Laguna - Spoiler!

[denill]

Well Gaz. That WAS a race and your man won it by racing. :argh:

Great race, piss poor TV coverage.

Cheers
Bill

[Bikernereid]

Coverage in the UK was bloody brilliant. Shame about James and Dani.

Bloody antipodeans!! Thank God for Rossi

[denill]

Tyres: 1st three Bridgestone - next three on Michelins.

Not the B/S domination that was talked about?

[Badjelly]

...piss poor TV coverage.


Why?

(I haven't seen the race yet. Mrs Jelly said I had to go to work. So I followed it on the MotoGP WWW site.)

[k14]

Lol, stoner is a little bitter after that one! I do agree that rossi did do some hard manouvres but come on, this is racing. Bad form to complain. He'll still win the championship though :)

[Bikernereid]

Any people talk about winging pomes! Pleased to see that James didn't fob off his 9th position result.

[Cajun]

yeah rossi pulled a huge gap
13secs back to stoner with
and 26 back to 3rd

was interesting to watch the live timing from work,

spies didn't do to bad 8th,

ahead of alot of bigger names

[denill]

Why?

(I haven't seen the race yet. Mrs Jelly said I had to go to work. So I followed it on the MotoGP WWW site.)

I s'pose it was more me being frustrated by watching what the director chose - when I was interested in what was happening back in the field.

Guess there's no substitute for - being there! Eh.

[yod]

Lol, stoner is a little bitter after that one! I do agree that rossi did do some hard manouvres but come on, this is racing. Bad form to complain. He'll still win the championship though :)

yeah i agree....the whining afterwards was a bit much

just shut up and get on with it

[roogazza]

The Ducati is fast ! but I wish the little boy would take it without the
sow puss face !
What can I say boys , that was fair and square wasn't it ? and I wish those fucken pommy commentators would be just that, commentators, and not tall poppy choppers.

:wari::wari::wari::wari: ROSSI ROSSI ROSSI !!!!!! Gazman.

[codgyoleracer]

Maybe it was the tyres last year................. :-)

[jrandom]

Agreed that Stoner should have taken his loss like a man. Rossi didn't endanger him with any of the close passes, it was all good clean fast riding. Stoner was just pissed off because he lost.

Watching that action up front, I mean, you just gotta say - is Rossi the greatest motorcycle racer of modern times, or what?

Beautiful stuff.

[k14]

The Ducati is fast ! but I wish the little boy would take it without the
sow puss face !
What can I say boys , that was fair and square wasn't it ? and I wish those fucken pommy commentators would be just that, commentators, and not tall poppy choppers.

:wari::wari::wari::wari: ROSSI ROSSI ROSSI !!!!!! Gazman.
Yep, totally agree. Was done fair and square. It was rossi saying, yes boy i know you're fast but i haven't won 5 world championships for nothing :bash:

Bring on brno.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Was a race and a half! Hats off to the winner!!

[NZsarge]

The Ducati is fast ! but I wish the little boy would take it without the
sow puss face !
What can I say boys , that was fair and square wasn't it ? and I wish those fucken pommy commentators would be just that, commentators, and not tall poppy choppers.

:wari::wari::wari::wari: ROSSI ROSSI ROSSI !!!!!! Gazman.

+1 there was only one moment that you could really call dodgy and that was at the corkscrew where Rossi braked too late and left the track but so did Stoner only he failed to keep the bike upright.

[Cajun]

'The Bridgestone PR man just dropped off a document detailing which rider chose what tire compound for today's race. Currently Valentino Rossi and Casey Stoner are locked in a fierce battle for the lead (Rossi's gap on lap 12: .072).

Both Bridgestone riders, Rossi and Stoner chose identical rubber--medium compound front, and a hard compound rear'

[codgyoleracer]

If Stoner was "allowed" enough corners to "get away" - I believe he would have done just that. Rossi's tactics were stunning & effective. But I suspect that Mr Stoner will have learnt a hell of a lot from it all.

[roogazza]

Lol, stoner is a little bitter after that one! I do agree that rossi did do some hard manouvres but come on, this is racing. Bad form to complain. He'll still win the championship though :)

Rossi loves to fight. Stoner was out ridden and we've seen it before, he needs to learn how to be a champion. G.

[denill]

Rossi loves to fight. Stoner was out ridden and we've seen it before, he needs to learn how to be a champion. G.

Yeah Gaz, it's your day.:2thumbsup Bring on Brno. Cheers. Bill

[NZsarge]

yeah i agree....the whining afterwards was a bit much

just shut up and get on with it


Agreed that Stoner should have taken his loss like a man. Rossi didn't endanger him with any of the close passes, it was all good clean fast riding. Stoner was just pissed off because he lost.

Watching that action up front, I mean, you just gotta say - is Rossi the greatest motorcycle racer of modern times, or what?


Yes, he won on a slower bike. :niceone:

[yod]

exactly - rossi was 4th in the top speed list, stoner was first

the battle for 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the closing laps of SBK at Brno was some good racing too

[k14]

Rossi loves to fight. Stoner was out ridden and we've seen it before, he needs to learn how to be a champion. G.
Yeah I think even stoner was starting to believe all the press wondering how much he could win by. Rossi well an truely out raced him. Brno will be interesting, ducati have gone well there in the past.

[k14]

exactly - rossi was 4th in the top speed list, stoner was first

the battle for 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the closing laps of SBK at Brno was some good racing too
I would hardly call 1.5kph a speed advantage light and day. Spies and Hacking were ahead of rossi too, where were they?? Faster isn't only just in a straight line.

[Cajun]

interesting looking at some of the fastest times

1 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Team DUCATI 262.8 Qualifying Practice
11 Ben SPIES USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP SUZUKI 260.4 Race
46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team YAMAHA 260.2 Warm Up
12 Jamie HACKING USA Kawasaki Racing Team KAWASAKI 260.2 Race
50 Sylvain GUINTOLI FRA Alice Team DUCATI 257.9 Qualifying Practice

Intesting how the two americans, were faster during the race, than they where in practice/qualifying

------------
Top speed & average

interesting reading on here
http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/xx/2008/MotoGP/USA/RAC/average+speed.pdf
stoner by is only 0.7km faster than rossin on average

but still hacket and spies are in top 5 for speeds, on so called 'slower machineny (kawasaki,suzuki)'

[NZsarge]

I would hardly call 1.5kph a speed advantage light and day. Spies and Hacking were ahead of rossi too, where were they?? Faster isn't only just in a straight line.

They were only peak speeds, Rossi was consistently being closed down on any part of the track with a decent straight in it hence passing Rossi on the outside of the front straight eh...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I can't believe how many 'moments' Stoner had early on!

[jrandom]

I can't believe how many 'moments' Stoner had early on!

Oh aye!

There was a bit of footage from Rossi's rear-facing bike cam showing Stoner crossing it up and wiggling all over the show and then immediately lifting the front at one point which just had me boggling.

I'm in awe of the skill and balls that those guys have.

[denill]

I would hardly call 1.5kph a speed advantage light and day. Spies and Hacking were ahead of rossi too, where were they?? Faster isn't only just in a straight line.

Poor Hayden was about 6ks down on the FACTORY Honda? I know top speed's not every thing but 6ks is a bit much!

[Badjelly]

I'm in awe of the skill and balls that those guys have.

Naah. These days with traction control, anyone can ride a MotoGP bike :whistle:

[jrandom]

Naah. These days with traction control, anyone can ride a MotoGP bike :whistle:

Chortle snort, not going by the way the back end of Stoner's bike was behaving!

[NZsarge]

I can't believe how many 'moments' Stoner had early on!


Chortle snort, not going by the way the back end of Stoner's bike was behaving!

First time in ages if seen the back end of that bike wagging around much....Traction control glitch? .... :whistle: :corn:

[denill]

Cycle News - "Rossi congratulated Stoner in the cool-off area after the race but got a lecture back on the rough passes. Rossi reportedly smiled and simply said "That's racing, Casey".

Very true and Stoner was taught a lesson. And I think he'll profit from it.

[Cajun]

'Rossi stopped in the Corkscrew on the cool-off lap, handed his bike to two fans, got down and kissed the tarmac.

Buzz-kill struck instantly as SCRAMP officials nabbed the two spectators who jumped the fence and were holding Rossi's Yamaha, pulled their passes and threw them out of the circuit.'

what a bunch of spoil sports

[NZsarge]

'Rossi stopped in the Corkscrew on the cool-off lap, handed his bike to two fans, got down and kissed the tarmac.

Buzz-kill struck instantly as SCRAMP officials nabbed the two spectators who jumped the fence and were holding Rossi's Yamaha, pulled their passes and threw them out of the circuit.'

what a bunch of spoil sports

Oh you can't be too careful these days, those guys might have been terrorist's there to blow up Rossi's bike! :rolleyes::laugh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Cycle News - "Rossi congratulated Stoner in the cool-off area after the race but got a lecture back on the rough passes. Rossi reportedly smiled and simply said "That's racing, Casey".

Very true and Stoner was taught a lesson. And I think he'll profit from it.

As tough as some of Rossi's moves were...I have to agree with him...that's racing!

[jrandom]

Traction control glitch? .... :whistle: :corn:

Heh!

I'd say more like Angry Right Hand Casey glitch.

Did you note the little bit of the race where they showed slide-bars displaying Rossi and Stoner's brake and throttle inputs at the bottom of the screen?

Stoner was all, WHAM full brake, WHAM full throttle, rinse and repeat. Rossi was feathering both of them much more noticeably.

[jrandom]

As tough as some of Rossi's moves were...I have to agree with him...that's racing!

That bit of offroading through the corkscrew was just about superhuman.

Say what you like about the man, I think he knows how to ride a motorcycle better than anyone else alive right now.

[denill]

As tough as some of Rossi's moves were...I have to agree with him...that's racing!

How was the barbie Pete. Hope you didn't choke on the bacon when some of those passing moves were being made?

[NZsarge]

Heh!

I'd say more like Angry Right Hand Casey glitch.

Did you note the little bit of the race where they showed slide-bars displaying Rossi and Stoner's brake and throttle inputs at the bottom of the screen?

Stoner was all, WHAM full brake, WHAM full throttle, rinse and repeat. Rossi was feathering both of them much more noticeably.

That's because Stoner's bike has superior T/C.........:shifty::laugh::corn:

[Crasherfromwayback]

How was the barbie Pete. Hope you didn't choke on the bacon when some of those passing moves were being made?

Got so carried away watching the race we didn't fire it up!

[merv]

Got so carried away watching the race we didn't fire it up!

Phew at least you wouldn't burn the place down while you were too busy not watching the barbie :eek5:

Love the post race comments - you'd love the Suzuki comment huh:


Valentino Rossi – Racewinner


`For me it has been fantastic. It´s the first time that I´ve been able to win here, and it was an unbelievable race. The crew made some modifications and I was able to take a much better pace. I had a good start, then a great battle with Casey, which was a lot of fun. It´s an important victory –very emotional- and now in the summer break we will relax, because the championship is so long.´Casey Stoner – Second Placed


`The mistake I made past halfway was mine; I ran a little wide and lost the front on the turn as I tried to get back on track. It was race over after that. I enjoyed a lot of the race, but I felt that some of the passes a bit too much for me. I´ve been racing for a lot of years and have come through a lot of different ranks, and for me just a couple of passes were a little too much. I would have liked to have had a little bit of a cleaner battle, but anyway we are happy with the result. We´re still at the front of the championship and not too far off.´
Chris Vermeulen – Third Placed[/SIZE]


`It was difficult starting from the third row, and these guys got away early. I had a bit of a battle with Hayden and Dovizioso for a few laps, and once we got past them then we had more pace than everyone else. These two were too quick for us today. To be back on the podium in the dry proves that Suzuki are improving, and I´m looking forward to Brno now.´

[denill]

Have you guys wondered just how significant it was for Stoner to ride into the gravel, topple over, pick it up and get going again - and still finish so far ahead of The Vermin et al ??

Rossi and Stoner were so much quicker than the rest, it was almost embarasing! :confused: :confused:

[codgyoleracer]

Have you guys wondered just how significant it was for Stoner to ride into the gravel, topple over, pick it up and get going again - and still finish so far ahead of The Vermin et al ??

Rossi and Stoner were so much quicker than the rest, it was almost embarasing! :confused: :confused:

In order of importance & reason: 1) Tyres 2)Tyres & 3) Tyres ?

[denill]

In order of importance & reason: 1) Tyres 2)Tyres & 3) Tyres ?

Nah. Don't think it's that simple. One factor perhaps. The whole package another, but the riding ability of those two is also a BIG BIG factor.

[codgyoleracer]

For sure they are the best two riders out there at the moment as well, but they have one consistentcy that seperates them from the rest of the field as well & it starts with a capital "B" & they are the only two that recieve "special attention...........". So if we are looking to find a key difference then that would be it.
The bikes, riders style, teams are completly different - but the tyres are very similar in technology - albiet engineered to their personal preference no doubt ?

Hey , what happened to Mr Ed ?

[Chrislost]

Heh!

I'd say more like Angry Right Hand Casey glitch.

Did you note the little bit of the race where they showed slide-bars displaying Rossi and Stoner's brake and throttle inputs at the bottom of the screen?

Stoner was all, WHAM full brake, WHAM full throttle, rinse and repeat. Rossi was feathering both of them much more noticeably.

its been like that the last 3 times ive seen them together like that.
i think ducatti need to wind up his traction control a notch.
go rossi, go!
oh and bridgestones rock!

[robertydog]

It would have to be one of the best races ive seen for a long time.

[Cajun]

shows some skill really


'Rossi's moment at the Corkscrew and a pass on Casey at turn five being the most memorable. The race was decided by what Casey first said was 'completely my mistake.' Later he was said he thought the mistake happened because Valentino braked a little early for Turn 11. That was at the post-race press conference; immediately after the race Casey had refused Rossi's hand in parc ferme and offered the opinion that some of the passes had been beyond aggressive.'

[SPman]

but I felt that some of the passes a bit too much for me.
That's what you get at the top of the top level,Casey! . I was amazed that neither rider took each other out - riding like they were - that is class!

[skaz]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69369
Above is an article about Casey's complaint and Rossi's response. I thought it was by far the most entertaining race of the season and Casey is being a whiney little cry baby. Roll on Brno :headbang:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi loves to fight. Stoner was out ridden and we've seen it before, he needs to learn how to be a champion. G.

Jeez you've got a short memory Gaz! It was only last season that Rossi complained bitterly about Tony Elias's passing moves!! And none of them were that tough!

[k14]

Jeez you've got a short memory Gaz! It was only last season that Rossi complained bitterly about Tony Elias's passing moves!! And none of them were that tough!
Yeah that is true. The only one that was fully dodgy was when rossi went onto the dirt down the corkscrew. When he came back on he nearly clipped stoner. The others were hard but fair, rossi wasn't giving an inch, stoner was giving too much room.

[nudedaytona]

For sure they are the best two riders out there at the moment as well, but they have one consistentcy that seperates them from the rest of the field as well & it starts with a capital "B" & they are the only two that recieve "special attention...........". So if we are looking to find a key difference then that would be it.
The bikes, riders style, teams are completly different - but the tyres are very similar in technology - albiet engineered to their personal preference no doubt ?

Hey , what happened to Mr Ed ?

Yeah but wasn't Melandri on Bridgestones too, with same bike as Stoner and he'es yuuusless!

[merv]

Nice dirt-tracking, why wasn't Hayden up there doing that, him being a dirt-tracker and all?

[denill]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69369
Above is an article about Casey's complaint and Rossi's response. I thought it was by far the most entertaining race of the season and Casey is being a whiney little cry baby. Roll on Brno :headbang:

The racing was the closest we've seen for a long time, cos some of the maneuvers were pretty close.

Stoner tho should have just grinned. And thought silently about pay-back. He didn't and now Rossi knows he's got to him. And you know how it likes to do that to his (close) opponents. :nono: :nono:

[sAsLEX]

Rossi loves to fight. Stoner was out ridden and we've seen it before, he needs to learn how to be a champion. G.

The last true challenge to Rossi's crown was poor old Sete....... he was never slower than Rossi, but Rossi beat him in racecraft and mind games.

[robertydog]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/7516543.stm

You will love this

[Cleve]

It was a brilliant race between the 2 guys who are obviously a step above the rest (although an absent Dani and an early exit Lorenzo - on Michelins - may have been closer).
Rossi was BRILLIANT. I have enormous respect for both men as racers but lost A LOT of respect for Casey as a man after the race with his comments.
Lets hope the rest of the season brings races like that (with Dani and Lorenzo in with the mix as well!!)...

[fredie]

Yep, totally agree. Was done fair and square. It was rossi saying, yes boy i know you're fast but i haven't won 5 world championships for nothing :bash:

Bring on brno.
7:spanking:

[Mort]

what a great race...

I must say my respect for Stoner has dropped. He is clearly a great rider and made one of the greatest races in motogp but instead chose to effectively accuse Rossi of cheating instead of recognising a hard fought but superb race and moving to 2nd in the championship. Stoner comes across as a whinging moaner and not for the first time...

I'm with Rossi for the championship. Time for the Rossi mind-games to begin I think.

[denill]

what a great race...

I must say my respect for Stoner has dropped. He is clearly a great rider and made one of the greatest races in motogp but instead chose to effectively accuse Rossi of cheating instead of recognising a hard fought but superb race and moving to 2nd in the championship. Stoner comes across as a whinging moaner and not for the first time...

Yeah, Rossi is ahead in the mind games - as he usually is.

If Stoner doesn't stump up now, that could be the championship gone. :(

[denill]

"It has been shown several times that if things get personal then Valentino tends to come out on top. This has been demonstrated to both Mr Biaggi and Mr Gibernau. The Doctor does not waste ammunition on those opponents who are not a threat to him."

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080720rn.htm>And More:</A>

[nudemetalz]

and 2 pics from another website !!!

Awesome race and Mr Stoner is a sore loser !!!

[Cajun]

and 2 pics from another website !!!

Awesome race and Mr Stoner is a sore loser !!!

bet me to it was just about to post that one of Mr Stoner

[svr]

You lot are a bit quick putting the knife into Stoner. Even Rossi has said his comments are understandable. The young fella was speaking his mind which is better than the corporate PC lies we normally have to stomach from sportsmen who are thinking something else.
Rossi knew that all Stoner needed was 3 corners to get away - and showed all his incredible passing skill in denying him. About half the passes (from each rider) were pretty desperate - not a worry if you're watching or happen to win... Rossi will have to keep qualifying / starting with Stoner to keep pulling this trick off, of course.
What a treat though! Bit of a worry that Stoner can crash and still finish second comfortably - motoGP (and Michelin) needs a fit Pedrosa, Lorenzo (traction control my arse) & a Dovisioso with another year's experience. And another 15 bikes on the grid.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You lot are a bit quick putting the knife into Stoner. Even Rossi has said his comments are understandable. The young fella was speaking his mind which is better than the corporate PC lies we normally have to stomach from sportsmen who are thinking something else.
.

I'm with you on that! None of them seem to remember Rossi moaning about anything last year!

[pritch]

I'm with you on that! None of them seem to remember Rossi moaning about anything last year!

He did have some cause; promises were made and not kept. It must have been immensely frustrating.

Stoner has developed into a top class rider, he can win anywhere, in the wet or in the dry. What I can't understand is how come he is the only person in the world who seems to be able to ride that bloody Ducati. Capirossi was always competitive until he got it, Milandri is no mug either.

Rossi has more "lines" than anybody else, this weekend Stoner got to look at some...

[jrandom]

I'm with you on that! None of them seem to remember Rossi moaning about anything last year!

I think the thing is, Rossi may have been a bit of a prima donna last year, but Stoner looked genuinely rattled and pissed off after yesterday's race, which doesn't bode too well for his ability to handle the jandal.

He definitely looked like he was riding at 100% at Laguna Seca. It must suck to realise that when the chips are really all down and the playing field is level, the other guy can bring more mojo to the table than you can.

And I guess world champion level GP racers have never been known for their humility...

Who gives a fuck, it all makes the racing far more entertaining!

:2thumbsup

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi has more "lines" than anybody else, this weekend Stoner got to look at some...

Yeah was interesting to see the different lines they both took sometimes.

Gonna be a great finish to the year me thinks.

[Cajun]

He did have some cause; promises were made and not kept. It must have been immensely frustrating.

Stoner has developed into a top class rider, he can win anywhere, in the wet or in the dry. What I can't understand is how come he is the only person in the world who seems to be able to ride that bloody Ducati. Capirossi was always competitive until he got it, Milandri is no mug either.

Rossi has more "lines" than anybody else, this weekend Stoner got to look at some...

maybe bike is designed a bit more for his needs as a rider, than the other two

[NZsarge]

I'm with you on that! None of them seem to remember Rossi moaning about anything last year!

Just remember though, the next time you say Rossi is being a moaning c*nt he is'nt the only one aye.

[Hoon]

Rossi's dirt tracking at the corkscrew was an amazing display of skill. No only did he keep it upright but he also kept his place. How can any mortal have a moment like that and still keep on the gas?!?!?

They almost came together after that but no one at fault. Rossi was recovering while Stoner was trying to pass on the outside so was unintentional

Rossi did swerve into Stoner tho when he was making a pass on Rossi on the front straight but Rossi did pull up short just before hitting him. If Stoner got a fright from that and backed off then thats his fault.

Also Stoner still coming in 2nd was more due to the 30s gap they had. It still cost him 16s. In a typical race that would've been 10 places.

And Lorenzos high side was spectacular.

Best Race in a long time. A definate keeper.

[sAsLEX]

Who gives a fuck, it all makes the racing far more entertaining!

:2thumbsup

I just want the hot Columbian and Danika to have a proper cat fight! Now that would make American car racing exciting!

[Toast]

Quality race. Stoner is being a bitch. I imagine he realises it now and wouldn't really care anymore but he's already gone and opened his mouth on tv and it's all over the internet so it's a bit hard to take it back now.

[sAsLEX]

Max gets the treatment Rossi style!


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and Sete



Rossi and his chief mechanic, Jeremy Burgess, insisted that they were doing nothing more than what many others had done before when faced with a dirty track and Rossi accused Gibernau of being behind the move to appeal for a sanction, something the Spaniard categorically denied. Since then the two have not spoken and Rossi seemed to resolve to use the incident to apply psychological pressure on Gibernau.He is said to have sworn that after the Qatar race, which Gibernau won while Rossi crashed out after rising to 6th position, he would do everything to make sure that Gibernau never stood on the highest step of the podium again



Gibernau retired from Grand Prix racing after an unsuccessful, injury blighted 2006 season with Ducati and he never won another race after Qatar, prompting some in the Spanish and Italian motorcycle racing media to explain this fact by way of reference to the "Qatar curse".

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Be very careful Stoner, you never pick on the biggest guy in the bar!

[gav]

You lot are a bit quick putting the knife into Stoner. Even Rossi has said his comments are understandable. The young fella was speaking his mind which is better than the corporate PC lies we normally have to stomach from sportsmen who are thinking something else.
Rossi knew that all Stoner needed was 3 corners to get away - and showed all his incredible passing skill in denying him. About half the passes (from each rider) were pretty desperate - not a worry if you're watching or happen to win... Rossi will have to keep qualifying / starting with Stoner to keep pulling this trick off, of course.
What a treat though! Bit of a worry that Stoner can crash and still finish second comfortably - motoGP (and Michelin) needs a fit Pedrosa, Lorenzo (traction control my arse) & a Dovisioso with another year's experience. And another 15 bikes on the grid.

I think Laguna really suited Rossi for his plan of spoiling Stoner's lines and the Ducati still isnt as agile as the nimble Yamaha, can't see him doing the same at Brno though. The long straight and big wide smooth corners is going to be a different environment to the tight, bumpy, dirty off the main line setup that is Laguna.
Interesting to see another Yamaha/Ducati dice in WSBK though, this time the Ducati came out on top.

[Cleve]

watched that Laguna race 3 times now and can't get enough (as an aside the Eurosport commentary guys were so much more passionate than the BBC guys, so think when I download from racingunderground again will always so the Eurosport version).
Yes that race is up there with the Biaggi and Gibernau battles with Rossi. Except I think Stoner is someone who is actually up to the challenge more than those other 2 ever were.

[merv]

Always love the stuff on Soup like this picture http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2008/mgp/laguna/graeme/2/_BEE1433.htm

'Ya know, I rode a Ninja once, too...in Top Gun. I wheelied it. Didn?t end up on crutches, though.'

[merv]

Then this one http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2008/mgp/laguna/graeme/2/_BEE2125.htm

Stoner got some unexpected curling exercises in on Sunday.

[merv]

This one is probably the funniest http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2008/mgp/laguna/graeme/2/_BEE2324.htm

A 'that's just racing' slap on the butt from Rossi probably didn't do much to quell Stoner's ire.

[NinjaBoy]

Stoner tho should have just grinned. And thought silently about pay-back. He didn't and now Rossi knows he's got to him.

Yep... the mind games have begun

[Cleve]

I have enormous respect for both men as racers but lost A LOT of respect for Casey as a man after the race with his comments.


In retrospect I think I may have been a bit hard on the young fella.
He is 21 ffs. What did I say at that age that I now think was plain stupid and dumb...?

[Crasherfromwayback]

This one is probably the funniest http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2008/mgp/laguna/graeme/2/_BEE2324.htm

A 'that's just racing' slap on the butt from Rossi probably didn't do much to quell Stoner's ire.

Yeah...check this though...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080724a.htm

[merv]

Yeah...check this though...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080724a.htm

Yeah cute, he likes to play all the cards ;)

[denill]

Those who have commented that Stoner should just 'harden up' may be interested to read:

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080724a.htm>Rossi said - last April. "I'm also quite unhappy with Elias today because I think he was quite dangerous - more than once he passed me on the inside and then altered his line. This is not a correct way to race." </A> :crybaby: :crybaby:

["D" FZ1]

Was a race and a half! Hats off to the winner!!

Yip. Best race I have watched in ages. Go Rossi.

[skaz]

Those who have commented that Stoner should just 'harden up' may be interested to read:

<a href=http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080724a.htm>Rossi said - last April. "I'm also quite unhappy with Elias today because I think he was quite dangerous - more than once he passed me on the inside and then altered his line. This is not a correct way to race." </A> :crybaby: :crybaby:

I think he was pissed about Elias changing line while stuffing it up the inside, not the actual act of passing itself. Rossi stated in response to Casey's complaints that he never went off line or ran wide while going through.

[NZsarge]

I think he was pissed about Elias changing line while stuffing it up the inside, not the actual act of passing itself. Rossi stated in response to Casey's complaints that he never went off line or ran wide while going through.

:niceone:
....

[orangeback]

Laguna Seca
There is no doubt Stoner is talented but he is still a bit prissy considering his complaints about the passing. Rossi is the only rider in the field with the balls to pull moves like this even when his bike isn't setup perfectly. If Stoner doesn't like being challenged then pull out of racing. Or, balls up and take the fight to Rossi. If Stoner had been competing in WSBK in the 90s he'd have had a lot more to complain about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEJzgv0lzg

[gav]

I think he was pissed about Elias changing line while stuffing it up the inside, not the actual act of passing itself. Rossi stated in response to Casey's complaints that he never went off line or ran wide while going through.
Never went off line or ran wide?
:Oops:
http://www.mcnews.com.au/MotorcycleRacing2008/MotoGP/11_Laguna/Ross_V_Stoner/index.htm

[Timelord]

If there's ever corner where its easy to miss the apex and run off the track, it would have to be a blind entry downhill corner like the corkscrew. Plus the corner before that is blind as well isn't it? He made a small mistake, and by rights probably should have fallen off in the gravel and taken Stoner out then anyway.

Having said that, watching that race I can't help thinking that Rossi is starting the old mind games that he has played with Gibernau and Biaggi.

[skaz]

Never went off line or ran wide?
:Oops:
http://www.mcnews.com.au/MotorcycleRacing2008/MotoGP/11_Laguna/Ross_V_Stoner/index.htm

haha well yea apart from that, but ya got to admit that was rather awesome, almost the opposite to running wide really, lol

[denill]

Doohan commented, <a href=http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Doohan+plays+down+Rossi+Stoner+row>`Don´t be surprised if there are a few more words spoken between Rossi and Stoner if the points gap closes up, and that will keep things interesting off the track. What they said after the race seems normal when you have two guys fighting for the championship.´ </A>

[be not afraid]

needs to be more racing like that. the 5min youtube highlight is wicked.

[pritch]

Well we now have a month to wait until the action is resumed. SBK at Brands Hatch this weekend to keep us amused meantime...