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The Pastor
11th August 2008, 09:46
Anyone got one? Im thinking of getting one just want to ask a few questions.
Why did you chose the 750 over the 1000
Why the 2008 model
What if any modifications have you made to it and why.
But the real question i want to know is
they said they stiffened up the front forks, does this make wheelies easier?
SixPackBack
11th August 2008, 10:23
I owned a 2005 Z750-great bike. And yeah they are a bit soft and buzzy for hard riding. I test rode both the 1000 and 750, the thou IMHO was not going to be any faster on the road for the most part, the resulting savings would buy an awful lot of extras for suspension and brakes-the motor had enough torque and top end.
Fucken great bike, the only draw back was a lack of wind protection [same as any naked!] and an uncomfortable seat that forces your balls forward into the tank [both easy/cheap fixes]. It would wheelie easily and was a hoot through traffic.
The Pastor
11th August 2008, 13:02
so you think if i were to get one, some money spent on the suspension, seat and brakes would be the go?
I really hope the 2008 version has adressed the suspension - they said they would
anyone know what the rumors are for the 2009 version?
lager zombie
11th August 2008, 13:12
ditto on the 2005 model.
if they have improved it then worth a look.
see you cunts later.
SixPackBack
11th August 2008, 13:21
so you think if i were to get one, some money spent on the suspension, seat and brakes would be the go?
I really hope the 2008 version has adressed the suspension - they said they would
anyone know what the rumors are for the 2009 version?
Take one for a ride and see for yourself, I believe the seat is a lot better but the suspension is still a little soft, but who knows you might love it!
09 features are little unchanged except for the paint which is two tone.
James Deuce
11th August 2008, 13:42
The 2008's suspension is worse than the previous model's. It's harsh and soft at the same time. It is heavier than the previous model and is 4hp down. The power to weight ratio makes for noticeably slower acceleration. The brakes are wooden and have no power or bite (thought that may have just been the one I rode). The finish is better than earlier models and the dash is better too.
My modified Z750S is a much better bike than the 2008 Z750 in every way.
You'd be better off with a Bandit 650 or GSX650F.
Or even an ER6.
SixPackBack
11th August 2008, 17:11
ER6, Street triple, 695 Monster............If your pocket stretches the new cb1000r looks the trick [for a Honda!]....some of the Buells are damn cool...
No shortage of choice bro'....If you are ready to buy come up with a short list, read all the reports and take them for a test ride [no ride-no buy].
avgas
11th August 2008, 17:23
i loved the z1000.......but the fazer was cheaper.
z750 was fun, but i wanted a bike that i could cruise doing 2,500 - 750 wasn't so stable down there.
avgas
11th August 2008, 17:24
Or even an ER6.
Would be my pick - more i hear about these bikes the nicer they sound. PM Carver.
The Pastor
11th August 2008, 17:41
The 2008's suspension is worse than the previous model's. It's harsh and soft at the same time. It is heavier than the previous model and is 4hp down. The power to weight ratio makes for noticeably slower acceleration. The brakes are wooden and have no power or bite (thought that may have just been the one I rode). The finish is better than earlier models and the dash is better too.
My modified Z750S is a much better bike than the 2008 Z750 in every way.
You'd be better off with a Bandit 650 or GSX650F.
Or even an ER6.
Just quickly, what modifications have you done to your z750 and why:niceone:
James Deuce
11th August 2008, 17:53
Just quickly, what modifications have you done to your z750 and why:niceone:
Fork springs - stock ones dive precipitously, swapped with .95 kg Traxxion Dynamics ones.
Braided brake lines, one to each caliper - more power. Stock lines are squishy and more wooden than the braided ones.
EBC scintered pads - stock ones don't work in the wet.
DNA Air Filter - better mid range breathing.
Ohlins rear shock - the stock one is terrible at anything over nana speed
Metal Gear front discs. - stock one warped at 10,000km.
WFO bar end mirrors - stock ones are useless. You can't see anything in them. Well you can, but I'm sick of dividing by 17 to guess how many cops are following me.
Those are the majors.
zeocen
11th August 2008, 18:33
Another vote for the ER6 (......F?:D), quick, nimble and killer in the corners. Some new bars, mirror extensions, givi setup, screen and EBC HH Sintered brakes has pretty much made my bike how I would ride it forever (bar hard seat). Only thing else I would do would be fork emulators.
I have a Z1000 in my sights later in the future.. have heard only good things about them, but like James Deuce, have heard only bad things about the later model Z750's
The Pastor
11th August 2008, 18:51
Fork springs - stock ones dive precipitously, swapped with .95 kg Traxxion Dynamics ones.
Braided brake lines, one to each caliper - more power. Stock lines are squishy and more wooden than the braided ones.
EBC scintered pads - stock ones don't work in the wet.
DNA Air Filter - better mid range breathing.
Ohlins rear shock - the stock one is terrible at anything over nana speed
Metal Gear front discs. - stock one warped at 10,000km.
WFO bar end mirrors - stock ones are useless. You can't see anything in them. Well you can, but I'm sick of dividing by 17 to guess how many cops are following me.
Those are the majors.
Would you of bought the z1000 knowing what you know now?
Another vote for the ER6 (......F?:D), quick, nimble and killer in the corners. Some new bars, mirror extensions, givi setup, screen and EBC HH Sintered brakes has pretty much made my bike how I would ride it forever (bar hard seat). Only thing else I would do would be fork emulators.
I have a Z1000 in my sights later in the future.. have heard only good things about them, but like James Deuce, have heard only bad things about the later model Z750's
Was it you that turned up to justins place that day i was dropping off a wheel n forks i borrowd? i was in that shit brown cage
How fast/slow is the er6n? I do like the look of them, and it is a kawasaki, so im definatly going to test ride them!
orangeback
11th August 2008, 18:59
ive got an 07
bought it cos it was cheap , and didnt want to loose my licence like i was going to on my zx10r or my life , I've had a large range of bike, bus, gsxr's zx 's etc and quite like it as its ezy ro ride, i can wheelie it of the throttle, the sup is not to flash but hadn't played with it yet, fitted a pipe and tail tidy to it, It's good to ride around town and tuff work in the 180- 200km stuff due to no fairing, there's no diffrence to the 08-07 other than frame colour and colour selection. and they arnt that common so you don't see them everywhere you go.
zeocen
11th August 2008, 19:41
Was it you that turned up to justins place that day i was dropping off a wheel n forks i borrowd? i was in that shit brown cage
How fast/slow is the er6n? I do like the look of them, and it is a kawasaki, so im definatly going to test ride them!
Yeah mate that was me :)
I went from a CBR1100XX to an ER6F and I could feel the speed drop (who wouldn't) but after a few days, I got used to the ptwin torque and found that the ER6's range was amazingly manageable. It tops out at about 230 - 240, would take a lot of road to get from 220 - 240 but before that it gets there suprisingly fast. If I'm trying to do a quick get away from the lights or over taking from a car in the open road I often find myself doing 140 and cruising, it's so easy to bring it to power and it has a mid-high range that still pulls in the lower gears.
Around town is is a DREAM, especially when you score a green turn light at intersections, it just goes on rails around any corner, is amazingly light and can get lighter with a few mods!
Mirrors are a BIG problem, being tall and long armed I couldn't see beyond my elbows once I put my Renthals on so I had to fork out $85 for some OEM extensions, problem solved though. Work a treat.
Brakes aren't the best, I replaced them with EBC brakes and there is much better feel and stopping power.
The bars are love/hate, I was so used to my aggressive sport bikes like the ZZR1100, CBR1100 so I got the streetfighter bars and felt a lot better with them, though I could still love the bike with stock, nothing wrong with them IMO!
Seat is ROCK, FUCKING, HARD. Seriously, it's the worst seat ever. I'm just dealing with it but coming from a rider.co.nz, I seriously felt it!
I'll have to leave with a quote again of a review of the bike earlier in KiwiRider because it rings so true about the bike and how I felt when I bought my CBR1100XX.
"Ego might convince us to buy something faster, but that's a shame because this is a real bike, for real roads, and for real people who want to ride all the time, in a variety of conditions."
---sorry for the long post/thread derail.. I find it hard to stop talking about my bike :sunny:
The Pastor
11th August 2008, 20:04
Yeah mate that was me :)
I went from a CBR1100XX to an ER6F and I could feel the speed drop (who wouldn't) but after a few days, I got used to the ptwin torque and found that the ER6's range was amazingly manageable. It tops out at about 230 - 240, would take a lot of road to get from 220 - 240 but before that it gets there suprisingly fast. If I'm trying to do a quick get away from the lights or over taking from a car in the open road I often find myself doing 140 and cruising, it's so easy to bring it to power and it has a mid-high range that still pulls in the lower gears.
Around town is is a DREAM, especially when you score a green turn light at intersections, it just goes on rails around any corner, is amazingly light and can get lighter with a few mods!
Mirrors are a BIG problem, being tall and long armed I couldn't see beyond my elbows once I put my Renthals on so I had to fork out $85 for some OEM extensions, problem solved though. Work a treat.
Brakes aren't the best, I replaced them with EBC brakes and there is much better feel and stopping power.
The bars are love/hate, I was so used to my aggressive sport bikes like the ZZR1100, CBR1100 so I got the streetfighter bars and felt a lot better with them, though I could still love the bike with stock, nothing wrong with them IMO!
Seat is ROCK, FUCKING, HARD. Seriously, it's the worst seat ever. I'm just dealing with it but coming from a rider.co.nz, I seriously felt it!
I'll have to leave with a quote again of a review of the bike earlier in KiwiRider because it rings so true about the bike and how I felt when I bought my CBR1100XX.
"Ego might convince us to buy something faster, but that's a shame because this is a real bike, for real roads, and for real people who want to ride all the time, in a variety of conditions."
---sorry for the long post/thread derail.. I find it hard to stop talking about my bike :sunny:
Nice post dude.
Can you list all your mods and approx how much $$ it cost.
What are the mods to make it lighter?
N1CK
11th August 2008, 20:24
Another vote for the ER6 (......F?:D), quick, nimble and killer in the corners. Some new bars, mirror extensions, givi setup, screen and EBC HH Sintered brakes has pretty much made my bike how I would ride it forever (bar hard seat). Only thing else I would do would be fork emulators.
When you say you have some EBC HH Sintered brakes. Is this all you are talking about? > Link (http://www.motospecialties.com/store.asp?store=ninja650shop&level=type1&type=Brakes&type1=Brake%20Pads)
James Deuce
11th August 2008, 20:50
Would you of bought the z1000 knowing what you know now?
Nope. The claimed HP figures are within a gnat's whisker though naturally the 1000 has more torque. The changes I've made still come in at less than the difference between the 750 and the 1000, plus I wanted a screen.
zeocen
11th August 2008, 21:02
Just thought I would add before I derail the thread further - When my bike was getting the Givi stuff put on I had an '04 Z750 for a few days as a loan bike, I would have easily gotten one if I were wanting a naked bike at the time, it rode aaaawesomely. :sunny: Same hard seat as the ER6 though hehe :D
When you say you have some EBC HH Sintered brakes. Is this all you are talking about? > Link (http://www.motospecialties.com/store.asp?store=ninja650shop&level=type1&type=Brakes&type1=Brake%20Pads)
Yeah mate, sorry I should have said "brake pads".
Nice post dude.
Can you list all your mods and approx how much $$ it cost.
What are the mods to make it lighter?
I don't have many mods, just changed things here and there to make the ride more comfortable..
Renthal Streetfighter bars - $140
Weighted bar ends - $20?
Progrip gel grips - $20?
Puig double bubble screen - $70 USD
Full Givi set up, panniers and top box - ~$2000'ish (completely overkill but sets me up for summer greatly, all any normal person really needs is a ventura rack and an RJAYS bag really.)
OEM Mirror extenders - $85
I had a Micron exhaust on it but it was far, far too loud, I like to be understated so I'm probably going to Virgin Mufflers to get a custom one with my desired noise level.
Re. weight, the most major thing you can do is replace the stock pipe, there is about 7kg of dead weight on there, it even has a handle for you to use it as a dumbell once you take it off! You can get a fair amount of aftermarket fairings which are lighter, I think the Catalyst ones are the lightest.. they also are well below the top frame so if you want a very race like style position you can fit clip-ons easily, as well as adding 636 front end, etc.. the bike is a hit in the states so it has a billion mods for it. You can also fit faux clipons on that give it a good feel also. I prefer my street fighter bars and stupidly wide barends though, makes it unique and feels great!
I only have a picture of my bike with my Givi stuff on, none of the other mods were on at that time, and I know you don't like my 'girls dairy' type video rides :P But this is what I see from my view, fastforward to 3:20 to the good-ish stuff where i stop talking and put music over, (moss, gravel, wet roads = slow zeo), don't hate on my girly 'video diarys' ! :love:
<div><embed src="http://www.livevideo.com/flvplayer/embed/C8C57A24E6104CAF831865807C3BBD77&autoStart=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" quality="high" WIDTH="445" HEIGHT="369" wmode="transparent"></embed><br/><a href="http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/C8C57A24E6104CAF831865807C3BBD77/729057/dusk-pt-3-oren.aspx">Dusk Pt.3 - Oren</a></div>
The Pastor
11th August 2008, 21:41
What road was it mate?
And you're 100% right about your girls diary! damn man where the hells the exhaust note! music < exhaust.
But yeah very nice vid setup you have, no wind noise but i guess at walking speed you don't have to worry about that!!
Very tempted with the er6f, imo looks better than the z750 and the lower hp should help me slow down (tui ad if i ever saw one lol)
zeocen
11th August 2008, 21:58
Monument Road leading up to Hunua, first time since Summer doing those roads.. I prefer to have only one broken colarbone in my lifetime, so I stop to enjoy the roads every now and then! :P
Re. exhaust, I've never really heard my exhaust, all I hear is the engine. It's quiet and heavy, you can't even hear the bike if it passes you, it's just a wind shivvering sound, when I can stretch my budget a bit I'm taking it to Virgin Mufflers to get a custom one made up, with a nice tone but still fairly quiet.
The way this bike eat corners and spits out torque, you'll be losing your license just as easily as the z750. You seem like a 'loud and proud' biker, if I'm correct and you buy the ER6, then Mt Eden have a mighty nice, earth destroying Micron can in their hands with your name on it. :)
The Pastor
11th August 2008, 23:23
Monument Road leading up to Hunua, first time since Summer doing those roads.. I prefer to have only one broken colarbone in my lifetime, so I stop to enjoy the roads every now and then! :P
Re. exhaust, I've never really heard my exhaust, all I hear is the engine. It's quiet and heavy, you can't even hear the bike if it passes you, it's just a wind shivvering sound, when I can stretch my budget a bit I'm taking it to Virgin Mufflers to get a custom one made up, with a nice tone but still fairly quiet.
The way this bike eat corners and spits out torque, you'll be losing your license just as easily as the z750. You seem like a 'loud and proud' biker, if I'm correct and you buy the ER6, then Mt Eden have a mighty nice, earth destroying Micron can in their hands with your name on it. :)
I don't think i'd ever buy a bike from mt eden motorcycles.
"loud n proud"? Not really I just want to go fast :D (hence why i should get the bike with the lest hp :D )
N1CK
12th August 2008, 19:37
I only have a picture of my bike with my Givi stuff on, none of the other mods were on at that time, and I know you don't like my 'girls dairy' type video rides :P But this is what I see from my view, fastforward to 3:20 to the good-ish stuff where i stop talking and put music over, (moss, gravel, wet roads = slow zeo), don't hate on my girly 'video diarys' ! :love:
sorry to take the thread of topic again, but what video camera are you using in that vid?
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