Almost got killed today..

[Ehgreiz]

So i was riding around town going up Vincent street towards Pitt street, and i was driving up on my little putput uz 125 scooter at about 55 when this white care pulls off the curb and pulls up RIGHT NEXT to me, forcing me over the center line into oncoming traffic..

I think he finally noticed cos i was tooting my horn like a lunatic so he slowed down as i sped up and i managed to get back onto the left side of the road just a moment before i would have been slammed headon into the car moving towards me..

I look back at him... and i see a asian dude sitting at the wheel.. now im not racist at all and dont normally agree with the whole asian driver bullsh*t but this guy was a f*cking retard... and you know what he does after almost freaken KILLING me?

he toots his horn... at me... the dude on the little scooter he almost killed.....


QARGIYEUFGSBLSKA

/end rant

suffice it to say i feel lucky to be alive right about now..

[DarkLord]

Far out. Some people deserve a damn good ass kicking. I know what you mean, I'm not racist but I was nearly collected by an asian woman in an SUV who pulled out right in front of me.

Glad you are ok though man.

[Katman]

Best you learn to live with it.

[boomer]

and i see a asian dude sitting at the wheel.. now im not racist at all and dont normally agree with the whole asian driver bullsh*t but this guy was a f*cking retard...

"i dont.. " and "But" are funny when used together. YOU RACIST NIGGER !


next time kick his fookin door in and stop being a poof.

[Slyer]

I bet he thought you were just trying to pass him on the wrong side of the road..

The urge to rage at him must have been very strong.
Stereotypes are usually true, by the way.

[boomer]

I know what you mean,


I'm not racist



but


by an asian woman




ahha i bet your best mate is ASIAN too...!!

[mattian]

Happy to hear you came out unscathed :woohoo: I tell ya what ! You have to be extra vigilant while riding in the inner city. I am always on the lookout for people who don't see me on the road and even more so when on the city streets. People always pushing and shoving their way through. Have you thought about getting a slightly bigger bike, like a 250? for starters, it would probably make your more visible and, you can occupy your lane with alot more authority. being on a little 125 scooter just makes it to easy for cages to bully you around.

[Ehgreiz]

Happy to hear you came out unscathed :woohoo: I tell ya what ! You have to be extra vigilant while riding in the inner city. I am always on the lookout for people who don't see me on the road and even more so when on the city streets. People always pushing and shoving their way through. Have you thought about getting a slightly bigger bike, like a 250? for starters, it would probably make your more visible and, you can occupy your lane with alot more authority. being on a little 125 scooter just makes it to easy for cages to bully you around.

yeah im actually getting a suzuki vl250 next thursday... with my scooter as a tradein - would have been almost as pissed if i had died as i would have been if i totalled my scooter.. although a writeoff isnt a bad thing in some ways >.>

getting a 250 insured though is hard enough when you are 22 still on your learners let alone having a previous claim lol

but yeah i am normally really extra alert in town also, but he literally came out of nowhere >.<

[Big Dave]

I was on the Service Station forecourt waiting to use the Air when a woman in a merc started backing straight for me.

If I hadn't taken urgent evasive action she would have hit me.

Like yours these are every day occurrences for riders.

Eternal vigilance must never slip.

[Oakie]

Best you learn to live with it.

Sadly true. It seems to be a regular event for me lately. The commute to work is a single lane road that splits into two lanes as it gets to a roundabout or intersection then merges back to one lane about 150 metres past the roundabout (or intersection). There are 4 such places. I travel in the right lane and so often now I pull up behind the vehicle in front (closer then recommended usually) having negotiated the roundabout (or intersection) and then prepare to settle in for the next section when all of a sudden someone pulls up on my left and just sits there leaving me with a decision to make. Depending on my mood I'll either just stick there until he chickens out and drops back (60%), chicken out myself like today with the rough little white Barina (35%) or occasionaly just blast on past the next car into a bigger space (and that would be 5% of the time).

[Ehgreiz]

I was on the Service Station forecourt waiting to use the Air when a woman in a merc starting backing straight for me.

If I hadn't taken urgent evasive action she would have hit me.

Like yours these are every day occurrences for riders.

Eternal vigilance must never slip.

indeed. Oh for the day when people are concerned about stuff that happens outside their 4 doors and windows...


yeah right...

that would make a good tui add

That car just slowed down for that bike to avoid killing him... Yeah right.

[Ehgreiz]

Best you learn to live with it.

dont get me wrong this isnt the first time ive had a near miss... its just this one got me particularly riled up and i had to vent ><

[BBzz]

Speed Doesn’t Kill Bikers

"Cars Do"

[NC]

Loud bikes save lives...

Next time smash their side mirror off, then they'll know your there.


And as for posting a gay thread about bad Auckland drivers, what rock did you crawl out from after all these years?

[ElCoyote]

Best you learn to live with it.


Why? why? why?

[<Rhino>]

Two words..... ICE CARD... just in case :scooter:

[Katman]

Speed Doesn’t Kill Bikers

"Cars Do"

Classic motorcycling myopia.

Bikers kill more bikers than cars do.

[piston broke]

hey,they're ALL out there tryin to run you down!
except other bikers, or someone close to one, who has been TOLD.
fark a lotta them don't even look for trucks

[Ehgreiz]

And as for posting a gay thread about bad Auckland drivers, what rock did you crawl out from after all these years?

nice reaction, i suppose you laugh when people get killed huh?

oh wait.. had i died and someone posted a thread about that you would have posted an insincere 'RIP' right?

get off your highhorse mate.

[mattian]

Excellent wee bike the VL 250. I used to have one...... (I actually wish I hadn't sold it now).
Always ride like no one has seen you. Its one of the best pieces of advice I have ever heard and it has saved my bacon on so many occasions that I have lost count. If I see a car on the side of the road with a driver sitting in it, I always assume that he is going to pull out in front of me without looking..... ALWAYS !!!

[Slyer]

Better than dying with it.

[Ehgreiz]

yeah im not gonna make that mistake again believe me, i will be paying a lot more attention from now on, tho mind you i always have paid a lot.

[piston broke]

Two words..... ICE CARD... just in case :scooter:
of us carry cell phones don't we.
i have ice # in mine

[<Rhino>]

of us carry cell phones don't we.
i have ice # in mine

All good until you fall off and its gets smashed, wet, flat battery, PIN locked, Lost and no one really checks phones anyway. However you can gaurantee somone will look in your wallet.....hello thers an ICE Card :niceone:

[Ehgreiz]

All good until you fall off and its gets smashed, wet, flat battery, PIN locked, Lost and no one really checks phones anyway. However you can gaurantee somone will look in your wallet.....hello thers an ICE Card :niceone:

quit hijacking my ranting thread!

lol >.>

[NC]

nice reaction, i suppose you laugh when people get killed huh?

oh wait.. had i died and someone posted a thread about that you would have posted an insincere 'RIP' right?

get off your highhorse mate.

No wonder your posting a big wah burger and Mc Cries thread about your shitty close call, with a fucked up responce like that.

Theres a huge fucken difference between a close call and someone dying.


Get of yah mothers nipple.

[Katman]

Best you learn to live with it.


Why? why? why?

Because the alternative isn't much fun.

[Ehgreiz]

No wonder your posting a big wah burger and Mc Cries thread about your shitty close call, with a fucked up responce like that.

Theres a huge fucken difference between a close call and someone dying.


Get of yah mothers nipple.

right so i no longer pay any attention to anything you ever say again.

have a nice day :)

[piston broke]

oop's sorry ehgries.
good point rhino

[Ehgreiz]

oop's sorry ehgries.
good point rhino

lol i was joking bro, 'sall good :)

[Slyer]

right so i no longer pay any attention to anything you ever say again.

have a nice day :)
Ususally you just ignore them immediately and then do it without saying.
Works best. "Don't feed the trolls"

[Ehgreiz]

Ususally you just ignore them immediately and then do it without saying.
Works best. "Don't feed the trolls"

yeah but when you can get them actually saying abusive things and swearing at you you can get them banned and that makes me smile sometimes :)

[madbikeboy]

Ban Cars. (frigging 10 charactor minimum).

[NC]

Ususally you just ignore them immediately and then do it without saying.
Works best. "Don't feed the trolls"

So, Smints did bring out a saposatory product.
No smint, no kiss.

[danchop]

i would rate the uz125 as the best weapon for inner city driving myself your probably lucky its so manouverable that you didnt come off or get hit,i have an icident just about everyday but tend not to get angry or abusive at the cars drivers cause as someone else said youve got to ride as if nobody sees you,
today i was riding up between two long lanes of stationary traffic at a red light and a car suddenly opens its driver door to check something about 5 metres in front so i had to swerve quickly and with not much room to escape,not really the cars fault it just happens, and i dont crawl going through traffic either

[Ehgreiz]

i would rate the uz125 as the best weapon for inner city driving myself your probably lucky its so manouverable that you didnt come off or get hit,i have an icident just about everyday but tend not to get angry or abusive at the cars drivers cause as someone else said youve got to ride as if nobody sees you,
today i was riding up between two long lanes of stationary traffic at a red light and a car suddenly opens its driver door to check something about 5 metres in front so i had to swerve quickly and with not much room to escape,not really the cars fault it just happens, and i dont crawl going through traffic either

very true points, sadly to take advantave of being on two wheels kind of inherantly has these risks i suppose.

[PrincessBandit]

And as for posting a gay thread about bad Auckland drivers, what rock did you crawl out from after all these years?

Er, did I just miss something there? Sounded like a not-too-unreasonable rant to me.

[Ehgreiz]

Er, did I just miss something there? Sounded like a not-too-unreasonable rant to me.

thank you for that,
sadly there are people in every friendly community who feels its necessary to ridicule the people who, you know, express feelings and emotions..

ah well what can ya do, other than add them to ignore list and move on that is lol

[bikerboy011]

I was gonna get killed last week, head on with a taxi van. I was heading home from mates house on st lukes rd heading to mt eden i was on the left lane and a car infront of me indicated to turn left so i decided to go on right lane as soon as i did that i so this van in front of me, slammed front brakes managed to do a stoppie and i slightly touched him though no damage. I was so angry that i was gonna beat the living out of him....

[avgas]

Speed Doesn’t Kill Bikers

"Cars Do"
Why dont you plaster that all over the walls, barriers, fences, houses, sign posts and tarseal that bikers seem to hit pretty well on its own accord.

[Kiwi Graham]

Beware the cloak of invisiblity when ridding a bike, cover you own ass and cover your brake!! :spanking:

[Big Dave]

a big wah burger and Mc Cries

I like that.

[Ehgreiz]

I was gonna get killed last week, head on with a taxi van. I was heading home from mates house on st lukes rd heading to mt eden i was on the left lane and a car infront of me indicated to turn left so i decided to go on right lane as soon as i did that i so this van in front of me, slammed front brakes managed to do a stoppie and i slightly touched him though no damage. I was so angry that i was gonna beat the living out of him....

yeah, generally the way i try to approach anything on the road be it driving/riding or what have you is treat everyone around you like they are deaf dumb and blind idiots..

sadly shit like your van and my bloke pulling up right next to me are things that ya just cant predict ><

glad you got out of that one okay as well mate.. i have actually found taxi's to be notoriously bad, even worse than old ladies in mercedes.. i have a story about one of them too haha

[Gremlin]

yeah but when you can get them actually saying abusive things and swearing at you you can get them banned and that makes me smile sometimes :)
Yes... she's definitely a newbie at KB... much newer than you... ;)

[NC]

I like that.

I heard that you can get a nice cold whineakin with it too

[Ehgreiz]

Yes... she's definitely a newbie at KB... much newer than you... ;)

actually ive only really been around for a month or so if i remember rightly..

and now i realise you were being sarcastic lol

[NC]

Yes... she's definitely a newbie at KB... much newer than you... ;)

I'm a n00b troll:niceone:

[Big Dave]

NC - Noobo Cop.

[MDR2]

I don't mean to criticize the way you handled this situation.. I wasn't there, but I was wondering why you bothered tooting your horn frantically and keeping pace alongside the dipshit in the car.

Why not focus on the matter ( you've just been put on the wrong side of the road) and slow down and tuck back in behind the car. Next set of lights kick a tail light out or have a word with the driver (what ever makes you feel better).

Again, i wasn't there, and im not trying to be anti rant or anything. just pointing out another option :P

[bikerboy011]

yeah, generally the way i try to approach anything on the road be it driving/riding or what have you is treat everyone around you like they are deaf dumb and blind idiots..

sadly shit like your van and my bloke pulling up right next to me are things that ya just cant predict ><

glad you got out of that one okay as well mate.. i have actually found taxi's to be notoriously bad, even worse than old ladies in mercedes.. i have a story about one of them too haha

ya man shit happens ...

[Ehgreiz]

I don't mean to critizise the way you handled this situation.. I wasn't there, but I was wondering why you bothered tooting you horn frantically and keeping pace alongside the dipshit in the car.

Why not focus on the matter ( you've just been put on the wrong side of the road) and slow down and tuck back in behind the car. Next set of lights kick a tail light out or have a word with the driver (what ever makes you feel better).

Again, i wasn't there, and im not trying to be anti rant or anything. just pointing out another option :P

part panic part rage i suppose, i realised this option after the matter myself aswell, both options shouldnt have been needed however, i must have been in one of his blind spots when he pulled out, kinda wish i was in a car cos he would have gotten pounded hah..

but yeah, live and learn hehe

[mattian]

glad you got out of that one okay as well mate.. i have actually found taxi's to be notoriously bad, even worse than old ladies in mercedes.. i have a story about one of them too haha[/QUOTE]


Today, about 11.30 am.......me on my bike coming around a rather gentle blind corner, doing a sedate 50 or so :calm: I came face to face with a courier van stopped in the middle of my lane with his reversing lights on ! He wasnt even at the side of the road he was smack dab in the middle of it :crazy: reversing ! Thankgod I had my wits about me and I wasnt travelling very fast. You always have to be prepared for this kind of "unpredictable" behaviour on the road. Every close call or scare is a learning experience for you to think about, and at the end of the day review what (if anything) you could have done differently. Its really the only way to learn.

[1 Free Man]

yeah im actually getting a suzuki vl250 next thursday... with my scooter as a tradein - would have been almost as pissed if i had died as i would have been if i totalled my scooter.. although a writeoff isnt a bad thing in some ways >.>

getting a 250 insured though is hard enough when you are 22 still on your learners let alone having a previous claim lol

but yeah i am normally really extra alert in town also, but he literally came out of nowhere >.<
I ride a VL 250. A nice ride you will be happy with it but believe me THE BIGGER YOU ARE THE LESS THEY SEE YOU.
You still have to ride as if they are all out to get you.
Had a bitch, today, pulled out from a sevice station not 50 metres in front of me tonight as if I just didn't exist. Just for the record she was white european.
Bad drivers come in all colours and races.

[Ehgreiz]

Today, about 11.30 am.......me on my bike coming around a rather gentle blind corner, doing a sedate 50 or so :calm: I came face to face with a courier van stopped in the middle of my lane with his reversing lights on ! He wasnt even at the side of the road he was smack dab in the middle of it :crazy: reversing ! Thankgod I had my wits about me and I wasnt travelling very fast. You always have to be prepared for this kind of "unpredictable" behaviour on the road. Every close call or scare is a learning experience for you to think about, and at the end of the day review what (if anything) you could have done differently. Its really the only way to learn.

truer words have never been spoken

[Ehgreiz]

I ride a VL 250. A nice ride you will be happy with it but believe me THE BIGGER YOU ARE THE LESS THEY SEE YOU.
You still have to ride as if they are all out to get you.
Had a bitch, today, pulled out from a sevice station not 50 metres in front of me tonight as if I just didn't exist. Just for the record she was white european.
Bad drivers come in all colours and races.

oh believe me i know, i have seen more european idiots than any other race in all honesty hehe

[1 Free Man]

Er, did I just miss something there? Sounded like a not-too-unreasonable rant to me.
I think for NC it's that time of the month Princess. PMT or some such shit.
I thought it was a reasonable thread to. Something we can all relate to and Identify with.

[Big Dave]

part panic part rage i suppose,

Never rage.

Just exit any potential road rage situation - without getting riled yourself - U turn, ride up the gutter or footpath - whatever.

And then smile deeply on the inside because you have won - and won handsomely - regardless of the circumstances.

Put that gem between you and your helmet.

[avgas]

NC - Noobo Cop.
Sounds like some thing off star wars

[Ehgreiz]

also true, though i think the rage came much later than the panic

[Big Dave]

Sounds like some thing off star wars

Not enough ink.

[jrandom]

part panic part rage i suppose, i realised this option after the matter myself aswell...

Car driver didn't see you, you nearly died, and then after the fact you realised that you had an easy out that you just didn't take?

I wouldn't be blaming the car driver.

[Ehgreiz]

Car driver didn't see you, you nearly died, and then after the fact you realised that you had an easy out that you just didn't take?

I wouldn't be blaming the car driver.

riiight.. so it was MY fault that the idiot forced me onto the wrong side of the road - there was no chance of slowing down before this happened..

what i did AFTER this fact, sure, is something i could have done a little better, but it was not my fault that i was in that situation to begin with.

[stify]

but it was not my fault that i was in that situation to begin with.

:corn::corn:

[Irontusk]

Just because there is a momentary gap in oncoming traffic doesn't give a car in a driveway right of way to push you out of the way. Doesn't matter if you can slow down/pull in or speed up/pull in.

[Ehgreiz]

:corn::corn:

love your input, oh by the by, if you really have nothing useful/argumentitive/interesting to say or really dont care about the thread as your little sarcastic popcorn demonstration would suggest, then why even bother wasting your time?

shrug

[jrandom]

fault... idiot... no chance... not my fault

<img src="http://www.wisdomgarb.com/images/product/youregonnadie.jpg"/>

[Ehgreiz]

Just because there is a momentary gap in oncoming traffic doesn't give a car in a driveway right of way to push you out of the way. Doesn't matter if you can slow down/pull in or speed up/pull in.

i like the fact you used the phrase momentary gap - because there was oncoming traffic that had actually already passed me too, i was lucky this happened when there WAS a gap, another bloke on a scooter and a few cars had already passed in the other direction, if this had happened a few seconds earlier i would not be here defending myself about people who think they are right because they have been on the road longer or have a higher post count than i do, i would be dead.

some people find that reason enough to ridicule or debase me.. i fail to comprehend that

[Ehgreiz]

<img src="http://www.wisdomgarb.com/images/product/youregonnadie.jpg"/>

riight, nice editing, left out the part where i admitted i could have done something better..

i dont have a fancy picture but:

your an ass! :yes:

[1 Free Man]

<img src="http://www.wisdomgarb.com/images/product/youregonnadie.jpg"/>

Very constructive. ???? your point being ?????

[stify]

love your input, oh by the by, if you really have nothing useful/argumentitive/interesting to say or really dont care about the thread as your little sarcastic popcorn demonstration would suggest, then why even bother wasting your time?

shrug

sarcarstick is I.....waste time I will when I please.....input you will get when you post........enjoy ya bike....maybe the scooter might be better at dodging cars.....

[Ehgreiz]

i think his point that he was trying to make was that everything that ever goes wrong in auckland city ever is my fault and that i should die because of it..

or maybe i missed something because of the shiney green tshirt

[1 Free Man]

riight, nice editing, left out the part where i admitted i could have done something better..

i dont have a fancy picture but:

your an ass! :yes:
I've crossed swords with this guy I bet he gives you a red rep and then starts with the personal insults.

[jrandom]

Very constructive. ???? your point being ?????

Do I really need to spell this shit out?

You can't expect other road users to look out for you. 'Fault' is only something that matters to the cops and the insurance companies.

Getting all indignant because someone nearly killed you with their one-and-a-half-tonne wrecking ball on wheels is a waste of emotional energy that could be put into riding more defensively.

I sense Ehgreiz failing to take responsibility for his own safety on the road, ergo, he's at a high risk of bad shit happening to him.

[Ehgreiz]

doesnt really bother me, its a relief that the majority of the human race have sympathy or something useful to say, the rest i could care less about, but sadly the lesser of us tend to also be more vocal in their mocking and insulting.. :doh:

[Swoop]

You have two sides of a coin to deal with.

A: Your bike is small and difficult to hear and see (for the cager of "normal” intelligence). Remember that even IF they see you, they probably still haven't seen you.

B: Your bike is small and manoeuvrable. Think ahead of yourself and detect where the threats are before you get anywhere near them. If you have to, you can use that manoeuvrability to avoid the problem.

Cagers are simple 1-braincell creatures. Unless you pose a physical threat to them, your presence will not normally be noted. (Physical threat can be anything from being dressed in black, up to something that might rip their head off and shit down their neck).

Situational awareness is everything.

[jrandom]

I've crossed swords with this guy I bet he gives you a red rep and then starts with the personal insults.

Take a look in the mirror before you get your knickers in a knot, eh?

:doobey:

Edit: By the way, folks, I never give 'red rep' to anyone unless they've just handed me some. It just seems an appropriate comment to make in that situation.

[newby]

Although i can sympathise with the situation, i understand what Jrandom is saying...

I spend 10 hours a day on Auckland urban roads (all be it in a truck, not a bike) but i still have to compensate for a hell of a lot of other F wits which just arent aware of their surroundings. Especially as in a Truck Vs Car accident the truck usually gets the blame as far as piggies are concerned.

Seems to be the same thing on a bike, except even more so as you come out worse off...

[jrandom]

doesnt really bother me, its a relief that the majority of the human race have sympathy or something useful to say, the rest i could care less about, but sadly the lesser of us tend to also be more vocal in their mocking and insulting.. :doh:

All right, here y'go. Would you like a hug?

:hug:

You poor, poor sossidge. You got all scared! It's horrible when that happens, isn't it?

Swoop put the necessary advice nicely and sensitively, just now. Far more appropriately for your delicate sensibilities than my rather blunt assessment of risk should your attitude remain unchanged.

Go read his post.

[1 Free Man]

some people find that reason enough to ridicule or debase me.. i fail to comprehend that
welcome to KB. being a new poster, as I am to, you become a target of the long term poster that have been here for ever and consider it their right to give you as much shit as they can because they are never wrong and they always like to have the last word.
I thought it was KIWIBIKERS but sometimes it's KINDY BULLIES.
They generally have bigger dicks than we do and they like to insult your ride as well. That helps with the dick size I think.

[Ehgreiz]

Do I really need to spell this shit out?

You can't expect other road users to look out for you. 'Fault' is only something that matters to the cops and the insurance companies.

Getting all indignant because someone nearly killed you with their one-and-a-half-tonne wrecking ball on wheels is a waste of emotional energy that could be put into riding more defensively.

I sense Ehgreiz failing to take responsibility for his own safety on the road, ergo, he's at a high risk of bad shit happening to him.

right, okay.

scenario for ya Jrandom.

you are driving along, watching out ahead of you, taking note of cars on the side of the road, cars infront of you, cars coming towards you, when all of a sudden some guy comes screaming out of a blind side-road in your blind spot at high speed giving you all of .01 seconds to react to the screeching sound of tires and revving engine coming toward you.

now, weither or not you react correctly to this situation, is it your fault?

because according to what you are saying it is.

i appreciate where you are coming from, and all in all i have learnt from this situation, but FAULT is one thing, reacting correctly to a situation is another thing entirely..

i take responsibility for my actions and my safety when im on the road, as much as a fly takes responsibility of making a nice mess on your windscreen. there are some things that are just out of your control.

now while i do appreciate what you are saying, how you are saying it makes you look like a dick.

:Playnice::Playnice:

[Irontusk]

i think his point that he was trying to make was that everything that ever goes wrong in auckland city ever is my fault and that i should die because of it..

or maybe i missed something because of the shiney green tshirt

Oh so it's you we should all be blaming then.. good to know :rolleyes: So you can explain why I don't have my bike yet then? (Yes I'm still thinking about it)

Still though, just because you did manage to get out of the way, and there was a slightly faster way out of it, doesn't mean you're at fault.. and as for 'posting a gay thread'.. this is educational for new riders, is it not?

[Ehgreiz]

Oh so it's you we should all be blaming then.. good to know :rolleyes: So you can explain why I don't have my bike yet then? (Yes I'm still thinking about it)

Still though, just because you did manage to get out of the way, and there was a slightly faster way out of it, doesn't mean you're at fault.. and as for 'posting a gay thread'.. this is educational for new riders, is it not?

while not the reason i originally posted it, i suppose it could be looked at as an educational thing.

i mean my lesson here is that when i get caught in a situation that is both bad and surprising and out of my control, rather than react to it calmly (in this case lightly breaking and pulling in behind his car) i panic panicked and expected the car driver to correct his mistake (which thank god he semi did).

the reaction was my fault, the driver being a blind dumb and stupid bastard was not my fault.

[jrandom]

you are driving along...

I don't drive.

I ride.


blind side-road in your blind spot

If I failed to anticipate something zooming out from a place on the road that I wasn't able to see, then I failed to protect myself.

If the vehicle didn't actually materialise out of thin air, then I should have read the road layout and anticipated it.

If you think that's asking too much, well... like I said. You gonna die.

:)


how you are saying it makes you look like a dick

No, it makes you feel belittled. Slight difference. And no offense meant. What I'm pointing out could save your life.

'1 Free Man' is just in a snot because I pointed out the other week, after he indulged in a self-righteous rant about how people shouldn't speed, that his bike could barely get over the legal open-road speed limit anyway.

It would appear that he sees the wobbly that he threw at me thereafter as 'crossing swords'.

:laugh:

[Mom]

I very nearly killed an innocent passenger in a car piloted by a learner driver yesterday. Closest I have come in a long time.

Driving straight through a T intersection where the cross roads have compulsory stops both sides. I always approach this intersection with caution and care as almost no one actually stops to check if there is something coming. I got almost into the intersection when a car came out to my right without showing any signs of slowing at all. I used all the stopping force my poor old bomb of a car had and heaved the steering wheel left to avoid it. Scared the bejaysus out of me.

I am picking the supervising passenger hauled on the handbrake as the driver had both hands off the wheel covering her face! FAAARRRR OUT!!!

This happened at a known dick heads dont stop intersection, prepared as I am, I still managed to come closer than I ever want to again.

Be aware at all times on a bike, they will get you if you dont!

[Katman]

I've crossed swords with this guy I bet he gives you a red rep and then starts with the personal insults.

I've 'crossed swords' with him too - turns out I can piss higher. :msn-wink:

[PrincessBandit]

You have two sides of a coin to deal with...



Cagers are simple 1-braincell creatures. Unless you pose a physical threat to them, your presence will not normally be noted. (Physical threat can be anything from being dressed in black, up to something that might rip their head off and shit down their neck).

Situational awareness is everything.
I'm a simple 1-braincelled creature!!! OMG!!! How have I managed to survive so long??? [my internet connection is sooooooooooooo slooooooooow at the moment, so i've been unable to add the rolf smilie].
Last sentence is so true - always have to be thinking ahead even in seemingly 'ideal' conditions; and choosing where and when to test your (and your bikes) limits so you can maximise your chances of extracting yourself from a shit situation when it arises.
Btw swoop, you do know that some lovely lasses actually like staples (well piercings anyway) in those "centrefold" spots........wink wink

[Ehgreiz]

fair enough jrandom, and i do see my mistake already without you pointing it out in such an obnoxious way, but thank you nonetheless

its just that generally speaking i prefer advice to be given in a friendly fassion than in a way that makes me feel cruddy.. my fault for being human i guess :Oops:

[justsomeguy]

right, okay.

scenario for ya Jrandom.

you are driving along, watching out ahead of you, taking note of cars on the side of the road, cars infront of you, cars coming towards you, when all of a sudden some guy comes screaming out of a blind side-road in your blind spot at high speed giving you all of .01 seconds to react to the screeching sound of tires and revving engine coming toward you.

now, weither or not you react correctly to this situation, is it your fault?

because according to what you are saying it is.

i appreciate where you are coming from, and all in all i have learnt from this situation, but FAULT is one thing, reacting correctly to a situation is another thing entirely..

i take responsibility for my actions and my safety when im on the road, as much as a fly takes responsibility of making a nice mess on your windscreen. there are some things that are just out of your control.

now while i do appreciate what you are saying, how you are saying it makes you look like a dick.

:Playnice::Playnice:

Doesn't matter who's fault it is - you die - you're dead. End of story.

More motorcycle accidents are caused by other road users errors. Infact people pulling in front of bikes causes the majority of such accidents.

A lot of bikers kill themselves too by being dumb idiots, but these guys were gonna kill themselves anyway... hang around bikes for a while and you will know what I mean and who I refer to.

Leave JRandom alone, he already has a boyfriend. Eh Boomboomboy?:sweatdrop

But if you're feeling lonely I know 1 Free Man for you.....;)

[jrandom]

... turns out I can piss higher.

I think you might be confusing me with someone else; I don't recall being involved in a pissing contest.

Unless, of course, you stuck around that day at the track to watch me take a leak?

...

Oh my. (You should have told me you were into that already.)

:love:

[jrandom]

Leave JRandom alone, he already has a boyfriend. Eh Boomboomboy?:sweatdrop

Shhhh, you'll make kiwifruit and Katman jealous.

[Slyer]

One time I was going around a corner coming up to a pedestrian crossing in the cage. Was about to look for pedestirans when suddenly SUNSTRIKE, argh! Took all my effort to stay on the road without thinking about the crossing, got past it and slowed right down. Looked behind me to see two people were waiting at the crossing at the time, too easily could have hit them if they counted on me stopping...
Since then I have always been bloody careful when driving especially around town. And crossing the road for that matter.. I don't count on the judgement of anyone.

[Swoop]

Btw swoop, you do know that some lovely lasses actually like staples (well piercings anyway) in those "centrefold" spots........wink wink
Yes. Quite aware. It is a "Hobby" of mine.
There is a fine line between hobby and perversion, so I'm calling it a hobby ... for now.

[jrandom]

its just that generally speaking i prefer advice to be given in a friendly fassion than in a way that makes me feel cruddy...

Sorry bro. I'm used to all the thick-skinned cunts on this forum needing a kick in the head and a poke in the eye just to get their attention.

[justsomeguy]

Shhhh, you'll make kiwifruit and Katman jealous.

Fuck off!!! Kiwifruits mine.. and Katman is a girl:Pokey:

[Ehgreiz]

One time I was going around a corner coming up to a pedestrian crossing in the cage. Was about to look for pedestirans when suddenly SUNSTRIKE, argh! Took all my effort to stay on the road without thinking about the crossing, got past it and slowed right down. Looked behind me to see two people were waiting at the crossing at the time, too easily could have hit them if they counted on me stopping...
Since then I have always been bloody careful when driving especially around town. And crossing the road for that matter.. I don't count on the judgement of anyone.

yeah, the sad fact of life is the best way TO learn is with near misses. while you may do your best previously you, and obviously know what is right/wrong/stupid/whatever, but having your life on the line really strikes the point into you much for forcefully heh

[PrincessBandit]

I think you might be confusing me with someone else; I don't recall being involved in a pissing contest.

Unless, of course, you stuck around that day at the track to watch me take a leak?

...

Oh my. (You should have told me you were into that already.)

:love:

Please please please no one post "useless without pictures":sick:

[devnull]

If I failed to anticipate something zooming out from a place on the road that I wasn't able to see, then I failed to protect myself.

If the vehicle didn't actually materialise out of thin air, then I should have read the road layout and anticipated it.

If you think that's asking too much, well... like I said. You gonna die.

:)



In all the years I did ambulance work, I never met the perfect driver/rider

I did, however, get to meet quite a few with the same attitude portrayed in this quote...
Guess they weren't perfect after all....

[Katman]

Please please please no one post "useless without pictures":sick:

Edit: Removes pictures.

:msn-wink:

[Ehgreiz]

Please please please no one post "useless without pictures":sick:

i think you just did :sick:

[jrandom]

I did, however, get to meet quite a few with the same attitude portrayed in this quote...
Guess they weren't perfect after all....

What, paranoia and an ongoing desire to drive or ride as defensively as possible?

Well, no, I guess nobody's perfect. One can only do one's best, eh.

Edit: Me, f'rinstance, I fall off all the time. I'm thinking of starting a bike-binning service.

"Tired of your motorcycle? Rather get an insurance payout than put it on TradeMe, but don't have the balls to have a mate 'steal' it? Call 0800 WE CRASH. Professional squids available 24/7 to throw your bike down the road in plausible accident scenarios. Don't delay, call today!"

[Big Dave]

"useless without pictures":sick:

and a magnifying glass.

[PrincessBandit]

Yes. Quite aware. It is a "Hobby" of mine.
There is a fine line between hobby and perversion, so I'm calling it a hobby ... for now.

pervert alert pervert alert mwahahahahaha:msn-wink:

[Katman]

and a magnifying glass.

Don't tell me you got caught out by one of those 'penis enlarging kits' as well?

[Ehgreiz]

Don't tell me you got caught out by one of those penis enlarging kits as well?

eww (stupid 10 character rule lol)

[Big Dave]

Don't tell me you got caught out by one of those penis enlarging kits as well?

Nah. The only thing I need adjusting is lose 10kgs.

[Katman]

Nah. The only thing I need adjusting is lose 10kgs.

Ahhhh, just imagine being able to look each other in the eye again. :love:

:msn-wink:

[Time Paradox]

Funny you dont see many asian riders around...

[Ehgreiz]

Funny you dont see many asian riders around...

lol i work with a few

[CB ARGH]

Holy shit. What a cock that asian driver was (stereotypical debate PLEASE)!

Glad you're okay man, we don't need another biker down. EVER AGAIN! :(

[Ehgreiz]

Holy shit. What a cock that asian driver was (stereotypical debate PLEASE)!

Glad you're okay man, we don't need another biker down. EVER AGAIN! :(

QFT

couldnt agree more mate

[CB ARGH]

QFT

Please explain the explanation of that QFT thingiemajig...

Edit: Wow, 400 posts and my ass hasn't even been out on the road on a bike. That's not good.

[Ehgreiz]

lol qft means quoted for truth, or at least something to that effect hehe

[oldrider]

Speed Doesn’t Kill Bikers

"Cars Do"

Yes, I almost got killed on Sunday too! :headbang:

At a servo, cage comes charging in and nearly knocks me over!

That's not what nearly killed me though.

Bastard gets out of his cage, nearly hits me with his door!

That's not what nearly killed me though.

I turn round and threaten to smash his fucking head in! (complete with other selected expletives)

Now "that's" what nearly killed me! :doh:

I forgot I'm too old for all that shit now and I can't fight any more anyway, it hurts me just moving these days!

Momentarily slipped into that old rage mode. :spanking:

The big cunt just ignored me and went about his business, so I took the opportunity and just went about mine too. (phew) :calm:

Don't ya just hate it when that happens, frickin cage drivers! :rolleyes: Cheers, (Lucky, or still just plain fucking silly) John.

PS: Moral is, we are never too old or too young to be stupid, stay alert but stay alive!

[HungusMaximist]

I fully agree with some of posters here , instead of letting your emotons take over (which is a very hard thing to do I agree!) next time, fucken take evasive action and get yourself out of the situation.

Road rage, pay backs, relentless angry horn toots, and emotions usually end up you being wasted by the car or by the law..

Bonus if you can teach the car drivers a lesson, but don't count on it!

[Irontusk]

QFT


Quite Fucking True.

400 posts without being on a bike.. ahaha, excellent, at this rate I'll be the same :brick:

It's incredibly difficult to keep rage in check in alot of stupid road situations, but if you can keep it under control then it's the safer option.. letting it out does feel good though huh. I was pissed off with everything on my way home tonight, stupid bike (lack of) I better get the damn thing tomorrow, spend all night just sitting on it if it's raining..

[<Rhino>]

f I failed to anticipate something zooming out from a place on the road that I wasn't able to see, then I failed to protect myself.

If the vehicle didn't actually materialise out of thin air, then I should have read the road layout and anticipated it.

If you think that's asking too much, well... like I said. You gonna die.


Thats the most bullshit I have ever read, anticipating every variable on the road is impossable, not to mention as YOU stated you couldn't even see it!!. Try telling that to the people that had been killed or had an accident obviously they lacked your super power.

There is an element of anticipation sure we all look for cars that are on the road, glance at the side roads, but if we could anticipate every single thing then there would never be accidents would there!

[Swoop]

Road rage, pay backs, relentless angry horn toots, and emotions usually end up you being wasted by the car or by the law..

Bonus if you can teach the car drivers a lesson, but don't count on it!
That is where bigger bikes, decent boots and armoured gloves come in handy.

[nodrog]

.... and i was driving up on my little putput uz 125 scooter at about 55 ....

were you speeding?

[Swoop]

were you speeding?

55? Is he INSANE!!!???
Speed kills. Slow down.:yawn:

[Ehgreiz]

haha 55-60 is the MAX i can do uphill, that was pretty much full throttle :P

need my 250 sooner than 21st of august ><

[Big Dave]

That is where bigger bikes, decent boots and armoured gloves come in handy.

For wanking?

[mattian]

Gotta give due respect to scooter riders though. I don't think I could ever feel safe on one unless I was riding on the footpath !! :dodge:

[dipshit]

scenario for ya Jrandom.

you are driving along, watching out ahead of you, taking note of cars on the side of the road, cars infront of you, cars coming towards you, when all of a sudden some guy comes screaming out of a blind side-road in your blind spot

There's your first mistake. Not paying enough attention to blind side-roads. Otherwise it wouldn't have been in your "blind spot". You don't only need to pay attention to cars on or near the road... you also need to pay attention to where cars could come from!

Overtaking with nothing coming the other way, only to see a car starting to turn into your overtaking lane because they are looking the other way not expecting someone to be travelling in the opposite direction on their side of the road is another typical example of this. Look for where cars could come from! Is the approach blind or would you have visibility of a car approaching? If there is any blind entrance onto the road you are on, then give it a double mental caution and allow your peripheral vision to earn its keep. Because someone could come screeching out of that entrance/side-road.

Granted you cannot always cover and foresee all possibilities, but the more you can reduce unforeseen incidences - the better the odds will be stacked in your favour. Sure no one is perfect but we can only try.

[NOMIS]

Happy to hear you came out unscathed :woohoo: I tell ya what ! You have to be extra vigilant while riding in the inner city.

I was a victim of "inner city" rush last tuesday. now i dont sweat very much but F*&%ing wankers.

[Big Dave]

Gotta give due respect to scooter riders though. I don't think I could ever feel safe on one unless I was riding on the footpath !! :dodge:

A 50cc job and I'm with you - but looking at your bikes up there - some of the new Vespas would give you a decent run for your money.

Not baggin' yours - but how well they go now.

[Swoop]

For wanking?

Haven't tried it with gloves on. What's it like?
Best gloves for the job?

[mattian]

Yep, you're probably right. Some of the new scooters made for todays market are little grunters. Most people don't realise this but, scooters were invented for women. :yes: I know I am going to cop alot of flak for this but, here goes anyway.
Back in the "olden" days, most women considered it very unlady like to lift their leg up and over a motorcycle, especially if they were wearing a skirt so..... some onto it Italian dude decided to invent "the womans motorcycle" hence, the scooter was born. Look ! now you can step through the bike without lifting your leg and exposing your knickers !!
I know I am in big trouble for this...... hahahahahaha....:bash:

[Ehgreiz]

Yep, you're probably right. Some of the new scooters made for todays market are little grunters. Most people don't realise this but, scooters were invented for women. :yes: I know I am going to cop alot of flak for this but, here goes anyway.
Back in the "olden" days, most women considered it very unlady like to lift their leg up and over a motorcycle, especially if they were wearing a skirt so..... some onto it Italian dude decided to invent "the womans motorcycle" hence, the scooter was born. Look ! now you can step through the bike without lifting your leg and exposing your knickers !!
I know I am in big trouble for this...... hahahahahaha....:bash:

nah not really anything sexist about that imo, and it makes sense... not sure if its true or not but it makes sense hehe

i mean cars were around since the lat 1800's, bikes were what? early 1900s? pretty sure they were around before WWI - and women in society were much more different then than they are now..

apologies also if anything i have said here offends any of the female KB'ers here, no offense/bigotry intended! :shutup:

[Big Dave]

Haven't tried it with gloves on. What's it like?
Best gloves for the job?

Dunno - I have a woman in.

[Lias]

No wonder your posting a big wah burger and Mc Cries thread about your shitty close call, with a fucked up responce like that.

Theres a huge fucken difference between a close call and someone dying.


Get of yah mothers nipple.

I laughed, I cried, I gave bling.

[Swoop]

Dunno - I have a woman in.

Wouldn't it be better to have a woman "around". Encapsulating, perhaps?:blip: