Wearing a backpack while riding?

[Stromble]

Seen heaps of people do this, and I do myself from time to time with the work gear in, laptop etc..

Just came to me today (one of those bring moments where something pops into the head out of nowhere..!), that if you came off and landed on your back with any force, this would be pretty dangerous I suspect..

Is it a no no to wear one? and strap the luggage to the pillion seat instead?

Anyone got any tales to tell or wisdom to offer here?

[slofox]

Seen heaps of people do this, and I do myself from time to time with the work gear in, laptop etc..

Just came to me today (one of those bring moments where something pops into the head out of nowhere..!), that if you came off and landed on your back with any force, this would be pretty dangerous I suspect..

Is it a no no to wear one? and strap the luggage to the pillion seat instead?

Anyone got any tales to tell or wisdom to offer here?

I wear mine so often I feel undressed when I DON"T wear it.....dunno how safe or not it is but it sure is convenient and feels more secure there than on the pillion seat. Mine has the usual shoulder straps but also has a strap across the chest and another across the puku. Pretty secure I figure. If you did fall off it might protect your back...if you fell onto your back...and slid on it....and it didn't rip off...and...ahh buggrit, never mind.....

[Gremlin]

Yep, come off badly, and the backpack could be an excellent way to break your back.

Givi top box for me... makes the arse of the bike nice and heavy, and as a result... the front lighter.

[Mom]

I would strongly recommend you DO NOT wear a back pack on a bike, bungy the thing to your pillion seat or something.

A few years ago I had a friend that was carrying some tools in a back pack on his bike (he was a builder so those kind of tools) He came to grief on a notorious off camber, rough as guts surfaced corner on his way to work. He broke his neck. The break was directly attributed to the fact that his neck was overflexed as he landed directly on his back pack. Thankfully he had a nurse in a car directly behind him when he fell off, she probably saved his life really.

[Stromble]

I would strongly recommend you DO NOT wear a back pack on a bike, bungy the thing to your pillion seat or something.

A few years ago I had a friend that was carrying some tools in a back pack on his bike (he was a builder so those kind of tools) He came to grief on a notorious off camber, rough as guts surfaced corner on his way to work. He broke his neck. The break was directly attributed to the fact that his neck was overflexed as he landed directly on his back pack. Thankfully he had a nurse in a car directly behind him when he fell off, she probably saved his life really.

Well, thats more than enough for me to convince me to get a pack rack.. or top box.! Thanks Mom..!

[yod]

ventura rack....bloody handy

[fizbin]

When I first started riding i was wearing a pack, but my old man in oz warned me off doing so. siad he had a mat who had come a cropper in a corner while wearing one and was now in a wheel chair for life!. was like yeah yeah what ever as you do, but i meet the guy while i was over there a couple of months back. he only had a pair of shoes and a lunch box in his bag.
yep my bikes will now always have pack racks. i don't care if they look gay to some people i like to wipe my own bottom thankyou!:buggerd:

[Mom]

Well, thats more than enough for me to convince me to get a pack rack.. or top box.! Thanks Mom..!

You are very welcome mate. Seriously, if you are stuck then do it, otherwise find another way, it really is not worth it. You used to be able to buy, and probably still can, a flat rack that sits over the rear mudguard of your bike. Not a pack rack, just something a bit like you used to have in the "olden days" :lol: A couple of bungees and hey presto you are away. Maybe a cheaper start option for you?

[skelstar]

When I was riding I wore a backpack whilst riding a lot of the time. Just don't be dumb about putting sharp, heavy/rigid things in it ... oh and wear a back protector.

[Stromble]

You are very welcome mate. Seriously, if you are stuck then do it, otherwise find another way, it really is not worth it. You used to be able to buy, and probably still can, a flat rack that sits over the rear mudguard of your bike. Not a pack rack, just something a bit like you used to have in the "olden days" :lol: A couple of bungees and hey presto you are away. Maybe a cheaper start option for you?

Ha, Im sure I can get something a little better looking.. maybe a basket like this one.... though maybe a problem with the head light...:2thumbsup

[Mom]

Ha, Im sure I can get something a little better looking.. maybe a basket like this one.... though maybe a problem with the head light...:2thumbsup

You tease :killingme

I will have you know once upon a time I used to own an FA50. Now this was no ordinary step through moped, oh no. It actually had a basket up front for the shoping, but best of all it had a custom made ventura (or its then equivalent) pack rack frame and its own custom pack! I was the absolute berries I can tell you....LOL

Seriously a pack rack on the back and a basket on the front...:killingme

[Stromble]

OMG...:gob: really!

Though I remember the old scooters in the uk with the shopping basket on, looked like one of those westfield mobility scooters with a 49cc engine..!

:rofl:

Just need the pink tassles on the handlebar ends and youre all set!



You tease :killingme

I will have you know once upon a time I used to own an FA50. Now this was no ordinary step through moped, oh no. It actually had a basket up front for the shoping, but best of all it had a custom made ventura (or its then equivalent) pack rack frame and its own custom pack! I was the absolute berries I can tell you....LOL

Seriously a pack rack on the back and a basket on the front...:killingme

[Stromble]

Here she is in all her beauty... (sorry, no front basket)

[Slyer]

Thankfully he had a nurse in a car directly behind him when he fell off, she probably saved his life really.
There is ALWAYS someone who is a nurse nearby. :P

[centercore]

Can anyone recommend a good cheap tail bag.

[Rback]

I had a "off" while wearing my pack and too be honest, think it helped. I highsided at over the legal speed limit. Admittedly I only had a few clothes in it and it has a hard backsupport. My question to this is - What about the hump on the back of racing leathers. That doesnt support the neck.??

[nico]

tank bags are a great invention

[Stromble]

I had a "off" while wearing my pack and too be honest, think it helped. I highsided at over the legal speed limit. Admittedly I only had a few clothes in it and it has a hard backsupport. My question to this is - What about the hump on the back of racing leathers. That doesnt support the neck.??

Doesnt the hump on racing leathers line up with the rear of the helmet though..? i would assume to avoid neck injury? (as well as the aerodynamic properties..)

[Mikkel]

Just don't be dumb about putting sharp, heavy/rigid things in it ... oh and wear a back protector.

+1 - especially the back protector bit, and that's whether you carry a backpack or not.

...and get a backpack which fits snugly along the length of your back.

I wear a backpack on my daily commute - doesn't bother me too much. Wearing one on a 700 km trip is a different matter though - but still doable.

I came off while wearing my backpack and I don't think it aggravated the fall in anyway, but it's hard to say...

[Gremlin]

Doesnt the hump on racing leathers line up with the rear of the helmet though..? i would assume to avoid neck injury? (as well as the aerodynamic properties..)
I thought it may help too once upon a time. Its actually made of very soft foam, ie, useless for protection. Its there for two reasons, 1) a little bit of aerodynamic help, 2) gp riders have them, they look good, so surely road riders would want them.

[CookMySock]

I wear mine so often I feel undressed when I DON"T wear it.....I reckon. I feel like "I'm off on a trip" when I have my pack on - I love it.. :ride:


I had a "off" while wearing my pack and too be honest, think it helped. I highsided at over the legal speed limit. Admittedly I only had a few clothes in it and it has a hard backsupport.Yeah I agree. I wouldn't wear some small pack with no back support. And as for putting nasty pointy steel tools in it - in an off you would be very fortunate to not have one of them sticking out your chest. Um, bad!

DB

[Mom]

Here she is in all her beauty... (sorry, no front basket)

OMG!!! They really did look wanky, seeing one after all these years!..:lol:

That was one seriously good little bike! It was our shop hack, the apprentices had to get the smoko on it :D They hated it. I actually had a couple, I got sick of the boys wrecking my baby...LOL

Thanks guys! Wish I had one now :cool:

[<Rhino>]

This is an interesting topic, I'm still a relative newby and have had a back pack on since day 1!! Since I commute to work I have to take somthing with me. On any given day all I have in my bag is a spare rain jacket for under my bike jacket on re helly bad days , my phones, and wallet. Sometime I have have a spot of leftovers for lunch.

I never really thought that it was that bad, but now I'm wondering. Might have to look into some saddle bags :apint:

Huh nurses, :doctor:

[Mom]

I had a "off" while wearing my pack and too be honest, think it helped. I highsided at over the legal speed limit. Admittedly I only had a few clothes in it and it has a hard backsupport. My question to this is - What about the hump on the back of racing leathers. That doesnt support the neck.??

Obviously the content of the back pack defines the risk to a degree...If you have another option use it :yes:


tank bags are a great invention

They sure are.


+1 - especially the back protector bit, and that's whether you carry a backpack or not.

...and get a backpack which fits snugly along the length of your back.

I wear a backpack on my daily commute - doesn't bother me too much. Wearing one on a 700 km trip is a different matter though - but still doable.

I came off while wearing my backpack and I don't think it aggravated the fall in anyway, but it's hard to say...

I guess as one gets older, one gets more afraid...LOL :blip:

Take care with the back pack eh! Yes, doable, but sensible? Think fatigue here...my shoulders hurt, wish I could get this thing off my back, God when is this trip going to end, my back is killing me.....OMG! WTF! OUCH! Worst case I agree... Not being able to enjoy completely the hospitality of your hosts after a long trip because you wince each time you move?


I thought it may help too once upon a time. Its actually made of very soft foam, ie, useless for protection. Its there for two reasons, 1) a little bit of aerodynamic help, 2) gp riders have them, they look good, so surely road riders would want them.

You are talking "wank factor" surely for road riders? To step aside from my shit stir long enough to avoid the wrath of my friends that have them for a moment, they must add aerodynamics? They must be proven technology, or we would not see them used professionally? Safety...I dont know, someone smarter will though I have no doubt!

[skelstar]

Have done a 900km trip in a day with a fullish backpack had don't remember it being a problem at all.

[Ragingrob]

I believe it would have much to do with what you're carrying in your back pack... I doubt that a pad of refill and a couple of pens in a backpack would make any difference to any injuries sustained in a crash. If you were carrying a dozen beer bottles, or a bag full of heavy duty tools, then yes this could harm your chances.

[BiK3RChiK]

I often wear a small backpack with 'essentials' in it. I once tried a large backpack with an inbuilt back support and as soon as I got on the bike, I knew I'd not even get down the drive! If I ever have to go anywhere that requires more 'stuff' I'll be sending it forward to my destination or getting a packrack.

[Gremlin]

You are talking "wank factor" surely for road riders? To step aside from my shit stir long enough to avoid the wrath of my friends that have them for a moment, they must add aerodynamics? They must be proven technology, or we would not see them used professionally? Safety...I dont know, someone smarter will though I have no doubt!
since I ride on the road... ummm no... no wank factor :shifty:

yes, they provide a little bit of aerodynamics... but we're not doing 350kph are we? or are we? :eek: The screen will assist more with aerodynamics, and considering I can't get behind mine, and still have umm... done, *cough* $2.80 its really a moot point.

[Mikkel]

I guess as one gets older, one gets more afraid...LOL :blip:

Actually neurological research show that the number of receptors in the brain that induces anxiety decreases with age - if you're past 40 you should feel significantly less afraid... :p (I'm not going to guess at a lady's age - it would be improper, not to mention indecent ;) )


Take care with the back pack eh! Yes, doable, but sensible? Think fatigue here...my shoulders hurt, wish I could get this thing off my back, God when is this trip going to end, my back is killing me.....OMG! WTF! OUCH! Worst case I agree... Not being able to enjoy completely the hospitality of your hosts after a long trip because you wince each time you move?

Well, more sensible than missing the party I'd say! A few backaches is not anything a few beers won't sort. :D

[Pogo2]

The weight of the backpack will also have an effect on the handling as it will move the centre of gravity higher. The nett result we be that the bike will have a slighty higher tendency to topple ( and maybe also some extra instability)due to the additional weight at the higher level.

Its best to carry all of your weight as low as possible. Thats why the big tourers, such as BMW (and others) have their panniers as low as possible. Weight is lower and therefore bike is easier to handle.

I guess for smaller stuff its not too bad but if your carting around alot of weight then I would perhaps reconsider where I put that weight.

Oh hang on - way too much physics after 8.00pm.

[rottiguy]

yeah mate, get a pack rack, I wouldn't be without one. Some people reckon they look girly but I have a pink pair of lacey ones that say otherwise :)
ya don't get the old cut off circulation buzz when it's on the rack either


Well, thats more than enough for me to convince me to get a pack rack.. or top box.! Thanks Mom..!

[Flip]

Actually neurological research show that the number of receptors in the brain that induces anxiety decreases with age - if you're past 40 you should feel significantly less afraid...

Speaking for the older generation, it doesent work this way. I wouldent wear a back pack on a scooter. I even take my cell and other largish items out of my pockets incase I have an off and land on them.

[Drum]

Is it also a no-no to have a 40 of Grouse down my jacket and some fish and chips sitting in my lap whilst riding home on a Friday night?

[Mikkel]

The weight of the backpack will also have an effect on the handling as it will move the centre of gravity higher. The nett result we be that the bike will have a slighty higher tendency to topple ( and maybe also some extra instability)due to the additional weight at the higher level.

You're hauling some serious backpacks there!

More weight up high -> corner faster :p


Speaking for the older generation, it doesent work this way.

Could be that you just know more and have more to worry about as you get older...

[Griffin]

Saddle Bags - cant go past em... prob wouldnt look so hot on a sprotsbike but they the bom on a cruiser :msn-wink:

[FJRider]

Is it also a no-no to have a 40 of Grouse down my jacket and some fish and chips sitting in my lap whilst riding home on a Friday night?

YES it is... pass them to me, I'll carry them for you in MY pack bag...:rolleyes:

[Mountlocal1]

Im getting one of these... No drag bag.. Compact and bloody well made.

[Winston001]

tank bags are a great invention

+10

The obvious solution for small/medium stuff. Stable and if magnetic, just lift it off and take with you.

[DougB]

I wear my viola (which is slightly bigger than a violin) on my back slung like a rifle. I have been doing this for over 50 years, mainly in the city. This topic has made me think on the dangers. I expect I will continue to do so. My only concern in the past was the fact that the instrument is worth over $6000, I was concerned about what an off would do to the viola, never thought about me untill now.

[howdamnhard]

I use a backpack on my daily commute and have no problems.As long as it isn't to large/ heavy so as to interfere with your control and doesn't have any hard objects in it.Bare in mind, would you be prepared to fall on whatever you put in it,that goes for tank bags too.

[kevfromcoro]

I got a rack on the back of my XR..It is handy for carting stuff around.
But just thinking about it.....on a steep incline,and other situations.it better to exit the bike from the rear.....think this thing would do me more damage than good,..got one of those cargo nets...
might strap the bag to the tank

[PirateJafa]

Hrmmm, I've done some camping on the bike, with tankbag, net strapped to pillionseat and wearing the smaller tramping pack complete with sleeping bags and tent - the two of us got a few funny looks!

[Pwalo]

I use the backpack for commuting. I've pretty well got only mobile, spare ear plugs, glasses cleaner, cleaning cloth, extra top in winter, and if I remember, my lunch.

I dont think it's going to do me a lot of harm in a crash. It didn't last time.

However for anything heavier I'd like a pack rack or something because it would be rather uncomfortable.

[3L4NS1R]

Was possibly touched on, but whats the consensus of those 'turtle' back packs, those streamline, hardcase ones made for biking... good? no good?

[skelstar]

Im getting one of these... No drag bag.. Compact and bloody well made.

Thing with some of those backpacks is that they often aren't designed for volume... more for laptops, folders, and useful crap. Not an extra jersey, smalls, supermarket shopping (for those vehicularly challenged). Pays to sign it, or find really good online pictures if you're ordering sight-unseen.


Was possibly touched on, but whats the consensus of those 'turtle' back packs, those streamline, hardcase ones made for biking... good? no good?
See my comment above. You mean the Axio brand? ... look cool if you're planning on sliding down the road on your back, but a back protector should be installed anyway and the packs are quite bulky regardless of the contents.

<img src="http://www.macgears.com/wp-images/axio-swift-hardpack.jpg" /> <img src="http://www.popgadget.net/images/axiofusehardpack.jpg" />

[vifferman]

There's a bit of scaremongering and misinformation on here about backpacks. Firstly, wearing one should be OK if:
- It's not too heavy (will strain your shoulders, and back, and will upset the balance of the bike. If you crash, it's also going to affect your ability to slide or roll.)
- Has a padded back, or armoured outer (like those turtleback thingos), or you wear a back protector. (Incidentally, I have a Teknic one for sale).
- You don't carry dangerous items in it, like wildcats, explosives, biological waste, babies, or P-addicts.
- It is well tied on (waist strap).

Having done thousands of km with a backpack on, I'd say you're better off with a topbox or backpack on a rack, in the event you crash, and from the point of view it doesn't hinder you as much when you're riding. However, it IS convenient just being able to jump on the bike and go, as opposed to having to put the backpack on the bike or fill your topbox.

[mattian]

I wear my backpack to work everyday. I only carry my work clothes in it and yes, I do consider it a risk...... but, its a calculated risk, like every decision you make about your riding. Its not so much the impact of objects inside the bag that would concern me so much as the the possibility that it might "snag" on something while you are sliding along the tarmac, and, with it attached firmly around my shoulders with straps could be quite nasty. It is certainly safer to have a pack rack or topbox.

[Mikkel]

I wear my viola (which is slightly bigger than a violin) on my back slung like a rifle. I have been doing this for over 50 years, mainly in the city. This topic has made me think on the dangers. I expect I will continue to do so. My only concern in the past was the fact that the instrument is worth over $6000, I was concerned about what an off would do to the viola, never thought about me untill now.

Hardcase or softcase?

If it's a softcase I don't think you'd need to worry too much (about yourself...)

A hardcase on the other hand. :eek:

[Flip]

Could be that you just know more and have more to worry about as you get older...

No my bones don't bend and even a slow fall will result in a trip to hospital.

[Mikkel]

No my bones don't bend and even a slow fall will result in a trip to hospital.

Trust me mate, my bones don't bend either... :no: Doesn't mean you have to break them though.

[musicman]

Hardcase or softcase?

If it's a softcase I don't think you'd need to worry too much (about yourself...)

A hardcase on the other hand. :eek:

The only stringed instruments I've seen carried by softcases are guitars and double basses... I don't think violinists, violists, and cellists would risk carrying their instruments in a soft case. I've never tested the fragility of my violin, and I hope I never have to. :crazy:

[sunhuntin]

ill only ride with a backpack if the top box and tank bag are full, and i have no bungy cords on hand. i bought a top box and had it fitted before i had my license, so ive never had to travel any great distance. usually, ill pack a backpack with whatevers needed, and their either jam it into the box, or strap to the pillion seat. soft stuff like clothes i dont expect would make much difference, depending on how tightly packed the bag is. if its close to splitting the zip, then it might make a difference.

[Bass]

From a purely subjective viewpoint, when I am watching motoGP, it seems to me that after an off, if they only slide, they get up and walk away. However, if they tumble, that's when they tend to break bones.
A back pack encourages tumbling.
Having said that however, I have just spent 2 months doing 18,000 km around the back blocks of Oz while wearing a 3 litre camelback with some extras like camera etc in it - about 5 kg all up. I wouldn't have done without it. I could have, but it was a risk balance call.

[3L4NS1R]

look cool if you're planning on sliding down the road on your back


Excellent. Its all about the looks, and if you can look cool while in the midst of what is probably a bit of a screwup on your behalf, why not?

[alanzs]

I ride with one frequently. Usually fairly light, nothing sharp, etc. I also have a back protector in my riding suit. Bottom line, the ground comes up really fast when crashing, so I try to avoid it at all costs.
Number one rule of riding: NEVER TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE. It covers everything really if you think about it.

[Zuki Bandit]

Yep, wear mine all the time. Never really thought of it as a risk:pinch:

[portokiwi]

:2guns:I wear my back pack allmost everytime I go on my bike, I have a waist and chest harness on mine but I cant say I do both of then up.
Like most say commen sense in what you put in the pack and how big the pack is. I can strap my fishing gear to it as well. Just glad I never catch anything or I might have a problem bringing the catch home lol

[ManDownUnder]

I feel undressed when I DON"T wear it

... it's much nicer to feel your missus when SHE's undressed....

[Dakara]

I used to ride with a pack, but the amount I had to carry to work was getting too heavy and weighing on my shoulders, also realised my own safety was at risk.

Easiest solution is a bungy net. Fill ya pack up, strap it to the pillion seat and off ya go. When I ride 2 up in summer, I have had my other half riding with a pack on, but just with towels for the beach. However, am going to look into a tank bag, or even some soft panniers (http://www.motoretail.co.nz/product.cfm?ID=5562) for the next bike.

I have a tail bag, but it's a pain in the arse as evertime I put it on or take it off the bike I have to remove 4 bungees then the Pillion seat. Doesn't sound like much, but after a few weeks of doing it 4 times a day (Home... Work...Work...Home) ya get pretty sick of it!

[munterk6]

Yep, wear mine all the time. Never really thought of it as a risk:pinch:
Grow a brain buddy....wearing a backpack on a bike is downright STUPID!
Apart from falling off and breaking your neck.1)ts so much harder on the wrists under brakes due to the weight of the pack being increased by G force,
2) it weighs on ya shoulders and is a general pain in the arse compared to riding without one
3)Its like having ya missus ON YA BACK...and who wants that?
There ya go, 3 good reasons! :nono:

Seems to me that people who are happy to wear a pack on there back are just TOO TIGHT to shell out for proper luggage or packrack and bags. I use a ventura system on my bike and I commute it so its real handy for throwing shit in.

[Mikkel]

Grow a brain buddy....wearing a backpack on a bike is downright STUPID!

Debateable! So is, whether riding a motorcycle in the first place is downright STUPID!...


Apart from falling off and breaking your neck.1)ts so much harder on the wrists under brakes due to the weight of the pack being increased by G force,
2) it weighs on ya shoulders and is a general pain in the arse compared to riding without one
3)Its like having ya missus ON YA BACK...and who wants that?
There ya go, 3 good reasons! :nono:

That very much comes down to weight - and I sure as hell hope your missus doesn't weigh less than 20 kgs!


Seems to me that people who are happy to wear a pack on there back are just TOO TIGHT to shell out for proper luggage or packrack and bags. I use a ventura system on my bike and I commute it so its real handy for throwing shit in.

Not always about being tight - you can only fit panniers, luggage and packracks to cruisers, adventure sportstouring and touring bikes.
That leaves some of us without the option of anything besides tank bag and backpack. (unless we choose to compromise and/or scratch our paintjobs...

[ZeroIndex]

How exactly is wearing a backpack while you ride a bad thing? If you're so concerned about landing on your back, wear a backpack filled with bubblewrap and voila, safety gear...

I wear my backpack if I need to carry any books / small things. It's an Oxtar (boot brand) backpack and it has cool reflector piping on it... if anything, it makes my back feel safer, it also has the chest strap, so it doesn't flap around

[Irontusk]

I havn't started riding yet (this weekend maybe, just gotta sit the theory test and go tell the shop to deliver my bike :) ) but this was one of the first issues I thought of when thinking how I'd get things to work. I decided right away that I didn't want to fall off and land on a bottle of coke or bulky work shoes. I might of thought about this mainly cause of my back though (which I'm about to search for or make a thread about), it's bad :pinch:
So I don't know how a bag effects riding, but if I was to wear a bag it would have to be VERY slim, very well fitting and having nothing hard in it (maybe a hyrdration pack??)

[Dakara]

I havn't started riding yet (this weekend maybe, just gotta sit the theory test and go tell the shop to deliver my bike :) ) but this was one of the first issues I thought of when thinking how I'd get things to work. I decided right away that I didn't want to fall off and land on a bottle of coke or bulky work shoes. I might of thought about this mainly cause of my back though (which I'm about to search for or make a thread about), it's bad :pinch:
So I don't know how a bag effects riding, but if I was to wear a bag it would have to be VERY slim, very well fitting and having nothing hard in it (maybe a hyrdration pack??)

The possible dangers with packs are sharp objects (even pens) stabbing you if you land on them or if the bag is large that if you land on your back, your head is so far above the road that you break your neck.

All the other arguments about weight/fatigue etc are more personal preference. Some people find their own safety gear too heavy, others could carry a few doz brewskies and not break a sweat :laugh:

I stopped riding with a pack as I had too much shit to carry, it weighed a tonne and would of broken my neck if I landed on it. A bottle of coke and a pair of shoes should be sweet as, especially if your jacket has some back armor, but you can always go to repco, grab some bungies and strap your bag to the Pillion seat :2thumbsup

[Irontusk]

A bottle of coke and a pair of shoes should be sweet as, especially if your jacket has some back armor, but you can always go to repco, grab some bungies and strap your bag to the Pillion seat :2thumbsup

More hard objects to land on can't be good :pinch: As for the pillion seat.. I'm taking that off! :D The VL250 has a fairly big storage space under the seat, but it's not big enough..

[Insanity_rules]

Seen heaps of people do this, and I do myself from time to time with the work gear in, laptop etc..

Just came to me today (one of those bring moments where something pops into the head out of nowhere..!), that if you came off and landed on your back with any force, this would be pretty dangerous I suspect..

Is it a no no to wear one? and strap the luggage to the pillion seat instead?

Anyone got any tales to tell or wisdom to offer here?

I hate wearing one, I always strap mine to the seat.

[Big Dave]

I wear a back pack occasionally. I ain't afeared.

[fatzx10r]

i just use a tank bag to carry shit around in, they are bloody great things

[DarkLord]

I nearly always carry a little one, for you never know when you might need to pick something up and bring it back with you. It has come in handy many times.

I've done some long trips with a big backpack on before and I wouldn't advise that as your back starts to hurt after a while. Good to get yourself a packrack if you plan on doing some long rides.

[RnB Fan]

I pretty much wear one all the time when riding and have had two offs while wearing a pack with no greater issue that it bloody well hurt hitting the road! Having said that I am riding to ChCh at Xmas and will definitely be getting a pack rack before then.

[vifferman]

I hate wearing one, I always strap mine to the seat.
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Anyway... back to backpacks. Oh! I see ... you were talking about backpacks. Well, I've done several trips with a bag bungied onto the seat (like Roundabouta to Hawera multiple times, and Hamiltron to Chch and back), before I got a decent backpack, and frankly it suxes. You have to spend too much time checking what the frigging thing is up to. An ex-motorcyclist I know woke up in a badly mangled state, and was told that "Apparently your bag went into your back wheel at around 120km/h."

Anyway (Part II), I used to wear a backpack (once I actually had one) until I bought a bike that came with a Ventura rack and pack. It was so marvellous that every subsequent bike has had one. However a tankbag is better, as far as not affecting the handling of the bike and all that.
So... why don't I used one all the time? Well, the Ventura pack can be put on the bike with one hand, holds more, and doesn't scratch the paint.

[Irontusk]

and doesn't scratch the paint.

And THAT is what is important! I'm not putting anything on my tank.

[PrincessBandit]

My pack keeps my back warm; don't think I'd fancy coming off my bike though with my sax strapped across my back. Doesn't stop me from riding with it there from time to time though.

[Morcs]

Believe it or not, I while back I had a guy come into my shop asking for a hard backpack - as a few weeks earlier, he'd had a bad accident, and the hard backpack saved him from a broken back...

[Silage]

When commuting to work I always use a backpack - but it only has my lunch in it. Maybe it would be a good idea to eat jelly sandwiches to further soften a fall!! My jacket does have back armour so hopefully that saves me from having an apple break my back.

But on longer trips I have occasionally used a backpack for overflow clothes etc and find it a pain from the weight on the shoulders and do think it brings heightened risk of injury. I doubt that the weight is too significant (unless real heavy) as I have quite high centre of gravity and it is not all from my head.

[Iain]

Can anyone recommend a good cheap tail bag.


Ive been reading a bit about Ventura back pack systems. They've got a video on their website which showcases the product. Looks good to me.

Anyone have the Ventura back pack and would like to pass on your opinion?


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Iain

[Steam]

Anyone have the Ventura back pack and would like to pass on your opinion?

Yep, completely useful, totally indispensable, a daily vital tool.
I wouldn't be without one. Plenty for sale used on trademe.
Not waterproof, but no pack is really waterproof.

[Big Dave]

Ventura products get the BD 'Tasmanian' Rating - three thumbs up.

[Sidewinder]

Seen heaps of people do this, and I do myself from time to time with the work gear in, laptop etc..

Just came to me today (one of those bring moments where something pops into the head out of nowhere..!), that if you came off and landed on your back with any force, this would be pretty dangerous I suspect..

Is it a no no to wear one? and strap the luggage to the pillion seat instead?

Anyone got any tales to tell or wisdom to offer here?

what would be nicer landing on your back with a bag on or land on your back with your bike landing on top off you

[PrincessBandit]

Saddle Bags - cant go past em... prob wouldnt look so hot on a sprotsbike but they the bom on a cruiser :msn-wink:
Saddle bags? Saddle bags???????...... what if we have our own! Oops, wrong sort. as you were.


Ive been reading a bit about Ventura back pack systems. They've got a video on their website which showcases the product. Looks good to me.

Anyone have the Ventura back pack and would like to pass on your opinion?


Iain

Just ordered one for my bandit; happy to let you know how i find it once it's all fitted etc.

[Iain]

Saddle bags? Saddle bags???????...... what if we have our own! Oops, wrong sort. as you were.



Just ordered one for my bandit; happy to let you know how i find it once it's all fitted etc.

Please do. I was looking at the full system then saw they have one that clips onto a fabric mount on the pillion seat. Im looking for a pack that I can have all my tools and bits in as I do PC support and like to take the bike to jobs. So the pack itself is whats important to me.

What pack did you decide to get?

Iain

[Squiggles]

I've come off before and had a sore lower back where my bag (with laptop and a few books) dug in. Have since put my ventura rack back on (because of this and have been taking the mrs alot recently and there just aint room on a ginny for two with bags) I just strap the bag to that. Also lets me move around more freely

[Slyer]

I have to say those Ventura packs look pretty sweet.

[HungusMaximist]

Get one, it will be the best thing you did.

I've got one on my 929!

[Dakara]

Who sells Ventura in Auckland? Google has let me down :doh:

[idleidolidyll]

Backpack with soft stuff only.
Don't stick a big SLR camera in it and don't stick a motherfucker size chain and padlock in it but DO use them for wet weather gear, extra clothing etc.
I reckon that kind of soft stuff must actually help protect ya.

my 2c anyway

[vifferman]

I have to say those Ventura packs look pretty sweet.
Yeah, they're OK. They're not perfect - while they're showerproof, the seams will leak, so you need a storm cover. Unfortunately, the cover flaps around a bit, so I just stick the things that need to be kept dry in supermarket bags, and don't worry about it. On long ttrips with a pillion I'd use the cover though, for maximum dryness.
Also the rack's kinda low-key, but not the most aesthetically pleasing of bike fittings. At least it's easy to remove the rack itself (leaving the L-brackets on the bike) - just two thumbscrew thingies.
Another kewl thing about the racks, which you don't get with other luggage systems, is that you can mount the pack facing forwards, so it's on/over the pillion seat when you're riding solo. And there are a wide range of sizes of Ventura packs, or you can buy packs that zip to other ones, to double your capacity when you need to.
The biggest plus it they're a Kiwi product.

Who sells Ventura in Auckland? Google has let me down :doh:
Motohaus does. They'll also fit the rack for you.

[Forest]

Not waterproof, but no pack is really waterproof.

Agreed. If you need waterproof packs, you have to go with a hard luggage system.

[Dakara]

Motohaus does. They'll also fit the rack for you.

Cheers :niceone:

[southernmike]

I often wear a small backpack but I aways pack it in a way that would be *best* for impact should the event occur. Guess it is up to the god of motorcycling what actually happens. Hell a top box could break away in a crash and become your worst enemy!

How many ride with a bunch of keys in your pocket???

[southernmike]

BTW the more carrying capacity you have the more you will carry!
It's amazing how little you can really travel with.

[Elysium]

Sorry to dig up an old thread but I just got myself a Ventura pack rack for my CB900 Hornet (custom made by Ventura for my bike) and have a Ventura pack on order to complete it. For those who want to know how good it is, well they fit on nice and secure. The L brackets are far better then those long ons that go under the seat as you simply remove the hand grip and screw them into the same holes.

[TOTO]

How much did it set you back ? I'm wanting to get one exactly like that for the Hooligan.

[Slyer]

That's pretty cool, I don't like the big bars it leaves underneath and sticking up when it's not connected.

[Dealer]

I recommend a tank bag. I bought mine shortly after buying my bike, cos i got sick of taking my bag off whenever i wanted to get something outa it.
i've only got a low profile one, but its surprising how much you can get into it.
Just make sure you dont get metal shavings stuck on the magnets.

[Ragingrob]

I've got a ventura pack rack set coming my way in Feb. I decided that with a rack it's easier to take bags AND more comfortable for pillion, so if I get one I may not even bother about upgrading the viffer.

[Slyer]

I tried to source a ventura mallory tank bag from motohaus but apparently they are closing down? Anyone know where I could get one?

[Elysium]

How much did it set you back ? I'm wanting to get one exactly like that for the Hooligan.

Like all good quality bike parts it isn't cheap but not too dear either. All up it cost me $220 for the L brackets and Rack, the brackets themselves cost about $140 proberly because they're custom made for the CB900s.

Only problem I found with this kit are the two thin pieces of foam that I'm surposed to put uner the brackets inside the fairing. Instruction seemed simple but couldn't figure out which way it was surposed to go and said to attach them to inside of gap leaved by hand grip.

I couldn't do this with the brackets in so I leaved them out and doesn't seem to be important parts as the rack secured perfecly without them. Not too sure on their use.

[Elysium]

I tried to source a ventura mallory tank bag from motohaus but apparently they are closing down? Anyone know where I could get one?

Most bike shops can supply or can order in Ventura gear. Shouldn't have any trouble finding a shop that does.

[Slyer]

Cheers I'll go ask at cycletreads.

[NighthawkNZ]

Is it a no no to wear one? and strap the luggage to the pillion seat instead?

Anyone got any tales to tell or wisdom to offer here?

I wear a hydro pack and sometimes I put in my wet weather gear... I would never put anything solid like a laptop, tools or camera etc... if I had to do that it would be tied down on the pillion seat or to the pack rack...

Hmmm and I don't have any horror stories on that...

[hayd3n]

a friend of mine came off his bike around a bend some time ago , and was knocked out , when he woke up he thought he was paralysed!!!
he realised that his backpack was caught around a fence and actually saved him from goin down a cliff,
the bike was quite a wee way down and it had to be towed up !!

[Bonez]

Can anyone recommend a good cheap tail bag.Pack from the the Wharehouse and bungies. Can double as a tank bag.

[Owl]

Pack from the the Wharehouse and bungies. Can double as a tank bag.

Cheap skate!:rofl:

[Elysium]

Well thats how it was done in the old days, just having a bike made you cool and rich looking.

[Bonez]

Well thats how it was done in the old days, just having a bike made you cool and rich looking.Still done in these modern times mate ;). Though I did buy a tank bag off Maha recently, which can be used as a man bag, backpack, tail bag etc.

[Bonez]

Cheap skate!:rofl:Of course.

[niero]

Hahaha, i came off with my $5000 Macbook Pro (when I say came off, I mean a fucking Landrover drove over me) in my bag... probably saved my spine! All in all, just one small dent on the side, thank god for Aluminium body. Anything plastic would have been in pieces.

[Phurrball]

^^^ Hmm - says something for Apple's laptops. My aluminium powerbook was in my backpack in both of the crashes I have had - it's a little battered, but still works just fine :2thumbsup:

[Quasievil]

Ive Just ordered the new KNOX motorcycle back packs in, carries a 17 inch notebook, its got 25 litre capacity, a special pocket for a visor (great for the clear one if coming home late) as well as a integrate helmet pocket, so when you get to work you put the helmet into the extendable helmet pocket and away you go, it even has a pocket for the roll up back protector to go in, its aerodynamic and everything else that you would expect

Here is the speel
Ergonomic. Like military kit, the Sixpack is engineered so that the majority of the weight is carried low over the hips to reduce stress on the lower back when worn over long distances.
25-litre capacity. Easy access to the main 25-litre compartment is achieved via a 180-degree zipper, which is protected by an adjustable storm flap.
Laptop carry-case. Inside is a high-quality laptop carry-case that is detachable, removable and large enough to carry a 17” notebook.
Spare visor pouch. Don’t get caught in the dark thanks to a soft, removable protective visor pouch for a spare visor, that fastens to the interior.
Additional capacity. For added practicality, the SixPack is fitted with a compression strap system to carry the Knox Stowaway roll-up back protector, bedding roll etc.
Helmet carrier. On reaching the destination, put the helmet into the water-resistant helmet bag supplied with the SixPack, then fit it under the expandable helmet carrier on the back of the rucksack, so it can be carried safely and securely. (NB the helmet-carrying feature is not designed for use while riding)

And the picture
Havent worked out pricing but hopefully around the $120 mark

[Cajun]

nice quasi i be in for one of those

[Slyer]

Sign me up for one!

[gijoe1313]

dang thems lookies goods, I will be in for one as well :yes:

[vifferman]

I recommend a tank bag.
Just make sure you dont get metal shavings stuck on the magnets.
Or sand or grit. A lot of this (especially on the west coast) is magnetic.
And very abrasive. :Oops:

[Cajun]

Or sand or grit. A lot of this (especially on the west coast) is magnetic.
And very abrasive. :Oops:

yeah or floor of the ferrys

worked that one out, got a scratch on my tank, first one in 40,000+kms )c: <

[imdying]

Spare visor pouch. Don’t get caught in the dark thanks to a soft, removable protective visor pouch for a spare visor, that fastens to the interior.Well fuck me... I've been looking for one of these for ages... was just about to push the button on a mil spec icon backpack for this purpose.

How much and when are they arriving?

[vifferman]

got a scratch on my tank
A scratch! OH NO!!! Quelle horreur! and all that. :rolleyes:

I rode my bike up to North Cape, and did many km of riding on unsealed roads. I was having such a good time I forgot to check the bottom of the tankbag each time I put it on. The paintwork is now pretty much fucked.


Mebbe it's time I did a trackday... I'm bound to bin it, and my plastics and tank both need some tidying up...

[Quasievil]

Well fuck me... I've been looking for one of these for ages... was just about to push the button on a mil spec icon backpack for this purpose.

How much and when are they arriving?

They will be $149 mate, I wanted them cheaper but the ole USD thing is kinda sucky, however I think they will be well worth the investment.
They are ordered and we expect them in NZ in about a week + customs two weeks tops.

[Quasievil]

Ive Just ordered the new KNOX motorcycle back packs in, carries a 17 inch notebook, its got 25 litre capacity, a special pocket for a visor (great for the clear one if coming home late) as well as a integrate helmet pocket, so when you get to work you put the helmet into the extendable helmet pocket and away you go, it even has a pocket for the roll up back protector to go in, its aerodynamic and everything else that you would expect

Here is the speel
Ergonomic. Like military kit, the Sixpack is engineered so that the majority of the weight is carried low over the hips to reduce stress on the lower back when worn over long distances.
25-litre capacity. Easy access to the main 25-litre compartment is achieved via a 180-degree zipper, which is protected by an adjustable storm flap.
Laptop carry-case. Inside is a high-quality laptop carry-case that is detachable, removable and large enough to carry a 17” notebook.
Spare visor pouch. Don’t get caught in the dark thanks to a soft, removable protective visor pouch for a spare visor, that fastens to the interior.
Additional capacity. For added practicality, the SixPack is fitted with a compression strap system to carry the Knox Stowaway roll-up back protector, bedding roll etc.
Helmet carrier. On reaching the destination, put the helmet into the water-resistant helmet bag supplied with the SixPack, then fit it under the expandable helmet carrier on the back of the rucksack, so it can be carried safely and securely. (NB the helmet-carrying feature is not designed for use while riding)

And the picture
Havent worked out pricing but hopefully around the $120 mark


These Bags have arrived this morning and in a word FUCKEN HELL they are wicked, I want one but cant justify it on the race bike !

Six in total so order fast !

Churs