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justsomeguy
26th July 2008, 00:29
What is the general opinion here, 600 vs 750 vs 1000?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kzq2vlBcxrI

Good vid.

I love thou's. But being an idiot I need more time on a smaller bike before I can be an idiot on a thou (as I found out the hard way).

The next best bike so far to me seems like a K4/K5 Gixxer750. Won't spend more than Au$10K on a bike I will crash sooner or later, with you know, me being an idiot and all that. Anything else is too expensive, the cheapest bike in this class is the K3/K4 GSXR1000 - which offers hard to resist bang for your buck.

More than 6 months away from saving up, so just sharing thoughts here.

McJim
26th July 2008, 01:35
From that vid? 848 please I don't like IL4s

fatzx10r
26th July 2008, 01:52
i'd go the zx10r, as i did!. you dont have to use all the throttle, but by hell it's alot of fun when you crank it up:crazy:

Boob Johnson
26th July 2008, 01:57
Only you can really answer that one & most certainly from that vid as well as they talk about there own personal use helping to draw the conclusion. I personally prefer a bike that scares me, but im a bit of a nutter :innocent:


Good to see you are saving up & not financing it :rockon:

There is something strangely satisfying about paying cash, sense of achievement n all that :woohoo:

Meekey_Mouse
26th July 2008, 08:00
Definitely a choice you have to make for yourself... But for me, I've never ridden a 750, although I want to someday soon! Out of the 600 or thou I'd choose the 600... Simply cause I know I'd either lose my license or my life on a thou. But once I'm bored of the 600 (long way from it still... possibly haha) I'd step up to a 750 for sure :yes:

scracha
26th July 2008, 09:55
Bored of a 600? I find the 1000's boring myself...pootling around at 3000rpm worrying about going over a bump that'll twist your wrist by a fraction of a degree and then finding you're doing 200k's (at least that's what I'd tell the copper).

nico
26th July 2008, 10:29
im loving the 750 at the moment seem to get good gas mielage as using for work but still finding able to get unwanted atention from the fuzz

:weep:one day the litre bikes will let me play come out and play with them

Gremlin
27th July 2008, 04:32
Really depends on the individual, and what they are doing with it.

For me, 600 is definitely too small, don't like peaky bikes with bugger all power lower down. 750 is a very good option, however, I hate suzuki, and most of the other players don't offer 750s (848 I guess, but expensive) and I had a zx7r and loved it. 1000 are definitely a handful (if you are mid range and think its crazy, try riding it at the top end), but keeping pace with the lighter, easier to handle 600 in tight twisties is certainly exciting.

However... for me, I'm over sportsbikes, so that rules out all those bikes in the vid :yes: If you are a decent rider, you can probably ride a naked/twin/whatever, just as quick as a sportsbike up to a certain speed, and thats over the speed limit anyway :sweatdrop

justsomeguy
27th July 2008, 05:12
Really depends on the individual, and what they are doing with it.

For me, 600 is definitely too small, don't like peaky bikes with bugger all power lower down. 750 is a very good option, however, I hate suzuki, and most of the other players don't offer 750s (848 I guess, but expensive) and I had a zx7r and loved it. 1000 are definitely a handful (if you are mid range and think its crazy, try riding it at the top end), but keeping pace with the lighter, easier to handle 600 in tight twisties is certainly exciting.

However... for me, I'm over sportsbikes, so that rules out all those bikes in the vid :yes: If you are a decent rider, you can probably ride a naked/twin/whatever, just as quick as a sportsbike up to a certain speed, and thats over the speed limit anyway :sweatdrop


Yes Sir, however unlike you I'm useless on the road and will (whenever I get a bike) try and ride in areas with no speed limits, while only commuting in areas with them.

Riding a thou in the top-top end is fun though. Only done it once and since it will be over a year before I own another bike since that ride, think a K4/K5 750 may be the way to go. A K4/K5 will make a good learner bike for now. I've wanted a thou since the days of our immortal ZZR's, good things come to those who wait, they say. Posted this thread to see what else they say...

You sure you are over sportsbikes? Seem to be hanging on to that black beauty for a while? Now what's wrong with Suzuki's?

Gremlin
27th July 2008, 05:22
You sure you are over sportsbikes? Seem to be hanging on to that black beauty for a while? Now what's wrong with Suzuki's?
Yeh, had the black beauty since March last year, not fussed if it doesn't sell quick, as market is crazy (economy and weather) and it looks likely it will be traded shortly. Won't go into too much detail on suzuki, but for one, I don't feel any emotion with them, they don't excite me at all.

Over sportsbikes? Yep. Much too easy to speed (even pulling out of a side street)... license is imperative for work, sportsbikes aren't comfortable (at my size anyway), and I have more fun on the hornet with less speed involved. I can put it through most corners (other than high speed sweepers) just as quick as the 10.

ZX10 costs about $1300 (inc tyre set) a service, always needing tyres, and various other consumables last half the time (or less) compared to the hornet. Hornet, normally no more than $250 a service, tyres normally bi-service.

Still love the 10 (took it out during the week, when it was good) and got reminded how fun they are (slides, wheelies, enormous grin from trying to tame the horsepower and even had both wheels off the ground at 150kph ish) but riding at the limit was seriously boring.

Okey Dokey
27th July 2008, 12:32
I find the 750 to be my ideal bike. Has enough grunt to accelerate out of trouble, and I have the self-control to not speed. I like the fact that it is pretty light, too - generally the same weight as a 600

Good luck with your decision; it will be your call and you will know what suits you best.

BigG
27th July 2008, 12:49
R6 is the bike, it's sharp light and for an old bugger like me easy to flick round the corners. Doesnt matter what you ride the fuzz will still take your licence off you if you exceed 140 or 100 demerits.

kiwifruit
27th July 2008, 13:01
675 Daytona

t3mp0r4ry nzr
27th July 2008, 13:08
totally depends on your style of riding and what ya like. 750cc was a dissapointment. you still gota rev it like a 600cc to get the power out of it and down low it has nothing. definitly not this mystical "best bike for the roads" said by many. 1000cc is my preference cos I like instant power and massive torque.

Firefight
27th July 2008, 16:08
R6










f/f

Swoop
27th July 2008, 16:18
Definitely a choice you have to make for yourself... But for me, I've never ridden a 750, although I want to someday soon! Out of the 600 or thou I'd choose the 600... Simply cause I know I'd either lose my license or my life on a thou. But once I'm bored of the 600 (long way from it still... possibly haha) I'd step up to a 750 for sure :yes:
A wise woman.

R6
A wise man.

:cool:<--- both.

bart
27th July 2008, 16:58
I always had more fun on 750's. They just seem easier to ride fast. Thous are better for long trips.

I like the idea of different power settings that the GSXR1000 has. Tame it down for rainy days. That would be my pick.

justsomeguy
28th July 2008, 02:15
R6f/f

Heya,

Where are MR and TS these days?

The R6 is good, but a 636 is faster ;).

The next bike list (all the bikes cost the same):

Learner bike:
1. K4/K5 750
2. 03-06 636 (depending on what I can find)

Final bike:
1. Whichever thou I can find - ideally a 04/05 ZX10R or K3/K4 Gix1K

Let's see what happens. May just get a GN250..:whistle:

Keep the comments rolling. I'm not asking for advice, just trying to see what everyone prefers for themselves.
JSG

Firefight
28th July 2008, 05:36
Heya,

Where are MR and TS these days? ..

The R6 is good, but a 636 is faster ;).


JSG


Hey Ujawl all good with me,
not sure about MR or TS,
R6 still the better bike.

D

Cajun
28th July 2008, 08:30
750 is one of the best real world bikes i believe, more just more hp on the 600 when are you more communiting touring, so you don' th ave to rev it as much.

Personally i perfer the 600/750 size.

1000cc 4cylinders are just over top of fast road use.

Winston001
28th July 2008, 12:03
CC rating can be deceptive. The more important consideration is power to weight ratio. So a light 2 cylinder 600 is more userfriendly than a heavy 4 cylinder 750. A 4 cylinder 1000-1200 is a beast - scarily powerful but heavy.

My mates Bandit 1200 feels like a locomotive on meth compared with the Ducati. Same performance but the Duke is far lighter and goes around corners on a rail.

For touring and two-up, there is no beating torque and 750 - 1000 is where you'll find that.

However for fun and weekend riding etc, nothing wrong with a 600. I chased a mate on his Suzuki VStrom 650 through the Inland Kaikoura route, which is pretty tight in places, and he disappeared. :eek:

fatzx10r
28th July 2008, 12:21
CC rating can be deceptive. The more important consideration is power to weight ratio. So a light 2 cylinder 600 is more userfriendly than a heavy 4 cylinder 750. A 4 cylinder 1000-1200 is a beast - scarily powerful but heavy.

My mates Bandit 1200 feels like a locomotive on meth compared with the Ducati. Same performance but the Duke is far lighter and goes around corners on a rail.

For touring and two-up, there is no beating torque and 750 - 1000 is where you'll find that.

However for fun and weekend riding etc, nothing wrong with a 600. I chased a mate on his Suzuki VStrom 650 through the Inland Kaikoura route, which is pretty tight in places, and he disappeared. :eek:

not all 1000's are heavy, some way not much more than a 600. and less than most ducati's

zeocen
28th July 2008, 13:23
I've never liked MCN reviews personally, they all seem to be from personal experience which is awesome, but they don't back it up with any specifications or what the bike is actually *for*.

To be honest, I'm gonna have to go against the grain here and say that I love my 650 twin, and it's gutless in top end compared to the bikes mentioned in that vid. I would have to say, right now, the litre bikes bore me. I was bored to tits on my 1100 blackbird because I couldn't ride it as intended, my ZZR1100 I rode 24/7 non stop so I got used to the weight and was able to ride it as intended, but after coming down from Ignorantville and having a dose of reality splashed in my face, trading the CBR1100 in for the ER6F was the best decision ever. I can still carry as much luggage as I could on the CBR/ZZR and with my experience on bikes I have 500% more fun on a midranged bike than a litre bike, purely because it feels more involved.. I'm changing the gears, I'm revving it and gunning it out of corners.. there's not much else I need right now.

Of course, my dream bike is an 07 ZX-10... I will have it one day, one day! But for that review to say that a 600 or the twin is no good for the road is terrible! These are the things you should give people thoughts on, not definitive statements like that, they aren't "John Everyman" so they shouldn't plain out say "Yeah it's a track bike." or "It's too revvy and requries a lot of work." ... some people like that.

Yep, this post had no point at all, but it killed a few minutes at work :D

Gremlin
28th July 2008, 14:22
I was bored to tits on my 1100 blackbird because I couldn't ride it as intended
I did manage that on blackbird... found that the givi speed rating for full luggage was... heavily conservative :innocent: Poor tyres looked a bit stuffed from all the weight and longish periods of speed...

Naturally... I also got picked up for speeding... barely under the license loss marker (least it wasn't earlier I guess ;))... but the demerits did it instead... :crybaby:

slow goooood :scooter:

The Pastor
28th July 2008, 14:26
My 250 seems to be able to keep up :)

enigma51
28th July 2008, 14:36
750 all the way until im on the back straight of taupo and puke and boomer pulls away

Kornholio
28th July 2008, 15:16
750 all the way until im on the back straight of taupo and puke and boomer pulls away

Mate, my 750 pulls away from yours.................

enigma51
28th July 2008, 15:21
Mate, my 750 pulls away from yours.................

What ever!

Rumour has it you are joining the racing crowd is it true?

avgas
28th July 2008, 15:24
Well i like thou's - because i am of 2 minds really.
I like fat chicks with large assets, or skinny chicks (or tight little asians) that i can throw around.
The 600/750 MILF's have their own porno Genre that im not really into.

boomer
28th July 2008, 22:06
750 all the way until im on the back straight of taupo and puke and boomer pulls away

the fact i pull away from you on corners has nothing to do with bike size :whistle:

boomer
28th July 2008, 22:08
Mate, my 750 pulls away from yours.................

only cos you go off road on yours and no one follows :shutup:


:P

Brett
28th July 2008, 22:27
Hmm, hard choice...and I have had far too much wine this evening to give a sensible answer, so forgive if I loose my train of thought.
My 600 has yet to leave me bored. It corners brilliantly and is more flexible in terms of the throttle applied. Yes, it will fall behind a 750 or a thou down a decent straight, but so what? If I am not racing then does it really matter? It will wheelie off the throttle in first & second and even third if over a decent rise and can certainly help me loose my licence quickly...or send me to meet my maker.
That said, I am considering a 750cc or similarly rated bike for my next bike...maybe the daytona 675..but crap they have hard seats.

Kornholio
28th July 2008, 22:34
only cos you go off road on yours and no one follows :shutup:


:P

You just need to harden up a bit my feathered friend :buggerd:

Kiwi Graham
29th July 2008, 21:24
Depends what you want to do!!! Ive had the 750 and the 1000. I raced a 750 at club level in the open class and it saw off many a litre bike. With the 750 it has the torque to get you out of a gear fuck up and the stomp at the top end to keep you on the pace. You can get on the gas alot sooner and harder on the 750, the 1000 needs respect when giving it a handful if you anything but upright!! I recon if it's usability, corner speed and the pleasure of doing it to the big boys go for the 750, if you have a gentle throttle hand and like the idea of owning a 1000 go for it. For me the 600 is hard work but I've only ridden one once. All three have similar dimensions.....Top tip, go to your dealer and take all three out back to back then its decision time!!!!

blossomsowner
29th July 2008, 22:23
I have had a 750 and a 1100 and now a 900.........theres really not much between them all for road riding. Smaller lighter bikes are easier in the tight corners but the big torque and power on the litre plus bikes makes for huge smiles. i prefer more power because i'm too lazy for lots of gear changing and prefer to be doing lower revs at cruising speed.
went for a ride recently with two mates on a nice back road and they were on 250's and kept up fine most of the way.
And if i am in the mood........let it wind up and really feel the power. I know i'm rambling on......................

justsomeguy
29th July 2008, 22:47
Hmm, hard choice...and I have had far too much wine this evening to give a sensible answer, so forgive if I loose my train of thought.
My 600 has yet to leave me bored. It corners brilliantly and is more flexible in terms of the throttle applied. Yes, it will fall behind a 750 or a thou down a decent straight, but so what? If I am not racing then does it really matter? It will wheelie off the throttle in first & second and even third if over a decent rise and can certainly help me loose my licence quickly...or send me to meet my maker.
That said, I am considering a 750cc or similarly rated bike for my next bike...maybe the daytona 675..but crap they have hard seats.

I haven't ridden your model gixxer, have very briefly ridden a K5 750 though.

Ridden a 636 (04 and 06), CBR600RR, 05 R6 and a 675. Had a decent chance to muck around. None of them really feels that much different, a slight difference tipping-in which could be the bike set up or where in my PMS cycle I was.....

A 675 is a step sideways, only buy it if you like the looks and want another 600. I found it a bit boring actually compared to my 636.

- If you haven't already go sit on a thou - push down hard on the front and in 2nd gear - actually try 3rd to be safe - just twist the throttle fully and hold it there for a bit. If that doesn't put a smile on your face, you're in the wrong part of this forum :)

justsomeguy
30th July 2008, 00:47
Depends what you want to do!!!

I want to be able to ride a thou like it's meant to be. Managed to get somewhere there with a 600...will try to get there on a thou someday. 1 step at a time.


I recon if it's usability, corner speed and the pleasure of doing it to the big boys go for the 750, if you have a gentle throttle hand and like the idea of owning a 1000 go for it. For me the 600 is hard work but I've only ridden one once. All three have similar dimensions.....Top tip, go to your dealer and take all three out back to back then its decision time!!!!

Dealers in Sydney are shit - don't have 1% of the customer service levels of the chaps back home. See how it goes will be next year at least.

Have ridden a 750 only once and liked it. Liked the thou a whole lot more.

No hurry 6+ months to dream.....

Pussy
30th July 2008, 16:41
Hey JSG... I went from a K6 1000 to a K6 750 (after having owned four 1000s), and for me personally, I much prefer the 750. Try to get a testride of a K6-K7 750, you may be pleasantly surprised

boomer
30th July 2008, 17:45
Hey JSG... I went from a K6 1000 to a K6 750 (after having owned four 1000s), and for me personally, I much prefer the 750. Try to get a testride of a K6-K7 750, you may be pleasantly surprised

is that because your hand shakes :p

jrandom
30th July 2008, 17:48
Hey JSG... I went from a K6 1000 to a K6 750 (after having owned four 1000s), and for me personally, I much prefer the 750. Try to get a testride of a K6-K7 750, you may be pleasantly surprised

Yeah. The 750's a fair bit slower, but it's more fun, 'cos you can WOT it.

:niceone:

Edit: HI BOOMER!

svr
30th July 2008, 18:05
If its about the bike, get the thou, if its about your riding, get a 6.

Just read an article in Bike mag written by Rupert Paul (great journo) complaining that the manufacturers don't really try to make great road bikes anymore. Our choice is between peaky uncomfortable race-reps, or overweight / bouncy retro's and nakeds.
Where's my 100hp 900ish (any number of cylinders) with a 10k redline, heaps of torque, the best boingers, half a fairing, decent seat and 165kg dry weight?
Might have to bore out the sv.

dipshit
30th July 2008, 20:16
Where's my 100hp 900ish (any number of cylinders) with a 10k redline, heaps of torque, the best boingers, half a fairing, decent seat and 165kg dry weight? Might have to bore out the sv.

Or get the thou and send it to Weight Watchers. Under 180kgs is easy.

Stormer
30th July 2008, 20:47
If you`re confident enough get a 1000...there`s no way you`ll get bored with it quickly.
Most 1000`s are not that much bigger than 750`s or whatever now anyway.
The only thing that held me back before was the price.

madandy
30th July 2008, 22:12
K4/5/6 750 would my pick if I were in your situation and the bike I'd step up to from my Duc if I were so lucky.
Its a fine blend.

justsomeguy
31st July 2008, 12:54
If its about the bike, get the thou, if its about your riding, get a 6.

It's about both. 6's are great, don't feel rich enough to live at 12,000rpm. Want a bike that doesn't need to be thrashed. Riding a thou in 2nd-3rd gear in a lot easier on the engine.

Looks like the K4/K5 750 sometime next year.

svr
31st July 2008, 13:00
It's about both. 6's are great, don't feel rich enough to live at 12,000rpm. Want a bike that doesn't need to be thrashed. Riding a thou in 2nd-3rd gear in a lot easier on the engine.

Looks like the K4/K5 750 sometime next year.

Thats all psychological!
How many people wear out their modern 600s?
I agree tho about not wanting to rev a bike all the time - its just hard on your nerves (and the hangover). Most people would rather surf a torque curve, and have roll-on power rather than having to cog down a couple to find some go.

Coyote
31st July 2008, 14:35
Good vid.
A K6 is too old?! Wankers

Coyote
31st July 2008, 14:42
I'd go for a 1000. Fuck the police, fuck anyone that says it's too much power, fuck you, fuck everything!

svr
31st July 2008, 17:11
I'd go for a 1000. Fuck the police, fuck anyone that says it's too much power, fuck you, fuck everything!

Like it. If there were no cops I'd buy a big nasty fire-breather too. They actually make a lot of sense at 160+.
The cops have ruined biking - now we buy shit like BMWs, retros, harleys, trail bikes and sv's so we can have `fun' at 120ish.

Brett
31st July 2008, 18:31
It's about both. 6's are great, don't feel rich enough to live at 12,000rpm. Want a bike that doesn't need to be thrashed. Riding a thou in 2nd-3rd gear in a lot easier on the engine.

Looks like the K4/K5 750 sometime next year.

I think that that is a good idea. I think the 750 is an awesome bike.

Coyote
31st July 2008, 20:16
Like it. If there were no cops I'd buy a big nasty fire-breather too. They actually make a lot of sense at 160+.
The cops have ruined biking - now we buy shit like BMWs, retros, harleys, trail bikes and sv's so we can have `fun' at 120ish.
Fucking fucks aye? Fuck!

justsomeguy
1st August 2008, 12:10
Thats all psychological!
How many people wear out their modern 600s?
I agree tho about not wanting to rev a bike all the time - its just hard on your nerves (and the hangover).

Are you the guy slightly mature bloke who I met at a few KB track trackdays? I think we swept the hairpin at the old track for one of those days? With the yellow older SV650 who makes it behave like a Gixxer thou? Smooth riding mate :)

I don't drink so don't have hangovers.

I bought my 04 ZX636 with 9XXXkms and it was mint - seriously, beautifully, breathtakingly, awesomely, sexily mint. 6 months, 10,000kms, 15-20+ KB road races (I mean rides cunstable) and 4 track days later the bike felt OLD. The throttle had more play in it. There were definitely more rattles and the engine didnt seem as willing. The bike was serviced twice during this period by Botany Honda - I know those guys personally and they have looked after me for 2 years. The oil was changed three times and the chain cleaned and oiled after every ride.

Cajun
1st August 2008, 12:13
might just be ya bike my 04 600 at 50,000kms still goes fucken well. Had someone ride it who had a 05 zx6r race bike, and he said my 600 goes better than his zx6r did.

Its not really class as standard now tho my bike

jrandom
1st August 2008, 12:19
6 months, 10,000kms, 15-20+ KB road races (I mean rides cunstable) and 4 track days later the bike felt OLD. The throttle had more play in it. There were definitely more rattles and the engine didnt seem as willing.

You get that. Things coke up in the engine, valve stems stretch a wee bit and fuck up the airflows, throttle cable stretches a bit and needs adjustment and/or lubing, air filter gets dirty... all sorts of things.

My bike definitely doesn't like spending all week popping and farting its way around town in second gear, f'rinstance. It ran shitloads better on the way home from the last drag day at Meremere than it did on the way down.

svr
1st August 2008, 12:53
Are you the guy slightly mature bloke who I met at a few KB track trackdays? I think we swept the hairpin at the old track for one of those days? With the yellow older SV650 who makes it behave like a Gixxer thou? Smooth riding mate :)

Nup. Got a red one that goes faster than that yellow one.

I don't drink so don't have hangovers.

You've lost me there.

I bought my 04 ZX636 with 9XXXkms and it was mint - seriously, beautifully, breathtakingly, awesomely, sexily mint. 6 months, 10,000kms, 15-20+ KB road races (I mean rides cunstable) and 4 track days later the bike felt OLD. The throttle had more play in it. There were definitely more rattles and the engine didnt seem as willing. The bike was serviced twice during this period by Botany Honda - I know those guys personally and they have looked after me for 2 years. The oil was changed three times and the chain cleaned and oiled after every ride.

Hard to believe. Most bikes are better at 10k?! Maybe throw it on a dyno and ask the operator if its making the right number?
My impression is that people baby their bikes and fret when they thrash them (then sell them at 12k anyway...) Its the exact application they have been designed (and tested) for right? They love it.

justsomeguy
1st August 2008, 13:26
Hard to believe. Most bikes are better at 10k?! Maybe throw it on a dyno and ask the operator if its making the right number?
My impression is that people baby their bikes and fret when they thrash them (then sell them at 12k anyway...) Its the exact application they have designed (and tested) for right? They love it.

Haha - No the bike didn't have 10,000kms - After 6 months it had around 19,000kms on the clock. I'm not that great a rider but I did my best keeping the tach between 12-14Krpm

It was a good bike http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=42634

justsomeguy
1st August 2008, 14:12
You get that. Things coke up in the engine, valve stems stretch a wee bit and fuck up the airflows, throttle cable stretches a bit and needs adjustment and/or lubing, air filter gets dirty... all sorts of things.

My bike definitely doesn't like spending all week popping and farting its way around town in second gear, f'rinstance. It ran shitloads better on the way home from the last drag day at Meremere than it did on the way down.


And the solution is?

Educational question.

jrandom
1st August 2008, 14:13
And the solution is?

Pedal to work, save the motorcycle for Proper Riding (tm)?

boomer
1st August 2008, 14:26
And the solution is?

Educational question.


Why the fook would you ask Jrandom what the answer is.. hes about as skilled in the art of motorcyling as i am in Panda wrangling...

justsomeguy
1st August 2008, 14:28
Pedal to work, save the motorcycle for Proper Riding (tm)?

I don't commute. Get serious or I'll have boomer rape you - with his Honda background you don't stand a chance:angry2:

jrandom
1st August 2008, 14:31
Why the fook would you ask Jrandom what the answer is.. hes about as skilled in the art of motorcyling as i am in Panda wrangling...

What's the point of putting me on your ignore list if you just run around responding to everyone who quotes me in their posts?

:blink:

jrandom
1st August 2008, 14:34
I don't commute.

I do, and that's my solution to the problem.


Get serious or I'll have boomer rape you

It's not rape if I don't say no.

:love:

munterk6
1st August 2008, 20:45
Grow some shoulders and get a thou! The low-end torque is where its at for the road. No heavier than the others in real world terms. But the power is always there....:laugh:

justsomeguy
2nd August 2008, 03:45
Grow some shoulders and get a thou! The low-end torque is where its at for the road. No heavier than the others in real world terms. But the power is always there....:laugh:

What are the stronger shoulders for? My gixxer thou felt as easy as the 636 to ride.

beyond
4th August 2008, 20:38
Get a real sportsbike.
You want low end torque?
Fun in the corners?
Great handling for the weight?
Speed?
Comfort all day long?
Happy pillion?
Lazy when you want?
Happy to play when you want?

One answer:












GSX1400 :) :2thumbsup: :bleh:

enigma51
4th August 2008, 20:39
Get a real sportsbike.
You want low end torque?
Fun in the corners?
Great handling for the weight?
Speed?
Comfort all day long?
Happy pillion?
Lazy when you want?
Happy to play when you want?

One answer:












GSX1400 :) :2thumbsup: :bleh:

Only if you ride it!

beyond
4th August 2008, 20:42
Only if you ride it!


Well I would if it wasn't bloody raining all the time :(

Don't mind riding if caught out in it but don't intentionally set out for a ride in the rain if I can help it :)

R1madness
4th August 2008, 21:32
they are all great fun. All just about as fast as each other "on the road". Mostly it comes down to the rider. Sure a 600 will lose out a little on the strait bits but gain a little mid corner. So it depends how you like your eggs cooked. Grunt or revs its all great fun.
When i had my R1 a mate had a R6. Could never shake him in the tight stuff. Then he brought a NEW R1 (5 years newer than mine). But while he had better brakes, motor, chassis he found it hard to shake me. I felt comfortable on mine he felt overpowered. 80% is too fast on the road and you need to be using more than that to shake one or the other.

AllanB
4th August 2008, 22:23
Hmmm considering you described yourself as a IDIOT three times in your opening I'd suggest you spend your money on a rider training course or two.



Then get a thou...............

fatzx10r
5th August 2008, 06:32
Hmmm considering you described yourself as a IDIOT three times in your opening I'd suggest you spend your money on a rider training course or two.



Then get a thou...............

who, are you talking about?

AllanB
5th August 2008, 07:33
who, are you talking about?

The person who started it all - post number 1 :laugh:

I love thou's. But being an idiot I need more time on a smaller bike before I can be an idiot on a thou (as I found out the hard way).

The next best bike so far to me seems like a K4/K5 Gixxer750. Won't spend more than Au$10K on a bike I will crash sooner or later, with you know, me being an idiot and all that. Anything else is too expensive, the cheapest bike in this class is the K3/K4 GSXR1000 - which offers hard to resist bang for your buck.

More than 6 months away from saving up, so just sharing thoughts here.

Dakara
5th August 2008, 11:45
Where's my 100hp 900ish (any number of cylinders) with a 10k redline, heaps of torque, the best boingers, half a fairing, decent seat and 165kg dry weight?
Might have to bore out the sv.

Where's yours? Where's mine dammit! (but full fairings not half :rolleyes:)

Once I'm out of plaster I will no longer be able to afford the bike I had originally intended, (08 CBR600RR) as while I'm on ACC this time off work is still costing me and it's coming out of my "New Bike" fund :argh:

However, while I fell in love with the CBR, after some thought it's probably not the ideal bike for me. I love sprot bikes, and enjoy hitting the twisties now and again, but I also use my bike to commute and the most enjoyable riding for me is heading off for the day 2up with the Mrs. Unfortunately, the closest thing I can find to what I want that doesn't make me wanna put a paper bag over it (meaning the bike) before riding is a Busa :crazy:

Think I'm gonna settle for an 05-06 ZX636 :whistle:

enigma51
5th August 2008, 11:54
Where's yours? Where's mine dammit! (but full fairings not half :rolleyes:)

Once I'm out of plaster I will no longer be able to afford the bike I had originally intended, (08 CBR600RR) as while I'm on ACC this time off work is still costing me and it's coming out of my "New Bike" fund :argh:

However, while I fell in love with the CBR, after some thought it's probably not the ideal bike for me. I love sprot bikes, and enjoy hitting the twisties now and again, but I also use my bike to commute and the most enjoyable riding for me is heading off for the day 2up with the Mrs. Unfortunately, the closest thing I can find to what I want that doesn't make me wanna put a paper bag over her before riding is a Busa :crazy:

Think I'm gonna settle for an 05-06 ZX636 :whistle:


1400 bandit is the bike for me if you wanna a commuter/pllion and twistie killer!

Dakara
5th August 2008, 12:08
1400 bandit is the bike for me if you wanna a commuter/pllion and twistie killer!

Yea, I have a fairing fetish though :love: Naked or half naked bikes just don't appeal to me, the SV1000SK7 is halfway there. The GSF1250SATK8 doesn't look to bad either but is out of my new price range... also I don't really like high bars. Believe it or not I have no problems riding around all day in the fetal (sprot) position...

pzkpfw
5th August 2008, 12:33
I love sprot bikes, and enjoy hitting the twisties now and again, but I also use my bike to commute and the most enjoyable riding for me is heading off for the day 2up with the Mrs. Unfortunately, the closest thing I can find to what I want that doesn't make me wanna put a paper bag over her before riding is a Busa

You can always put Busa mirrors on the bike that you do buy.

Dakara
5th August 2008, 12:40
You can always put Busa mirrors on the bike that you do buy.

I was meaning a Bag over the bike not my Mrs, I'm more than happy to look at her all day :love:

I like the Busa simply because it has the sportsbike look and ride position that I love, but is tuned to have plenty of low down torque for touring at relatively low RPM... the things just too damn fast for me though, and my throttle control isn't quite ready for it. But all the other sport tourers I find to be pretty fugly! Apart from a VFR, but not sure about the Vtec.