KB KIDS OFFROAD day 16/11/2008

[FROSTY]

KB KIDS BIKE/QUAD RIDE DAY

PLEASE NOTE THE DATE CHANGE

:Punk: SUNDAY 30TH NOVEMBER11.30 am -6pm :Punk:
This is for your KIDS to get a taste of what it's like to ride a Trail bike/Quad in a safe controlled environment

Meet Up at 25 Corban Avenue, Henderson at 11.30am on 30TH nOVEMBER.

IF YOU NEED TO CONTACT ME --0210354615 OR 8375005

Then we head to the "track" which is a big bit of land that’s mostly grass with a really clear dirt track ridden into it. The track has a few corners ,a few humps n bumps and a little hill to keep things fun.
Theres also a "beginners" circle right in the middle for the younger kids to go round and round on - good for the lil chainsaw-powered quads.
It's aimed at novices/less experienced riders from 3-12 years old. I'll also run pillion sessions for the real littlies - VERY SLOW

This is NOT a motocross track.
The kids ride either their own little bikes and quads or I have a few bikes to loan, currently:

three Suzuki 50 quads
three peewee 80 three-gear NO CLUTCH bikes.
one PW50-no gear two stroke
one ty80 4 gear with CLUTCH--same size as a pw80

:clap::clap: ANYONE ABLE TO LOAN 50cc QUADS/BIKES or spare helmets PLEASEplease call me :clap::clap:

HEADS UP FOLKS - PLEASE read the rules n stuff below

please no full on MX bikes I want to keep the speed/noise down
WHILST THE KIDS ARE BUSY WASHING THE BIKES
I'll fire up a barbie and have a hot sausage or two, maybe even a bevvy.

:banana::banana:EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME ALONG FOR A WATCH :banana::banana:


Here's a linkee to a map of where we are:http://www.wises.co.nz/l/Auckland/He...Corban+Avenue/ (http://www.wises.co.nz/l/Auckland/Henderson/Corban+Avenue/)

please confirm you will be attending-HERE http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1690

[FROSTY]

RULES N STUFF.
Sorry to be a pedantic sod but safety is paramount.

1)ALL riders MUST be wearing either gumboots,Motorbike boots or leather boots that cover above the ankle. (basicly something that well covers the lower legs.)


2)If riding ANYTHING anyone must wear a helmet.
I have a few lids and a old HJC lid which will be there to use. For the real littlies I have a couple of bicycle helmets -

3) We need to keep all non riders/marshals a little way away from the actual track whilst the riding is happening.

4) Changing riders will happen only in the pits

5)Dangerous riding wont be allowed.
Its all about having fun so We will just stop the kid concerned and let em know what to do different. if they repeat it we'll stop em again

STUFF YOU SHOULD BRING
1) A change of clothes for you and your kids -it gets prewtty muddy out there

2) Some food and drink for lunch --the nearest food place is 5 minutes drive away.Our sponsor will supply sausages n drinks for the kids later in the day

3) some water for face/hand washing and a towel.

4) IF POSSIBLE- a helmet for your kid /kids

WHAT I NEED
some more 50cc bikes and 50/80cc quads

A Barby-the cooker not the doll

Lightweight wooden/plastic stakes about 1.0m long--HEAPS
More Yellow tape.

HELPERS -on the afternoon before to mark things out .
Helpers on the day to help round the track and in the "pits"
HELPERS AFTERWARDS TO CLEAN THE BIKES /BACK YARD

[Donor]

Will be in for this, come hell or high water. (Mr 6 has already marked it on the calendar)

Can help with the yellow tape and helping in the pits/on the track as per last time (can't clean bikes afterwards though, wife might expect me to do it at home!)

See you folks there!

[FROSTY]

Hey folks --If some DEFINITE helpers could put hands up it would be great.
ESPECIALLY for the cleanup afterwards.

[Donor]

Just a wee bumping nudge...

...almost a sticky-worthy thread this *cough*

[FROSTY]

SORRY FOLKS iVE DONE MY BEST TO GET ENOUGH BIKES --i ONLY HAVE 3 80'S.a pw50 AND 2 QUADS.
tHIS EVENT IS postponed to 30/11/2008

[FROSTY]

Can we please have a show of hands who wants to come along and who is able to give me a hand.
Jobs I need to do are
1)corners marked out/pits area clearly marked.
2)marshalls for the day -total of about 4
3)spanner man--for filling bikes n stuff
4)barby tender
5)help getting kids on and off the bikes --ie keeping the mayhem to a minimum

[Qkchk]

Now that the date has changed and its on a Sunday (yay!) myself and Qkkid should be along to give a hand....

[Qkchk]

BTW, What time were you looking at starting the mayhem?

[FROSTY]

gwan you mean ya dont know what time to crawl outa bed --:devil2:

[Qkchk]

gwan you mean ya dont know what time to crawl outa bed --:devil2:

Being a freshly married man, you should know what time...... ;)

[FROSTY]

Could peeople attending please put yer name on the event listing --

[FROSTY]

um folks --to make this go off like the last one I desperately need more lil quads n 50cc trailbikes -can anybody help

[FROSTY]

so whose keen for ths one ???

[geoffm]

My boy should be in for this - missed the last one. Can't help with supplying gear or bikes tho.

EDIT: Buggerit - same day as the Santa Parade, which I am committed to.
Anyone going to it, look out for the 6Yo spaceman...

[FROSTY]

s ok dude--it doesn't start till 11.30 and this time itll be going to at least 4.30 before we stop for a drinkees

[Mully]

Frosty, I've got a waterblaster and 40 meters of hose sitting round if it's any use to you for cleanup.

I'll try to get there, but got lots of prep for a certain big day to do.

Cheers,
Mully

[Kiwi Graham]

Mr 3 will be keen, can't get there until about 2pm though. Happy to drive the BBQ and help clean up.

[FROSTY]

all good --more the merrier

[Sparrowhawk]

Yeah, I'm in with my 6 year old. Happy to help in the pits or as a marshal, or doing the filling up with gas thing. Just lemme know what you want me to do.


Will be in for this, come hell or high water. (Mr 6 has already marked it on the calendar)

Can help with the yellow tape and helping in the pits/on the track as per last time (can't clean bikes afterwards though, wife might expect me to do it at home!)

See you folks there!

Donor, you gonna ride out or take the cage? My thought is the girls could take 1 cage between them, with the kids, and we could meet them there.
:doh: Rach will want to ride out too now she's got her 6L. Hmmm. Is Mrs Donor going? :whistle:

[FROSTY]

Just a reminder this is now on 30th Nov

[Sharry]

I would like to pop along and be usefull. Cant bring any kids or bikes though.

[FROSTY]

No worries sharry--the more marshalls/helpers the smoother it runs

[dwnundabkr]

Frosty
i have a 50cc quad and three girls who are keen will bring along for the day and can help with ever is required,
i dont have any small helmets but will bring some bike lids
the bike is a little old but still goes well
pm me if this not suitable
Dave

[FROSTY]

no mate all good--iVE JUST GONE OUT AND FLATENNED OUT THE LITTLIES TRACK--A CIRCLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAIN TRACK
ITS GONNA BE GREAT

[Gazzar]

Hi mate just got back from job in Raglan and have to go back in 2 to 3 days but will try to get back for the kidds day if i can make it i will have 2 70cc quads and helmets and a marshalls quad and maybe my mates quad from last time u had kidds day.Not sure at this stage how many kids but let you know closer to time.:woohoo::cool:

[FROSTY]

Gazza --all good mate Itrs just the setup that worries me. For my guys they know where to go and where not to go but for the new kids I wanna put tapes n stuff up. -TYhe grounds er a "tadd" harder than before

[MillarsCarCentre]

We will supply drinks and some food for the after match thingee.
all welcolm

[LittleJohn]

Sorry can't make this one as are racing.

[FROSTY]

woohoo=at this stage Ill get to ride all day

[FROSTY]

woohoo--now I have 4 LT50's ready to rumble

[Sparrowhawk]

woohoo--now I have 4 LT50's ready to rumble

Heya Frosty, just wanted to confirm this is still on for tomorrow. My 6yo really looking forward to it :Punk:

[FROSTY]

Yep its all on today.--went down yesterday to clear the last of the prickly bits away --Im just off to see if i can hammer stakes in the ground--its a fair bit harder than last time :bash:

[ManDownUnder]

Bring a few sun umbrellas - Forecast is for a warm one today and sunburn will be an issue...

[dwnundabkr]

frosty i will be there about 10ish to help setup and i am bringing my trailer to assist will cartage for the other quads see you soon

[Blossom]

Wish we could make it but we have another commitment we have to go to.
Hope you guys have a great day.

[grantman]

Hi Frosty
Great Day

My son & I had a great time
Shattered now !


Cheers
Grant

[ManDownUnder]

Yeha FROSTY. Now the sugar's worn off Ruben's a very tired, happy little camper.

Who else got photos - I'm keen to see a few more.

[uksteve]

A great day for the kids and well organised.
Here's a couple of photo's.

[FROSTY]

Im really glad all the littlies had a good time. I was really quite worried that there would be carnage with the track beeing so much harder and easier to ride.
The miles of smiles from all the kids really said it alll

[Mystic13]

My son said it was awesome. He wanted to go riding again last night.

Thanks for organising the day Frosty and to all the people that helped out. I've never kick started so many bikes in such a short period of time.

Here are some more photo's. Now if you see any of you that you'd rather anyone else didn't see just PM me and I'll take it out.

Cheers

http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLanding.action?c=mo5ab5l.18rgjyrl&x=0&y=ax6scr&localeid=en_US

[Kiwi Graham]

Had an awsome day mr 3 and miss 2 went to sleep with huge smiles on there faces, well done frosty. Will load a few photos when I'm at home.

[Donor]

My son said it was awesome. He wanted to go riding again last night.

Thanks for organising the day Frosty and to all the people that helped out. I've never kick started so many bikes in such a short period of time.

Here are some more photo's. Now if you see any of you that you'd rather anyone else didn't see just PM me and I'll take it out.

Cheers

http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLanding.action?c=mo5ab5l.18rgjyrl&x=0&y=ax6scr&localeid=en_US

Nice photo job mate - pity your faulty camera kept adding all those pounds to my actually quite trim frame *coughBULLSHITcough*

[dwnundabkr]

awesome photos mystic,
great day frosty well done:niceone::2thumbsup
carnage was very low considering there was kids everywhere,:chase::chase:
the look on the kids faces said it all:woohoo::woohoo::yes::yes::D:D
i was absolutely shattered by the time i got home:sleep:

[Tank]

Awesome day - Thanks to all who all who arranged and helped out!

Thanks for the pics also - not too shabby - Big Dave will be worried.

[Gman71]

Thanks everyone, and especially you Frosty

another great day, I had to leave early for another commitment so sorry I couldn't be there to heklp pack up. Certainly fely my flag waving skills imporved during the day....

My little guy Ethan is once again talking non-stop about it, and the pressure for abike is on.....

[oldguy]

Cheers Frosty. look's like a great day had by all.

The kids look like they were enjoying it, few little off's at the start, but once they got a handle on it, there was no stopping them.

Sorry couldnt stay and help out, my tooth was giving me hell,

your young fella was enjoying the 125:clap:

[FROSTY]

OLDGUY --mate I fucken hate you- If my boy coulda slept with that DRZ he bloody would have :whistle:
He said to me real quiet like--er does that guy really have to take the bike back??
Seriously mate I must say I was so proud of him --he handled the bike so well and was mostly riding conciderately through the slower kids
For the record --he's never ridden anything bigger than a peewee 80 before that

[OutForADuck]

Frosty, bloody fastastic day.. congrats to all that were helping out. Our boy was smiles for africa (not to mention the missus after a ride herself, thanks for that one Frosty).

By the time we managed to pull the plug on him last night his face was permanently fixed into a smile and he was suggesting that being adopted by Frosty would very cool :rockon:

Bloody fantastic.

I think we now have a "Peewee bike" fund going :yes:

[OutForADuck]

guys, here are the photo's we took for the day.. obviously a lot of our boy and his mother :msn-wink: but you may also find your loved ones.

More Pictures (http://gregabbiss.spaces.live.com/photos/cns!D057000F200B6BAD!287/?startingImageIndex=2&commentsExpand=0&addCommentExpand=0&addCommentFocus=0&pauseSlideshow=0)

[FROSTY]

Hey folks Please pat YOURSELVES on the back for this one.
A non KBer turned up early with his lad and helped me mark out the track.
A whole bunch of you lot took orders from little hitler without question so the day flowed smoothly. :headbang:
The little books got made up for us by Grantman at NO CHARGE (bloody Hero)
Littleman and white belt did cook duty
Someone was head mechanic for the day
a bunch of others did flag duty and kid recovery -some of you diddnt have kids of ya own
So it once again was all of YOU that made it happen
Thank you all

[Sharry]

Asolutely fab day had by all.
It was so cool to se all those smily wee faces having a great time:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup .

I take my hat of to you great mums and dads that stood out in the sun all day then went home to bath and pop to bed your grinning kiddlings. :first:

I only had myself to look after and went to bed at 8.30pm for an 11 hour sleep.
Thanks to Frosty for organising the day, Jorja for slaving away behind the scenes and feeding everyone afterwards.

[Kiwi Graham]

Did anyone pick up a black camera bag? (it had everything in, camcorder, camera, memory sticks, spare battery's the fukin lot :bash:) My wife thinks she left it on the side of the road where she parked, at the bottom of the street opposite Frosty's place by the area the track was on.
Or is it at your place Frosty?

This will be the third time she's fukin buggered a camera, cant claim again!!!!

[Sparrowhawk]

By the time we managed to pull the plug on him last night his face was permanently fixed into a smile and he was suggesting that being adopted by Frosty would very cool :rockon:


Your young fulla was doing real well mate. We were marshalling up at one of the overtaking areas, and watched him get faster, and faster, and faster, always with a huge grin. Then he switched to 2 wheels. We were counting laps until he binned it, but he stayed on, and did real well.

Frosty, thanks again for the great day, and doing those laps with my one on the back. After his :Oops: at the start of the day, he didn't want to get back on. After he went with you, he was out there!!

Lots of effort went into the day, frosty you're a bloody legend

[FROSTY]

,Camera bag, camcorder, camera, memory sticks, spare battery's it had everything inthe fukin lot :bash:)

Ohh yea folks -- FOR SALE TO DEFRAY COSTS
Camcorder in its bag. Part used memory sticks and spare batteries
Goes to the highest bidder---ANY TAKERS??


In other words yea mate its on my dining room table

[Kiwi Graham]

Bloody ek, thanks mate :2thumbsup. will call round tomorrow and pick it up. The Mrs still has to make it up big time though :hug:

[oldguy]

OLDGUY --mate I fucken hate you- If my boy coulda slept with that DRZ he bloody would have :whistle:
He said to me real quiet like--er does that guy really have to take the bike back??


Hey no worries, I wont get out you way till saturday afternoon, so he more than welcome to use it,

[dwnundabkr]

Hey no worries, I wont get out you way till saturday afternoon, so he more than welcome to use it,

hey old guy got to meet you on Sunday did not realize you where another bull rider should catch up for a bull ride soon
from another old guy

[uksteve]

dwnundabkr how about you and old guy going for a ride with a young guy on a Gixxer:lol:

[dwnundabkr]

yep its about time we went for a fang steve
pretty much booked this weekend but if thursday nite is fine, come and do nite ride, following weekend up the beach so see if i can book sunday 21st may be do coro loop or 16 will pm ya when closer to date

[dwnundabkr]

BACK on topic
i have added a video of the day only a short one
there will be another one posted soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBAuwXCBHjc

[FROSTY]

that vid is bloody so cool.
It really captures the feeling of the event

[Sparrowhawk]

Nice photo job mate - pity your faulty camera kept adding all those pounds to my actually quite trim frame *coughBULLSHITcough*

TUI AD!! :lol: :laugh: :rofl: :killingme

uh oh, I hear MyBike starting. Running away!! :shit:

Mate, there's a few good shots of mini-donor there.

[Mystic13]

BACK on topic
i have added a video of the day only a short one
there will be another one posted soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBAuwXCBHjc

Those vid's are damned cool. Did you do any before they straightened the track?

[gijoe1313]

My gosh, what an awesome experience that was ... I turned up with zeocen with some motorcycle tie-downs I had borrowed from FROSTY oh so long ago!

Stood on the back corner with Donor and Sparrowhawk and blardy oath! The smiles and grins on the kids you could feel them beaming through their lids! :D

I guess I was a bit of a distraction, red camo ninja in the long grass at the corner! :o Was great to see them ripping it up.

When I was allowed to go play on a dirtbike (first time ever!) man, was I in for a revelation. Aimed for the worse bumps, lousy lines and it still went over them not a prob!

Very very cool fun! End of the day with bbq going and manning the snarler station, the kids were poked out ... you know they had an awesome day when they can only barely pick up a drink, flop down and eat it all quietly! :yes:

Well done to all you guys! I only turned up to drop off some tie-downs and next I'm standing on a corner helping out and then ripping it up with the little 'uns! :lol:

[FROSTY]

Just keep saying it to yaself JOE--Im a BIG kid now Im a BIG kid now.
Please of course forget the antics of the kid on the green kdx late in the day deliberately roosting the guys on a certailn corner :2thumbsup

[Jorja]

Hey no worries, I wont get out you way till saturday afternoon, so he more than welcome to use it,

Shit don't tell him that!!!! he was so excited he took a photo of it to take to school.

Woke up the next day and he had wheeled it away from the other bikes out of sight. I am sure he figured we would just forget it was there.:whistle:

[dwnundabkr]

Hi All
here is the second vid, this is from the first session in the begining of the day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOSXkAy4pM8

[FROSTY]

Hey folks can I ask your opinions here.
For the Next kids day do you think I should have some more easy/flat corners put in ?
do you think that a couple more of the overtaking bays should be used?
as an alternative I wonder if I should have 2 distinct groups doing 10 minutes each--the faster kids and the slower kids.

[OutForADuck]

I think the track was perfect for purpose, a bit of variety but nowhere letting the kids get too fast. Tighter bumpy corners are fun for them whilst keeping a lid on it.

The passing lanes were a great idea but not always manned or operated correctly so I would just say maybe a better marshalling setup for those.

The one at the top that, I think Donor?, was marshalling was working well with two marshalls co-ordinating.

My two cents. It was pretty much perfect for most of the kids there.

[FROSTY]

I think You are right. Ill organise the 2 other passing bays better for next time --The one on the top right corner could have worked really well. and with 2 marshalls the one up to the top of the hill would have been great

[dwnundabkr]

frosty i would like to say mate it was all good, i didn't hear one kid moaning he/she was in my way, only concern for me was the start, bikes and kids everywhere lol, could have been a lot worse but we worked through it,
thought line kids up separate from ridin before, not ridin before, assign a bike start them on their way one at a time, the mass start at the beginning was hard.

[FROSTY]

The start had me a bit worried too--JUst like a KB trackday really---everyone chomping at the bit to get on track--a lil bit of carnage but then they all relaxed.
The funniest thing (IN HINDSITE) was the lil fella on a quad Conversation went- Frosty--"have you ridden before " Lil Kid "hes yes LOTS" Frosty--"ok well then just take it quietly and heat down the track then"
Lil fella jambed the throttle on and proceded -(on a straight bit of track) to get totally out of control and dissapear into the 4 foor high grass
Nothing was seen of hm for a minute or two then there came a wail "I'm, I'M STUCK"

[Kiwi Graham]

Some more pics of an awsome day.
I thought the day ran just great Frosty, the faster kids were respectful of the slower kids and I even saw some of the slower kids doing a quick rear glance every so often.....bloody brilliant.

[FROSTY]

I didn't hear one kid moaning he/she was in my way,
Yea I gotta say some of the ADULT track dayers really need to learn a lesson from that :rolleyes:

[grantman]

Hi Frosty
All went very well I thought

Passing lanes could be only real improvement but not a big thing really

Getting them to have a 10 min break might be an idea at some point
because they wont stop for a drink of water/rest unless you bring out the checkered flag!

My son loved the track
He said it wasnt to easy or too hard
He said he would like a small jump next time
(not sure about that ...might have to be in a expert passing lane so a marshall can decide if rider is good enough)

Could also be recipe for disaster! :doctor:

Just some ideas

Cheers
Grant

[Mystic13]

Same as above more or less.

- The layout of the track slowed some of the quicker kids. There were some that didn't need slowing but there seemed to be a bunch of kids that were riding beyond themselves and the narrower parts got them slowed. So that worked well.

- A more organised line of kids at the start instead of the see who gets a helmet first although they all made it away.

- The allocating of the rides got sorted later in the day with a cue formed. But some kids had seemed to have never ending runs while others seemed more parked up. Having said that they all got decent turns out there.

- Agree with shorter session times if it's a hot sunny day not just for the kids to water up but the adults standing out there eating dust to get a break.

- I thought the first track layout was good. I left just as you set the second one up.

- I would like to see a tidier pit setup. It seemed that people were parked all over the place getting in the way of bikes coming in. The reverse layout was worse for that.

- It would have been great if the learner section didn't cross the main track and the learner area was visible to the pit area where most adults congregated would be good. It's funny they weren't far away but seemed to completely dissappear.

- Try and source at least one bigger sized helmet. There was a kid who couldn't get his head into any of the helmets and we managed to borrow a flash road one for him. Without that generous offer the kid would have gone nowhere.

All in all I thought it went really well and the organised chaos at times also worked.

[FROSTY]

Same as above more or less.

- The layout of the track slowed some of the quicker kids. There were some that didn't need slowing but there seemed to be a bunch of kids that were riding beyond themselves and the narrower parts got them slowed. So that worked well.
It was deliberate -I diddnt want the kids going too fast its really for the slower kids --Unless we have a fast group then a slow group

- A more organised line of kids at the start instead of the see who gets a helmet first although they all made it away.
Couldn't agree more--I need someone to do this job

- The allocating of the rides got sorted later in the day with a cue formed. But some kids had seemed to have never ending runs while others seemed more parked up. Having said that they all got decent turns out there.
I agree again -A person lining the kids up or perhaps giving them numbers for each session ?

- Agree with shorter session times if it's a hot sunny day not just for the kids to water up but the adults standing out there eating dust to get a break.
That could work-only concern is the chaos in and out being intensified.

- I thought the first track layout was good. I left just as you set the second one up.
The reverse setup needed changing and there were entering the pits issues I need to work out

- I would like to see a tidier pit setup. It seemed that people were parked all over the place getting in the way of bikes coming in. The reverse layout was worse for that.
Yep I totally agree with that -I need help early in the AM to set up the pits so theres better flow

- It would have been great if the learner section didn't cross the main track and the learner area was visible to the pit area where most adults congregated would be good. It's funny they weren't far away but seemed to completely dissappear.
Sorry man NOTHING I can do about that one. the learner area is in the only safe place it can be. The track crossing is DEFINITELY an area that concerned me -I think for next time it will be marked with tape and the person on the corner before it will be better informed as to how things work.

- Try and source at least one bigger sized helmet. There was a kid who couldn't get his head into any of the helmets and we managed to borrow a flash road one for him. Without that generous offer the kid would have gone nowhere.
Sorry dude that was my fuck up--I had 1 big fullface sitting in my gargre-I forgot to grab it with the other ones

All in all I thought it went really well and the organised chaos at times also worked.

IN A NUTSHELL FOLKS I think this is a good thing we are doing

[FROSTY]

HEY FOLKS
The next day is going to be in about 3-4 months.
I'm now holding out my begging hat. :innocent:
Could I please have more DANGER tape and heaps more stakes --either wooden or plastic tube.
The better the track is marked out the safer its gonna be

[uksteve]

Hey Frosty, my daughter really enjoyed it. She was the one on the DRZ110,she keeps asking when the next one is and if the track can be used for practice. If not do you know if there is anywhere to ride beside the sandpit at woodhill?

Cheers

[grantman]

Hi Mystic13

I did bring along my adult motocross helmet (Red/white/Blue)
so there should have been one to fit him

Maybe someone else was using it
but we can bring more next time

Cheers
Grant

[Mystic13]

He got a loan of a Zeus with the pop down top gun tinted shield. I think he was pretty happy about that.

UKSteve, if you find other areas to ride let me know. I was talking to a guy who takes his kids out. They shoot up to Muriwai, then down the road just past the golf course and you can drive out onto the beach, which he does. He parks on the other side of the stream, unloads the bikes and he says you can see an opening in the sand dunes that bikes ride through. Ride up in there and you end up being able to ride up through the forest. Apparently a few bikes ride there.

I was going to take a little time off work and shoot in there for a look around with the view to taking my kids there.

PM me if you find some other places.

Cheers.

[FROSTY]

just a heads up folks
I'll be at Managawhai on boxing day and new years day riding with my kids. Anybody with their own bike is welcolm to join us.
-I've started a thread on the subject