What a buy this is

[igor]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Tourers/auction-164852867.htm

Suzuki quality at its best http://www.suzuki.co.nz/motorcycles/motorcycles.html I went to this page and sent them an email with the link 2 ad saying what a great product they have.

[Unit]

Poor bastard. Warned my son off these a few months back, glad I did. :Pokey:

[CB ARGH]

Holy cow that's INSANE!! :2thumbsup

[mark247]

That's pretty crazy. I'm sure that would come under the consumer guarantees act or something???

[Ryan432]

I rode my trusty GN all they way around the South Island, including about 1200km worth of gravel and offroad conditions, and it was fine, I just took care of it properly, I think you will find that many of the people that say "oh i did'nt do anytihng to it and it just fell apart" don't really care for their bikes, a good wash and wax once in a while makes a huge difference to the appearance of your bike in a year! Also my GN was a 2007 chinese one so that makes no difference, a little bit of love and attention goes a long way, in all aspects of life!
:rockon:

[igor]

I rode my trusty GN all they way around the South Island, including about 1200km worth of gravel and offroad conditions, and it was fine, I just took care of it properly, I think you will find that many of the people that say "oh i did'nt do anytihng to it and it just fell apart" don't really care for their bikes, a good wash and wax once in a while makes a huge difference to the appearance of your bike in a year! Also my GN was a 2007 chinese one so that makes no difference, a little bit of love and attention goes a long way, in all aspects of life!
:rockon:


wake up. I got a 15 year old BMW and it is fine. I don't wash it I ride it

[FruitLooPs]

haha I reckon, man thats random. Bikes don't need wax to prevent corrosion .. or at least they didn't..

My '87 gsxr750 hasn't a speck of rust on it. I've looked, and thats just a home painted kept in a garden shed in invercargill knock about. My RG150 from 98 has some signs, and a bit of pitty/corroding on the fork tubes high up in the triples

Looks like i'll stick with the older ones. :gob:

[Ryan432]

wake up. I got a 15 year old BMW and it is fine. I don't wash it I ride it

yea but for three grand brand new you have to expect that its gunna need a bit of looking after. Its all about expectations, you can't buy a GN and expect it to perform of last the same as a higher end bike, its just not realistic. Is there any chrome on your Beemer? how much did you buy it for?? all of these things are factors that people have to understand when buying something like a GN

[MSTRS]

Keeping your bike clean should make no difference, but waxing will. Yet who waxes the fork stanchions, for example?
With the Chinese GNs...nothing you do will stop the corrosion. Some are worse than others, but this one is as bad as it gets. The owner is having a laugh over the price? Surely? Or did s/he miss the . ? ie $33.00

[igor]

what planet u on. Ya pay ya money u should not have to put up with this.

Strange how a heap of people jumped up and down about Peanut Butter being made in Japan and Sanitirium stopped making it there. Now produced in Oz.

Geez u would probably be happy eating dogshit cause it cheaper.

[Ryan432]

yea with a chinese bike that costs three grand there are gunna be a few bad ones but you can do things to prevent corrosion, just a normal wash will help the forks and those bits and peices. I just don't think its reasonable when people expect a 3000 junker to live up to the same standards as a race bike like a GSXR or a higher end manufacturer such as BMW
:done:

[Pedrostt500]

Just left the owner a message to go to Fair Go, see if Mr Suzuki will come to the party after abit of national TV exsposure.

[Ryan432]

yea that guys bike shoud definitly come under warranty, it looks like a bad egg

[PirateJafa]

Keeping your bike clean should make no difference, but waxing will. Yet who waxes the fork stanchions, for example?
With the Chinese GNs...nothing you do will stop the corrosion. Some are worse than others, but this one is as bad as it gets. The owner is having a laugh over the price? Surely? Or did s/he miss the . ? ie $33.00

I suspect the owner wants to keep it on TradeMe to serve as a warning/negative advertising.

[Madness]

He only wants $3,300 for it. Good luck to him/her I say!.

Looking at the pics reminded me of this. (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=64298&highlight=wreckers+yard)

[marty]

a lot of that corrosion looks like intergranular-type, and tracking type, having tracked underneath the clear lacquer paint. no amount of washing or waxing will stop that. intergranular is caused by poor material manufacturing.

[sinfull]

Three letters CRC

[igor]

a lot of that corrosion looks like intergranular-type, and tracking type, having tracked underneath the clear lacquer paint. no amount of washing or waxing will stop that. intergranular is caused by poor material manufacturing.

wot u on abot mon. all does big words like wheelbarrowi is confusing me

[Nagash]

Shoulda got a honda..

[RantyDave]

Well, maybe I've gone completely bonkers, but it doesn't look all that bad to me.

The majority of it is corrosion on the aluminium. My (admittedly much older than 11 months) SR250 had tons of that. I've seen GN's with rust weeping out of the frame, chrome peeling off etc. etc. I've seen Hyosung's a year or so old in worse condition too.

Maybe I have gone completely bonkers. Maybe my SR was a lemon and I never realised it. Heh.

Dave

[martybabe]

:mad: I don't care if it's a 125 cheap as chips roadster or a 1300 supersports, it was someones pride and joy and it shouldn't be in that state after 11 months, bloody rip off.

Some kid coulda saved up for a couple o years to buy that as his first bike, a rolling rust bucket, I'd be well chuffed with that and the apparent lack of response from Mr Suzuki.


:calm:

Is this common for Chinese bikes ?

[Ocean1]

it was someones pride and joy and it shouldn't be in that state after 11 months, bloody rip off.

Correct.

Inadequate cleaning shouldn't produce results like that, unless there's been some sort of corrosive contaminant involved it can not be said to be a product that's "fit for purpose".

It's a manufacturing quality issue and if one of my nippers had had this experience I'd be on the warpath.

[Mountlocal1]

Correct.

Inadequate cleaning shouldn't produce results like that, unless there's been some sort of corrosive contaminant involved it can not be said to be a product that's "fit for purpose".

It's a manufacturing quality issue and if one of my nippers had had this experience I'd be on the warpath.

Yip.

What was Suzuki's exact response??

[Zoolander]

Seems that trademe have pulled the listing, but I can tell you its not only GN's that rust up. My GSXR600 K4, which I bought new, started rusting in the fuel tank at 1200km. And no, it wasn't stored outside or left with an empty tank. Suzuki didn't want to know nor did the dealer. This was my second GSXR and both of them had build quality issues.

[Owl]

Seems that trademe have pulled the listing, but I can tell you its not only GN's that rust up. My GSXR600 K4, which I bought new, started rusting in the fuel tank at 1200km. And no, it wasn't stored outside or left with an empty tank. Suzuki didn't want to know nor did the dealer. This was my second GSXR and both of them had build quality issues.

After what I saw a couple of weeks ago, I'd have to say Suzuki holds the record for the lousiest paint work on the planet. I've never seen paint so thin!:argh:

[Zoolander]

After what I saw a couple of weeks ago, I'd have to say Suzuki holds the record for the lousiest paint work on the planet. I've never seen paint so thin!:argh:

Dont even get me started on the paint, that was another issue I had with the K4, Interestingly the warranty only covered paint for a very short time. Have seen loads of the silver GSXR1000's where the paint has peeled off from the lower front fairings too. Suzuki still have a long way to when it comes to building bikes that will last! To be honest I think they're shit and will never buy another one.

[riffer]

Dont even get me started on the paint, that was another issue I had with the K4, Interestingly the warranty only covered paint for a very short time. Have seen loads of the silver GSXR1000's where the paint has peeled off from the lower front fairings too. Suzuki still have a long way to when it comes to building bikes that will last! To be honest I think they're shit and will never buy another one.

More choice for me.

My Suzuki is 12 years old, done 122000 kms, doesn't have a speck of rust on it, and still purrs.

Look after your bike and it will look after you.

[xgnr]

Sorry to say it but this is one of the reasons I will never buy another Jap bike.

Admittedly, the quality is much better than it used to be (compare Jap to Chinese now and it's like the BMW to Jap 20 years ago IMHO)

My old Beemer has no rust and its 15 years old and 122,000km. I do nothing special except give her a wash and the odd wax (alright stopit :Offtopic:)

Aluminum tank means no rust in there and all the bolts are plated. Quality throughout.

I guess that's why they cost an arm and a leg when new and why I couldn't afford one he he.

[breakaway]

I hate when people link to classifieds. Don't you realise that once it's withdrawn or expired no one else will be able to see what you're going on about?

Learn to use the print screen button.

Fortunately for you I'm an internet superhero and was able to obtain auction contents:

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[Cat101]

Good greif... Just clean it! The chrome just looks like its never been cleaned! Check out the chain guard area it tells it all. It looks like surface DIRT over it that has dirtied the chrome so what exactly do you expect the alloy to do? You get what you pay for, pure and simple.

Get over it! :zzzz::zzzz::zzzz::zzzz:

[sunhuntin]

hell, my viragos aluminum looks worse than that. thats nothing major. but, its 10 years old, and been ridden in all weathers. it can be repaired, but i havent tried it, so wont recommend it. an ex of mine said to use sandpaper, gradually working through the grains till you are on a very fine one, before switching to a rag. it takes a long time, but the results are worth it. again, i dont recommend this unless you know what you are doing.

as for saying that you cant expect a bike to last for the price, thats bollocks. as someone else said, someone saved up and loved that bike, and it should last a hell of a lot longer than that. i was cleaning my 06 every other week, with all the kit, and it still rusted like fuck. no amount of cleaning would have prevented it. im almost certain some of the rust was there before i even rode it home.

[munster]

It's back

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Tourers/auction-167232138.htm

[Lias]

My GN was like that. I just assumed it was because I kept it in the carport.. Guess it wasn't!

[FCompston]

Someone keeps complaining to Trade-me about the add and I have to keep calling Trade-me to get it re-instated.

The case is going to the Motor Vehicle Disputes Tribunal on August 25th.
I chose the MDVT instead of the normal disputes tribunal because it is adjudicated by a barrister with advice from a mechanic. The normal disputes tribunal uses a JP or someone that is not necessarily from a legal background.

I am expecting an order that MR Motorcycles will need to replace all corroded parts because:
1) The warranty DOES cover corrosion of fundamental parts. The exclusion is for paint, trim, chrome and OTHER APPEARANCE ITEMS. The corroded parts are NOT appearance items.
2) It is covered under the Consumers Guarantees Act because a reasonable person would not have purchased the bike if they had known what the corrosion would be like after 11 months.

After I get the ruling, I will post details to help others who have simillar problems.

[FROSTY]

you bought an import from china. and complain about some minor surface crud?? eeep ---yet it was the cheapest 250cc bike on the market at the time by --ohh thats right thousands --sheesh

[Ocean1]

And doesn't come close to "merchantable quality"

It's a crock dude, some goods may be very cheap indeed, and be worth next to nothing at all.

[Cat101]

And doesn't come close to "merchantable quality"

It's a crock dude, some goods may be very cheap indeed, and be worth next to nothing at all.

Worth next to nothing? He's asking nearly $2000 more for the bike than what he paid for it? Sounds like this bike was a good investment! LOL!::niceone:

[breakaway]

I think that the listing in question was a pisstake, and he was just pissed off at how his bike is disintegrating right before his eyes, and he wanted to spread the word.

[Cat101]

Agree, but he wont be helping his case if he showing an adtv stating "Genuine sale" for much more than he paid, very unwise!

[sidecar bob]

you bought an import from china. and complain about some minor surface crud?? eeep ---yet it was the cheapest 250cc bike on the market at the time by --ohh thats right thousands --sheesh

Well they should up their quality & up their price a bit.
There seems to be this attitude that, hey, its made in China, its gonna be shit, build a bridge & stop complaining.
Well fuck them, if they want to unload shit that dosent even last a year, i see no reason why they shouldnt take it back, & up the arse to boot.
Nobody demands lowest grade for lowest price, Thats just the Chinese strategey of forcing all the other players out of contention until they are the only manufacturers left & we will have to accept their shit at whatever price they ask, because there will be no other manufacturers left.

[Dave-]

best of luck dude, good choice on the MVDT.

do your homework, learn the CGA in and out, do a time line of the events, (both detailed and a basic) organise all your stuff into an easy to read portfolio.

take 6 copies of everything, high light inportant parts, and add notes to your own copy of what to make special mention of, take 1 for your support person, 1 for the dealer and his support person, 1 for the judicator, 1 for the assesor and 1 for the notes taking person.

take sevral photos, and again 6 copies.

and dont forget the bribe xD

[westie]

Good work breakaway. I thought I'd never see the big bad GN in all its glory.

Cheap bike....