View Full Version : How NOT to unload a bulldozer from a flatbed...Graphic Pics
Bren
1st August 2008, 20:21
How NOT to unload a bulldozer from a flatbed...
Warning. This thread contains Contains Graphic images
Bren
1st August 2008, 20:23
Warning. Graphic Images Below
Poor bastard...
yod
1st August 2008, 20:26
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Coyote
1st August 2008, 20:35
The last pic is pretty damn creepy
Coyote
1st August 2008, 20:38
Man, why do I want to keep looking at the last one...
Switch
1st August 2008, 20:47
I bet he wont do that again.
That last pic is going to give me nightmares. The look on that dudes face
Coyote
1st August 2008, 20:52
I bet he wont do that again.
That last pic is going to give me nightmares. The look on that dudes face
What's left of it.
I can't help but feel morbidly intrigued.
Switch
1st August 2008, 20:53
What's left of it.
I can't help but feel morbidly intrigued.
I guess its human instinct to be interested in something we dont see very often. And in a way that doesnt seem very possibly in everyday life. (bits in half)
Bren
1st August 2008, 20:55
If I was him I would have paid a bit more attention in those Health and Safety courses...I guess that is one way to raise the average I.Q in the world...
Forest
1st August 2008, 21:20
The ambulance in the first pic seems a bit optimistic!
Poor bastard.
doc
1st August 2008, 21:27
If I was him I would have paid a bit more attention in those Health and Safety courses...I guess that is one way to raise the average I.Q in the world...
Don't know why you have to find this sort of stuff fascinating. Try it for real . You wont want to be showing it to people, you rather feel like protecting them from it. The countries most of this stuff comes from don't really have much in the way of H & S. Or any welfare system. :Oops:
scumdog
1st August 2008, 21:29
And the driver STILL has more brains than a lot of my 'clients':crazy:
ManDownUnder
1st August 2008, 21:30
If I was him I would have paid a bit more attention in those Health and Safety courses...I guess that is one way to raise the average I.Q in the world...
I'll bet it all happened so damned fast it could have been anyone. Been near something similar years ago... ain't a lot you could predict, or do about it once it starts. 20 tons of steel on the move isn't something you "just stop"
Poor bastard.
Bren
1st August 2008, 22:04
Don't know why you have to find this sort of stuff fascinating. Try it for real . You wont want to be showing it to people, you rather feel like protecting them from it. The countries most of this stuff comes from don't really have much in the way of H & S. Or any welfare system. :Oops:
Maybe it is a point of learning from others mistakes. In the industry I work in I am constantly involved with heavy machinery of one form or another, and there is always a risk involved. The best way to work in those situations is to try to reduce the risk as much as possible.
I'll bet it all happened so damned fast it could have been anyone. Been near something similar years ago... ain't a lot you could predict, or do about it once it starts. 20 tons of steel on the move isn't something you "just stop"
Poor bastard.
Sliding down a greasy wet hill sideways in a tractor is the closest I have been to rolling a vehicle, and I do agree once it starts you are basically just a passenger.
What gets me is the value some of these places put on human life. Look at the bearers they used to try to get the bulldozer on/off the truck...Snapped like matchsticks I bet. A decent steel ramp or a loading dock would have saved that poor guys life
Katman
1st August 2008, 22:59
Maybe it is a point of learning from others mistakes.
Yeah, everyone says that when backed into a corner.
(Especially the noobs that like to relate in graphic detail the story of their virgin 'off' because they think it gains them membership to some 'Bikers Club' and then fall back on the "as long as someone learns from my mistake" bullshit when someone breaks the news to them that they've just been riding like a fuckwit.)
Next time I'm moving a bulldozer I doubt I'll be thinking of some poor Chinaman who should have thrown a sickie that day.
Timber020
1st August 2008, 23:16
In my industry, graphic photos of injuries have been proven to make people more aware of the potential injury and work more carefully. I know they have made me safer.
Katman
1st August 2008, 23:21
Bah, graphic photos of injuries are just a freakshow.
Bren
1st August 2008, 23:22
In my industry, graphic photos of injuries have been proven to make people more aware of the potential injury and work more carefully. I know they have made me safer.
thank you...right on the money there...Safety is about knowing the consequences of actions, whether it be positive, or negative.
Bren
1st August 2008, 23:23
Bah, graphic photos of injuries are just a freakshow.
Dream on....and you sit behind a desk all day with the only risk at work being a paper cut or stapling your tie to the desk?
Katman
1st August 2008, 23:34
Dream on....and you sit behind a desk all day with the only risk at work being a paper cut or stapling your tie to the desk?
Yeah, maybe.
FJRider
1st August 2008, 23:38
thank you...right on the money there...Safety is about knowing the consequences of actions, whether it be positive, or negative.
They tried the photo's thing with smokes... :yawn:
FlangMasterJ
2nd August 2008, 00:17
Should have worn his hard hat.:nono:
munterk6
2nd August 2008, 00:33
That makes me feel kinda queezy, here's a pic that worried me a bit...
FlangMasterJ
2nd August 2008, 00:40
That makes me feel kinda queezy, here's a pic that worried me a bit...
Yikes!:sick:
Patch
2nd August 2008, 03:55
Sliding down a greasy wet hill sideways in a tractor is the closest I have been to rolling a vehicle, and I do agree once it starts you are basically just a passenger.
What gets me is the value some of these places put on human life. Look at the bearers they used to try to get the bulldozer on/off the truck...Snapped like matchsticks I bet. A decent steel ramp or a loading dock would have saved that poor guys life
Makes me wonder why a roll bar wasn't fitted.
Having had a tractor roll over, its not the most friendly experience I'd recommend. But it makes you a lot more careful/aware of the possibilities.
Maha
2nd August 2008, 10:10
So are we lead to beleive that...
1...This machine was unloaded by the 'guy' underneath?
2...The driver of this machine, unloaded it in a forward motion, not reverse.
3...That this machine did in fact, go beyond perpendicular? (the only way it could end up like it did)
4... To get this machine beyond perpendicular, would be a task on it is own, you would need a crain and chains (I note those two things are present)
5... It only squashed his head?
A very very well orchestrated Asian OSH scene.
ManDownUnder
2nd August 2008, 10:14
That makes me feel kinda queezy, here's a pic that worried me a bit...
That looks like a "bomb in the guys backpack scenario". If it was a crash (and I have no reason to doubt you) I'd be intererested to hear what actually happened.
bully
2nd August 2008, 10:14
damb, we have a tralior at work like that, bever tail,(no ramps as such) they are picks of things. we havnt fallen off yet. its just bad luck for him that its brand new and they take the cab and blade off for shipping. otherwise roll over protection is compulsery. and he wouldnt have been squashed.
MisterD
2nd August 2008, 10:42
So are we lead to beleive that...
1...This machine was unloaded by the 'guy' underneath?
2...The driver of this machine, unloaded it in a forward motion, not reverse.
3...That this machine did in fact, go beyond perpendicular? (the only way it could end up like it did)
4... To get this machine beyond perpendicular, would be a task on it is own, you would need a crain and chains (I note those two things are present)
5... It only squashed his head?
A very very well orchestrated Asian OSH scene.
I think you're right - I can't see how it could have rolled all the way over with no sign of any damage to the front or rear.
scumdog
2nd August 2008, 10:46
That makes me feel kinda queezy, here's a pic that worried me a bit...
Meh...as long as you're not a suicide bomber with Frank Spencer tendancies you should be right - hard to tell what happened, COULD be a bomb incident but with the oil, dirt and what appears to be extinguisher powder it's hard to say.
scumdog
2nd August 2008, 10:59
So are we lead to beleive that...
1...This machine was unloaded by the 'guy' underneath?
2...The driver of this machine, unloaded it in a forward motion, not reverse.
3...That this machine did in fact, go beyond perpendicular? (the only way it could end up like it did)
4... To get this machine beyond perpendicular, would be a task on it is own, you would need a crain and chains (I note those two things are present)
5... It only squashed his head?
A very very well orchestrated Asian OSH scene.
I wonder what the bloke that played the 'dead guy' got paid??
And how does he get a helmet to fit??:confused::blink:
R6_kid
2nd August 2008, 11:04
epic fail???
Must have been a fair bit of gene-o-kleen in the air that day.
Forest
2nd August 2008, 12:14
I think you're right - I can't see how it could have rolled all the way over with no sign of any damage to the front or rear.
I think he was reversing off the back of the trailer, onto the wharf.
When the CoG went over the back of the trailer the tractor would have done a sudden and dramatic backwards roll. This is consistent with the major damage to the top of the bulldozer which is shown in picture 4.
bully
2nd August 2008, 12:31
your spose to put blocks down because there are no ramps, there blocks were pittafull! if it had the weight of the blade on it he would have been ok, but seen as no blade backing it off,too smaller blocks creating a gap big enough to roll it backwards upside down.
moral of the story, if you have no blade on, at least get decent ramps.
tri boy
2nd August 2008, 12:37
Possibly, the dozer was being loaded onto the trailer, rather than off.
This could explain the end over end, as a bit too much throttle with no blade up front to counter balance it could roll it. The timber used to raise the meet point of ground-trailer was a pathetic effort that probably had alot to do with the out come.
Re gruesome safety images. They DO work. Especially the eye protection ones. But unfortunately there are muppets who think they know better.
I feel sorry for the deceased. He went to work alive, and went home in a box.
tri boy
2nd August 2008, 12:41
I think he was reversing off the back of the trailer, onto the wharf.
When the CoG went over the back of the trailer the tractor would have done a sudden and dramatic backwards roll. This is consistent with the major damage to the top of the bulldozer which is shown in picture 4.
A rear roll over is possible if the operator was using the inching pedal incorrectly. Possibly he "Angled" the tranmission. But if done in low, the drive would not allow it to free wheel.
Headbanger
2nd August 2008, 13:03
I love the way this place is populated by experts on everything.
Makes me wonder how many people so stuffed with superior knowledge have ever driven a Dozer, Let alone loaded or unloaded one, or Unloaded one that hadn't yet had its rops/fops, counterweight or arms/blade attached.
tri boy
2nd August 2008, 13:11
Who are you referring to headbanger?
Open grizzles like that leave you appearing as a know all yourself.
As for me, Mining, and heavy mechanical applications allows me put forward some reasonable comments.
How bout you?
By the way, you do not "drive" any earthmoving equipment.
You operate it. A little bit of knowledge passed to you from me.
FlangMasterJ
2nd August 2008, 14:24
I had a TONKA truck as a kid.
Headbanger
2nd August 2008, 14:26
I wasn't disputing anyones claims at driving any machinery, Only peoples claims that it was a setup. There is simply not enough information in the photos for such a claim, Hence I was asking what peoples background was to support that view.
For what its worth I have spent the better part of the last 20 years driving everything from Bobcats up top 50t excavators, Including the aforementioned bulldozers, as well as a few more obscure bits of gear.
Nowadays I don't drive the gear so much but I do train and supervise others, I'm also involved in the safety requirements/configuration of our gear, and do the investigations and reports on incidents at work.
But hey, Thanks for the little bit of "knowledge"passed on from you to me, I'll be certain to let out a little chuckle the next time I tell someone to go drive the nearest machine.
Now, I'm not trying to be a know it all, But I know enough not to make silly claims based on a couple of pictures.
Coyote
2nd August 2008, 14:53
And the driver STILL has more brains than a lot of my 'clients':crazy:
They'd have to be a bit off in the head to want to pay you for sex.
Only in the force for the uniform :Police:
(p/t)
bully
2nd August 2008, 15:27
yer, its actually a track type skider.... check it out, lol. normally a track type tractor(bulldozer) has the drive motor towards the rear more rather than about centre.
yes, he could have been putting it on rather than unloading.
inching pedal, interesting, iv allways called it a deaccelarator.
could be a term used overseas somewere. lol, funnys.
FJRider
2nd August 2008, 16:07
And going by the fact the writing on the crane, and the ambulance. And the colour of the police uniforms, it is Singapore, not China. I would have guessed they were loading, rather than unloading.
Patch
5th August 2008, 04:34
Hence I was asking what peoples background was to support that view
they're all experts on KB.
It ain't that difficult to spot who knows they're on about and who just posts random acts of dribble.
driving a dozer - funny
Mikkel
5th August 2008, 09:56
Poor fella - at least with head trauma on that scale it would have been over pretty quickly. Would have been nasty for the "clean-up-crew" though and I'm not guessing at an open-casket funeral either.
Dunno anything about bulldozers - but I have seen enough incredible stuff over the years to even consider that there a setup.
Street Gerbil
5th August 2008, 21:22
I didn't know you can pull a wheelie on a dozer.
Indiana_Jones
5th August 2008, 23:25
I think that's gonna have to be a closed casket funeral....
-Indy
FlangMasterJ
6th August 2008, 08:39
He'll never be the head of a major corporation.
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