Gear Indicator

[Cajun]

I am tossing up idea of making my own gear indicator, why cause i can, and something different.

unsure if i head down the number route or use leds to show 1-6 gears

aka the two styles


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Or another long term opinion is actually building it in the dash

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have seen a number one in the dash also underneth the tacho area

[Patch]

I am tossing up idea of making my own gear indicator

unsure if i head
surely you must be off the dialup by now or on something else. Nothing worse than h.l. a s.n.t.n.e




edit: I'd be more worried why I need a gadget to tell me what gear I'm in

[skelstar]

Be curious to know how you'll do it. Switches sensing the gear change? ... or a micro working out your speed/revs ratio to calculate the gear.

[Cajun]

Be curious to know how you'll do it. Switches sensing the gear change? ... or a micro working out your speed/revs ratio to calculate the gear.

suzuki a certian ohm, tells you what gear you are in, aka when you put a 2800ohm resistor in tells you in 5th gear sorta thing(TRE)

found a couple of schematic for suzuki based ones, so give it a go

[skelstar]

Bah! ... that sounds too easy :)

[Cajun]

Bah! ... that sounds too easy :)

yeah, not to hard to start off with, i got a few things i want to do my way.

and then long term wiring in to the dash be interesting if i go down that route be complex

[dhunt]

Of the two I think the digit one might be the more practical but a bit hard to say. You should have fun anyway :niceone:

Which ever way you do it it might pay to make sure it's not too bright or adjustable brightness???. I find the fuel LED on mine really annoying riding at night cause it's so bright.

[shafty]

Agree with dhunt - brightness is def a consideration - the ST has a dimmer on its instrumentation, and so does my RADAR display - when things get dark, bright LEDS etc really suck your periphial vision.

Great idea tho Cajun, - the # of times I try for another gear cos its pulling so easily.....

I prefer the line of lights - the digit display looks a bit cheap IMO

Good luck

[kiwifruit]

If you need to be told what gear you are in you shouldn't be riding :sweatdrop

[skelstar]

Prob with line of LEDs is that unless you can see which ones aren't turned on, its pretty hard to see which one is lit... esp when ambient light is dim/dark.

[michael]

Always contemplated putting in a gear indicator in, any chance you could let me know where you got that schematic.

[jrandom]

If you need to be told what gear you are in you shouldn't be riding

Uh.

Tell that to the MotoGP and Formula 1 guys?

Personally, I wouldn't mind just having an indicator LED that came on in first and top gear.

[Cajun]

If you need to be told what gear you are in you shouldn't be riding :sweatdrop
95% of time i do, normally when sorta being lazy crusing i forget, and being a 600 handy known what gear in if need to pass, and its just something different, no idea if i even like riding with one or not.


Always contemplated putting in a gear indicator in, any chance you could let me know where you got that schematic.

you got a k5 600/750?

[bully]

great idea dude, ill be keen for one,
i see you do seats too?

[johan]

Jaycar has a number of kits for rev indication, gear indication etc. It might be a good starting point for you. Most of them come with a light sensitive resistor that will dim the leds for you come darkness.

I'm building a gear change indicator from one of their kits at the moment. It's good fun!

[saul]

If you need to be told what gear you are in you shouldn't be riding :sweatdrop

I never knew how good they were till I got a girlz bike. :devil2:

Once you've had one you will never go back:drool:

Numbers for the indicators leds for the revs:devil2:

[boomer]

If you need to be told what gear you are in you shouldn't be riding :sweatdrop


surely you must be off the dialup by now or on something else. Nothing worse than h.l. a s.n.t.n.e




edit: I'd be more worried why I need a gadget to tell me what gear I'm in


I never knew how good they were till I got a girlz bike. :devil2:

Once you've had one you will never go back:drool:

Numbers for the indicators leds for the revs:devil2:


i'd be lost without mine; i've been toying with teh idea of getting a TRE but they all void the gear indicator; something i cant do without now.

i reckon numbers too..! alternatively just buy a girls bike

[dipshit]

i'd be lost without mine; i've been toying with teh idea of getting a TRE but they all void the gear indicator; something i cant do without now.

You should have got one of these...
http://www.gi-pro.net

Got one on my SV. It just plugs in and away you go.

[boomer]

You should have got one of these...
http://www.gi-pro.net

Got one on my SV. It just plugs in and away you go.

my k7 has a gear indicator integrated within the dash, call me stoopid but voiding that for a TRE and then adding another unit to show gears is a bit naff.... maybe im being retarded but i dont like the idea . I need someone to create a TRE for my bike that doesnt negate my indicator.


but churr anyhows

[Warr]

Jaycar has a number of kits for rev indication, gear indication etc. It might be a good starting point for you. Most of them come with a light sensitive resistor that will dim the leds for you come darkness.

I'm building a gear change indicator from one of their kits at the moment. It's good fun!
What kit are you refering to that would do the gear indication.
The GIPRO product is only good for bikes with EFI, which mine isnt.
For me I would be happy with a 1st gear / 6th gear indication.
No thinking about it.... I'd really want to know I was in 2nd so if the need arises I know I have to give the bike more revs to reduce the chance of rear wheel locking.

So a digital 1,2,3,4,5,6 would be my wish.
Anyone have any other links.

[dipshit]

I need someone to create a TRE for my bike that doesnt negate my indicator.

Shouldn't that be easy to do? Put the necessary resistor in one of the wires running back from the gear indicator to the ECU. That's if Suzuki has made it - gear position sensor to gear indicator to ECU. Or do they go - gear position sensor to ECU to gear indicator?

[justsomeguy]

I'd go with a number as to me it seems easier to process in a hurry.

A number is a single symbol. A series of dots needs to be counted, that takes too long. Even if you have them in different colours you need to learn what gear (number) each colour represents.

Whereas you've been learning to recognize numbers since you were a baby.

my 2c.

Why the hell do you need a gear indicator anyway? Should you be able to hear the engine?

[boomer]

Shouldn't that be easy to do? Put the necessary resistor in one of the wires running back from the gear indicator to the ECU. That's if Suzuki has made it - gear position sensor to gear indicator to ECU. Or do they go - gear position sensor to ECU to gear indicator?

: possum stare :

[justsomeguy]

i'd be lost without mine;

WTF? You gone deaf or something???

It's not like you're a noob either...

[boomer]

Whereas you've been learning to recognize numbers since you were a baby.


lollies... says who???

[boomer]

WTF? You gone deaf or something?

yeah mate and blind.. too much :wanking:


liek anything.. you become lazy and reliant on things... :D takes away one less thing to think/worry about huh !!! how else do you think i got so fast.. i dont have to worry about anything other than going fast!!!!! ahhahahaha

[HungusMaximist]

I personally prefer the number.

Good on ya for trying Cajun.

[dipshit]

: possum stare :

Do you know how a TRE works? All it does is trick your bike into thinking that it is in top gear when in fact it may be only in 2nd. It does this by changing the resistance coming from the gear position sensor.

[boomer]

Do you know how a TRE works? All it does is trick your bike into thinking that it is in top gear when in fact it may be only in 2nd. It does this by changing the resistance coming from the gear position sensor.


yup.. but i forgot to go to school and electronicamagic isn't something i play with. I leave that to the darkies !

[vifferman]

What kit are you refering to that would do the gear indication.
The GIPRO product is only good for bikes with EFI, which mine isnt.
For me I would be happy with a 1st gear / 6th gear indication.
No thinking about it.... I'd really want to know I was in 2nd so if the need arises I know I have to give the bike more revs to reduce the chance of rear wheel locking.

So a digital 1,2,3,4,5,6 would be my wish.
Anyone have any other links.
I could find you one, if I wasn't supposed to be working madly so I can go on vacation. The last one I read a review of was a 'smart' one that learned what gear the bike was in from the revs and speed it was doing - so it needed only an input from the speedo and tachometer, both of which are electronic on your bike, aren't they?

EDIT: Pharkit - it was easy enough to find:
Acumen (http://www.riderstation.com/DG8.php)
Datatool (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Datatool_DiGi_Digital_Gear_Indicator--56-DIGI-1.html)
Biketronix (http://www.tildesign.nl/digital_motorcycle_gear_indicator-201071525)

[johan]

What kit are you refering to that would do the gear indication.
The GIPRO product is only good for bikes with EFI, which mine isnt.
For me I would be happy with a 1st gear / 6th gear indication.
No thinking about it.... I'd really want to know I was in 2nd so if the need arises I know I have to give the bike more revs to reduce the chance of rear wheel locking.

So a digital 1,2,3,4,5,6 would be my wish.
Anyone have any other links.

I'm pretty sure I saw a kit on the wall last time I was at Jaycar. I'll get the product # number for you next time I'm there.

I sold a Starlane gear indicator not too long ago if you're looking for a ready made device.
http://www.starlane.com/en_engear_engaged_gear_indicator_shift_light.htm

[The Pastor]

dosent u bike have a taco? (rev counter thingy)

[Warr]

I'm pretty sure I saw a kit on the wall last time I was at Jaycar. I'll get the product # number for you next time I'm there.

I sold a Starlane gear indicator not too long ago if you're looking for a ready made device.
http://www.starlane.com/en_engear_engaged_gear_indicator_shift_light.htm

If you spotted one at Jaycar, would be interested in the kit you were thinking of

That starlane one looks the bizo, but my mechanical speedo model isnt listed :(



EDIT: Pharkit - it was easy enough to find:
Yes last one looks interesting
- Taco electronic, but mechanical speedo on '90


renegade master - yes and lights

[Warr]

Mr johan......
Had a look through the Jaycar online catalogue of all their kits... Couldnt spot anything obvious

[johan]

Mr johan......
Had a look through the Jaycar online catalogue of all their kits... Couldnt spot anything obvious

Ok, I'm planning to go to Jaycar tomorrow. I'll have a look again and let you know if I was hallucinating or not.

cheers

[johan]

Here you are sir.
It comes with a hall sensor that I assume is used to get the speed from the wheel. It'll dim at night as well.

[hayd3n]

Here you are sir.
It comes with a hall sensor that I assume is used to get the speed from the wheel. It'll dim at night as well.

how much? is this suitable for most bikes??

[Warr]

Here you are sir.
It comes with a hall sensor that I assume is used to get the speed from the wheel. It'll dim at night as well.
Your the man ... I cant even find that on their site. So will call into a store and see what I can find.
Bling coming your way :)

[Warr]

Here you are sir.
It comes with a hall sensor that I assume is used to get the speed from the wheel. It'll dim at night as well.

The plot thickens........
I called into Jaycar today and.... KC5344 Gear Indicator Kit ~ $90 is a discontinued kit.
Man said their computer recons there are 8 in Wellington and is going to see if he can get one transferred up here :)