Does being a biker influence the way you vote?

[klingon]

So you ride a motorbike.

Does that have anything at all to do with your voting decision at election time?

[Skyryder]

So you ride a motorbike.

Does that have anything at all to do with your voting decision at election time?

Not for me it doesn't.

Skyryder

[Headbanger]

Nope.

Being a taxpayer and provider is what effects the way I vote.

And I vote for a bullet for each and everyone of the shit bags.

[McJim]

It defines how I get to the polling station....

Odd question though. Do you see bikers as socialists or capitalists? I mean someone on a 250 commuter may be doing so because it is economic and has a small carbon footprint so they may be green or socialist.

Whereas someone with the readies to have a couple of MVs, a 1098 and a V-Rod for calm days is probably going to vote for whoever is going to line their pockets with tax rebates.

[Boob Johnson]

Yep very odd question indeed.

Does it effect the way I vote?

Short answer..............no & why would it?

[Conquiztador]

There are decisions parties make that will affect the ones on bikes.

-Import tax
-Change in license laws
-ACC charges on bikes
-Petrol costs (tax)
-Customising
-Saefty (Cheese cutters, day glow wests, helmets, and god forbid: airbags on bikes)
-etc.

If there was a party that was pro biking instead of cages, then yes, I would vote for them. But as far as I know there is none, so based on all this, perhaps being a bikie has no bearing on who we vote on. Same crap all of them.

[Gremlin]

Yep, they makee a law against bikers, I dun like em. If I wasn't a biker, I wouldn't care, would I? :stupid:

Same really as asking if being a parent influences the way you vote. Generally speaking, you would factor in family policies and laws that affect the safety of your family ('cept the ones that don't really care about their kids).

[Griffin]

It may influence my vote in so much that if election day is a good day for a ride then I might not bother stopping to put a vote in :blink:

[Oakie]

No influence. Being a biker is only a support role to my life. It does not define who I am.

[Swoop]

Nope, no effect on voting whatsoever.

Whereas someone with the readies to have a couple of MVs, a 1098 and a V-Rod for calm days is probably going to vote for whoever is going to line their pockets with tax rebates.
I doubt a person like that actually pays any tax...:rolleyes:

[bobsmith]

Now the real question is...

Do motorcycling tend to attract people who are more likely to vote for certain political party?

[slofox]

So you ride a motorbike.

Does that have anything at all to do with your voting decision at election time?

No. No. No. No. (I had to lengthen my message from one "no".....)

[vifferman]

Indirectly.
Because I ride a bike, I emailed my local MP about the cheesecutter campaign, and he replied promptly, and with a sensible answer. As a result, my estimation of him has improved.

[Trudes]

Helen Clarke used to ride a Honda (scooter).

[Murray]

Nope, no influence at all. All politicians do not see the biking community as a biggie. Something like 79,000 bikes/mopeds registered against 427,000 trucks and about 2.2 millsion cars on the road.

[Blackbird]

So you ride a motorbike.

Does that have anything at all to do with your voting decision at election time?

Indirectly also. I'd like to think that bikers, being the largely independent and cynical lot that we are; are less influenced than the public at large by media hype and can sniff out political bullshit at several hundred km.

[Tank]

Like everything you have to look at the entire picture.

yes - Im a biker. But Im also a parent, husband, and sole income earner, who cares for New Zealand and wants the world to be a better place for my kids.

I have to look at the bigger items on my list before I get to the 'biker bits'.

If Labour turned around tomorrow and said - We will make all cheese cutters safe in 6 months from the election - Id still not vote for the bastards, despite wanting what the were offering (at the time).


So put me down for a No with cheese.

[ManDownUnder]

Being a biker would suggest a higher risk profile:
Which in turn would suggest a tendency to take a chance rather than rely on others:
Which would suggest right rather than left wing leanings...

At least that's how I see it.

[Blackbird]

Being a biker would suggest a higher risk profile:
Which in turn would suggest a tendency to take a chance rather than rely on others:
Which would suggest right rather than left wing leanings...

At least that's how I see it.

Spot on as usual Nigel. I'm slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan. (but with a reasonable social conscience:rolleyes:)

[Toaster]

Like everything you have to look at the entire picture.

yes - Im a biker. But Im also a parent, husband, and sole income earner, who cares for New Zealand and wants the world to be a better place for my kids.

I have to look at the bigger items on my list before I get to the 'biker bits'.

If Labour turned around tomorrow and said - We will make all cheese cutters safe in 6 months from the election - Id still not vote for the bastards, despite wanting what the were offering (at the time).


So put me down for a No with cheese.

I concur on all points Tank.:beer:

[Murray]

I think you lean towards the left or the right depending on the corner

[nallac]

I concur on all points Tank.:beer:
me to........

[Dave-]

re: thread title - so you're telling me there's althernative method to voting?

I thought you turned up to the booth thinger, checked your choice then put it in the ballot box...

is it different for motorcyclists?

[Swoop]

I thought you turned up to the booth thinger, checked your choice then put it in the ballot box...

is it different for motorcyclists?
Yes. We can ride straight into the polling booth.:scooter:

[mstriumph]

No influence. Being a biker is only a support role to my life. It does not define who I am.
ahhhhh - interesting


i don't vote because of who i am
i ride a bike because of who i am

so, although a cursory glance would say those two statements are related, further thought would show they are only related by marriage [so to speak] --they are not inter-dependant

neither thing defines me - but i define them

-------
but i digress - the answer is 'yes' .... or 'no' - dependant on how looooow you wanna go :laugh:

[pritch]

At first I thought it was a really odd question. On reflection though maybe not quite so odd.

I live in the electorate from which comes the current Minister of Transport.
Will I vote for him? About the same time Hell freezes over!!!

[SVboy]

i have been a Labour supporter since birth, but have become pretty disenchanted with them. Trust National less. The straw which broke this camels back was the proposal to ban Radar detectors. If that happens, I am not sure what I will do....but it will influence my vote.

[Ixion]

Well, of course.

Socially, I ride a bike 'cos I am an irritating old bastard wot hates the world cos they keep trying to kill me. So I will vote for whatever party is most likely to commit the world to nuclear Armageddon, and fry the cunts wot try to kill me .

Economically bikers are a frugal bunch ,bikes being cheaper to run than cars, and I am an impoverished old man eking out a destitute and impecunious existence . So I get pissed off paying half of the miserable pittance I earn to the government to support thousands of lazy bludgers and pay for vainglorious imbecilities that do nothing but satisfy the zealotry of those who benefit from them. And thus will vote for whatever government will promise to transfer the handouts to me instead of them, and massively reduce my tax imposition, whilst at the same time massively increasing the tax rates for the greedy bastards who earn more than I do (indexing the rate , of course, in case I start earning more) .

[alanzs]

Vote? I vote to ride. I ride to vote. I ride, therefore I am. :lol:

[alanzs]

i have been a Labour supporter since birth, but have become pretty disenchanted with them. Trust National less. The straw which broke this camels back was the proposal to ban Radar detectors. If that happens, I am not sure what I will do....but it will influence my vote.

Ride faster? Take up advanced riding skills designed to evade the police? :rockon:

[Number One]

Yup changed everything for instance...

I used to get all dolled up and pop down in the car saunter in and get the lovely ladies (who smile profusely at the young girl exercising her right to vote) mince my way over to the booth and very ladylike (of course) I complete the ballot and pop it into the little ballot boxy thingamee weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

Now if it's raining - I might not bother going out at all (p/t) AND when I do I don't get half as tarted up as I used to, I crash through the door of the school hall, head to toe black, helmet in hand and thunk thunk thunk up to the little old ladies to have my name checked off...they looking startled, beggging me NOT to take their purses pass me the ballot, thunk thunk thunk over the booth, tada big x on my choices then I SLAM the folded up ballot into the box, moon the door man on my way out, do a big burnout and wheelie off...voting completed.

Seriously though - I am actually interested in transport issues and a parties stance on them but frankly I don't really want to give my vote to ANY of them :rolleyes: I know I know have your say or don't complain...blah blah blah...would rather make no choice than the wrong one....SUCH A LIBRAN!

[puddytat]

Nah, it doesnt influence me, IM STILL GOING TO VOTE GREEN:msn-wink:

[klingon]

Ha ha ha excellent answer, Number One!


There are decisions parties make that will affect the ones on bikes.

-Import tax
-Change in license laws
-ACC charges on bikes
-Petrol costs (tax)
-Customising
-Saefty (Cheese cutters, day glow wests, helmets, and god forbid: airbags on bikes)
-etc.

...

Yeah that's the kind of things I was thinking about.

Parliament makes laws. Laws affect our rights and responsibilities as bikers. We choose who goes to parliament by the way we vote. In fact they don't even have to change laws, they can just make policies and government departments have to follow them.

So for example if the Gov't directed Transit to take motorcyclists into account every time they build a new road (or substantially alter an existing one) then Transit would have to do it. They would have to think about what surfaces they use, what paint, what barrier systems, whether intersections, cambers, sight lines etc were the best for bikers... It could make quite a difference to my daily life!


Well, of course.

Socially, I ride a bike 'cos I am an irritating old bastard wot hates the world cos they keep trying to kill me. So I will vote for whatever party is most likely to commit the world to nuclear Armageddon, and fry the cunts wot try to kill me .

Economically bikers are a frugal bunch ,bikes being cheaper to run than cars, and I am an impoverished old man eking out a destitute and impecunious existence . So I get pissed off paying half of the miserable pittance I earn to the government to support thousands of lazy bludgers and pay for vainglorious imbecilities that do nothing but satisfy the zealotry of those who benefit from them. And thus will vote for whatever government will promise to transfer the handouts to me instead of them, and massively reduce my tax imposition, whilst at the same time massively increasing the tax rates for the greedy bastards who earn more than I do (indexing the rate , of course, in case I start earning more) .

Eh?! :wacko:

[rottiguy]

Nope, cause I'm not aware any of the parties have any polices on motorcycles. Do they ? me not know :blink:


So you ride a motorbike.

Does that have anything at all to do with your voting decision at election time?

[munterk6]

why vote for a "meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss" system????
I will cast a vote when Jesus arrives....:clap:

[Biggles2000]

Yep, :argh:

[FLYMO]

never buying another honda scooter ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

[avgas]

yep - im a true biker and i say "FUCK THE MAN"
rest of you are nancys

[SPman]

Helen Clarke used to ride a Honda (scooter).No No No - not a scooter! A Honda Cub is notascoota!
Bad Bad Bad!
Tis a Motobike!
Shame on you!


or is that Shame on her, for bringing down the image of motorcyclists!

[Brett]

Nope, I have always had a huge dislike for Labour. Nothing to do with bikes, go to do with their social engineering and pc bullshit.

[Motu]

I think the word biker has changed it's meaning over the years - it used to mean something a bit darker,antisocial and anti establishment,they weren't the type of people that made Mum and Dad feel comfortable.I am still anti establishment,and have never voted for a party in power...although I may have voted a party into power,even if that may have not been my intention.It will be a protest vote as usual....first thing to look for is someone not wearing a suit....

[DougB]

Some years ago I parked my gorgeous bright blue Moto Guzzi police special in the main street of Tauranga.
Winston Peters was walking down the footpath. He did a double take turned around and stood a while admiring my pride and joy. He got my vote.

From what I see and hear of members of parliment this could be as good a reason as any for giving one the vote.

[oldrider]

First of all I am "me"!

because I am me I ride motorcycles and everything else I do is a reflection of who I am, not the other way around.

I vote for people or parties that reflect me and how they can benefit me my family my friends and my fellow countrymen.

The closest NZ party that reflects me is (but not necessarily the one I vote for) the "Libertarianz"!

As Mark Twain is credited to have said:

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect!

New Zealand is a majority Socialist country but whenever the socialist politicians need to make progress, they look to the right for real solutions.

After they have dabbled and gained a little ground they inevitably turn hard left back to their comfort zones and their socialist supporters.

Remember David Lange's infamous, "Time for a cup of tea".

Progress and left wing politics are a paradox, left wing politics are at best a recipe for mediocrity at worst a miserable failure. (the world is full of evidence)

NZ Governments need right wing ideas but are forced to appease left wing voters, resulting in almost permanent political stagnation.

IMHO all of the parties on serious offer to NZ voters are left of center socialist pretenders.

The best they will ever deliver is higher cost (taxation) "BIG" government at the expense of individual rights and freedoms. :shifty: John.