New V5 VFR1000F announced [Archive]

Mort

8th August 2008, 11:23

yod

8th August 2008, 11:27

oh hell YES :drool:

thats me

take a number and get in line

Deano

8th August 2008, 11:30

Some tool with a small penis will be along soon to say it's a fags bike.

Cajun

8th August 2008, 11:31

wouldn't trust mcn.co.uk

looks like another one of there photoshops, looks cool bar the headlight

yod

8th August 2008, 11:32

Some tool with a small penis will be along soon to say it's a fags bike.

indubitably

won't stop me from buying one tho

vifferman

8th August 2008, 11:46

wouldn't trust mcn.co.uk

looks like another one of there photoshops, looks cool bar the headlight
I dunno if it is a photoshop - if it was they'd have included more elements from the current VFR. There's an awful lot there that looks new, and very little (apart form the rear wheel) that looks derived from the current model. All previous photoshops I've seen have just been an amalgamation of VFR and CBR bits - this looks almost completely original.

Fatjim

8th August 2008, 11:56

I think its too good to be true, and if it is, imagine the price!

The CB1000R is 19k new ain't it? replaced the cb900F at 11k. The VFR is 16k?

I guess the F will be 21k, while the GT will be 24kish. Just a guess. It's not Honda riders that are fags, its Blue Wing!

James Deuce

8th August 2008, 12:02

I dunno if it is a photoshop - if it was they'd have included more elements from the current VFR. There's an awful lot there that looks new, and very little (apart form the rear wheel) that looks derived from the current model. All previous photoshops I've seen have just been an amalgamation of VFR and CBR bits - this looks almost completely original.
That is a combination of CB1000R, the new CBR1000R, the new CB600RR, and the old (current) VFR800. There is even a vertical connector pipe for the underseat exhaust complete with heat shield from the current VFR800.

Typical MCN rubbish.

Mikkel

8th August 2008, 12:05

I was thinking photoshop watching those images. Hard to put a finger on what does it - but just doesn't seem real.

Why would you have the big beefy exhaust pipe down low and still have piping going up to an under-tail exhaust?

Swoop

8th August 2008, 12:12

There are two different exhaust outlets there.

The single headlight looks like a gixer.:puke:

Also, I don't like mirrors with indicators in them. They suck.

Red bike: Does the pillion peg-arm look cut out and pasted on to you??

R6_kid

8th August 2008, 12:13

Im with mr Deuce here...

Anyone notice how the frame stops abrubptly and all of a sudden theres a rocker cover there... awesome, so the tank is holding the whole lot together.

Mountlocal1

8th August 2008, 12:17

I hate to say it but yeah.... Looks like photoshop.. Where is our resident VFR expert....

Ahem!

Mort

8th August 2008, 12:18

There is even a vertical connector pipe for the underseat exhaust complete with heat shield from the current VFR800.

Typical MCN rubbish.

Aha... yes - why would it have that pipe ?.... well check out the drawing below - that is a pipe going from the rear cylinders to the main exhaust.

Im with mr Deuce here...

Anyone notice how the frame stops abrubptly and all of a sudden theres a rocker cover there... awesome, so the tank is holding the whole lot together.

Checkout the frame.... it uses the engine as part of the frame.

I admit I am sceptical..... I know what MCN is like but you never know

Chrislost

8th August 2008, 12:27

Aha... yes - why would it have that pipe ?.... well check out the drawing below - that is a pipe going from the rear cylinders to the main exhaust.

Checkout the frame.... it uses the engine as part of the frame.

I admit I am sceptical..... I know what MCN is like but you never know

nice...
so the engine will break after a few wheelies, meaning you cant even make a go-cart out of it.
dam...

James Deuce

8th August 2008, 12:32

Aha... yes - why would it have that pipe ?.... well check out the drawing below - that is a pipe going from the rear cylinders to the main exhaust.

Checkout the frame.... it uses the engine as part of the frame.

I admit I am sceptical..... I know what MCN is like but you never know

That actually makes sense now. More CB1000R than CBR, with a few twists of its own. It still looks like too much of an amalgam to be true, but you never know. The 929/954 'blade headlight is throwing up alarms for me as well.

I'd be happy to admit I was wrong though.

imdying

8th August 2008, 12:35

That is a combination of CB1000R, the new CBR1000R, the new CB600RR, and the old (current) VFR800. There is even a vertical connector pipe for the underseat exhaust complete with heat shield from the current VFR800.

Typical MCN rubbish.

That would be the rear bank of cylinders?

However, that said, I'm with you... looks like a chop... GSXR indicators, and why when the bars are at seemingly the same height are they using different throttle blocks on the right hand bar?

lostinflyz

8th August 2008, 12:52

shaft drive????

Till honda says it i beleive nothing. but it is pretty. minus the exhaust. and that upright exhaust section is a long way from the rear of the engine. and whats all this nonsense about push button gear changes???

avgas

8th August 2008, 12:56

yep it looks to be another rubbish bike, great for trading your goldwing in for.
Shame really as the VFR800 is not a bad bike - quite sporty even

Qkchk

8th August 2008, 13:00

Needs to be posted under the thread 'Yet another VFR1000 rumour....'

Deano

8th August 2008, 13:12

nice...
so the engine will break after a few wheelies

Nah, it's not a Gixxer

Kiwi Graham

8th August 2008, 13:27

If its true I'd be very interested. Have had a V4 and thought it was awsome so a V5!!!!!!! MCN think its April 1st all year I dont think they know whats real themselves anymore!! :wacko:
I agree certain elaments of the picture look unreal. The rear footrest, the dimensions of the front header pipe to the rear bank of cylinders (bloody wide'V' eh!) and the fact it looks like a parts bin exercise. I guess we shall just have to wait and see.

Mountlocal1

8th August 2008, 14:51

Ok.. I just gt off the phone to *** **** (Japanese lady) who is the product manager for ******** honda... I managed to get out of her that there is a new model being "announced" in september 09 but she and all honda dealers have been told to keep all details secret and deny any knowledge of the above by Honda Japan.

scracha

8th August 2008, 15:13

Looks like a lardy sports tourer to me. I don't want a lardy sports tourer. The first viffer's were proper sportsbikes. V4, V5 or V6...any will do. I want a V version of the CBR600 with pneumatic valves, a 25000rpm rev limit, a slipper clutch, traction control, >125 ponies and a wet weight < 150Kg. Is that too much to ask....sheesh.

Mountlocal1

8th August 2008, 15:22

Swoop

8th August 2008, 16:48

I want a V version of the CBR600 with pneumatic valves, a 25000rpm rev limit, a slipper clutch, traction control, >125 ponies and a wet weight < 150Kg. Is that too much to ask....sheesh.
When you are placing your order, I'll be calling "shotgun seconds!" to that.

Crasherfromwayback

8th August 2008, 17:06

Photoshop or not...should it look like that...it'd be the first Honda in ages that's given me a chubby!

Sully60

8th August 2008, 17:11

What I want to know is who the fuck does MCN think they're going to fool with this shit?

MGST

8th August 2008, 18:00

What I want to know is who the fuck does MCN think they're going to fool with this shit?

Some people here?:whistle:

Mort

8th August 2008, 20:27

Full Article here (http://issuu.com/motorcyclenews/docs/mcnsampler060808)

The CBR1100R is also going to be made according to this ...!! I love that bike.

Deano

8th August 2008, 21:14

I want a V version of the CBR600 with pneumatic valves, a 25000rpm rev limit, a slipper clutch, traction control, >125 ponies and a wet weight < 150Kg. Is that too much to ask....sheesh.

You sound like Hitler after his VFR was written off and replaced with a GS.

Pumba

8th August 2008, 22:00

For that purpose, Honda retains the shaft final drive and the single-sided swingarm that is a VFR specific feature

Retains the shaft drive, hmmmmm, I didnt think the VFR had ever had a shaft drive:pinch:

Swoop

8th August 2008, 22:14

Sooo much photoslop out there.:lol:

huck farley

9th August 2008, 09:17

Honda has announced a few new bikes for 2009 The one that interests me and will a lot of other Honda fans is the fact that Honda is putting the V5 motor in the new VFR model this churning out 150 pony's at the back wheel. The bike looks super but the back seat doesn't look that pillion friendly. On that alone I may have to give it a wide berth. Shame really as it's a wonderfully stylish machine.

Fatjim

9th August 2008, 09:18

repost!

10char

Zoolander

9th August 2008, 10:23

Whatever. Another MCN photoshop special! :yawn:

Swoop

9th August 2008, 12:28

Linky..... (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79348)

OOk

10th August 2008, 18:49

1. It's 100% photochop'd. I work with photochop for a living, I see the indicators. IT IS NOT A REAL BIKE PHOTO.

2. Have you guys even thought of the logistics for building a V5 motor for the street. Or even the logic. Why? I mean, really, WHY would Honda do that. Name one reason. A V5 motor will be costly, not only to tool but to maintain. Honda doesn't even produce a V5 for the track anymore... so why all of a sudden make a street V5 when there is no connection to racing or ANY other street product. It's a tremendously expensive one off attempt. In the US that bike would easily cost close to what a 1098 would cost. Way outta Honda's standard price range. There's no way the Honda bean counters would allow this fantasy to happen.
Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for the VFR to be resurrected.

Zoolander

10th August 2008, 18:58

RantyDave

10th August 2008, 19:13

There is even a vertical connector pipe for the underseat exhaust complete with heat shield from the current VFR800.
Fark the heat shield. There's a connector for an underseat exhaust, and a stubby exhaust too. So, which is it MCN photoshop dudes?

Dave

imdying

10th August 2008, 19:21

Why why why?Whilst I agree with the spirit of your post, I would like to point you to the NR750 and Rune... it isn't totally unheard of for Honda to build bikes just because they can. I mean, who in there right mind makes a production bike with a titanium coated screen? :lol: Definitely made an impact on the world... the 916 copied all of the Japanese bikes styling cues :yes:

OOk

10th August 2008, 20:54

Whilst I agree with the spirit of your post, I would like to point you to the NR750 and Rune... it isn't totally unheard of for Honda to build bikes just because they can. I mean, who in there right mind makes a production bike with a titanium coated screen? :lol: Definitely made an impact on the world... the 916 copied all of the Japanese bikes styling cues :yes:

And I'd also like to point out that one of those bikes was a sales failure and the other was the equivalent of the desmosedici. Oh, and both are discontinued.
First the Rune, it failed and is not available anymore, the end.
Second the NR750 was flat out a race rep bike which has nothing to do with a modern VFR. An NR750 is to 1990's as the desmosedici is to 2000's. IMO, not a very viable argument because the modern VFR, especially a V5 VFR, has nothing to do with racing.

And at least the Rune was based on Honda's existing flat six, which is used in another model. But a V5? We're talking about a 100% new engine that shares nothing with any other street model OR racebike. That means $$$$$$$ for Honda R&D with a very narrow margin of return.

OOk

10th August 2008, 21:01

Definitely made an impact on the world... the 916 copied all of the Japanese bikes styling cues :yes:

Oh I definitely agree with this part. Very few people know or realize that the designer of the 916 openly admits to being influenced by the NR750. So every time someone claims a Jap bike is imitating a modern ducati I just chuckle. :D

OOk

10th August 2008, 21:02

Most Kiwis are waaaay Gullible. Mind you, so are most of the Yanks I've met as well!

Touche my friend. :D

James Deuce

10th August 2008, 21:45

And at least the Rune was based on Honda's existing flat six, which is used in another model. But a V5? We're talking about a 100% new engine that shares nothing with any other street model OR racebike. That means $$$$$$$ for Honda R&D with a very narrow margin of return.

They sold the Rune at a loss, as well as the RC30, the RC45, and the full on CR250 and 500 Mxers. Honda pwn motoring in Japan, on 4 wheels and 2, and pull stuff like this to remind the other motorcycle manufacturers just who is Queen. In comparison, Suzuki are backyard shed assemblers, Yamaha Hobbyists, and Kawasaki's motorcycling efforts are viewed as the efforts of a crazed and deranged favoured Son of KHI- not particularly serious or threatening. To be frank, I hate parking my Kawasaki next to a Honda, not because of any of the normal NZ preoccupations with the suppossed questionable sexuality of Hondas and their riders, but because a bike of the same vintage will look less used.

RantyDave

10th August 2008, 22:16

First the Rune, it failed and is not available anymore, the end.
It might not've sold very well, but I'm not sure that makes it a failure. Ever seen one? Seen seen one? It has a certain ... air to it.

Dave

RobRod

10th August 2008, 23:28

It might not've sold very well, but I'm not sure that makes it a failure. Ever seen one? Seen seen one? It has a certain ... air to it.

Dave

Yes it sure does, the air of an American motorcycle, tasteless styling. to much useless bling, underperforming, can only go in a straight line - no corners please & overpriced.

However the NR was a piece of art in both visual & technical, it still out does the ducati, it sure as hell ain't got oval pistons, 8 valves a cylinder. Also the NR was a very small production run unlike the rather large amount of exclusive ducatis being built, there's even one in CHCH.

imdying

11th August 2008, 08:22

However the NR was a piece of art in both visual & technical, it still out does the ducati, it sure as hell ain't got oval pistons, 8 valves a cylinder. Also the NR was a very small production run unlike the rather large amount of exclusive ducatis being built, there's even one in CHCH.Yes... it's interesting how a single Honda makes all the Dukes and MVs put together 'commoners' bikes. Fancy having to buy a fags bike to be truly exclusive :laugh:

vifferman

11th August 2008, 08:23

Well, I've said before that the indications are that the VFR will be phased out.
I hope I'm worngA though...
And I agree about the V5 - although the V4 offers some advantages, like a narrow width for a 4-cylinder bike, there are also disadvantages, like having pannier radiators and a swingarm that pivots in the cases, to keep the wheelbase short. And servicing difficulties.
The V5 would make that side of things even worse.
But (however!) with the way Honda's gone all eco-mental, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a mutli-cylinder sports-tourer of some sort with a silly engine that drops a cylinder or two while cruising, a la the V6 Honda Accord. That would suck even more than the VFR Vtec engine.

imdying

11th August 2008, 08:24

First the Rune, it failed and is not available anymore, the end.I think as of 2 months ago, they were available in NZ still, they had a price drop when the arse fell out of the dollar, down to $35k.

Qkchk

11th August 2008, 10:48

Very few people know or realize that the designer of the 916 openly admits to being influenced by the NR750. So every time someone claims a Jap bike is imitating a modern ducati I just chuckle. :D

..........However the NR was a piece of art in both visual & technical, it still out does the ducati, it sure as hell ain't got oval pistons, 8 valves a cylinder. Also the NR was a very small production run unlike the rather large amount of exclusive ducatis being built, there's even one in CHCH.

:psst: Ive heard whispers that someone will have a true blue NR750 in their shop in the next month............ cant wait to have a perve.... :drool:

RobRod

11th August 2008, 18:17

Thats cool - would be a nice collectable. Also there is a new Rune for sale at Honda Otago

Swoop

11th August 2008, 21:15

I am still wondering why Honda would call the bike a 1000F?
They have done "F" before.

:scratch:

justsomeguy

11th August 2008, 21:27

I am still wondering why Honda would call the bike a 1000F?
They have done "F" before.

:scratch:

"F" stands for fag??:lol:

P.S: Real men don't ride bikes, they take teh train.......:weep:

Swoop

11th August 2008, 21:34

"F" stands for fag??:lol:

P.S: Real men don't ride bikes, they take teh train.......:weep:

Careful, you are showing a suzuki mentality.
In Auckland we would be privileged to take a train. Alas, our leaders have not planned ahead and built tracks all over (under) the city. One day perhaps!

Mystic13

12th August 2008, 11:38

The V5 has also popped up on thebikergene with a little more info about why they think it's happening.

http://www.thebikergene.com/sportsbikes/patents-point-towards-2009-vfr1000-with-v5-engine/

vifferman

12th August 2008, 11:44

I am still wondering why Honda would call the bike a 1000F?
They have done "F" before.

:scratch:
It looks like the "F" is the sprot version, and t'other (the one with the "GT" monicker, and what looks like a FJR1300? windscreen) is the touring version.

vifferman

12th August 2008, 11:55

The V5 has also popped up on thebikergene with a little more info about why they think it's happening.

http://www.thebikergene.com/sportsbikes/patents-point-towards-2009-vfr1000-with-v5-engine/
There's some bollix in there as well - like this bit:
"It’ll be interesting to see what a V5 Honda feels like in terms of power delivery - there’s been nothing on the road in recent years using this engine format."
Say what?
There's never been a V5 on the road, apart from in VW cars.
And this bit:
"Narrower than an inline four but longer, Honda’s V5s tend to operate in a kind of big-bang firing configuration that blends the horsepower of a high-revving multicyclinder engine with the v-twin’s ability to let the tyre grip the road better in between power pulses, aiding traction."
Hello?
The "big bang" thing is for racing - it's unlikely they'd adopt it for the road bikes, but use a staggered firing formation for smoothness instead. This is what they did for the VFR750 and VFR800. The 800 is supposedly derived from the RC45, but whereas the RC45 has each pair of pistons (they share crankpins) firing together, with a 360-degree firing order, to emulate a big twin, the RC46 doesn't: one piston is on exhaust, the other on compression. Although you can turn an RC36 (the 1990 to 1996 models) into a big bang engine very easily. Because the cam-drive gear is in the middle of the camshafts, you can remove the cam, flip it end-for-end, and voila! (A small, misspelled musical instrument.) Nothing else needs to be done, as the ignition sparks on every up stroke. A guy on one of the VFR forums in Mrka did it - turned his bike into a "twin twingle". He said it made the engine sound different, but it didn't affect performance much.

Swoop

12th August 2008, 12:04

"with the v-twin’s ability to let the tyre grip the road better in between power pulses, aiding traction."
So... when "pulsing" the grip is bad?
Please Mr Honda. Can I have a bike that keeps traction with the road all the time?

vifferman

12th August 2008, 12:11

So... when "pulsing" the grip is bad?
Please Mr Honda. Can I have a bike that keeps traction with the road all the time?
In MotoGp and superbike racing, where the bikes are largely tuned for peak power, when it hits it has a tendency to spin the tyre up. With a "big bang" engine, the power's not too much different to a "screamer" engine, but there's a gap between pulses, which tends to not spin the rear tyre up as much. (Hard to imagine, when they're doing 18k rpm, but that's the theory..)
It's one of the reasons Ducati was cleaning up in WSB, until the RC465 was converted to "big bang" mode. Then when Ducati was allowed a capacity increase, Honda had to go to a v-twin as well to catch up.
The MotoGP bikes are all set up as "big bang" engines, even the IL4s, apart from Kawasaki, who are playing with "screamers" to get more power. With being allowed sophisticated traction-control, the pulsed power delivery's not such a big deal.

avgas

12th August 2008, 12:41

Have you guys even thought of the logistics for building a V5 motor for the street.
Impossible, black magic.
I mean its not like there are Audis out there with it......
Get back to your DNP3

lostinflyz

12th August 2008, 16:02

The V5 has also popped up on thebikergene with a little more info about why they think it's happening.

http://www.thebikergene.com/sportsbikes/patents-point-towards-2009-vfr1000-with-v5-engine/

that makes a bit more sense. sounds like people are making a big leap from patents that honda has got and a few basic assumptions.

pretty much they've combined the ideas embodied by the older vfr models and added all honda's crazy patents. And assumed honda must make a new VFR replacement someday. I think the photos however are a bit of a stretch. will have to wait and see really. Good idea on the frame however.

yod

12th August 2008, 16:05

they do say the pics are their concept, not actual photos of the real beast

NZsarge

12th August 2008, 16:29

Honda have "announced" a new V5 VFR apparently.... Me first !!!

See MCN here (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/august/4-10/aug0708-alpinestars-casual-shoes/) .... Yes yes - Its MCN but it looks real.

Another link HERE (http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-news/-honda-launches-vfr-v5-ar62154.html)

Looks good...

Damn if that's not a shit load better looking than the new Fireblade. :niceone:
That could usher in a new era in sports tourers blah blah.... I like it.

Scruffygit

13th August 2008, 19:57

Not according to Honda

http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/honda_uk_we_have_no_plans_to_build_a_v5_road_bike/5272.html&source=weeklyemail&attr=news

Someone is telling porkies, who could it be? Honda or MCN?

Tough call that one:rolleyes:

gav

13th August 2008, 20:17

While there is a new VFR1000 due there is no guarantee that it would be a V5, I think the patents showed both a V4 and V5 platform, no doubt they have built both prototypes and trialled them, my guess is we will see a V4.

gav

13th August 2008, 20:24

It's one of the reasons Ducati was cleaning up in WSB, until the RC465 was converted to "big bang" mode. Then when Ducati was allowed a capacity increase, Honda had to go to a v-twin as well to catch up.

Huh? Capacity increase? When? This had nothing to do with Honda building a vee twin. The rules for any manufacturer since WSBK first started back in the 80's was 750 4 cylinders, and 1000cc twins. Then multis were allowed to 1000cc with restrictor plates.
Its only this season that the limit has been increased to 1200cc for twins.
The RC45 always ran a 360 degree crank.

OOk

16th August 2008, 20:44

They sold the Rune at a loss, as well as the RC30, the RC45, and the full on CR250 and 500 Mxers. Honda pwn motoring in Japan, on 4 wheels and 2, and pull stuff like this to remind the other motorcycle manufacturers just who is Queen. In comparison, Suzuki are backyard shed assemblers, Yamaha Hobbyists, and Kawasaki's motorcycling efforts are viewed as the efforts of a crazed and deranged favoured Son of KHI- not particularly serious or threatening. To be frank, I hate parking my Kawasaki next to a Honda, not because of any of the normal NZ preoccupations with the suppossed questionable sexuality of Hondas and their riders, but because a bike of the same vintage will look less used.

It might not've sold very well, but I'm not sure that makes it a failure. Ever seen one? Seen seen one? It has a certain ... air to it.

Dave

Yes, I've seen ONE (on the street) and that's not how you run a business. I love Honda's (I have an '07 600RR) but I don't believe Honda gained ANYTHING by building the Rune. It was a huge sales failure and a huge marketing failure. At least bikes like the RC30 and 45 respectively have a racing heritage and they also built those bikes because THEY HAD TO. It's called homologation. They are forced to build so many street bikes so the race bikes can be allowed to race (hence worth taking a loss on). What relivance does a 1000cc V5 have to racing? Nothing. If anything the fact the current VFR's engine spec is more relevent to racing is hugely ironic! 800cc's (check). V4 (check). Do those specs remind anyone of anything??? lol. :D

OOk

16th August 2008, 20:47

my guess is we will see a V4.

I agree 100%. Can't wait to see it.

Swoop

16th August 2008, 20:55

my guess is we will see a V4.
If so, they will have to have done a bit of work to get the extra cc's shoehorned into the engine...:bash: <--- Honda engineer working on doing just that.

OOk

16th August 2008, 21:13

If so, they will have to have done a bit of work to get the extra cc's shoehorned into the engine...:bash: <--- Honda engineer working on doing just that.

C'mon. They did oval pistons, how hard can 200 more cc's be? :D :D :D

huck farley

23rd September 2008, 12:02

MCN has a distribution of 1.3 million mags a week globally. I personally doubt that they wouldn't fuck around with Photoshop pictures and sacrifice that sort of revenue..... I for one can't wait to have a look at it!!

Fatjim

23rd September 2008, 12:48

vifferman

23rd September 2008, 13:00

I don't believe Honda gained ANYTHING by building the Rune. It was a huge sales failure and a huge marketing failure.
It was built almost exclusively for the Mrkn market, based on one of several concept bikes, one of swhich (the Rune prototype) got lots of positive feedback. Maybe in the execution of converting the prototype to a street model, something got lost in translation, or the price was too high.

But back to the fabled new VFR...
While I was in Italia, I saw an Italian bike magazine at a truckstop, with the cover and lead article being about the new VFR. Let's hope it was a joke, as it was fucking hideous, and bore absolutely no resemblance to any of the VFRs to date. It looked like the mutant offspring of the DN-01, a nekkid BMW, and a goat. I wish I could claw my eyes out and somehow erase the memory from my head. I am consoled by its obvious lack of VFR DNA: this points to it being either a hoax or a type-setting error.
The one useful 'fact' I did pick up when horrifiedly perusing the article was that it was a V4. If that means anything, given the erroneous nature of the article as a whole...

huck farley

19th October 2008, 13:46

It turns out that there will be no VFR 1000 after all, the whole fukn thing was a scammed Photo Shop mock up. I don't know about you guys, but I personally get fucked of when this happens. As far as MCN goes I will never ever believe anything they print again.
Fukem
Huckleberry Harley

hazard02

20th October 2008, 08:45

...my guess is we will see a V4.

http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/honda_unveil_new_vfr_v4_concept_bike/5667.html

Looks like it.

From the article:

'With 2008 marking Honda's 60th anniversary as a company and 2009 celebrating the 50th anniversary of Honda's participation in road racing, as well as the 30th anniversary of racing with an innovative 4-cylinder V-engine with oval pistons, Honda is today proud to unveil a World Premier V4 concept model, which signifies the beginning of a new era and design direction for the marque's motorcycles based on Honda's trademark 4-cylinder V-engine. '