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racefactory
5th August 2008, 07:42
Hi,

My mate drives round on a SV650 on his learners and hes done that for at least 5 months now- he hasn't been stopped and fined.

Thing is, ive got a TZR250 and i have been stopped twice and im on my learners too.

Am i just really unlucky? Or are bikes with fairings stopped more frequently?

How often do you get stopped (with sensible legal driving) ?

Bren
5th August 2008, 07:47
he drives an sv650?

Oakie
5th August 2008, 07:54
I only get pulled over when I do something silly in front of them (and it was silly enough for them to worry about). Once in about the last 5 years. Twice in the last 26 years. Nanas rule!

CookMySock
5th August 2008, 08:29
some bikes are an oink magnet ay, brings them running squealing..

DB

Ragingrob
5th August 2008, 09:34
Have never been stopped whilst riding ay. What have they stopped you for?

Tank
5th August 2008, 09:38
I used to ride a M50 (800) with a "L" plate and never got pulled over - even when the copper was on a bike behind me on the m/way.

Probably more down to how one rides.

yod
5th August 2008, 09:45
last time I was stopped was 1995, for doing 76 in a 50 zone

the cop proceeded to tell me I was "going like a bat out of hell" followed closely by "just try to keep it under 70"

cuz, y'know, there's a big difference between 76 and 69 :killingme

007XX
5th August 2008, 10:03
I only got stopped once at a "mass random check" for WOF and rego on our way to the Cold Kiwi in Ngaruawahia.

I ride a VTR 250 that looks like a bigger bike to the uneducated eye, and am on my learners still :pinch:

yod
5th August 2008, 10:05
lol....he just wanted to check out your avatar....betcha

Mikkel
5th August 2008, 10:07
Never been stopped on my bike - so far. Here's to hoping it remains that way.


he drives an sv650?

You drive tractors don't you? :scratch:


cuz, y'know, there's a big difference between 76 and 69 :killingme

Yeah, I've never tried the 76 - but I have a feeling I'll prefer the 69 ;)

pritch
5th August 2008, 10:30
I have been stopped for a variety of reasons, some reasonable, some less so.

There have been the obvious mass wof and rego checks, mass breath checks , a check to see if I was carrying an escaped prisoner. One check I can recall was not accompanied by any explanation but he seemed to loose interest when he saw the colour of my hair.

I think the most memorable was the occasion where I was stopped in town and asked to remove my helmet, then the silk balaclava, then got "Sorry you aren't who I thought you were." To my knowledge I was the only persion riding a B50SS in town around then so God knows who I was supposed to be.

By the way people, the correct spelling of "ay" or whatever is "eh".
It is only two letters afterall and shouldn't provide an insurmountable challenge. No offence intended :-)

bobsmith
5th August 2008, 10:43
I seem to get stopped on my car like clockwork for random checks.

But in the 2+ years I've had a bike, I've never been pulled over for anything... Strange.....

Mind you my car does have a broken window and dents on every side of the car.

Gremlin
5th August 2008, 10:44
How often do you get stopped (with sensible legal driving) ?
oh... legal riding... ummm... don't think ever? :mellow: Been stopped 4-5 times I think in 3.5 years, ticket every time. Get waved through every checkpoint, no checking, I normally slow down, lift visor etc, so I guess they expect I'm fine, and can't be bothered.

now... where's Morcs? :laugh:

Jantar
5th August 2008, 10:57
...By the way people, the correct spelling of "ay" or whatever is "eh".
It is only two letters afterall and shouldn't provide an insurmountable challenge. No offence intended :-)

The BDOTGNZA are ashamed to read this. :nono: According to the concise english dictionary, the correct spelling of "ay" is "ay", and the correct spelling of "eh" is "eh". Two totally different words with different meanings.

"ay" is an affirmation, and "eh" is a question.

Swoop
5th August 2008, 10:58
Been stopped out West, at a random checkpoint that was set up outside a school.
Quite sneakily around the corner so that you had to commit to the corner before you saw the checkpoint (surprise, surprise). Had to stand the bike upright and come to a swift halt!:rolleyes:

Then the silly question time...
"Have you got a licence"
"Yup!"
"Can I see it?"
"It's in my backpack"
"Oh, OK. Is it a full licence?"
"Yup"
"OK, Off you go then"

All this with full disguise on (tinted visor, etc).

ManDownUnder
5th August 2008, 11:01
How often do you get stopped (with sensible legal driving) ?

...twice in 8 years and both times were for splitting. Sensible legal driving? I think I've ever been stopped for that...

avgas
5th August 2008, 11:10
i got stopped 16 times in 2 years on the RG......most were just warnings that i was being a dumbass.
Got stopped twice on the GB400's over 4 years.
Have never been stopped on the fazer - but i think im a pussy now and dont feel so immortal.

McDuck
5th August 2008, 11:17
I havnt been stoped on the 400. and long may it last.

Nagash
5th August 2008, 11:23
I've only been stopped once in the 3 years of riding and I ride like a bit of a cunt..

The time I got stopped was 100 in a 50 indicating through traffic.. was told to slow down and let off scott free. Counted my lucky stars that day.. I think I'm running out.

Fatjim
5th August 2008, 11:58
Can you rephrase the question to "how often do the cops try to stop you"

Dave-
5th August 2008, 12:02
checkpointed and stopped once.

vifferman
5th August 2008, 12:21
In 35 years, I've been stopped on the bike only twice where I wasn't ticketed. Once was a driver's licence checkpoint, and the other was when my MT250 had a blown taillight bulb, on account of having no battery (and no battery eliminator fitted). I knew the cop followed me on my backstreet trip, so rode with my foot resting on the brake pedal.
"Your taillight isn't working, but the brake light is."
"Oh... is that right? Huh. I'd better get a bulb tomorrow then."
"OK. Ride carefully."
Times stopped on bike for ticketing: 5. Four times for speeding in a 50km/h area, once for no mirror (just after the rules changed).
Times stopped in car: numerous. No tickets.
Never been pulled up while driving a truck or tractor or bus.

spudchucka
5th August 2008, 12:23
How often do you get stopped (with sensible legal driving) ?

At least three times a day and its always around the same time, smoko, (morning & afternoon) & lunch time, and occasionally when I happen to be driving past a doughnut shop too.

spudchucka
5th August 2008, 12:25
Can you rephrase the question to "how often do the cops try to stop you"

They'd never try and stop you, your avatar picture looks way to....... dangerous!

Lissa
5th August 2008, 12:26
Since getting my learners well over a year ago I have been stopped twice.

1. Coming out the driveway on my GN250, the cop was going down the road as I was about to come out the driveway. He gave me no reason for stopping me, except to say he wanted to check my licence, but when I said I didnt have it on me, he just told me to have a nice day. :sweatdrop

2. Going down the motorway, umm doing about 120kms (Didnt think the bandit could do it). Cop comes up to me and says "Thanks for stopping for me" and I replied "Well why wouldnt I?". :crazy: Not going to do a runner on my peice of crap bike. Anyway got a fine for 20kms over the speed limit. (although I am on my learners... so isnt it 50kms over the limit?) Anyway he apologised for giving me the ticket and told me to pay it as late as possible to keep the money in the bank.

I doubt this will be the last time I get stopped, but going to make sure I stick to the limits. :pinch:

jrandom
5th August 2008, 12:31
Anyway he apologised for giving me the ticket...

What the hell kind of bollocks is that?

:blink:

vifferman
5th August 2008, 12:35
What the hell kind of bollocks is that?

:blink:
Well, I'd guess it was because he had bollocks and Lissa didn't.

Lissa
5th August 2008, 12:36
What the hell kind of bollocks is that?

:blink:
No idea?? I think he felt sorry for me having to pay a ticket for a piece of crap bike??? Never asked him.

jrandom
5th August 2008, 12:39
No idea?? I think he felt sorry for me having to pay a ticket for a piece of crap bike???

Well, it's a bit like walking up to someone, saying "Sorry about this" and then giving them a smack in the chops, isn't it?

Not entirely sane behaviour in my books.

Lissa
5th August 2008, 12:43
Well, it's a bit like walking up to someone, saying "Sorry about this" and then giving them a smack in the chops, isn't it?

Not entirely sane behaviour in my books.
Suppose not, you think he should have let me off, I'm no good at trying to talk myself out of things, or trying to sweet talk the cops. I have no gripe I was speeding after all.

Big Dave
5th August 2008, 12:47
Bookings and busts not counting, I've been pulled over for a 'Licence check' on 2 occasions. Breath tested half a dozen times. WOF checked once.

Keep it all in order and it's no stress.

Pwalo
5th August 2008, 12:50
Never on the SV. Twice on the GS' for a donation to the government coffers. Much easier to read the speedo on the SV.

Fatjim
5th August 2008, 12:56
Suppose not, you think he should have let me off, I'm no good at trying to talk myself out of things,

You have tear glands don't you? USE THEM!!!!

slofox
5th August 2008, 13:08
I rode regular old bikes for yonks and never got stopped. Then I bought a Benelli which looked WAYYYYYY different. AT which point I got stopped by every goddam cop in town, mainly coz they wanted to gawk at the unusual beast.....didn't get ticketed, but was once reprimanded for wagging a finger at a copper who passed me on the highway........he assured me that my speedo read way over actual speed........musta been feeling guilty I reckon.......

Gremlin
5th August 2008, 13:30
Cheers for the thread... I just got pulled up shortly after midday... First one like this. :eek:

They didn't like my license plate being all dirty (it IS winter y'know). Anyway, I'll have to give it another clean, it was the sole reason they pulled me up too.

At least I can chalk it down to the first time I have ever been pulled up specifically, and not ridden away with a ticket :clap:

Kiwi Graham
5th August 2008, 14:37
In nearly 30 years riding about 6 times (excluding wof,reg and breath tests) all for valid reasons. Last time was on a Husaberg 650 wheel standing down Blockhouse bay road late at night coming home from work, Imagine..... pulled of the roundabout pulled it up on the power in 2nd into 3rd, snik 4th, down she comes puff of smoke and a satisfying squeal from the front tyre....slow down feeling pleased with myself and I'm bathed in a flashing blue and red glow!!!! In a hurry sir? blah blah blah

slofox
5th August 2008, 15:17
Last time was on a Husaberg 650 wheel standing down Blockhouse bay road

Blardy hoons...I dunno muttermuttermumublemumblesnortrantraveoink!!!! :whistle:

Maha
5th August 2008, 15:36
I never get stopped by the Police, I guess they can tell I am a cool bastard when they see my bike, dunno? :wait:
I have however, been given the fingers (both one and two) on the odd occassion.....:finger:

DarkLord
5th August 2008, 16:03
I ride a yellow Hyosung GT250R, on my L's although I don't wear an L plate. I've never been pulled over but I don't really do anything to warrant it, I'm pretty cautious at riding but also confident.

I have a friend who is a cop who says that if you don't do anything dangerous and just ride safely, L plates or not they will leave you alone.

LilSel
5th August 2008, 16:19
I have yet to be stopped on my bike :niceone:
If u ride responsibly u wont have any probs

alanzs
5th August 2008, 16:37
Suppose not, you think he should have let me off, I'm no good at trying to talk myself out of things, or trying to sweet talk the cops. I have no gripe I was speeding after all.

I hope you didn't thank him... :Oops:

bully
5th August 2008, 19:37
even burning around at 120, cops dont seem to bother pulling me up.

Toaster
5th August 2008, 19:40
maybe the cops have to save petrol nowdays..... budget must be tight!

Toaster
5th August 2008, 19:43
I never get stopped by the Police, I guess they can tell I am a cool bastard when they see my bike, dunno? :wait:
I have however, been given the fingers (both one and two) on the odd occassion.....:finger:

Lazy buggers!! But but but... I told them you were a badboy druggie, had a tinnie op in your roof with 12 illegal immigrant prostitutes in your bedroom (oh and Mom) and always carry at least an ounce of P in your wallet for an after lunch pick-me-up.:whistle:

westie
5th August 2008, 19:55
Never been pulled over by a copper but I have pulled over a copper.

No but really I did and he gave me a ticket(wanker)

Taz
5th August 2008, 20:23
I have been pulled over twice as much on the Ducati than on the BMW. Last time I was stopped on the Ducati I was cruising along at the speed limit and a cop was going the other way. I thought nothing of it and carried on only to discover flashing lights behind me at the end of a 3km straight. I asked why'd you pull me over? Was told Oh it's just a license and rego check and then asked lots of questions including "where do you work?" What's that got to do with anything officer? Oh nothing, don't worry about it..... :confused: Satisfied them after 5 mins on the side of the road then had to speed up a bit after that to get home in time to pick up the kids from school. I haven't had a ticket on the ducati but have had a fine on the BMW.:shifty:

Soooo... I think that sports bikes get more attention from Mr Plod for sure.....

Cr1MiNaL
5th August 2008, 20:28
I ride a yellow Hyosung GT250R, on my L's although I don't wear an L plate. I've never been pulled over but I don't really do anything to warrant it, I'm pretty cautious at riding but also confident.

I have a friend who is a cop who says that if you don't do anything dangerous and just ride safely, L plates or not they will leave you alone.

Cops lie, it all fails when you get a ticket :first: ;)

freddy72
5th August 2008, 20:39
I havn't been stopped for anything serious on the odd breath test or licence check at a check point

Dakara
5th August 2008, 20:40
Never been stopped on my bike, only been riding 4 years though. I've even come to check points, (breath testing and/or WOF+Rego) and just been waved through :woohoo:

dwnundabkr
5th August 2008, 20:53
in the last 5 years pulled over 7 times, 2 times for lane splitting and fined on both occasions (restricted license) on the xs650, 2 on the xv1000 1 for breath warrant and rego and the other was for going around the traffic and cutting in no fines on either, 3 times on the buell in the last 2 years 2 for checks usual rego,warrant, breath, 1 for supposed stolen bike after i had ridden between the cars at traffic lights no fines.

Patrick
5th August 2008, 20:54
some bikes are an oink magnet ay, brings them running squealing..

DB

Is that some sort of reference to PIGS? Take it back, or I am taking it international...


Anyway got a fine for 20kms over the speed limit. (although I am on my learners... so isnt it 50kms over the limit?)

Limit is 100, so your $120 for 20k over aint bad... Learners exceeding 70 is a $400 fine.

rachprice
5th August 2008, 20:57
Never been pulled over....you think I would with my rowdy thing (smoking and being loud) but no.....flatmate rode it and got pulled over 3 times haha

idleidolidyll
5th August 2008, 21:02
How often do you get stopped by police? (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1675716#post1675716)

A lot less now I've got a radar detector attached

racefactory
5th August 2008, 21:02
lol hey guys thanks for the many responses.

Yeah i don't know how my mate gets away with it- hes having loads of fun on that SV650, no L plates either.

I got stopped once for random check. One time he stopped cause he saw the bike ''smoking'' and wanted to see if i had rego and wof etc- little did he know it is a monsterous 2 smoker in perfectly good order.

Renegade
5th August 2008, 21:09
ive never been stopped on my bike, and not in a car in the last 10years,\.

Its easy to spot riders that shouldnt be riding by looking at the way they handle their bike and the gear they aren't wearing, like gloves :Oi:

icekiwi
5th August 2008, 21:12
3 Tickets last 8 mths....walking...
never been given a warning, always get the paperwork..

Drew
5th August 2008, 21:12
The trick is...dont stop.

peasea
5th August 2008, 21:58
IMHO what you wear and what you ride makes a difference.

Joe Average biker in a Gortex jacket or similar on a Boulevard probably won't get hassled. On a big inch sportsbike, with racy leathers etc, you're a target and just as much so if you wear dark sunnies, a black leather jacket and an open face on a Harley.

"Just a routine check" is the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard, it's always a fishing trip. However, it's satisfying to be legal and all 'papered-up' when some spotty-faced hero-wannabe hassles you. Funny-as when they don't even know what it is they're looking at. That's when the sport begins. Older, more experienced cops tend to give up when they find nothing to fine you for, they are less likely to be trying to prove something.

You'll do more k's per "routine inspection" out of the big cities and you'll do them faster, generally speaking. Radar detectors are the best investment ever. Far better than Hanover etc......

I got stopped all the friggin' time in Auckland and thereabouts for "routine checks". Glad to be out of the shithole.

marty
5th August 2008, 22:01
Stopped the other night on the way to work - undertook a car that stopped unexpectedly in the middle of the road in cambridge - took 5kms to catch me (i was doing 100km/h) on sh1 north of town.

'oh it's only you.....have a nice night :)'

!^%km/h over the tairua bridge on a coro loop......stationary radar facing the other way - not stopped! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIC3cP1sBXc

!*)km/h south of kopu towards paeroa - don't even know if they turned around......

there's a few others - random stops for all sorts of reasons. nothing to get too stressed about

blue eyed savage
5th August 2008, 22:07
never pull over on my bike.
just dont speed (excessively) and its all good.

caseye
5th August 2008, 22:15
No times in 15 yrs, then once in the last 6 months for speeding on the open road(Monday afternoon, no one there, wide open 3 lanes) outside of Rotten Rua.Was going to get away from the stench!
Poor old Mr Plod was happy I stopped for him, still gave me the ticket for 120K's,I argued that shes an old bike and my speedo said 112 but he wouldnt budge, was a time, that this was a stern talking too on the side of the open road, no one about and see you later.
not anymore, Ah huh another scalp for my ticket book, wont the boss be impressed.

Mike748
5th August 2008, 22:24
In the last 2 years I have been stopped three times at checkpoints, and have had the red and blues flashed at me twice to remind me to check my speed! for which I have been very grateful :sweatdrop

McJim
5th August 2008, 22:24
I ride a VTR 250 that looks like a bigger bike to the uneducated eye, and am on my learners still :pinch:

That's only coz you're tiny - I made my VTR250 look like a toy - in fact someone saw a photo of me on my Ducati and said "Nice pocket bike mate"

I need a bigger bike....

I have never been stopped on my bike. Once I was waved through a check point at Maraetai Beach but that's it. Only ever been breath tested once and that was in a cage.

St_Gabriel
5th August 2008, 22:29
Originally Posted by Lissa
Anyway got a fine for 20kms over the speed limit. (although I am on my learners... so isnt it 50kms over the limit?)


Limit is 100, so your $120 for 20k over aint bad... Learners exceeding 70 is a $400 fine.

So.... Just out of curiousity, can you get the 400 hundy for not abiding by the conditions of licence and the $xxx for exceeding speed limit by 20 km/h, or is it 400 hundy for the licence and $xxx+ for exceeding speed limit by 50 km/h???, or alternatively, just the 400 hundy for not abiding by the licence conditions and no further repercussions (would prefer the legal, asshole cop and nice cop answers) cheers

St_Gabriel
5th August 2008, 22:31
oh, and to answer the question, dont have a bike but stopped 3 times for speeding (and usually others like no WOF/Rego etc ) in cage, booked only once :D

peasea
5th August 2008, 22:42
In the last 2 years I have been stopped three times at checkpoints, and have had the red and blues flashed at me twice to remind me to check my speed! for which I have been very grateful :sweatdrop

A rarity in these cash-grabbing days. Lucky you.

peasea
5th August 2008, 22:44
So.... Just out of curiousity, can you get the 400 hundy for not abiding by the conditions of licence and the $xxx for exceeding speed limit by 20 km/h, or is it 400 hundy for the licence and $xxx+ for exceeding speed limit by 50 km/h???, or alternatively, just the 400 hundy for not abiding by the licence conditions and no further repercussions (would prefer the legal, asshole cop and nice cop answers) cheers

Pick the highest figure. They always do.

MaxB
5th August 2008, 22:44
Don't get stopped at checkpoints. They tend to wave me through.

But I think if you ride enough ks for enough years you will be ticketed eventually.

spudchucka
6th August 2008, 06:42
So.... Just out of curiousity, can you get the 400 hundy for not abiding by the conditions of licence and the $xxx for exceeding speed limit by 20 km/h, or is it 400 hundy for the licence and $xxx+ for exceeding speed limit by 50 km/h???, or alternatively, just the 400 hundy for not abiding by the licence conditions and no further repercussions (would prefer the legal, asshole cop and nice cop answers) cheers

Firstly the 70kph restriction is a loud of bollocks. I don't see what could possibly be considered safe about a learner bike rider being restricted to 70kph while on 100kph roads and having cattle trucks and all manner of other traffic tailgating them because they are legally stuck at that speed.

However, if you get nabbed for exceeding the 70kph restriction the correct fine is for breaching the condition of your licence, $400. If you get issued a ticket for exceeding the speed limit in these circumstances but your actual speed was less than the posted speed limit then I would defend it. If you got caught doing in excess of 100km/h you would then be liable for both the licence breach (+70kph - $400) and for exceeding the posted speed limit (100kph - $$$ depending on how far over you are).

fatzx10r
6th August 2008, 07:03
The trick is...dont stop.

that's it:innocent:

Jdogg
6th August 2008, 08:43
On the bike ..Never, In the cage over the last 15 years driving it would be about 50-60 times generally just rego warrant checks or the old "someone that fits your description was seen (insert crime here)" , doesnt help that I lived in a small town but I would get pulled up at least twice a day, it was pretty much just the local coppers way of letting us know we are being watched (we were all hoons at some point), I didnt actually get a ticket until I moved to Auckland in '03 then i got 3 speeding tickets in 3 months , got a radar detector after that and never had a problem since :innocent:

007XX
6th August 2008, 09:03
That's only coz you're tiny - I made my VTR250 look like a toy - in fact someone saw a photo of me on my Ducati and said "Nice pocket bike mate"

I need a bigger bike....

Good point I s'pose...but I ain't that tiny! You know how Chihuahuas act like they're Dobbermans? It's all about spirit mate :laugh:


I have never been stopped on my bike. Once I was waved through a check point at Maraetai Beach but that's it. Only ever been breath tested once and that was in a cage.

That's cos no cop in its right mind wants to stop a kilt wearing rider...*"put it way, put it away", they cried!

mark247
6th August 2008, 09:12
Iv been stopped 5 times in the last 12 months. 3 of those were all in one week.

orographic
6th August 2008, 11:30
I can only give my data-points in relation to cages, because, well, I haven't got on the road with a bike, yet, but ...

I have been pulled over precisely twice

first was well after hours on a restricted license, although a cop never checked. He'd seen me pull out of a petrol station, without my lights on ( after dark) , and followed me down the road a little. No ticket but a "please check that your lights are on in future"

second was after doing a U turn at traffic lights ( without no u - turn signs up ), to get to a petrol station. Cop followed me into the petrol station and indicated a come here to me. He told me that I wasn't allowed to do a u-turn at traffic lights, and that this was in the road code and was saying he'd send me an infringement in the mail.

The infringement notice never turned up, and I did look though the road code, and didn't find it, so, I'm of the option that that cop, was just being a dick that day. oh well.

I just hope that the rest of his life got better from there :innocent:

Patrick
6th August 2008, 16:33
So.... Just out of curiousity, can you get the 400 hundy for not abiding by the conditions of licence and the $xxx for exceeding speed limit by 20 km/h, or is it 400 hundy for the licence and $xxx+ for exceeding speed limit by 50 km/h???, or alternatively, just the 400 hundy for not abiding by the licence conditions and no further repercussions (would prefer the legal, asshole cop and nice cop answers) cheers


Pick the highest figure. They always do.

Legal:

$400 for exceeding 70kmph on a learners licence. Speed limit is still 100kmph so doing 120kmph is a speeding ticket for 20kpmh over the limit. You will not be ticketed for 50kmph over the 70kmph learner restriction...

Nice cop:

Up to the cop on if he gave you both, or one, or told you off.

Arsehole cop:

Hello Mr Peasea... Here is your ticket for the highest speed you were doing, another for the time I didn't stop ya, another for the time I warned ya but now changed my mind, exceeding the 70k limit on ya learners, smokey vehicle, worn tyres, number plate displayed incorrectly, faulty light, impeding traffic, wasting Police time, careless use, dangerous use, and one for doing 120 exceeding the 70k limit by 50kmph on ya learners, so you are now suspended and walking from here... coz it will be funny to see his face change through all the possible colours of red fury... and the froth at the mouth...:sunny:

peasea
6th August 2008, 16:51
Legal:

$400 for exceeding 70kmph on a learners licence. Speed limit is still 100kmph so doing 120kmph is a speeding ticket for 20kpmh over the limit. You will not be ticketed for 50kmph over the 70kmph learner restriction...

Nice cop:

Up to the cop on if he gave you both, or one, or told you off.

Arsehole cop:

Hello Mr Peasea... Here is your ticket for the highest speed you were doing, another for the time I didn't stop ya, another for the time I warned ya but now changed my mind, exceeding the 70k limit on ya learners, smokey vehicle, worn tyres, number plate displayed incorrectly, faulty light, impeding traffic, wasting Police time, careless use, dangerous use, and one for doing 120 exceeding the 70k limit by 50kmph on ya learners, so you are now suspended and walking from here... coz it will be funny to see his face change through all the possible colours of red fury... and the froth at the mouth...:sunny:

Which one are you?

"Last time I warned ya" indeed....That would have been donkey's years ago, for sure; warnings are practically a thing of the past. In fact, the last time I recieved any leniency from a copper I WAS on a learners (on a 1340, bahaha) and he let it slide. I took his advice, rode home and left it there for a couple of weeks until the time came for me to get my full. (OK, it took 28 years but I did get one.) He was the last half decent cop I met, about 2002.

The rest have been .... (see above quote, second paragraph.)

I've stated elsewhere on this site that riding a Harley in a leather jacket with dark sunnies and an open face MAKES A DIFFERENCE! You are targetted by the revenue gatherers who think (and it cannot be denied) "oh there must be a few dollars to be earned with this character" and they sometimes get annoyed and even confrontational, when there isn't. It's called 'pushing buttons'.

I'm not ALWAYS on the recieving end and it's interesting to watch it go down when others are being hassled. You sit there thinking "oh for a video camera" coz nobody will believe you if you don't have it on film. Least of all a court or the PCA.

As for 'nice cop', which beat is he/she on? (Derek Erasmus' patch perhaps?)

Patrick
6th August 2008, 16:57
Which one are you?

More warnings than tickets.... Auckland, the Shore, Northland, Naki...

k14
6th August 2008, 16:57
Haven't been stopped for over 5 years. Drive over 40000kms a year :)

peasea
6th August 2008, 17:24
More warnings than tickets.... Auckland, the Shore, Northland, Naki...

Ya big fibber....

peasea
6th August 2008, 17:28
Haven't been stopped for over 5 years. Drive over 40000kms a year :)

Oh I normally do a truckload of k's, rarely get stopped in the car, last ticket I got in the car was on a downhill run on the North Shore, no major. Just ran over the limit a bit, tough. However, trying to even get OUT of Auckland (on the bike) often was cause for drama.

S'funny; toured the mainland three times now and NOT ONE ticket, ever, bike or car. Plus we've been on a few excursions since we moved south. There are less cops per k; a simple numbers game.

idleidolidyll
6th August 2008, 17:34
Keep it all in order and it's no stress.

Only if they do too.
If the cop is a wanker and it's inevitable that I'm gonna get a ticket I go out of my way to piss them off and with luck, make them angry all day.

Last time that happened a cop pulled me for 68 in a 50. I was dead to rights and happy to pay the bill.
The cop was a tosser though and got smart.

Eventually he asked me if I kept an eye on my speedo and I said
"not enough to avoid the fuzz obviously but looking at the speedo takes your eye off the road and it's fukkin dangerous to do it too often."

That got him more obnoxious and the young punk started questioning my 30+ years riding skills. I said "Mate, do ya know how quickly one of these 1300cc bikes accelerates? You can go from 50 to 70 in the blink of an eye. Do you even HAVE a bike licence?"

"Yes" he said

"I bet it's a learners ya young punk" says I and his mate starts giggling and trying to stifle it in the background.

"Yes, it is" he says, "but bla bla bla bla etc"

I just laughed and wound him up more and more as his cop mate cracked up in the background.
I got my ticket in the end, he left fuming and red faced and I laughed and laughed all day.

A stupid young punk is still a stupid young punk uniform or no

SPman
6th August 2008, 19:34
In NZ stopped and ticketed on average, once a year - usually 118-130k - the same basic cruise speed I've done on the highways for over 30 years. Seldom got pulled over in days of yore, but, since about '99 - 2000, noticed it was getting harder and harder to avoid it. And the cops seem young and more arrogant - I get pissed off being lectured about how dangerous exceeding 100k on the road is, by a young punk who rides a trail bike!

In WA, in 2 yrs, out of the city I've seen 2 cops on the road and been pulled over for a roadside breath/license check in the local village, once. Still cruise at the same speed.

PrincessBandit
6th August 2008, 19:54
Never been pulled over. Stopped at checkpoints for WOF/rego but never singled out for "individual attention". Even the muftis i've passed when, um, not sticking to the speed limit must consider me too boring or insignificant to show any interest in. Happy to keep it that way! :yes:

peasea
6th August 2008, 19:58
In NZ stopped and ticketed on average, once a year - usually 118-130k - the same basic cruise speed I've done on the highways for over 30 years. Seldom got pulled over in days of yore, but, since about '99 - 2000, noticed it was getting harder and harder to avoid it. And the cops seem young and more arrogant - I get pissed off being lectured about how dangerous exceeding 100k on the road is, by a young punk who rides a trail bike!

In WA, in 2 yrs, out of the city I've seen 2 cops on the road and been pulled over for a roadside breath/license check in the local village, once. Still cruise at the same speed.

It's because they have a quota! Oops, sorry, 'performance expectation'. And yes, the younger ones are a problem, it's far easier to deal with, talk to and accept a ticket from someone who doesn't have an 'attitude'.

Cops talk about passing their 'attitude test' but I have one for THEM to pass also. No pass means no manners from me. I treat people the way they treat me and I speak when I'm spoken to at the roadside, so it's their 'first contact'. If it's a baddie they get an earful.

fLaThEaD FreD
6th August 2008, 20:10
When I ride I wear Cordura jacket ,Draggens,black fullface helmet and boots and never been stopped in that attire. The first time I went for a late afternoon ride wearing Draggens,black leather jacket and black shorty helmet shades and facewarmer,I got stopped. Doing 50k in no traffic he passed me in the opposite direction then turned to follow me. After aprox .5 km I turned a right at some lights and next thing the blue and reds were on so I just pulled over. I dismounted and removed my helmet and shades and was greeted with are you xxx and asked my address.
With my unmasked appearence he said ok just a routine check enjoy your ride.
Off I went..........He knew my name ,had my address........he must have known i only had a learners and plain to see the bike was 800cc......was it becaos im an old fart or did he think he had a plum?:scooter:

gunrunner
6th August 2008, 20:14
Never been stopped on my bike - so far. Here's to hoping it remains that way.



You drive tractors don't you? :scratch:



Yeah, I've never tried the 76 - but I have a feeling I'll prefer the 69 ;)

Yeah, and dont brake to soon or you WILL be in the shit :Punk:

peasea
6th August 2008, 20:25
When I ride I wear Cordura jacket ,Draggens,black fullface helmet and boots and never been stopped in that attire. The first time I went for a late afternoon ride wearing Draggens,black leather jacket and black shorty helmet shades and facewarmer,I got stopped. Doing 50k in no traffic he passed me in the opposite direction then turned to follow me. After aprox .5 km I turned a right at some lights and next thing the blue and reds were on so I just pulled over. I dismounted and removed my helmet and shades and was greeted with are you xxx and asked my address.
With my unmasked appearence he said ok just a routine check enjoy your ride.
Off I went..........He knew my name ,had my address........he must have known i only had a learners and plain to see the bike was 800cc......was it becaos im an old fart or did he think he had a plum?:scooter:

I rest my case.

Matt_TG
6th August 2008, 21:01
I got my ticket in the end, he left fuming and red faced and I laughed and laughed all day.



Too right, it's hilarious having to pay Helen Clark's crowd money ! I love doing it too, I can't stop giggling every time I pay tax :Punk:

Never been pulled up on the bike, but I ride like a nana anyway.

Fatjim
7th August 2008, 08:51
Firstly the 70kph restriction is a loud of bollocks. I don't see what could possibly be considered safe about a learner bike rider being restricted to 70kph while on 100kph roads and having cattle trucks and all manner of other traffic tailgating them because they are legally stuck at that speed.


You're right. The law should be that learners shouldn't go on roads posted greater than 70kph as they are obviously too stupid to know that 70 on a 100k road is dangerous.

Morcs
7th August 2008, 10:09
oh... legal riding... ummm... don't think ever? :mellow: Been stopped 4-5 times I think in 3.5 years, ticket every time. Get waved through every checkpoint, no checking, I normally slow down, lift visor etc, so I guess they expect I'm fine, and can't be bothered.

now... where's Morcs? :laugh:

I dont get stopped that much...

Its just when I do, we (me and old bill) tend to make the most of it...

screamer
7th August 2008, 10:41
I dont get stopped that much...

Its just when I do, we (me and old bill) tend to make the most of it...

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme And your monthly average would be ?

Morcs
7th August 2008, 12:51
:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme And your monthly average would be ?

Less than one.

Ive only been pulled over twice this year. 1 was a warning, other was a roadblock, and the other two were worth $1k each.

Gremlin
7th August 2008, 14:16
Ive only been pulled over twice this year. 1 was a warning, other was a roadblock, and the other two were worth $1k each.
Ummm.... is it just me thats not getting the right answer to the maths question? :blink:

Albownz
7th August 2008, 14:42
I have been stopped for a variety of reasons, some reasonable, some less so.

There have been the obvious mass wof and rego checks, mass breath checks , a check to see if I was carrying an escaped prisoner. One check I can recall was not accompanied by any explanation but he seemed to loose interest when he saw the colour of my hair.

I think the most memorable was the occasion where I was stopped in town and asked to remove my helmet, then the silk balaclava, then got "Sorry you aren't who I thought you were." To my knowledge I was the only persion riding a B50SS in town around then so God knows who I was supposed to be.

By the way people, the correct spelling of "ay" or whatever is "eh".
It is only two letters afterall and shouldn't provide an insurmountable challenge. No offence intended :-)
the correct spelling of person is person not persion. Jeezuz :)

90s
7th August 2008, 14:45
Stopped several times in mass WOF-checks etc.
Only stopped once on spec - I was in front of a patrol car at a level crossing and he pulled me over to check my licence etc. He had no issues and then I was on my way.

Morcs
7th August 2008, 15:21
Ummm.... is it just me thats not getting the right answer to the maths question? :blink:

Ah. I meant ive only be pulled over for good reason twice this year.

portokiwi
7th August 2008, 15:22
:2guns: Never been stopped yet........
Proberly will now:doh:

avgas
7th August 2008, 15:28
Iv been stopped 5 times in the last 12 months. 3 of those were all in one week.
I feel for you man - on a recent trip down that way i found the run i used to do as a kid between Kati and TGA is now all 80K!
WTF!
whoever changed that to 80K needs to go get some pussy or some thing.
fucking asshole

Number One
7th August 2008, 15:44
Feels like tempting fate to post in here. Have been pulled over twice on the bike. Was being a bit naughty the first time but talked my way out of it as I was a learner at the time and the throttle was sticking :whistle: after helping me to look the bike over a bit we couldn't find anything obvious that was causing the problem and he just told me to take it easy and be careful. Thankyou officer...:hug:

The second time I was splitting on the motorway in stopped still rush hour traffic. Used to commute from UHutt to Wellington everyday and this particular day I was running a tad late and had the little RG150 going along quite nicely...little bit of middle splitting little bit of breakdown lane all going nicely....so nicely that I didn't notice the cop bike as I carved him up :rofl: and didn't also see that he had tried to 'catch' me. Sadly for me he called ahead and a car copper pulled me over and made me wait for him to catch me up...took blardy forever too I might say :lol:

Before ticketing me for 'riding in a lane unavailable' he commended me rather enthusiastically on my control and confidence on the bike and said that he had tried to follow me (from Lower Hutt lights) but just couldn't keep up (to which I thought well there's a good reason why I don't commute on an ST1100 mate!) he said he knew he was going to catch me anyway by calling ahead to his mates in the cars they had posted on the overpass before Aotea off ramp...DAMMIT! Could've done without that delay :lol: naughty girl :rolleyes: SO Welly bikers! Be aware (if you haven't already seen them do it) that in summer they load up the overpass with car and bike coppers to get us all.

mark247
7th August 2008, 15:52
I feel for you man - on a recent trip down that way i found the run i used to do as a kid between Kati and TGA is now all 80K!
WTF!
whoever changed that to 80K needs to go get some pussy or some thing.
fucking asshole

Yea, you know it's getting bad when the pigs send you a nice little excel table in the mail listing all the infringments you have and how many demerits you have =/

outlawtorn
7th August 2008, 15:53
I only get stopped when riding naked and reading the morning paper.........

slofox
7th August 2008, 15:57
the correct spelling of person is person not persion. Jeezuz :)

Have you noticed that the 'i' and the 'o' are adjacent on a keyboard? If you have fat fingers like me, you may well split those two keys and thus produce 'persion".....(my alt nick is "fatfingerfox".....)

mstriumph
7th August 2008, 16:05
i've been stopped in the cage ............
but then, it's a tiny cage and they can see i'm middle-aged and female with glasses ........

i don't get stopped on the bike
but then, it's a powerful bike and all they can see of ME under the gear is that i'm tall and confident with good shoulders and a slow, direct, stare ......

they pick their targets
they pick ON people they think they can intimidate and browbeat

bullies were ever thus

mister.koz
7th August 2008, 16:17
stopped twice for booze checkpoints, 1st time i didn't have my learners yet, the british cop took my details and went off to write the ticket without hearing a story. He said sorry for the ticket once he heard my story, got my learners 3 days later SIGH! $400 bucks for a lesson that worked for 3 days!

2nd time the chick-cop just smiled and said "this is a breath test to test for alcohol, state your name" and then "thats fine ride on"

in retrospect it would have been cooler if she said rock on but what can i do.

Patrick
7th August 2008, 16:37
And yes, the younger ones are a problem, it's far easier to deal with, talk to and accept a ticket from someone who doesn't have an 'attitude'.

Cops talk about passing their 'attitude test' but I have one for THEM to pass also. No pass means no manners from me. I treat people the way they treat me and I speak when I'm spoken to at the roadside, so it's their 'first contact'. If it's a baddie they get an earful.

To use your comment with amendments here...

And yes the younger ones are a problem, it's far easier to deal with, talk to and warn someone who doesn't have an attitude...

I too treat and speak to people how they treat and speak to me... They start it, I finish it. If it's a baddie, they get a quota full....

peasea
7th August 2008, 16:59
To use your comment with amendments here...

And yes the younger ones are a problem, it's far easier to deal with, talk to and warn someone who doesn't have an attitude...

I too treat and speak to people how they treat and speak to me... They start it, I finish it. If it's a baddie, they get a quota full....

You HAVE to be way over 30 then.........

For the most part, with age comes experience but (because of all down sides to being a copper) many of those with experience find another way to earn a living. (A bit of a generalisation...) We often get stuck with ten cent, spotty wannabe heroes on the frontline and when you get to MY age the last thing you're gonna tolerate is some glaring advertisement for Clearasil handing out a lecture.

Mind you, as I've gathered a few years I'm less inclined to retaliate physically and IF there's a problem I'll use the so-called 'proper' channels. The less said and done in anger on the side of the road the better, especially if there are witnesses.

idleidolidyll
8th August 2008, 20:21
Too right, it's hilarious having to pay Helen Clark's crowd money ! I love doing it too, I can't stop giggling every time I pay tax :Punk:

Never been pulled up on the bike, but I ride like a nana anyway.

mate, I'm HAPPY to pay $120 to piss a cop off all day long.

If it weren't for the points I'd choose to do it at least once a month; the money is peanuts

zxcvbnm
8th August 2008, 21:29
I got stopped in 1988 for doing 120 (est) in a 50km, got done for a WOF. Others where for random motorbickle night checks that I just did runners from in the end :)

Haven't been stopped for any thing for years apart from alcohol/WOF/reg checks.

mstriumph
8th August 2008, 21:45
To use your comment with amendments here...

And yes the younger ones are a problem, it's far easier to deal with, talk to and warn someone who doesn't have an attitude...

I too treat and speak to people how they treat and speak to me... They start it, I finish it. If it's a baddie, they get a quota full....

Patrick, Patrick, Patrick ...... [may i call you Patrick?]
people like me - we NEVER 'start' it ..... we are far too well-mannered to brawl in public ............... and far too modest to think of ourselves as mentors for public servants ........

but when i get spoken to, apropros of nothing, in an overbearing an over-familiar way by someone who looks as though he's scarce out of nappies....
someone who obviously doesn't have either the smarts or the confidence to realise that you catch more wasps with honey than you do with vinegar .... then i WILL get out of my tiny car, rear up to my full height, look at him down the length of my aristocratic nose and point out to him, gently but succinctly, the error of his ways in treating a member of the public with the sort of contempt his attitude displays

you don't like that? ---- to be truthful, i don't like it either ..... fundamental manners, people skills and the respect that one human being should display towards another are skills he should either have learnt at his mother's knee or in kindergarten cop school ........ but if those responsible for him have failed it would be remiss of me to fail him too. :no:

have a nice weekend

racefactory
8th August 2008, 22:39
So is the fine a normal $400 dollar one for driving a bike bigger than a 250 on your learners? Or is is less?

Ixion
8th August 2008, 22:44
$400. 25 demerits. Each time. Breach of licence conditions.

mark247
8th August 2008, 23:26
So is the fine a normal $400 dollar one for driving a bike bigger than a 250 on your learners? Or is is less?

$400 and 25 demerits like what has been said. I got done for that once before i got my exemption, i was stupid enough to keep riding and got pulled up again before i had my exemption but he let me off that time, then i got PULLED UP AGAIN with out my exemption and this cop wrote me another ticket but stated on it that if i get my exemption in 28 days i can get the ticket wiped. So yea, pulled up 3 times for the same thing but only 1 fine... lucky me... but i should of learnt my lession the first time...

Patrick
9th August 2008, 11:38
people like me - we NEVER 'start' it ..... we are far too well-mannered to brawl in public ............... and far too modest to think of ourselves as mentors for public servants ........

but when i get spoken to, apropros of nothing, in an overbearing an over-familiar way by someone who looks as though he's scarce out of nappies....
then i WILL get out of my tiny car, rear up to my full height, look at him down the length of my aristocratic nose and point out to him, gently but succinctly, the error of his ways in treating a member of the public with the sort of contempt his attitude displays

you don't like that? ---- to be truthful, i don't like it either ..... fundamental manners, people skills and the respect that one human being should display towards another are skills he should either have learnt at his mother's knee or in kindergarten cop school ........ but if those responsible for him have failed it would be remiss of me to fail him too. :no:

have a nice weekend

Was speaking of myself... can't do much about those you talk of, unless I am fortunate enough to catch them out doing that shit. Swift kick on the arse polishes boots best.... but you can't do that.

Re-read my post. With me, THEY always start it. I talk how I want to be spoken to. When THEY up the ante, well, you know the rest...:shutup:

You getting out of your car etc etc and firing up after they have pissed you off - I do like that!!!:love:

It is exactly what those you talk of need. That one time might last him/her a life time and they learn from it. Others, it is in one ear and out the other, but their time will come... be it a smack in the head or a PCA...

And hey - you have a nice weekend too... I'm off to a Jmaes Bond Party - only the birthday dude is the one and only James - everyone else is the baddies or Bond chicks. Should be fun.....