What is BD riding?

[Big Dave]

Its a lot of fun.
Some of the best fun I've had on a vehicle.
It's also quite unique.

[Crisis management]

Bmw 800 gs?

[madbikeboy]

Big Dave isn't riding helen clark, she's the opposite of fun.

[Big Dave]

bigger - much bigger.



..............

[Big Dave]

Big Dave isn't riding helen clark, she's the opposite of fun.


And she gives me a soft-on.

[SPman]

One of those 3 wheeled thingys - a Spider, perhaps?

[bully]

looks like hes trying to boost his post count,

[Big Dave]

SP man wins early!

[vifferman]

I saw one of dem, a couple of weekends ago in Roundabouta or somesuch.
Can't remember now - just remember seeing it on a trailer somewhere.



It was yeller though.



Not that has anything to do with anything.

[Ixion]

Thazz nodda two stroke!

N' it's just a jackoff copy of a Morgan, with some modern bling tacked on.

[TOTO]

looks hot...

What is it ? How much is it ?

[madbikeboy]

And she gives me a soft-on.

It looks as much fun as riding helen.... :buggerd:

[jrandom]

Was that you pootling about the Viaduct on that thing?

[Stickchick]

So BD, was that you that was riding it on Halsey Street on Friday night about 5.30ish?

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Jetski with wheels?

[TOTO]

Aparently , its called a SPIDER (http://spyder.brp.com/en/) :drool:

[Dave-]

it looks like a jet ski with wheels...

[vifferman]

it looks like a jet ski with wheels...
Nah, it's a snowmobile with wheels. :headbang:

[SPman]

Over here they're $27,990 and Midland Suzuki have sold 8, already!

[jrandom]

Hmm. Just read the brochure. I wanna go!

I bet you could pretty much pin the throttle on that thing everywhere and just let the rear wheel sort itself out.

:D

[vifferman]

Hmm. Just read the brochure. I wanna go!


I'd pay good money to see you lanespilt on it.
If you had a licence, that is... :bye:

[Big Dave]

Yes to all of the above. I've also done Maraitai and Woodcocks.

Can-Am Spyder.
I've been smuggling for an anology, like Ix's Morgan thing, but it's not - it's got a 990 Rotax with a race pipe that sounds SUPERB. Taction control - VERY impressive suspension.

It's not a motorcycle. Save that bleat. It's not a car either.

It is a Spyder. And open road motoring is very exhilarating.

The full yarn will be in Kiwi Rider of course.

[Big Dave]

If you do take one - It has to be a good ride.

It's like a quad - but it's not. It's a mind fart to a motorcyclist for at least an hour. It took me a tankful before the mojo.

When the penny drops however. Fark. It is some serious fun.

[jrandom]

I'd pay good money to see you lanespilt on it.

It wouldn't fuckin' fit.

I don't care, though. It's a pure toy. I see that thing and I want to do SH22 on it.

[jrandom]

If you do take one - It has to be a good ride.

It's like a quad - but it's not.

I have quite a distinct image in my mind of what it would be like to ride. Halfway between hanging off and weighting the outside peg in corners, and oversteering on the power like a RWD car.

I might try to line up one of these for a returned-licence test-ride celebration alongside the XR1200 (if anyone will give me the key to one, that is).

[TOTO]

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[Big Dave]

This unit has foot shift and hand clutch. Linked foot brakes.

[TOTO]

Do you need a car licence to ride it or a bike licence ?

[Big Dave]

Full bike licence.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'd love to have a go on one for giggles.

Does it do mad stoppies (like th Piaggio MP3). And does the traction control mean you can't light it up and powerslide it everywhere ... big rear tyre though.

Did it freak you out in your first few corners with the whole "leaning the wrong way" thing?

[Big Dave]

It freaked me out for the first tank of gas - in a challenging and enjoyable way. But WTF as well.

By the 3rd tank of gas I went over Woodcocks hill in the prevailing conditions far more comfortably than on a motorcycle.

The trick is you drop the other knee than normal - but it takes a while to get your head around.

When you do - very exhilarating.

Car drivers wouldn't have the same mind-fart to contend with.

"We have just had confirmation that these units can be ridden on a Car License as they can be in the US and Europe."

[avgas]

i liked the concept but to me it just looks ugly - especially considering the good looking competition its up against.

[Big Dave]

i liked the concept but to me it just looks ugly - especially considering the good looking competition its up against.

Have you seen it in the flesh. Ugly it ain't.

Comical, organic, totally weird, trippin', James Bond, but mostly 'wow', are the types of things people say about it in person.

[jrandom]

"We have just had confirmation that these units can be ridden on a Car License as they can be in the US and Europe."

I'll be looking for a few to turn up on the Star Insurance $1 Reserve Auctions on TardMe within a fortnight of release then...

[Big Dave]

I'll be looking for a few to turn up on the Star Insurance $1 Reserve Auctions on TardMe within a fortnight of release then...

I don't think drivers will have as much trouble 'adjusting' to it as riders, but it opens up the market somewhat.

[jrandom]

I don't think drivers will have as much trouble 'adjusting' to it as riders, but it opens up the market somewhat.

I'm not thinking so much of the precise physical dynamics and control inputs of the machine, but rather the mental familiarity with the level of concentration required to maintain control of it at the performance level it's capable of.

Most car drivers have never entered that zone.

[Big Dave]

I'm not thinking so much of the precise physical dynamics and control inputs of the machine, but rather the mental familiarity with the level of concentration required to maintain control of it at the performance level it's capable of.

Most car drivers have never entered that zone.

Take your point. By the third tank of gas I'd call control intuitive - but the cranial activity for the set up is intense - more than a bike at the moment. Familiarity and all that.
I'm not going to have it long enough to see how long that novelty lasts.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/52isntbigenough/top.jpg

[jrandom]

Most important question.

Can you turn the traction control off?

[Swoop]

Those are some serious grab handles. Female pillions, with plenty of "booty", have been well catered for.

[Big Dave]

Most important question.

Can you turn the traction control off?

You don't need to. It 'appears' to only effect the front. ie come into play if the front looks like breaking loose.
Just researching it now.

[Big Dave]

Those are some serious grab handles. Female pillions, with plenty of "booty", have been well catered for.

No - they are needed by all - think car - and sliding across a bench seat.

[TOTO]

cAR lICENCE - i'M TAKING ONE UP FOR A RIDE ASAP... :drool:

[jrandom]

effect the front...

Big Dave!

'Effect'?

Out here on the perimeter, there are no sub-editors.

:nono:

[Big Dave]

??

effect |iˈfekt|
noun
1 a change that is a result or consequence of an action or other cause

[jrandom]

effect |iˈfekt|
noun

Exactly.

You were using it as a verb - you meant 'affect'.

[oldrider]

It is different, it is interesting, it is exciting and it probably really performs but it is "not" a motorcycle so it is still stuck in traffic.

Shit you must really hate your job! :eek5: John.

["D" FZ1]

I had a look at them at Big Boys Toys last year. I want one. How about you swing by the Waikato on your next test ride Dave and I will swap you for a ride on a new Yammy :niceone:

[Big Dave]

Nope. Means exactly what I said it means.

[EJK]

Looks alright... At the price range of around $30,000 seems we will see it commonly on the road soonish... Unlike the other 3 wheeled vehicle we discussed and critisized about some months ago... Forgot the name of that thing...

["D" FZ1]

Nope. Means exactly what I said it means.

Don't like sharing your toys aye :nono:

[jrandom]

Nope. Means exactly what I said it means.


It 'appears' to only effect the front...

effect
–verb (used with object)
to produce as an effect; bring about; accomplish; make happen

The traction control does not bring about, accomplish, make happen, the front end of the vehicle.

It:

affect
–verb (used with object)
to act on; produce an effect or change in

^ does that to it.

[shafty]

Don't like sharing your toys aye :nono:

I think Dave was responding to jrandoms nit picking Mate, not your proposal..........

[jrandom]

jrandoms nit picking

I only pick the nits because I like the hairs to be clean before I split 'em.

[mouldy]

All the bad points of a car and a bike rolled into one , can,t get trough traffic and you still get wet , only any good for doughnuts

[Forest]

"We have just had confirmation that these units can be ridden on a Car License as they can be in the US and Europe."

Are you absolutely sure about that?

Over in Australia the Federal Government has issued a ruling that they need a full bike license to ride.

[Big Dave]

And apart from that - I still don't agree.
It's effected by the traction control whereas what the traction control does is an affect.

Next.

[Big Dave]

Don't like sharing your toys aye :nono:

Wasn't talking to you big nose.

I have to hand it over to Ross tomorrow unfortunately.

[Big Dave]

It is different, it is interesting, it is exciting and it probably really performs but it is "not" a motorcycle so it is still stuck in traffic.

Shit you must really hate your job! :eek5: John.

Yes to all of the above - except the last bit.

[Big Dave]

Are you absolutely sure about that?

.

The quotation marks are from the NZ Manager BRP this afternoon.

[Oscar]

Wasn't talking to you big nose.

I have to hand it over to Ross tomorrow unfortunately.

Tell him you'll need a Waikato viewpoint....

[kave]

Lets face it, this is a relatively old concept, three wheelers have been around for years and they have never been any good.

[Big Dave]

Tell him you'll need a Waikato viewpoint....

It has a reverse - but it's not a time machine.

[Big Dave]

Lets face it, this is a relatively old concept, three wheelers have been around for years and they have never been any good.

Nice - Cue Mr Bean clips.
None of them have been arse about like this though.

[kave]

None of them have been arse about like this though.
You are quite wrong....BEHOLD!!

[Oscar]

It has a reverse - but it's not a time machine.

Feh.


An extra wheel might improve your riding...:baby:

[Big Dave]

You are quite wrong....BEHOLD!!

Goggomobile!

This is one of the most successful and popular advertisements in Aus media history.

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True - what I was meaning was nothing with a high performance motor has been arse about like this though - Trikes etc.

And the traction control systems I'm just reading about on the other screen.

[Big Dave]

Posted this before too - don't worry - be happy.

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[Big Dave]

Feh.


An extra wheel might improve your riding...:baby:

You own the dirt.
The bitumen is mine.:scooter:

[Oscar]

You own the dirt.
The bitumen is mine.

Nah - we been running the unofficial Knobbly GP over the Raglan Divvy fer years. Amazing what a YZ250 with enduro gearing will do the road.



Coming down for the WRC?
We should make a "Lost Weekend" out of it...hmmmm...there's a thought.

[Big Dave]

Coming down for the WRC?
We should make a "Lost Weekend" out of it...hmmmm...there's a thought.

The pace some of those 650 singles can carry now is ferkin amazing.

Last couple of katooms and that bimmer have made me reassess how harsh singles are.

A burn would be good.
WRC - nah mate - really not into it.

[Oscar]

The pace some of those 650 singles can carry now is ferkin amazing.

Last couple of katooms and that bimmer have made me reassess how harsh singles are.

A burn would be good.
WRC - nah mate - really not into it.

You dunae havtae look at the cars - it's following the course afterwards that's the hoot.

[Big Dave]

You dunae havtae look at the cars - it's following the course afterwards that's the hoot.

I see........when is it?

[Oscar]

I see........when is it?

End of August.

[Edbear]

it looks like a jet ski with wheels...


Nah, it's a snowmobile with wheels. :headbang:


A bit o' both, and a real cool machine!


Have you seen it in the flesh. Ugly it ain't.

Comical, organic, totally weird, trippin', James Bond, but mostly 'wow', are the types of things people say about it in person.

I like it!?


Lets face it, this is a relatively old concept, three wheelers have been around for years and they have never been any good.

But that one wuz wrong way around...


You are quite wrong....BEHOLD!!

They wuz cute!

[Krayy]

Goggomobile!

This is one of the most successful and popular advertisements in Aus media history.
....
And the perfect context thanks to the D Generations "The Late Show"

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[vifferman]

And apart from that - I still don't agree.
It's effected by the traction control whereas what the traction control does is an affect.

Next.
Sorry, BD - jrandom is correct, and you're trying to defend an indefensible position.
Either you're saying the traction control makes the front end (makes it what?), or you're saying the traction control operation is triggered/enabled/activated by what the the front end is doing.
Either way, you need to either reword that sentence, or change 'effect' to 'affect'. Makes no sense otherwise.

So....
It should either say, "It 'appears' to only affect the front. ie come into play if the front looks like breaking loose." (Which makes perfect sense).
The effect of the traction control only kicks in when the front starts to break loose, and only affects the back.

Or (and this would only work if it were front-wheel drive):
"It (the traction control) 'appears' to only effect drive to the front . ie come into play if the front looks like breaking loose."

Or, if it were ABS, and not traction control:
It 'appears' to only effect the retardation of the front brakes. ie come into play if the front looks like breaking loose.

(Well... someone has to nitpick grammar now that Hitcher's on vacation...)

[Big Dave]

I'm not defending anything - I'm saying it has no effect on the performance.

Otherwise get fucked OK. :done:

[vifferman]

I'm not defending anything - I'm saying it has no effect on the performance.
No affect on the performance. :nono:


Otherwise get fucked OK. :done:
Your place or mine, big boy?

[Ixion]

None of them have been arse about like this though.

So, woz this then ? 1000cc V twin, supercharged versions availbale if that's not enough, won just about every hill climb in the book in its day.

[vifferman]

So, woz this then ? 1000cc V twin, supercharged versions availbale if that's not enough, won just about every hill climb in the book in its day.
There have been some modern versions of that produced too (replicas) with Harley engines as the donk.

[Ixion]

Well, yes, but the Attenuated One did specify "performance"
However, there HAVE been modern replicas with big Guzzi engines. WOuld might be fun.

But the original was a full blown mass production (well, mass by Morgan standards) jobby

[Big Dave]

No affect on the performance. :nono:

Your place or mine, big boy?

Funnily enough it's the third time I've had the same argument. It has no effect.

Call it speaking Aussie, because that is the way 'we' do it.

Just like saying 70's. We use the apostrophe because it's an abbreviation.

[Big Dave]

So, woz this then ? 1000cc V twin, supercharged versions availbale if that's not enough, won just about every hill climb in the book in its day.

You didn't 'Ride' it. Sat innit. Perchad atop the gee forces is significantly different to sitting in.

[vifferman]

Funnily enough its the third time I've had the same argument. It has no effect.

Call it speaking Aussie, because that is the way 'we' do it.
I see.

So... you're saying, in effect, "Forgive me, Yer Honor [sic] - it may have appeared I was writing in English - it was Strine, but. Crack open a stubbie, willya?"

The effect in effect did not affect the effect of the affected effect.