight pointing directly at them. You might upset a few drivers, but you're far less likely to be SMIDSY'd.
MIXONE
16th July 2008, 12:53
Riding like a nana is a recipe for disaster. Be decisive! Always take the initiative away from the cages. If you ride faster than they drive you only have to worry about what's in front of you until you stop.
With over 70,000 k of commuting in the last 5 years I've only had 1 or 2 life threatening situations, once when I wasn't lane splitting but imitating a BMW, and the only time I've hit a cage is when I've chosen to.
:Oi:I ride a beema and I lane split.
Badjelly
16th July 2008, 13:00
...once when I wasn't lane splitting but imitating a BMW...
How does one imitate a BMW? (Assuming, of course, that one isn't a BMW?)
jrandom
16th July 2008, 13:07
How does one imitate a BMW?
Flip-front helmet, arrogant glares at other road users, and hard luggage packed with cardigans and slippers.
Fatjim
16th July 2008, 13:37
:Oi:I ride a beema and I lane split.
The exception that proves the rule. (Good on you)
How does one imitate a BMW? (Assuming, of course, that one isn't a BMW?)
By driving your bike, and not riding it. Definately no lane splitting and if you can hold cars up as well you're at the peak of your skills.
Flip-front helmet, arrogant glares at other road users, and hard luggage packed with cardigans and slippers.
Not even close. But on the right path.
MIXONE
16th July 2008, 13:41
How does one imitate a BMW? (Assuming, of course, that one isn't a BMW?)
Flip-front helmet, arrogant glares at other road users, and hard luggage packed with cardigans and slippers.
How does one imitate a fat cunt?
By riding slow as at the drags.
Your bike needs a turbo or a skinny runt like me to get into the 11"s.:laugh::bleh:
jrandom
16th July 2008, 13:45
Your bike needs a turbo or a skinny runt like me to get into the 11"s.:laugh::bleh:
No, it just needs some traction, which I shall make a point of proving before the year's out.
:sunny:
Gubb
16th July 2008, 14:18
Get a louder horn...AIR HORNS ARE GOOD
SORRY i CAN'T HEAR YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK UP A BIT?
madbikeboy
16th July 2008, 15:42
So funny:clap:
Not funny to me. Their inattention causes pain to me. I've got low tolerance for other peoples stupidity causing me harm. I still think giving said inattentive drivers an attitude readjustment is the best course. Next time they will pay attention.
Swoop
16th July 2008, 16:01
Not funny to me. Their inattention causes pain to me. I've got low tolerance for other peoples stupidity causing me harm. I still think giving said inattentive drivers an attitude readjustment is the best course. Next time they will pay attention.
A mirrorectomy or a good door-kickin' seems to get the desired reponse.
Fatjim
16th July 2008, 17:26
You know you've done it right when you get a letter from the police about "punching another vehicle". Hardly a moving violation is it.
mnkyboy
16th July 2008, 17:45
You know you've done it right when you get a letter from the police about "punching another vehicle". Hardly a moving violation is it.
Or one for kicking a dent into a new Honda cause they U turned in front of you!!!
Even had a call from their insurance company to try and get something out of me.
dwnundabkr
16th July 2008, 21:08
Flip-front helmet, arrogant glares at other road users, and hard luggage packed with cardigans and slippers.
:killingme:killingme:killingme
not heard that one before not bad not bad
MaxCannon
16th July 2008, 21:58
Ummm isn't part of biking risking your neck every time you hop on your steed.
I ride everyday to work.
Just about everyday some twit in a car (and less often a bus / truck / scooter) does something stupid that means I have to be on my guard or risk a minor or major incident.
From following too close to changing lanes without indicating to running red lights, other motorists seem more intent on txting, playing with the radio, staring into space or eating their brekkie than concentrating on driving.
Personally I blame the weak ass driving test, it is waaaaaaay to easy to get a car license (and a bike license too)
When I got my full license there wasn't even a test.
On Sunday I saw a driver training car with a half wit learner pull right in front of an oncoming car.
Did the instructor tell him to pull over and cancel the lesson there and then.
Hell no - they kept driving along, half way over the centre line causing a menace to other traffic.
If it was me teaching someone to drive I'd have screamed at them till they cried and forbidden them from driving outside closed roads until they learnt how to control the vehicle properly.
However - I'm willing to take a risk since I save a small fortune on petrol, have a reliable consistent journey time, have no parking worries and keep some of my sanity intact rather than rotting for hours in traffic.
westie
16th July 2008, 22:19
Did you use your horn or were you too busy staring back at her beauty?
Used to play a little game on the motorway where I'd get a car fading across the lane into mine right next to me and I'd see how far they'd get whilst I rode next to their window looking at them before they realised I was there. One lady swerved back across two lanes onto the shoulder then swerved back on. Funny as fuck.
Stopped that now it was pretty dangerous.
Badjelly
17th July 2008, 10:15
Ummm isn't part of biking risking your neck every time you hop on your steed?
'Fraid so.
Personally I blame the weak ass driving test
Sure, but it doesn't really matter what you blame, does it? It's just something you have to live with & take account of, or stop riding. Breaking a few mirrors and kicking a few doors isn't going to make a dent in the problem (pun intended). Actually, I think it will make things slightly worse.
Me, I've only kicked one door, and that was a long time ago.
FJRider
17th July 2008, 10:32
Sure, but it doesn't really matter what you blame, does it? It's just something you have to live with & take account of, or stop riding. Breaking a few mirrors and kicking a few doors isn't going to make a dent in the problem (pun intended). Actually, I think it will make things slightly worse.
Me, I've only kicked one door, and that was a long time ago.
I saw a guy try to kick a car door once...kicked too hard and broke two toes...in the resulting pain, over-corrected and ended up in a ditch.
sorry i can't hear you, can you speak up a bit?
stop shouting im going deaf
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