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puddy
3rd August 2008, 21:36
Hi, Don't know shit about either of these bikes, but am wondering which bike is better............am interested in getting one of the two. Better on road, off road ...gravel, sand, mud/dirt,etc. Only ever owned sport bikes. Be gentle with me you Adventure Types ..it's my first time! :eek5:(They say you always remember your first time...)

sels1
3rd August 2008, 21:40
They are not too different, both will serve you well for adventure riding. A lot comes down to personal choice....and what comes along first at the right price!
Test ride some and see what you feel most comfortable on.

twotyred
3rd August 2008, 21:41
:Pokey::corn:

Quasievil
3rd August 2008, 22:10
KLR is the winner, I studied them both and take in the 420km range, the awesome wind rain protection and you cant go wrong.
Done 16,000 kms on mine now, no regrets no problems.

RedKLR650
4th August 2008, 02:01
Hi, Don't know shit about either of these bikes, but am wondering which bike is better............am interested in getting one of the two. Better on road, off road ...gravel, sand, mud/dirt,etc. Only ever owned sport bikes. Be gentle with me you Adventure Types ..it's my first time! :eek5:(They say you always remember your first time...)

Bit of a FORD / HOLDEN thing really - each has it's good and bad points......

I'm a fan of the KLR myself, but ask cooneyr and he'll tell you that DR's rule :bash:

Cheers, Stu

NordieBoy
4th August 2008, 07:43
The KLR is a heavier, water cooled, bigger tanked, more expensive, more roadie.
The DR is a lighter, air/oil cooled, smaller tanked, cheaper, more dirty.

Either will do basically anything you throw at them and anything you throw them at.

They both have huge aftermarket parts availability.

clint640
4th August 2008, 09:40
The KLR is a heavier, water cooled, bigger tanked, more expensive, more roadie.
The DR is a lighter, air/oil cooled, smaller tanked, cheaper, more dirty.
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Good summary. Another difference is size, the DR is smaller, & can be lowered easily for those that are short of leg. The KLR is taller & will fit big buggers better.

Cheers
Clint

cooneyr
4th August 2008, 10:43
Bit of a FORD / HOLDEN thing really - each has it's good and bad points......

I'm a fan of the KLR myself, but ask cooneyr and he'll tell you that DR's rule :bash:

Cheers, Stu

Keep up with the game Stu - I've got a heavy fat twin now that'll throw plenty of stones at ya :D

Re the KLR vs DR - what Nordie said Dirty DR or Roadie KLR but both will work in either situation reasonably well.

Cheers R

Crisis management
4th August 2008, 10:50
What everyone else has said really....DR's are shit loads better than KLRs :bleh:


Did I get that right?

Puddy, if your starting out in gravel riding your more than welcome to give me a call to talk about what "adventure riding" is or to take my DR for a ride.

PM me if interested.

Iain

RedKLR650
4th August 2008, 10:54
What everyone else has said really....DR's are shit loads better than KLRs :bleh:
Did I get that right? :msn-wink:
Iain

Except for the fact that the KLR comes standard with all the bits you'll need to buy later for the DR like a big tank etc :doh:

DR for the sprints :eek:

KLR for the marathons :-) :niceone:

Cheers, Stu

warewolf
4th August 2008, 12:25
The KLR has more 'touring' options fitted standard.

The DR is a 'blank canvas'. No unwanted extras standard, customise till your heart's content.

Gizzit
4th August 2008, 12:55
Don't listen to those "heavily biased" guys about which is the better, .... the KLR or the DR. Just take my totally unbiased advice .... and get the DR :wari:

TLDV8
4th August 2008, 13:27
The KLR has more 'touring' options fitted standard.

The DR is a 'blank canvas'. No unwanted extras standard, customise till your heart's content.


Sounds good to me,i chose the DR.
The small tank didn't worry me as that was easily changed for 600km range.
I think it depends what the prime use of the bike will be.
The DR will happily cruise at 120/130 kmh and the lighter weight is handy when the road surface is unpredictable.
A ride on both might be the plan.
I had looked at the DR650,KTM 640 and BMW 650 at first.

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cooneyr
4th August 2008, 15:29
Except for the fact that the KLR comes standard with all the bits you'll need to buy later for the DR like a big tank etc :doh:

DR for the sprints :eek:

KLR for the marathons :-) :niceone:

Cheers, Stu


.....The small tank didn't worry me as that was easily changed for 600km range.....

KLR has a bigger tank and a fairing but crappier suspension and brakes and is a couple of $k more. For the price of KLR you can get a DR, a 300 or 600km tank, a new seat and a screen (if you want one) and have better suspension and brakes.

The DR is a blank canvas but it is bloody cheep in comparison and all of the "issues" (fuel range etc) are very easy and cheaply addressed.

Cheers R

Kaituna
4th August 2008, 17:46
I love my DR650. Air cooled, easily fixed with #8 wire, nice hard seat to make you really man up. After adding about $800.00 worth of stuff like a bigger tank, 14t sprocket, Bark busters, D606 tyres, The thing totally rocks. Check out ADV Rider .com and do a search, DR's will dominate KLR's. But then again, as my old boss Bruce Scobie always told me,.."remember boy.... there is an ass for every seat".

puddy
4th August 2008, 17:49
Thank you Gentlemen you have answered my question. I have thrown my leg over both, and taken a DR for a brief ride, but they were both so different to what I normally ride (GSXR1000), that they kind of seemed the same to me. Thanks again! I think I will remember my first time!(fondly):laugh:

Kaituna
4th August 2008, 18:13
Good on ya puddy. I am sure that you made the right decision after some robust research and educated reading on the ADV rider site and will adopt a DR. Get a blue one. They go faster.

Padmei
4th August 2008, 19:39
I dont think you can go wrong with either. The style of bike takes a bit to get used to especially after your beast.

Just go by how much you wanna pay - Are DRs harder to come by?

Kaituna
4th August 2008, 20:06
Just go by how much you wanna pay - Are DRs harder to come by?[/QUOTE]

I "come" by my DR every time Im near it!:banana::laugh:

Padmei
4th August 2008, 21:12
Oh you're terrible... but I like you:love:

Quasievil
5th August 2008, 21:07
KLR has a bigger tank and a fairing but crappier suspension and brakes and is a couple of $k more. For the price of KLR you can get a DR, a 300 or 600km tank, a new seat and a screen (if you want one) and have better suspension and brakes.

The DR is a blank canvas but it is bloody cheep in comparison and all of the "issues" (fuel range etc) are very easy and cheaply addressed.

Cheers R

So buy a DR and turn it into a KLR ?
nothing wrong with the suspension or brakes on a KLR at all.

cooneyr
5th August 2008, 22:21
So buy a DR and turn it into a KLR ?
nothing wrong with the suspension or brakes on a KLR at all.

The tank and the screen are the only "KLR mods" to a DR. In every other way the DR is similar or better.

I never said the KLR suspension or brakes are crap, rather I said crappier than the DR i.e. in the same way the DR suspension and brakes are crappier than a 640LC4 A. OK I don't know first hand about the KLR's suspension and brakes (front brake) but there are enough posts suggesting that these are not top shelf items on the previous generation KLR.

I still recon the options are buy a previous generation klr and upgrade the brakes or buy a new KLR or buy a DR and upgrade the tank. The DR is still cheaper, more dirt worthy and what I'd rather have for the type of riding I do, or did - going to be interesting on the XTZ750:D

Cheers R

puddy
7th August 2008, 15:56
Good on ya puddy. I am sure that you made the right decision after some robust research and educated reading on the ADV rider site and will adopt a DR. Get a blue one. They go faster.
I bought a blue DR650K6 yesterday:done:. Less than 2000kms on it, dead standard. Still seems strange as fuck riding it. Sure I'll get used to it. Cheers.

jafar
7th August 2008, 16:09
I bought a blue DR650K6 yesterday:done:. Less than 2000kms on it, dead standard. Still seems strange as fuck riding it. Sure I'll get used to it. Cheers.

You could whip the wheels off your gixxer & put them on the DR to make it a motard. :msn-wink:

Crisis management
7th August 2008, 16:11
Congratulations, Blue ones are faster...

So, joining the melee on saturday for a ride to Kawhia then? See the Kawhia overnighter thread or be at the Autobahn, Papakura at 8.30 sat morning.

I'm just going down for the day so if you fancy christening the bike you're more than welcome to come.

Iain

Rosie
7th August 2008, 16:41
Congratulations, Blue ones are faster...

So, joining the melee on saturday for a ride to Kawhia then? See the Kawhia overnighter thread or be at the Autobahn, Papakura at 8.30 sat morning.

I'm just going down for the day so if you fancy christening the bike you're more than welcome to come.

Iain

*strokes chin thoughtfully* I think we need to have a newbie adventure ride in the vicinity of Auckland :shifty:

twotyred
7th August 2008, 17:13
*strokes chin thoughtfully* I think we need to have a newbie adventure ride in the vicinity of Auckland :shifty:

And Hellington!:Punk:

jafar
7th August 2008, 17:19
*strokes chin thoughtfully* I think we need to have a newbie adventure ride in the vicinity of Auckland :shifty:

cool, I'll bring the VTX :hug:

pete376403
7th August 2008, 17:19
Capital Coast Adventure is on again soon (30 months or so)

carver
7th August 2008, 17:27
KLR is the winner, I studied them both and take in the 420km range, the awesome wind rain protection and you cant go wrong.
Done 16,000 kms on mine now, no regrets no problems.

the DR is far better than the KLR, and i have OWNED both!
the DR is far more of a adventure bike, the KLR is just a shit road bike

Kaituna
7th August 2008, 20:08
Good on ya pudding! Rip out the snorkel and stick a 14 tooth front sprocket on the wee beasty, it'll feel more resplosive around town. Mine has bar risers, TAG bars, tupperware gas tank, 14 tooth sprocket, stebel Mutha fooker horn, bash plate, acerbis hand gaurds, no snorkel, D606 dunlop skins on the wheels. A bloody good fun package for the back roads of the Waikato.

Quasievil
7th August 2008, 21:41
the DR is far better than the KLR, and i have OWNED both!
the DR is far more of a adventure bike, the KLR is just a shit road bike

Oh fuck off carver a 179 km tank range is not an adventure bike. the KLR has far more adventure features than a DR stock and if I wanted to I can also modify the KLR to blow the DR away even further than I can now
For example of stock standard specs that make it better

Better luggage carrying
Better fuel range 428 kms
Better wind protection
Better headlights

Thats stock !! if you want any of the above on a DR get out your cheque book.

If you want a DR you MUST modify it alot to be in the same league, the DR standard is a lame attempt for a Adventure bike end of story.

The 2008 KLR is perfect for the road it has been modified extensively to improve the on road ride.

bring something to the table, some facts that tell me the DR in standard trim is better, what its a bit lighter ? is that it ? its a Adventure bike sonny not a MX bike lol

zeRax
7th August 2008, 21:49
eeek, nasty nickers :\

NordieBoy
7th August 2008, 22:52
stebel Mutha fooker horn

My Stebel died a dust and water death :(

NordieBoy
7th August 2008, 22:55
Oh fuck off carver a 179 km tank range is not an adventure bike. the KLR has far more adventure features than a DR stock and if I wanted to I can also modify the KLR to blow the DR away even further than I can now
For example of stock standard specs that make it better

Better luggage carrying
Better fuel range 428 kms
Better wind protection
Better headlights

Thats stock !! if you want any of the above on a DR get out your cheque book.

If you want a DR you MUST modify it alot to be in the same league, the DR standard is a lame attempt for a Adventure bike end of story.

The 2008 KLR is perfect for the road it has been modified extensively to improve the on road ride.

bring something to the table, some facts that tell me the DR in standard trim is better, what its a bit lighter ? is that it ? its a Adventure bike sonny not a MX bike lol

But the tank, seat, springs, DJ kit, screen is only about $1k on top of the purchase price and it's things you've done to it - personalised.

What is the purchase price of an '08 KLR?

Quasievil
8th August 2008, 07:23
But the tank, seat, springs, DJ kit, screen is only about $1k on top of the purchase price and it's things you've done to it - personalised.

What is the purchase price of an '08 KLR?

I Paid $8500 for mine new, spent nothing on it so far, its good out of the crate, I will however buy a centre stand and some panniers at some stage soon.
I will rest on the fact that both are good bikes cause they are, one needs more mods and thats all thats in it.
Carver typically was fishing so a reply was needed with some gusto.

wysper
8th August 2008, 07:45
I Paid $8500 for mine new, spent nothing on it so far, its good out of the crate, I will however buy a centre stand and some panniers at some stage soon.


Hey Quasi,

YOu are probably right about having to mod the DR to get it close to the KLR in some respects. But for me, like for a lot of us, the couple of k different in the purchase price can make a heap of difference. And modding it over time if fun and rewarding and doesnt seem so hard.

So DR for me.. but as others have said.. both bikes are great. But for me the DR wins on a bang for buck level :ride:

NordieBoy
8th August 2008, 08:32
I Paid $8500 for mine new, spent nothing on it so far, its good out of the crate, I will however buy a centre stand and some panniers at some stage soon.
I will rest on the fact that both are good bikes cause they are, one needs more mods and thats all thats in it.

They are both good at what they do.
They both need mods to cross over into the territory of the other.


Carver typically was fishing so a reply was needed with some gusto.

Mmmmmm gusto....
With a little cheese sauce and freshly baked bread.

GaZBur
8th August 2008, 10:24
Yep I agree. They both good but slightly different. For my purposes the DR is a little better but I don't do long distances. Lets be frank if we were richer the DR is more like the KTM and the KLR more like the BMW, both do a similar job for an HUGE amount less money. Kinda like the Holden v's Ford thing really - only those enthusiasts can see big differences - to me they are the same thing, just a car.
If it's of interest the DR has done over 25 speed events, a year and a half of commuting daily, a couple of trips and has never missfired or behaved badly, never cost anything but oil, brakepads, tyres and plugs and has been picked up off the tarmac, gravel and dirt at least a dozen times after the rider had a wee lie down with no real damage.
Starting to think the DR is a keeper!

MXNUT
8th August 2008, 12:47
Starting to think the DR is a keeper!

Of course its a keeper, its a Suzuki !!! :argue:

carver
8th August 2008, 19:03
Oh fuck off carver a 179 km tank range is not an adventure bike. the KLR has far more adventure features than a DR stock and if I wanted to I can also modify the KLR to blow the DR away even further than I can now
For example of stock standard specs that make it better

Better luggage carrying
Better fuel range 428 kms
Better wind protection
Better headlights

Thats stock !! if you want any of the above on a DR get out your cheque book.

If you want a DR you MUST modify it alot to be in the same league, the DR standard is a lame attempt for a Adventure bike end of story.

The 2008 KLR is perfect for the road it has been modified extensively to improve the on road ride.

bring something to the table, some facts that tell me the DR in standard trim is better, what its a bit lighter ? is that it ? its a Adventure bike sonny not a MX bike lol

wow...
sounds like a wonderful road bike.
i always got 200k to reserve on my DR...
wind protection? cause you ride those sorts of bikes so hard eh...
A DR would dick on a KLR on any gravel road, especially my old one.
headlights on the DR are all good.
the KLR is a whale anywhere but on the seal, a shit adventure bike, but a ok road bike in drag

pete376403
8th August 2008, 19:47
the DR is far better than the KLR, and i have OWNED both!
the DR is far more of a adventure bike, the KLR is just a shit road bike
Unless you owned the '08 KLR then your comparison is no longer valid. Kawasaki listen to the owners, looked at what was wrong and made the changes. The '08 is not the same bike as the '07 and earlier models. Brakes, wheels, suspension, fairing, seat, engine, exhaust, lights, electrics have been improved. All for around $150 over the cost of the previous model.

Meanwhile Suzuki changed the colour, but kept the price the same.

FWIW, my mates DR bought about 6 months before my KLR, cost $7995 at WMC. So far he's spent about $2k5 to add the same sort of features that the KLR at $9890 has as standard

puddy
8th August 2008, 20:40
You could whip the wheels off your gixxer & put them on the DR to make it a motard. :msn-wink:
Could do, but imagine the GSXR with the DR wheels!:pinch:

Quasievil
8th August 2008, 20:41
wow...
sounds like a wonderful road bike.
i always got 200k to reserve on my DR...
wind protection? cause you ride those sorts of bikes so hard eh...
A DR would dick on a KLR on any gravel road, especially my old one.
headlights on the DR are all good.
the KLR is a whale anywhere but on the seal, a shit adventure bike, but a ok road bike in drag

Wind Protection is a good thing even at 100kmph especially if covering a distance say Picton to Franz Joseph in one day (as I have twice) along with the wind comes rain protection this also is a good thing if travelling long distance ie welly to hammy in the rain (as I have twice) it is also good on the desert road at 6.30 am in June in icy conditions (as I have once) the KLR wind protection is also good for high speed runs of 140-150kmph for a hour n half on the western by pass (as I have three or more times) all that made wind protection of the KLR superior to no wind protection offered on the DR, that my friend is a qualified opinion.
saying (I quote) "a dr would dick a KLR on any gravel road" is talking out your arse as it depends on many things, that is not a qualified opinion, saying the KLR is a (I quote) " a shit adventure bike but a ok road bike in a drag" TRULY displays you havent got a clue what so ever, so you can now withdraw from the debate, you just lost.

jafar
8th August 2008, 20:45
Could do, but imagine the GSXR with the DR wheels!:pinch:

Or even better , a gixxer with a frame that doesn't break :devil2::lol:

puddy
8th August 2008, 20:46
*strokes chin thoughtfully* I think we need to have a newbie adventure ride in the vicinity of Auckland :shifty:
Sounds grand! I think I might (definitely) need to chuck on a bash plate and some of those handguard thingies. The stock handguard only stop the wind........probably need/want some other bits too, before I get off-road and CRASH!:weep:

puddy
8th August 2008, 20:51
Or even better , a gixxer with a frame that doesn't break :devil2::lol:
Mumble....mumble....mumble (never liked that guy!):cry:

NordieBoy
8th August 2008, 21:32
Could do, but imagine the GSXR with the DR wheels!:pinch:

Ummmmmmmm........

Kaituna
8th August 2008, 21:37
Sounds grand! I think I might (definitely) need to chuck on a bash plate and some of those handguard thingies. The stock handguard only stop the wind........probably need/want some other bits too, before I get off-road and CRASH!:weep:

Have you checked out Nordies Bash plate? I presume you pay fuel tax? I think it's your right to reposess a similar piece of bash plate material and fashion your own. Maybe Nordie can post a pic to show you? I was very impressed personally.

XF650
9th August 2008, 10:12
Could do, but imagine the GSXR with the DR wheels!:pinch:

Well it might have a DR front wheel. Saw this beast at the first Burt Munro Challenge.

carver
9th August 2008, 11:49
saying (I quote) "a dr would dick a KLR on any gravel road" is talking out your arse as it depends on many things, that is not a qualified opinion, saying the KLR is a (I quote) " a shit adventure bike but a ok road bike in a drag" TRULY displays you havent got a clue what so ever, so you can now withdraw from the debate, you just lost.

really, explain yourself.

how far off the beaten track will the KLR take you?
the DR will always go further

Quasievil
9th August 2008, 13:39
really, explain yourself.

how far off the beaten track will the KLR take you?
the DR will always go further

Errr no it wont KLR 428 km range the DR 180km range
next ?

cooneyr
9th August 2008, 14:02
Errr no it wont KLR 428 km range the DR 180km range
next ?

This is not right :crazy: - I'm agreeing with Carver but here goes - Quasie that is not what Carver meant. Off the beaten track has nothing to do with fuel range.

Cheers R

Quasievil
9th August 2008, 15:29
This is not right :crazy: - I'm agreeing with Carver but here goes - Quasie that is not what Carver meant. Off the beaten track has nothing to do with fuel range.

Cheers R

Yeah yeah I know that sheesh, but its Carver ...............common:msn-wink:

Kaituna
9th August 2008, 16:22
Unless its the Australian outback. Then My DR is Fucked! And Quasi will be a good man and rescue me with fuel to spare!

pete376403
9th August 2008, 16:53
really, explain yourself.

how far off the beaten track will the KLR take you?
the DR will always go further
Assuming both bikes have the same type of tyres (which has more bearing than almost anything else off road) and riders of equivalent skill, WHY wold the Suzuki go "further off the beaten track"?

Kaituna
9th August 2008, 17:33
Good point pete. I suck off road. Would take more than my DR to even get close to keeping up with a good rider who was on even a really old KLR250 I reckon.

Quasievil
9th August 2008, 18:23
Assuming both bikes have the same type of tyres (which has more bearing than almost anything else off road) and riders of equivalent skill, WHY wold the Suzuki go "further off the beaten track"?

they are dillusional, the only valid point would be due to weight DR comes in at 147kg dry and the KLR comes in at 175kg, so 18 kgs the difference, BUT by the time the average DR owner has added all the neccersary mods, ie tanks, wind protection, luggage ability etc etc then there would be nothing in them weight wise, so yes the DR is lighter but defficent in stock trim to be a serious contender for the Adventure bike label, the KLR has the components stock to be entitled to the Adventure bike label.

so with both bikes in Stock trim yes the DR may be able to go into mud etc easier than a KLR, but even that would be a fractional advantage.
With both bikes in serious adventure long haul lets boogey for a week in the south island, there would be nothing in it at all.

Anyway enough, who wants to go for a ride tomorrow, say coro loop with some extras ??

TLDV8
9th August 2008, 18:31
WHY wold the Suzuki go "further off the beaten track"?

The close to 30 kg weight difference perhaps.
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There is no substitute for lighter weight especially when you have to pick a loaded bike up ?
I can't quite see the point in comparisons that are based on riding on tar seal. :confused: ,any dual sport bike will cope with that.

The KLR is probably a great bike (i have read a few oil use problems with the 2008 model) but a bike that weights as much as some 1000cc road bikes and water cooling (no pumps or seals to fail) were the decider for me.
I had also looked at the KTM 950 but that to was rejected due to the same things + water cooled,to heavy,to tall (high centre of gravity)

The DR although a little agricultural is still lighter than some unladen bikes fully loaded,that can be a real difference on rough surfaces (continuous corrugations,bull dust etc ) and if you have to pick it up.

It still comes back to test rides to suit needs but offroad will soon reveal both bikes weak spots i guess.

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Kaituna
9th August 2008, 18:39
Anyway enough, who wants to go for a ride tomorrow, say coro loop with some extras ??

I could be keen Bret.

Quasievil
9th August 2008, 19:12
The close to 30 kg weight difference perhaps.


18 kgs actually, you surely must have increased you tank size at least living where you do, so that 18 kgs would be even more reduced.................... this is the point Im trying to make

NordieBoy
9th August 2008, 19:22
they are dillusional, the only valid point would be due to weight DR comes in at 147kg dry and the KLR comes in at 175kg, so 18 kgs the difference

There's a bigger difference in the weight of some riders :D

TLDV8
9th August 2008, 19:44
18 kgs actually, you surely must have increased you tank size at least living where you do, so that 18 kgs would be even more reduced.................... this is the point Im trying to make

175 kgs - 147 kgs is not 18 kgs

It is 28 kgs or 61 LBS,a moot point perhaps.

The DR with around 20 litres of fuel (not forgetting the Safari fuel tank is a lowboy tank) adds 20 kgs to the 147 or 167 kgs.
The KLR in that case would be around 193 kgs with 20 litres so little changes.
At 15 litres or more,the Sarfari fuel level (centre of gravity) is lower than the stock 13 litre DR fuel tank.
With around 30 litres + on board the Sarfari climbs to 27 kgs but the range on the tar seal is huge,in the range of Auckland to Wellington without stopping i would think and still comes in at around 174 kgs.
I am in no doubt the KLR would be a better/more comfortable ride in that road going situation.
That again comes back to intended overall use and how far the road/dirt bias is used.
The out the door price of a DR650 in the Northern Territory (highest in Australia) was AU$8500 (perhaps NZ$10000+)

Quasievil
9th August 2008, 21:35
175 kgs - 147 kgs is not 18 kgs

It is 28 kgs or 61 LBS,a moot point perhaps.

The DR with around 20 litres of fuel (not forgetting the Safari fuel tank is a lowboy tank) adds 20 kgs to the 147 or 167 kgs.
The KLR in that case would be around 193 kgs with 20 litres so little changes.
At 15 litres or more,the Sarfari fuel level (centre of gravity) is lower than the stock 13 litre DR fuel tank.
With around 30 litres + on board the Sarfari climbs to 27 kgs but the range on the tar seal is huge,in the range of Auckland to Wellington without stopping i would think and still comes in at around 174 kgs.
I am in no doubt the KLR would be a better/more comfortable ride in that road going situation.
That again comes back to intended overall use and how far the road/dirt bias is used.
The out the door price of a DR650 in the Northern Territory (highest in Australia) was AU$8500 (perhaps NZ$10000+)

I should have referenced to the other requirements for the DR to be the same as a KLR ie Wind Protection and a luggage tray of some kind with thos additions there would be nothing in it

dont really matter anyway, both good bikes, just different capabilities.

BTW lived in Darwin for three years loved it, still got the bar called the cage, and fannies and dicks ?? I was there in the eighties

Crisis management
10th August 2008, 09:24
We still fighting over this?

Interesting point.....we wandered off yesterday down the west coast, 12 bikes?? and not a KLR in sight, in fact I haven't seen one on any ride this year.

Surely the sign of an adventure bike is that it's seen out there covered in mud?

Righty ho, carry on the debate. :2guns:

Quasievil
10th August 2008, 09:33
:cool:The Ultimate test is about to begin, Kaituna on his DR650 (modded to KLR standards:oi-grr:) and me on my standard KLR:2thumbsup, we will be doing highway and gravel.
:girlfight:lol

carver
10th August 2008, 11:57
whats their to fight over?
go the DR!

Quasievil
10th August 2008, 18:15
Well test day over but we forgot to test the bikes, had a bloody good day though awesome fun !!

sorry carver just got your pm re coming along, but to be honest mate neither me nor Kaituna would have been that interested in your road racing antics lol.

will post some pics up later

carver
10th August 2008, 18:55
Well test day over but we forgot to test the bikes, had a bloody good day though awesome fun !!

sorry carver just got your pm re coming along, but to be honest mate neither me nor Kaituna would have been that interested in your road racing antics lol.

will post some pics up later

yeah, fuck you too then quasi, lol

Kaituna
10th August 2008, 21:01
:cool:The Ultimate test is about to begin, Kaituna on his DR650 (modded to KLR standards:oi-grr:) and me on my standard KLR:2thumbsup, we will be doing highway and gravel.
:girlfight:lol

Here is some proof that both the Dr and the KLR left Hamilton at exactly the same time and even arrived at the top of Coromandel at the same time. Amazing....... Both bikes did the job almost identically. Awesome day. The guy on the yellow GSXR750 out of Coromandel must have shit himself being out cornered by a big blue dirty dirt bike!

Kaituna
10th August 2008, 21:07
More pics of Coromandel trip today. Kaituna and Quasievil.

pete376403
10th August 2008, 22:10
What are those tyres, Quasi, and what are they like on less-than-perfect gravel?

Quasievil
11th August 2008, 16:55
What are those tyres, Quasi, and what are they like on less-than-perfect gravel?

They are Avon Diztanzia's great tyre but much more road focused, say 80/20, they are okay on the gravel but the really loose stuff gets a bit skitty, also had one moment in the mud lol kinda funny I charged through a ford to go up the muddy bank on the other side to find a dirty great KLR swallowing hole on infront of me, like 3ft deep by 6 ft wide, I didnt see it until the last sec so turned the bike towards the side to get up the bank , but no no traction, funny moment really front wheel stuck and the rear spinning, so that kinda surface needs a knobbly, the DR had d208s on and had no probs, me thinks Im getting a set of those.

Padmei
11th August 2008, 17:36
Gonzo decided to do some breakdancing on his side halfway through a stretch of off camber slick clay yesterday:angry2:. Those crash bars I put on have paid for themselves already. The knobblies have been ordered:woohoo:

pete376403
11th August 2008, 19:17
Knobbies are good. For the CCA ride I had a Michelin M21 front and a Deestone (some obscure Thai brand) on the back, both full knobby and not 100% road legal, but handling on tarmac was ok and great in the sloppy stuff

NordieBoy
11th August 2008, 19:24
Gonzo decided to do some breakdancing on his side halfway through a stretch of off camber slick clay yesterday:angry2:. Those crash bars I put on have paid for themselves already. The knobblies have been ordered:woohoo:

How's the number plate and left rear blinker?

Padmei
11th August 2008, 19:24
Yeah getting some MT21s.


Is there anyway of embedding the photos into the post other than attaching them. ie so you can see thumbnails etc?

Padmei
11th August 2008, 19:26
How's the number plate and left rear blinker?


Left rear blinker?:( I'm going downstairs now to check - I never looked at it. Numberplates are for pounces anyway:dodge:

Quasievil
11th August 2008, 20:40
Left rear blinker?:( I'm going downstairs now to check - I never looked at it. Numberplates are for pounces anyway:dodge:

$86 for a new indicator assembly dude, I know ripped mine of by have stretchys running around it to often, tore the rubber housing, so dont do that eh lol

JATZ
11th August 2008, 20:45
Yeah getting some MT21s.


Is there anyway of embedding the photos into the post other than attaching them. ie so you can see thumbnails etc?

Here's how to "embed" the pics http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=78966

Suggest you get reading.

I'll be intersted to see how the mt21's are. They were one of the options I was looking at, then I decided the slicks work o.k so I'd get another 5000k's out of them

warewolf
11th August 2008, 21:40
Is there anyway of embedding the photos into the post other than attaching them.How to post an image (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919) :innocent:


Here's how to "embed" the pics Careful, you'll upset the kiwibiker-a-site-for-all-dialup-motorcyclists mob.


:argue:

:spanking:

JATZ
11th August 2008, 21:47
How do I add a video then ? Like a youtube job

warewolf
11th August 2008, 21:47
Michelin M21 frontTypo, you mean an M12 (http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004112822&codePage=2092004112822_09092004163140&lang=EN)?

<img src=http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/ImageServlet?imageCode=2227627529&codeSite=LP2R> (http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004112822&codePage=2092004112822_09092004163140&lang=EN)

JATZ
11th August 2008, 21:57
MT21- Cycletreads

warewolf
11th August 2008, 22:07
MT21- CycletreadsYeah, I know you mean a Pirelli MT21 DOT tyre, I think he means the Michelin M12 NHS job.

warewolf
11th August 2008, 22:18
How do I add a video then ? Like a youtube jobYouTube has an 'embed' string shown to the right of the clip being played... copy & paste that in.

<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Sv5iEK-IEzw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" height="344" width="425"></object>

pete376403
11th August 2008, 22:35
Yeah, I know you mean a Pirelli MT21 DOT tyre, I think he means the Michelin M12 NHS job.
Correct - it is an M12 (it was dark in the shed, the tyre was under a pile of stuff, mumble, mumble)