Hornet / Streetfighter / gauges / ect ect Help needed

[NOMIS]

Ok, Well as some are aware I have made a few mods to how my bike looks,

2001 Honda 250 hornet, please see my pics in "my album" in profile to get a idea of what im talking about.

1, im not happy with the way my headlight sit's. k7 lgixxer light.
What gets in the way is the ignition barel and the gauges, eg to move it back further it hits the ignition barel and to move it up hits the gauges.
I have already shortened the entire wiring loom about 35-40 cm th get the head light to sit where it does. This was 6 hours of steady soldering.


2, I want to fit a digital set of gauges but am wondering how can I do this with the analouge speedo? it there some sort of sensor that runs off the gear box?, or what that I can use to read from the cable to digital? this beats me.

And also I have seen on other street fighter bike on the web , they dont even have a ignition barrel ??? I know I can get a elecric starter ect but how can i do this and keep my bike secure?

Any way enough questions for now . Any advice will be appreciated.

And dont leave the "its only a 250 why bother" comments beacause my answer is "is it your bike? are you riding it?"

[bungbung]

I've seen aftermarket speedo pickups from the rear wheel using a magnet, like on a push bike.

What about relocating the ign. barrel to a hidden location under the tank?

[NOMIS]

I've seen aftermarket speedo pickups from the rear wheel using a magnet, like on a push bike.

What about relocating the ign. barrel to a hidden location under the tank?

hmm yeh but with the stering lock ect I can see how it would work ? And yeh i have seen thoes to I guess I could run one and then Find something to block the gear box off?

[nodrog]

ask these (http://www.nzstreetfighters.com/) guys, they will have the answers you seek, and they are good buggers.

[vifferman]

If your speedo doesn't have a thick cable like a clutch cable screwed into the back of it, then it's electronic. If it is electronic, then whether it'll work with a non-Hornet speedo depends on the signal output from the sensor (normally located in the countershaft sprocket cover by your left ankle. To check that out, you'd need to run an oscilliscope or summat to measure it. It doesn't matter about calibration - you can buy a speedo correction kit from Jaycar for a few shekel dollars and get it accurate. If you spent 6 hours soldering up wires, then the kit will be a portion of wees.
However (but!) if you're going for some aftermarket electronic gauges, they usually have either their own sender that comes with it, or provision to adjust the signal from the existing one, so depending on what you buy/fit, you should be OK.

Some research is needed here. Remember - the Interdweeb is your friend.

[NOMIS]

If your speedo doesn't have a thick cable like a

Some research is needed here. Remember - the Interdweeb is your friend.

So far with this issue the interweb has been a pain in the arse with contridicting information haha thanks for the help mate.

[NOMIS]

ask these (http://www.nzstreetfighters.com/) guys, they will have the answers you seek, and they are good buggers.

HA!!!! most of them asked why im doing it to a 250, was on there when I 1st got my bike . But yeh Ill give it another go, Also I cant upload pics on there for them to help out, I don't no why it doesnt work.

[vifferman]

HA!!!! most of them asked why im doing it to a 250, was on there when I 1st got my bike .
Hey, that's OK. It may be overcapitalising the 250, but it's your bike, and there's nothing wrong with customising it to your tastes. :niceone:

[NOMIS]

Hey, that's OK. It may be overcapitalising the 250, but it's your bike, and there's nothing wrong with customising it to your tastes. :niceone:

Yeh exactly the way I see it. Im stuck on the bloody thing So why not huh? Other wise i would have a biger more "fun" bike.

Thanks everyone for the help so far

[NOMIS]

Oh Also it is definatly cable driven speedo. And it runs from the back of the gauge through to the gearbox.

[The Pastor]

Can you post a picture of ur current bike?

[vifferman]

Oh Also it is definatly cable driven speedo. And it runs from the back of the gauge through to the gearbox.
Right - then you either need one that uses a sensor to detect a small magnet glued to the wheel or whatever, or you may be able to adapt a speedo sensor off another Honda (bound to be one that would work - lotsa Honda parts are interchangeable). Basically, it uses a small TDK signal producer with a nylon drive that fits loosely on the countershaft sprocket bolt. You should be able to adapt one to fit on the end of your cable instead.

[NOMIS]

Can you post a picture of ur current bike?

In my profile , im "my bike" album I can repost the same pictures for somereason, I will take another when I get home tonight and post it up.

[NOMIS]

a shameless bump .. more people on now

[Squiggles]

In regards to the headlight position, you'll probably find the only way around this is to move the ignition, you could try find another that is smaller and will allow you to use the steering lock, but i very much doubt this... best move might be to move the ignition (use plugs, make your own bit of wiring loom, rather than hacking the original), and fit some sort of lock you can use for the steering, perhaps a trailbike one.

For the speedo, make it simple and mount a digital one with a front/rear wheel pickup

[toebug]

1, im not happy with the way my headlight sit's. k7 lgixxer light.
What gets in the way is the ignition barel and the gauges, eg to move it back further it hits the ignition barel and to move it up hits the gauges.
I have already shortened the entire wiring loom about 35-40 cm th get the head light to sit where it does. This was 6 hours of steady soldering.


2, I want to fit a digital set of gauges but am wondering how can I do this with the analouge speedo? it there some sort of sensor that runs off the gear box?, or what that I can use to read from the cable to digital? this beats me.

And also I have seen on other street fighter bike on the web , they dont even have a ignition barrel ??? I know I can get a elecric starter ect but how can i do this and keep my bike secure?

Any way enough questions for now . Any advice will be appreciated.



Digital speedos cost $250 - $500, they run off magnets that stick in your front disc and the speedo can mount to your bars. RPM, oil, fuel, temp etc is easily wired in too. Look up toebug on trademe, I sell the Koso range of speedos, only one listed currently but will give you an idea.

If you remove your barrel you will lose your steering lock, but who needs it anyway, 2 of my fighters dont have it. You can make your bike remote start therefore removing the ignition completly, the bonus of this is the remote start is part of an alarm system, you can also add a disc lock for more protection and a hidden cut off switch.

You can also get longer headlight brackets if need be to clear your gauges.


HA!!!! most of them asked why im doing it to a 250,

Ah Bullshit, we try to be helpful, I also re-read your post to check!!! Some of us even have 250's!:angry:


Also I cant upload pics on there for them to help out, I don't no why it doesnt work.

Your pics need to be downsized to 400x300 pixels, then they will load easily.

[NOMIS]

Digital speedos cost $250 - $500, they run off magnets that stick in your front disc and the speedo can mount to your bars. RPM, oil, fuel, temp etc is easily wired in too. Look up toebug on trademe, I sell the Koso range of speedos, only one listed currently but will give you an idea.

If you remove your barrel you will lose your steering lock, but who needs it anyway, 2 of my fighters dont have it. You can make your bike remote start therefore removing the ignition completly, the bonus of this is the remote start is part of an alarm system, you can also add a disc lock for more protection and a hidden cut off switch.

You can also get longer headlight brackets if need be to clear your gauges.



Your pics need to be downsized to 400x300 pixels, then they will load easily.

Chur thanks allot, Ill search your thing on trade me now. Maybe it was on here guys where giving me shit.?? was about 9 months ago so forgive me if im wrong.

I'm doing everything pretty slowly as I don't roll in $$$ at the moment lol insurance and all that. But thanks alot for your help toe bug.
Also what do I do with the cabel into gear box I know chuck it thats obvious but what can i use to fill the hole that don't look to rude?

Nice bike btw

[toebug]

I also see you are in Auckland, so you could always stop in at Red Baron and see Nick, he will be out front selling bikes and he is an NZStreetfighter club member.

[NOMIS]

I also see you are in Auckland, so you could always stop in at Red Baron and see Nick, he will be out front selling bikes and he is an NZStreetfighter club member.

Hey yeh I think I may have met him while looking at a cbr600 and r6 . Bald guy glasses?? And I found your member listing but I can find the gauges..?

[NOMIS]

Toebug - I found it cheers for some reason wasnt showin on your listings but came up on a search weird

[Kornholio]

I also see you are in Auckland, so you could always stop in at Red Baron and see Nick, he will be out front selling bikes and he is an NZStreetfighter club member.

The bastards are everywhere goddamit :Pokey:

[toebug]

Check trademe again, I've only actually just relisted the gauges.

Yeah Nick is the bald guy with glasses.

You could most likely find a rubber bung that will fit your old cable hole.

Modifiying bikes is always slow work as none of us roll in the cash, and they are NEVER finished, and dont worry about overcapitalising all modded bikes cost but its up to you how far you go. Hell the camo katana owes me at least $12k and its a 23 year old bike with 140k on the clock!

But the things you do to look cool!:2thumbsup I am afterall from the land of the posuers!:cool:

[toebug]

The bastards are everywhere goddamit :Pokey:

:Oi:Time you got your knicker off too isnt it?

[NOMIS]

Check trademe again, I've only actually just relisted the gauges.

Yeah Nick is the bald guy with glasses.

You could most likely find a rubber bung that will fit your old cable hole.

Modifiying bikes is always slow work as none of us roll in the cash, and they are NEVER finished, and dont worry about overcapitalising all modded bikes cost but its up to you how far you go. Hell the camo katana owes me at least $12k and its a 23 year old bike with 140k on the clock!

But the things you do to look cool!:2thumbsup I am afterall from the land of the posuers!:cool:


Thats for sure especially hard when you use it as a comuter aswell. lol.
I got some sliders , and some renthal ultra lows to fit, also going to re spray calipers this weekend. Then Ill get around to doing that light. Ive been on the koso website and I love the rx1?? Only thing is it only goes to 15000rpm lol I need one that goes to 18000 haha I like that style, better start saving.

[toebug]

Only thing is it only goes to 15000rpm lol I need one that goes to 18000 haha I like that style, better start saving.

Dont worry too much about where the rpm runs out too much, I have a trailtech vapour on my gsxr750 and it only goes to 12,000 but I can set the shift lights to tell me I'm in the power. I have one of the koso's in my listings to put on my camo kat, it only goes to 15,000 as well. but its nice and simple and only the size of a cellphone. I have a Koso db1 on my fireblade, the rpm on that is numerical, therefore reads true all the way to the top. So you have lots of options available.

So like you said start saving!!

[lemining]

hey, i was changing my speedo/tacho in my bike (suzuki bandit), i was getting annoyed with analog guages. I got Vapor from trail tech. There is one guy that sells them in nz. Xtreme Motorcycle or something along those lines his cell 021396086. (it was a while ago so i duno if he still sells them).

Vapor (http://trailtech.net/vapor.html)

I got mine with dash lights etc. So i had that with fly screen i got in hong kong. It looked mean. it comes with good instruction and manual, it is easy to install.
I did it over the weekend (afternoons) with box of beer and it was gr8 fun. One note, i had issues with my tacho for a while, and i had to get special cable send from usa. I got it all for free tho, it just took extra time.

[NOMIS]

hey, i was changing my speedo/tacho in my bike (suzuki bandit), i was getting annoyed with analog guages. I got Vapor from trail tech. There is one guy that sells them in nz. Xtreme Motorcycle or something along those lines his cell 021396086. (it was a while ago so i duno if he still sells them).

Vapor (http://trailtech.net/vapor.html)

I got mine with dash lights etc. So i had that with fly screen i got in hong kong. It looked mean. it comes with good instruction and manual, it is easy to install.
I did it over the weekend (afternoons) with box of beer and it was gr8 fun. One note, i had issues with my tacho for a while, and i had to get special cable send from usa. I got it all for free tho, it just took extra time.

Hey man , Can you post a picture of what it looks like? Another thing I was hoping to get one that will have the higher rev range, My origional goes to 18,000rpm.

[lemining]

Ummm... i have made a video on you tube rite after i installed it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=widIzqgnvU8

There are two rev counter displays. one is the one on top and it goes only to 12 rpm. (u can also setup lights) so when u get to 15 or something yellow lights comes on and if u reach 18 then red ones comes on), also u can switch the screen so it shows ur speed and rev (as you can see on my video, the rev counter shows 1500+ revs), otherwise it shows just the speed and current time. Check out other youtube videos to get an idea.

This video is before i got my fighter looking fly screen ;)

NOTE: On the video rev counter still didnt work right. It was jumping quite a bit.

[Morcs]

Theres a blue KOSO speedo unit which is awesome. cycletreads sell them for about $200. they have heaps of features, easy to install and damn they look good.

I had one on my cbr streetfighter.

Heres the only pic I have of it, its not very good but gives an idea of size, and how you wont have to worry too much about mounting options.
glows up like blue dogs balls at night.

[NOMIS]

Theres a blue KOSO speedo unit which is awesome. cycletreads sell them for about $200. they have heaps of features, easy to install and damn they look good.

I had one on my cbr streetfighter.

Heres the only pic I have of it, its not very good but gives an idea of size, and how you wont have to worry too much about mounting options.
glows up like blue dogs balls at night.

Yeh i have been thinking something similar like a small speedo and then another tacho, 2 seperate items. see how we go when i gopt the cash.

Thanks for the idea

[Macstar]

Theres a blue KOSO speedo unit which is awesome. cycletreads sell them for about $200. they have heaps of features, easy to install and damn they look good.

I had one on my cbr streetfighter.

Heres the only pic I have of it, its not very good but gives an idea of size, and how you wont have to worry too much about mounting options.
glows up like blue dogs balls at night.

Yeah man. I had one too:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=77529&d=1195769970

$140 from Cycletreads

The max speed and 0-100kph features were cool too.

[fireball]

dont know if its been said and i cant be bothered reading the whole thread sorry but PM placid femme she is in the process of doing her ZZR into a street fighter she may possibly be able to help you out check out her thread it may also give you some ideas.

[NOMIS]

dont know if its been said and i cant be bothered reading the whole thread sorry but PM placid femme she is in the process of doing her ZZR into a street fighter she may possibly be able to help you out check out her thread it may also give you some ideas.

Have you got the link?

[fireball]

Have you got the link?

here you go....

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=75864

[slydesigns]

Check out the KOSO streetfighter digital dash, its made for fitting to project bikes, whether ECU run or older carb CDI bikes. Has a digi display and an analogue Tacho, LED backlighting and all the usual functions: oil pressure, odo, trip, neutral, turn sigs, shift light etc.

[exretailer]

Hi,
Just scanning KB forums and see you were after a electronic speedo to replace the cable driven unit, PM me as I have the Trail Tech Vapors available, let me know your model and we will get you sorted, these run a none contact sensor and have a tacho, temp and a host of other featurs. Although they are predominatly for dirtbikes I have sold a heap for road machines of single, twin and multi cylinder. I also have the dash assemblys in stock as well. Prices are very sharp as well.

Thanks

[nico]

in regards to digital speedo use a vapor or a vepor unit the vapor im prety sure you can get a hornet plug thal work of toyr curent speedo system the vepor (witch i have on the vfr) uses a magnet type system of the front wheel so far blody good unit small as and not a bad price found it on tardme , thers a pic in my profile

[nico]

i shoulda read all replys this guy's units are good can voutch for the exerlent service aswell ..:scooter:


Hi,
Just scanning KB forums and see you were after a electronic speedo to replace the cable driven unit, PM me as I have the Trail Tech Vapors available, let me know your model and we will get you sorted, these run a none contact sensor and have a tacho, temp and a host of other featurs. Although they are predominatly for dirtbikes I have sold a heap for road machines of single, twin and multi cylinder. I also have the dash assemblys in stock as well. Prices are very sharp as well.

Thanks