New vid from Beyond, GSX1400

[beyond]

Hiya,

Sunday was awesome. Had a wedding to go to so a quick run from Hunua to kaiaua was in order from 11.00am to 1.30pm. Had to have a blast and grabbed the vid camera for some on and off bike action.

Turn up the volume and enjoy :)

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=VbaMhjZ_nIQ

Was fun and heaps of bikes out too.

Shame Utube knocks the daylights out of a good resolution MPEG :(

[Ehgreiz]

nice ride man looked like a blast..

couple of close semi-calls there too haha

[beyond]

Yep, was a lot of fun and nice to get out without rain.
The roads were really crap though especially in all the good bits.

[Ehgreiz]

doh

yeah looked like there had been lots of slides around some areas there

[McJim]

I fucken miss that road. :yes:

[Slyer]

Sweet video! You had to go and pass all those bikers didn't you? ;)

What do you use for filming?

[martybabe]

:laugh: Oh you so sped that film up. Enjoyed that paul thanks , it's good to blow the cobwebs away eh. :niceone:

[Swampdonkey]

Cheers Beyond....Farkn nice ride mate.

[Patch]

think u need to get your suspension seen too - fark ridin that bouncy biscuit


are we supposed to be impressed by posting a vid of you, breaking how many road rules??


not even one wheelie - u suck.

[SixPackBack]

think u need to get your suspension seen too - fark ridin that bouncy biscuit


are we supposed to be impressed by posting a vid of you, breaking how many road rules??


not even one wheelie - u suck.

Not sure you could keep up huh?...........I gaurantee you would struggle!

Great vid Beyond:2thumbsup

[enigma51]

Feeeuken neow

[Patch]

I gaurantee you would struggle!
is that right?? you want to put your money where your big mouth is?? or you gonna learn to spell first??

[sinfull]

Not sure you could keep up huh?...........I gaurantee you would struggle!

Great vid Beyond:2thumbsup


is that right?? you want to put your money where your big mouth is?? or you gonna learn to spell first??
Race !
Race !
Race !
Race !
Race !
:corn::corn:

[zeocen]

Man I could never take those roads that fast, way too bumpy and so many blind corners with cars jumping lanes on them! I do love those roads though, nice to see how they are done by someone with balls :P Few hairy moments and "tut tut" moments but I watched it from start to finished, comparing myself to your lines, etc.. sheesh I have a long way to go re. cornering!

[SixPackBack]

is that right?? you want to put your money where your big mouth is?? or you gonna learn to spell first??

Someones got sand in their vagina:Pokey:

[jrandom]

... put your money where your big mouth is

I think that's something you should consider doing yourself one of these days, Mr Patch Sir.

;)

[Patch]

When myself is feeling well enough and my bike is going again - you damn right I'll come give you both the learn - if you either of you (SPB or JRamble) can afford the wager.

Promise - no bullshit. Peace out fukkers.

[enigma51]

Someones got sand in their vagina:Pokey:

Like sand through a vagina these are days of kb!

[SixPackBack]

When myself is feeling well enough and my bike is going again - you damn right I'll come give you both the learn - if you either of you (SPB or JRamble) can afford the wager.

Promise - no bullshit. Peace out fukkers.

Angry coont aint ya.

[marty]

i jst thought he (patch) was taking the piss......

passed bikes looked like a busa/blackbird/zx12-14?

[Kiwi Graham]

When myself is feeling well enough and my bike is going again - you damn right I'll come give you both the learn - if you either of you (SPB or JRamble) can afford the wager.

Promise - no bullshit. Peace out fukkers.

Stay safe guys take it out to Puke and go hard :girlfight:

[fizbin]

nice ride!

[jrandom]

When myself is feeling well enough and my bike is going again - you damn right I'll come give you both the learn...

A sick man with a broken bike taking out his frustrations on good bastards like beyond on the internet? You should be ashamed of yourself.

:nono:

Anyway, me personally, I've never made any claims to being a fast rider, and have no interest in proving anything in that regard. For that matter, neither did Sixpack - go back and read his post carefully.

If you want to race me just to see what happens, though, I'll be happy to oblige - but you'll have to wait until we can both afford race bikes in the same class. I'll see you on the track in a year or two's time.

Attempting to prove anything to anybody on the road is an idiot's game. You achieve nothing by mouthing off online in the style of carver et al other than making yourself look like a twat.

[jrandom]

i jst thought he (patch) was taking the piss...

Nope, he's genuinely angry. We still haven't figured out why.


passed bikes looked like a busa/blackbird/zx12-14?

It could well have been our very own Blackbird - I had a PM from him on Monday asking if the black 1400 going like a bat out of hell on that road was me.

As if!

:laugh:

I can't access YouTube at work, but I look forward to watching beyond's handing out of many learnZ when I get home tonight. He's a man whom it's always a pleasure to learn from.

[Swoop]

Stay safe guys take it out to Puke and go hard
Puke has to be the worst place for bikes to race. No run off area and heaps or Arnco.

[Patch]

i jst thought he (patch) was taking the piss......
I was . . . to start with . . . but then SPB . . .


Attempting to prove anything to anybody on the road is an idiot's game. You achieve nothing by mouthing off online
So what is the point of the video then . . . it proves what - other than the roads were dirty, busy roads, possibly still wet in places an sum dude is using it like a race track - an some wonder why people die. Its shit like this that makes the headlines. 3 people died that day. Other KB'rs have died in a similar fashion - an yet . . . . some people are either too ignorant/arrogant/stupid to think it would happen to them.

u should really look in the mirror before you start telling others about shootin their gob off


Nope, he's genuinely angry. We still haven't figured out why.
an yet another assumption


The point of my post . . . you figure it out.

[jrandom]

I was . . . to start with . . .

Why be horrid for no reason, then?


So what is the point of the video then . . . it proves what - other than the roads were dirty, busy roads, possibly still wet in places an sum dude is using it like a race track - an some wonder why people die. Its shit like this that makes the headlines. 3 people died that day. Other KB'rs have died in a similar fashion - an yet . . .

Have you ever ridden with beyond?

Have you read what he's written here on the subject that you're pontificating about in an attempt to justify your random nastiness?

Your comments are entirely misdirected. Your own apparent dislike of the whole of humanity appears to be behind them, rather than any real concern for anyone's safety.


u should really look in the mirror before you start telling others about shootin their gob off

We could go round in that circle all day.


an yet another assumption

If it looks like shit, smells like shit and burns with a thick stinky smoke once dry... I'm not inclined to call it chocolate cake.

[Kiwi Graham]

Puke has to be the worst place for bikes to race. No run off area and heaps or Arnco.

Yep I agree :eek: but at least all the traffic is going in the same direction :niceone:

[jrandom]

Yep I agree :eek: but at least all the traffic is going in the same direction :niceone:

Bring on Hampton Downs!

:woohoo:

[kiwifruit]

think u need to get your suspension seen too - fark ridin that bouncy biscuit


Thats movement in the camera mount etc, not the suspension

[paulmac]

mate, thats a farken cool vid. Lots of mud etc on the road by the look of it tho

[SixPackBack]

I was . . . to start with . . . but then SPB . . .


So what is the point of the video then . . . it proves what - other than the roads were dirty, busy roads, possibly still wet in places an sum dude is using it like a race track - an some wonder why people die. Its shit like this that makes the headlines. 3 people died that day. Other KB'rs have died in a similar fashion - an yet . . . . some people are either too ignorant/arrogant/stupid to think it would happen to them.

u should really look in the mirror before you start telling others about shootin their gob off


an yet another assumption


The point of my post . . . you figure it out.

Was not trying to wind you up Patch.......all I would say is that Beyond has riding abilities that many of us admire-take the time to meet him [top bloke] and ride with him yourself and tell us he is anything other than a very talented rider.

[Katman]

That video reminded me of Skidmark before he grew up.

I don't give a fuck how talented Beyond is.

There's some fuckin' stupid shit on there.

[enigma51]

That video reminded me of Skidmark before he grew up.

Some fuckin' stupid shit on there.

I don't give a fuck how talented he is.

Holy crap is the moon out or something or are you guys just having PMS.

I have ridden with Beyond on a number of occasions and he definetly aint a dangerous rider.

I wasnt on this ride but im sure the camera is not telling the full "story"

[Maha]

I watched a little bit of it this morning before going to work, I get bored easily so went to work early....8.01am.
Interesting though, I watched a vid ages ago, Jimmy twosome put it up, going over the Taka's....I never got bored with that vid?... funny that.

[Katman]

The bits that fucked me off most?

4.29
5.58
9.17

Not just stupid - fucking stupid!

[enigma51]

The bits that fucked me off most?

4.29
5.58
9.17

Not just stupid - fucking stupid!

You taking the piss ?

[Katman]

You taking the piss ?

Why would I be taking the piss?

That video just shows that Beyond hasn't an ounce of consideration for any road user other than himself.

[Mikkel]

A guy goes for a blat on his bike, makes a video and post it on the internet. Nothing new there.

Personally I don't like U2 very much and I wish he would hold the camera a bit more steady... but then again those are minor things.

I find it very difficult to evaluate how fast people are going in such videos... Looked nice and smooth to me - perhaps a bit faster over the dodgy bits than I would have found comfortable, but then again I'm a nana.
Looked like a nice ride to me.

[Mikkel]

You taking the piss ?

The guy doesn't have a sense or humour - nor self-irony for that matter - just ignore him and move on. :yes:

[enigma51]

Why would I be taking the piss?

That video just shows that Beyond hasn't an ounce of consideration for any road user other than himself.

Clearly never met the guy or ever been on a ride with him and very clearly not on this one.

Your passing judgment on video that is no bigger than a mans hand at a angle that is clearly not at face level. Your a true kb'er

[saul]

What a funny ol thread:love::laugh:

[Stormer]

Well I liked it, good ride.
Cheers for the effort to do it and post it up.

I`ve got most of the GhostRider DVDs, and I feckin` luv`em!
Risky riding...fer sure, that`s why I got them.
I don`t ride anywhere like that, but then I ain`t no 100kph saint either.:stoogie:

[dipshit]

Clearly never met the guy or ever been on a ride with him and very clearly not on this one.

So, what's that got to do with anything..???

That vid is a perfect demonstration of Katman's tag line.

[SixPackBack]

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[beyond]

Well, as usual a thread turns into some extra entertainment. Would you believe I got my first ever red rep the whole time I have been online with KB.
Do I need to say who? :(

Ok, firstly thanks for those of you I've ridden with who will vouch for my "careful" "considerate" driving. It's always a pleasure riding with you whenever we can.

Some really good comments here.

Main reason for the vid?
I believe the GSX1400 is one of the most underated modern sports tourers on the planet. Over and over again I have considered selling her and maybe getting something sportier but quite frankly it is probably one of the best all round sports tourers you could get your hands on. The vid was to show you it's awesome attributes.

Now, I was not riding anywhere near 100% taking into account the road conditions and traffic. Quick....yes but mad, certainly not. I like to come home from a ride. The video camera angle may show some "dum" moments, I can assure you they were all made with careful calculations regarding velocity and speed and road conditions. I used to ride a hell of a lot faster and harder than that.

To some, they will appear crazy to others boring just as this thread has pointed out.

Suspensions is perfect for me. The camera however is hard to keep still on a moving bike, a Panasonic Min DV the older bigger ones, with no image stabiliser.

Simple answer to the points made of stupid is that you had to be there. All manouevres were made in complete safety with plenty of room for error and you just really had to be there before you can judge.

Quick point for all the rock throwers. You break the law just once and you have broken the law period. You are just as guilty as I am in regard to the letter of the law. So, if you have never broken the law, judge away.

Cheers for the posts peeps :)

[Grahameeboy]

Was not trying to wind you up Patch.......all I would say is that Beyond has riding abilities that many of us admire-take the time to meet him [top bloke] and ride with him yourself and tell us he is anything other than a very talented rider.

Agreed....he just rides the beast like, well a beast.....but he still an hoon:shifty:

[Grahameeboy]

Well, as usual a thread turns into some extra entertainment. Would you believe I got my first ever red rep the whole time I have been online with KB.
Do I need to say who? :(

Ok, firstly thanks for those of you I've ridden with who will vouch for my "careful" "considerate" driving. It's always a pleasure riding with you whenever we can.

Some really good comments here.

Main reason for the vid?
I believe the GSX1400 is one of the most underated modern sports tourers on the planet. Over and over again I have considered selling her and maybe getting something sportier but quite frankly it is probably one of the best all round sports tourers you could get your hands on. The vid was to show you it's awesome attributes.

Now, I was not riding anywhere near 100% taking into account the road conditions and traffic. Quick....yes but mad, certainly not. I like to come home from a ride. The video camera angle may show some "dum" moments, I can assure you they were all made with careful calculations regarding velocity and speed and road conditions. I used to ride a hell of a lot faster and harder than that.

To some, they will appear crazy to others boring just as this thread has pointed out.

Suspensions is perfect for me. The camera however is hard to keep still on a moving bike, a Panasonic Min DV the older bigger ones, with no image stabiliser.

Simple answer to the points made of stupid is that you had to be there. All manouevres were made in complete safety with plenty of room for error and you just really had to be there before you can judge.

Quick point for all the rock throwers. You break the law just once and you have broken the law period. You are just as guilty as I am in regard to the letter of the law. So, if you have never broken the law, judge away.

Cheers for the posts peeps :)

Respect as always Paul.....

[Katman]

All manouvres were made in complete safety with plenty of room for error and you just really had to be there before you can judge.


Bullshit. They might have seemed completely safe to you, but do you know the level of experience of the bike riders you passed? Or their impression of the degree of 'safety' that surrounds them? What about the car drivers? Do you know their levels of experience?

There are plenty of entirely possible senarios that could have made any one of those "safe manoeuvres" anything but safe.

[Grahameeboy]

Bullshit. They might have seemed completely safe to you, but do you know the level of experience of the bike riders you passed? Or their impression of the degree of 'safety' that surrounds them? What about the car drivers? Do you know their levels of experience?

There are hundreds of entirely possible senarios that could have made any one of those 'safe' manoeuvres anything but safe.

Hey, have you got 'Kataracts" or soming......

[beyond]

Bullshit. They might have seemed completely safe to you, but do you know the level of experience of the bike riders you passed? Or their impression of the degree of 'safety' that surrounds them? What about the car drivers? Do you know their levels of experience?

There are plenty of entirely possible senarios that could have made any one of those "safe manoeuvres" anything but safe.

Err, at the risk of sounding patronising, don't get out of bed in the morning because every day brings dangers that you cannot account or prepare for. Life and living is only by grace alone. No one can plan for the unexpected or be certain that you will not cause problems for someone else.

I for one don't want to live life in a padded room in case I get injured. I do however make sure that I do not endanger others about me. Again, you had to be there.

[enigma51]

Bullshit. They might have seemed completely safe to you, but do you know the level of experience of the bike riders you passed? Or their impression of the degree of 'safety' that surrounds them? What about the car drivers? Do you know their levels of experience?

There are plenty of entirely possible senarios that could have made any one of those "safe manoeuvres" anything but safe.

You must be from way down south or something

I remeber a similiar conversation with a guy on kb that went on and on about how was riding dangerous when which he managed to judge from a foto

[beyond]

Respect as always Paul.....

Cheers Graham. :)

[enigma51]

Err, at the risk of sounding patronising, don't get out of bed in the morning because every day brings dangers that you cannot account or prepare for. Life and living is only by grace alone. No one can plan for the unexpected or be certain that you will not cause problems for someone else.

I for one don't want to live life in a padded room in case I get injured. I do however make sure that I do not endanger others about me. Again, you had to be there.

I will ride with you any day mate!

[Katman]

I do however make sure that I do not endanger others about me.

And again, I'll say bullshit.

[Maha]

Hey, have you got 'Kataracts" or soming......

I had mine removed a few years ago....
Heres what I saw.... beyond posted the speed 220, then a few seconds later posted about drivers not using indicators. At that speed, someone in a car wouldn't even know you are there until you pass (doesn't excuse the point about not using indicators) but my point is, I myself have been in that situation before, in a car and on the bike, all of a sudden, a bike buzz's you and ya think wtf??? where did that come from?
Im in no doubt Beyond had it under controll.

[enigma51]

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[Grahameeboy]

And again, I'll say bullshit.

and I say tomato....

[Grahameeboy]

I had mine removed a few years ago....
Heres what I saw.... beyond posted the speed 220, then a few seconds later posted about drivers not using indicators. At that speed, someone in a car wouldn't even know you are there until you pass (doesn't excuse the point about not using indicators) but my point is, I myself have been in that situation before, in a car and on the bike, all of a sudden, a bike buzz's you and ya think wtf??? where did that come from?
Im in no doubt Beyond had it under controll.

Plus....Paul knows that road like like like.........real well

[beyond]

I will ride with you any day mate!

Sweet :)

You ride well and I have always enjoyed my rides with you and the rest of the crew.

[enigma51]

Katman I have the perfect kb thread for you

CLICK HERE (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79612)

[dipshit]

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[enigma51]

Sweet :)

You ride well and I have always enjoyed my rides with you and the rest of the crew.

If i get all the ducks inline I will get a 1400 to come and hoon


feeeeuken neeeow

[Bikernereid]

Awesome vid, looks sweet.

[jrandom]

I will ride with you any day mate!

Seconded.

Now that I'm home and can access YouTube, I gotta say, thank you for sharing, Paul - that was lovely to watch. Respect, as always.


And again, I'll say bullshit.

You think Paul's riding was dangerous... well, like he implies, just hopping on a bike in the morning to go to work is far more danger than many folk would be willing to deal with.

I won't go into this at any length. It's not worth bothering over much further, IMHO. I'm sure peeps have duly noted your points about what you consider safe and unsafe riding, you've made them clearly, let's not let it degenerate into nastiness, eh?

You know what I think? I think you should totally head out for a ride on Betty next time I'm down. Couple of hours around your favourite central NI roads. Catch the GSX1400 bug at your own pace.

Keen?

:sunny:

[jrandom]

If i get all the ducks inline I will get a 1400 to come and hoon

Welcome to take mine out for the day anytime bro, just let me know in advance to get you on the insurance etc.

[zeocen]

Anyway back to the video, can't be arsed funelling through the bad points..

Beyond, when you look through a blind corner, where is your head looking at? I have video of me doing the exact same road (albeit wet, mossy and at dusk) going 1/20th of the speed because I just can't judge blind corners due to being afraid of a car coming around across the white line and always changing where I'm looking. I don't think I'm a bad rider, I just haven't 'perfected' my cornering... but seeing you take the same roads far faster than me, it makes me think maybe I need to rethink my structure in looking into a corner..

Cheers.

PS. sorry for a valid question, here's some insults to keep the thread ontopic

Donor is a cunt! Wait, he's not even in this thread, damnit!

[Katman]

You know what I think? I think you should totally head out for a ride on Betty next time I'm down. Couple of hours around your favourite central NI roads. Catch the GSX1400 bug at your own pace.

Keen?

:sunny:

Thanks for the offer Dan. I'm sure the 14 is a great bike to ride but, quite frankly, I don't have any desire to ride anything other than the Kat.

(It's a sickness - I know).

:msn-wink:

[Blackbird]

Nice to see us on your vid Paul (2 Blackbirds and a Busa). First time for us on this road and we were poodling along watching out for the green bits on the road when this loud GSX with an effing loud can comes flying past on a corner and none of us saw you coming! Looked bloody impressive from the back!

We did wave when you were parked up at the Kaiaua toilets, but might yet get to meet you face to face!

Cheers,

Geoff

[1vanvan1]

Nice video. That road is always a great ride! I also know it very well!

Not judging as I am not perfect, I saw 2 bad calls in that video. One was overtaking those 3 bikers coming up that corner. There is a short straight after you could of got them on. Second overtaking that car on the 35kmph corner coming down to Kawakawa bay. Its kinda blind. But i do love that corner!

[dipshit]

Heres what I saw.... beyond posted the speed 220, then a few seconds later posted about drivers not using indicators. At that speed, someone in a car wouldn't even know you are there until you pass

Exactly. And what if the bike he passed going through the slip decided to move into the other wheel track at the last moment...???

Yeah yeah, we know beyond thinks he is real good and all that... but what is his chances of riding like that every day for the next five years without his luck running out?

[jrandom]

Thanks for the offer Dan. I'm sure the 14 is a great bike to ride but, quite frankly, I don't have any desire to ride anything other than the Kat.

(It's a sickness - I know).

Definitely a sickness.

:laugh:

Oh, well, at least it's a Suzuki. Own the muthafuckin racetrack au! I'll let you off this time.

[jrandom]

...what is his chances of riding like that every day

Every day? You saw the vid; he'd been off the bike for six weeks. Give the man a break hey. Gotta cut a little bit loose now and then.

And, heck, that wasn't even loose.

[Mom]

So what is the point of the video then . . . it proves what - other than the roads were dirty, busy roads, possibly still wet in places an sum dude is using it like a race track - an some wonder why people die. Its shit like this that makes the headlines. 3 people died that day. Other KB'rs have died in a similar fashion - an yet . . . . some people are either too ignorant/arrogant/stupid to think it would happen to them.


Problem for me is beyond knows what can happen...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=39925



I wasnt on this ride but im sure the camera is not telling the full "story"

I am quite sure it is not the full story, I watched the whole video, and have to say there were times on there that even allowing for the fact I was not there, the riding was outside of the law and "dangerous" as in...posting 220 as a "random number" on the clip and then coming up behind a car at speed complaining there was no indication...Luck more than good management kept beyond safe on that trip!


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Best you add me then mate, cos that demonstration was nothing to boast about at all!


Quick point for all the rock throwers. You break the law just once and you have broken the law period. You are just as guilty as I am in regard to the letter of the law. So, if you have never broken the law, judge away.
Cheers for the posts peeps :)

I am not chucking rocks at you, far from it mate! I just hope that some of our more impressionable members do not hold your posted video as a benchmark and attempt to be a man like you. :sunny:

[beyond]

I'm liking this thread. Some good points and it shows how people can get impressions of photos and vids that aren't always correct.
Wasn't going to but I'll cover some issues here:
"Not judging as I am not perfect, I saw 2 bad calls in that video. One was overtaking those 3 bikers coming up that corner. There is a short straight after you could of got them on. Second overtaking that car on the 35kmph corner coming down to Kawakawa bay. Its kinda blind. But i do love that corner!"

Overtaking the 3 bikers was not an issue. I wasn't riding at 100% and could have braked while leaving room for any of them. I saw they were keeping well left and it's extremely rare for riders on a left hander to swing wide at the speed they were going so there was always going to be room for two in the left lane "if" a car came out of nowhere. I crossed the centre line momentarily becuase I could but would not have needed to if the worst happened.

Coming into Kawa on the tight left hander. I always look down the hill over the gully to the other side and see if anything is coming. You can overtake really safely here down and up hill once you've checked the road BUT the car on the left I was overtaking actually sped up and tried to muscle me off the road. You can't see that on the vid as it looks ahead. Again, I knew nothing was coming and were safe in the other lane and were checking ahead the whole time just in case.

[SixPackBack]

Best you add me then mate, cos that demonstration was nothing to boast about at all!


Watchya talkin' about willis?

Ignore list has improved my viewing pleasure immeasurably-you should try it

[beyond]

Nice to see us on your vid Paul (2 Blackbirds and a Busa). First time for us on this road and we were poodling along watching out for the green bits on the road when this loud GSX with an effing loud can comes flying past on a corner and none of us saw you coming! Looked bloody impressive from the back!

We did wave when you were parked up at the Kaiaua toilets, but might yet get to meet you face to face!

Cheers,

Geoff

Sorry I missed you mate. Shame you didn't stop for a chin wag. Would really like to catch up with you sometime.

[beyond]

Anyway back to the video, can't be arsed funelling through the bad points..

Beyond, when you look through a blind corner, where is your head looking at? I have video of me doing the exact same road (albeit wet, mossy and at dusk) going 1/20th of the speed because I just can't judge blind corners due to being afraid of a car coming around across the white line and always changing where I'm looking. I don't think I'm a bad rider, I just haven't 'perfected' my cornering... but seeing you take the same roads far faster than me, it makes me think maybe I need to rethink my structure in looking into a corner..

Cheers.

PS. sorry for a valid question, here's some insults to keep the thread ontopic

Donor is a cunt! Wait, he's not even in this thread, damnit!


Some say ride to the vanishing point. You'll come to grief if you do that on public roads. Firstly wherever the road goes I'll be watching it even kilometres away to see if there are obstacles or traffic. I look ahead but constantly scan up close for potholes, tar patches, moss, wet etc or ripples that could upset your line. I'm always scanning as far as I can see and up close, calculating closing speeds and traffic movements.

In blind corners I'll swing wider to get to see around them quicker than riding too tight. I'll look as far around the corner as possible while using peripheral vision to scan up close for bad surfaces. I always prepare for the worst and are always ready to change direction and brake if necessary.

Most "close calls" from other driver errors can be easily avoided by keeping calm and collected and not panicking like hitting the brakes hard or standing the bike up.
You can easily change direction in corners on a heavy bike by countersteering and being ready to drop straight into the corner again once you have avoided the obstacle or offline motorist.

[beyond]

Exactly. And what if the bike he passed going through the slip decided to move into the other wheel track at the last moment...???

Yeah yeah, we know beyond thinks he is real good and all that... but what is his chances of riding like that every day for the next five years without his luck running out?


The guy at the slip was a new rider. There was no way he was going to change direction or come into my wheel line when he would have to leave an excellent dry wheel track and cross a whole lot of mud to get on my track.
If he was mad enough to do that, I would have had no problem crossing mud or moving over to give him room. I don't mind spin ups or expected rear wheel slides so wouldn't have had an issue giving them room.

[Katman]

The guy at the slip was a new rider.

And that is exactly what makes your move stupid and inconsiderate.

I imagine they were concentrating fairly heavily on what they were doing. Your invasion of their space could easily have resulted in them losing control.

[beyond]

And that is exactly what makes your move stupid and inconsiderate.
??

Even new riders are supposed to check their rear view mirrors all the time.
Even when I first started riding and driving a car I was always aware of what was going on around me at any time. A prerequisite for gaining ones licence or you shouldn't be on the road aye?

[Headbanger]

Lmao.

Katman is an extremist, You won't find any common ground to settle on.

I'd love to comment on your speeding, overtaking, and what looks to be irresponsible riding all round, But that would just make me a hypocritical bastard.:devil2:


Looks to me like you know the road like the back of your hand......

[dipshit]

Every day? You saw the vid; he'd been off the bike for six weeks. Give the man a break hey. Gotta cut a little bit loose now and then.

And, heck, that wasn't even loose.

So you wouldn't like his chances then if that was his daily commuting route and riding style?

A friend of a friend recently lost his brother a few months ago on a GSX1400. He used to commute 120ks each day. Apparently he was a bit of a hard charger and even had shift lights added to his 1400. One day however he somehow managed to fuck up a corner. A car coming the other way saw he wasn't going to make the corner and tried to pull over as far as they could to give him more room... but the bike still just clipped the car and went straight into a bank.

It really doesn't matter if you think you are good if you leave no margin for era or leave it down to luck if you get home or not. The law of averages will be against you.

[beyond]

Lmao.

Katman is an extremist, You won't find any common ground to settle on.

I'd love to comment on your speeding, overtaking, and what looks to be irresponsible riding all round, But that would just make me a hypocritical bastard.:devil2:


Looks to me like you know the road like the back of your hand......

LOL :) Yeah, I've ridden that road as many times as I can since my first bike a Suzuki Hustler 250 and then a Yamaha RD350. Used to ride these roads all the time and still do now. Love them. Apart from the Coro loop these are probably some of the best roads close to home....oh, then there's Highway 22 and and.... :)

[Katman]

The guy at the slip was a new rider.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79338

[Headbanger]

So you wouldn't like his chances then if that was his daily commuting route and riding style?

A friend of a friend recently lost his brother a few months ago on a GSX1400. He used to commute 120ks each day. Apparently he was a bit of a hard charger and even had shift lights added to his 1400. One day however he somehow managed to fuck up a corner. A car coming the other way saw he wasn't going to make the corner and tried to pull over as far as they could to give him more room... but the bike still just clipped the car and went straight into a bank.

so...your point is someone you have never met and have no connection with died on a similar bike to the one used in the video?

ffs....get a fuckin grip.

[beyond]

So you wouldn't like his chances then if that was his daily commuting route and riding style?

A friend of a friend recently lost his brother a few months ago on a GSX1400. He used to commute 120ks each day. Apparently he was a bit of a hard charger and even had shift lights added to his 1400. One day however he somehow managed to fuck up a corner. A car coming the other way saw he wasn't going to make the corner and tried to pull over as far as they could to give him more room... but the bike still just clipped the car and went straight into a bank.

It doesn't really matter if you think you good or not if you leave no margin for era or rely on luck to get you home. The law of averages will be against you.

That's sad stuff mate. :(
I used to commute on a bike to work, around 100,000kms covered that way I would say. I've had my share of accidents and have no intention of having another one, but again, life is full of chances and there are some lucky and some not and you don't need to be on a bike to find that out.

The closest I've come to breaking my neck in the last month is crawling down stairs in the dark after getting up for work so as not to wake the missus (something I do every morning) missing a step and taking the quicker route down. Ouch :(

[beyond]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79338

Umm, I hate riding in the dark and avoid it like the plaque if I can.
No beef Katman. Life is like it is cos we are all different and that's a good thing and makes for good threads too.
I'm sure you mean well and have different perspectives about life. Hell you might be a mountain climber and try on K2 or something that I have no intention of doing at all.

maybe we all have such wide views so that somewhere along the line we create a cosmic balance eh? :)

Thanks for the rep by the way. :jerry:

[Mom]

??

Even new riders are supposed to check their rear view mirrors all the time.
Even when I first started riding and driving a car I was always aware of what was going on around me at any time. A prerequisite for gaining ones licence or you shouldn't be on the road aye?

And I am sure they do, eyes front, mirror left, mirror right, eyes front, check speed, corner ahead, consider gear, mirror left, mirror right, eyes front, change down, SOME CLOWN FLYS PAST!!!!!!!! scares the bejeaysus out of the rider, wobble, wobble, regain control, negotiates the corner really slowly, takes a deep breath and opens the throttle. If you approach a slower rider at speed, at least give them the benefit of inexperience and dont expect them to have your amazing ability to scan 300 things at the same time and still travel at speed.

[jrandom]

If you approach a slower rider at speed...

You've never been subjected to one of kiwifruit's 'surprise bike buttsex' flybys, have you?

:pinch:

[dipshit]

The guy at the slip was a new rider. There was no way he was going to change direction or come into my wheel line when he would have to leave an excellent dry wheel track and cross a whole lot of mud to get on my track.

You mean you *hoped* he/she wasn't going to change tracks?

All it would have taken was for him/her to think... hmmm that other track looks cleaner/doesn't have that rock like this side does... :Oops:

It was still all their side of the road to use freely as he/she chose.

[Mom]

You've never been subjected to one of kiwifruit's 'surprise bike buttsex' flybys, have you?

:pinch:

NO, unless he was one of the cocks that dogged a learner speed ride I was TEC for a few years ago between Waipu and Langs. Frankly I believe that kind of riding must be done by men with extremely teeny penises!

Christ I could be a poet!

[Headbanger]

Meh, If your going faster then the traffic you encounter then you have to pass. Its the law of the universe.

God himself couldn't go back and change the rules.

[dipshit]

Even new riders are supposed to check their rear view mirrors all the time.

If they were a new rider then they probably would have been more worried about the mud.

And look at what some experienced riders just said before...


First time for us on this road and we were poodling along watching out for the green bits on the road when this loud GSX with an effing loud can comes flying past on a corner and none of us saw you coming!

What's the rush? Why not sit behind other bikes for a few moments until they have had time to check their mirrors and get to know you are behind them? Why are you in such a hurry? Is someone waiting at the end of the road with a chequered flag?

[terbang]

Ridden with Paul on many an occasion, bloody smooothe rider who rides well within his own limits. Very nice to watch indeed. Like all of us, he risks life and limb by just getting out of bed in the morning, but thats where it stops and I have had many conversations with him about riding safety in general. His views are sound and what you are seeing is a thinking rider who is very aware of his threats and manages his errors. I like the video, its a spectacular exposition of the 1400 on some of our roads around here. I instantly recognize Pauls riding style too. This is a motorcycle forum and we come here to do the motorcycle thing, videos and all.
Oh BTW, a lot of people also die in their beds.

[beyond]

Ridden with Paul on many an occasion, bloody smooothe rider who rides well within his own limits. Very nice to watch indeed. Like all of us, he risks life and limb by just getting out of bed in the morning, but thats where it stops and I have had many conversations with him about riding safety in general. His views are sound and what you are seeing is a thinking rider who is very aware of his threats and manages his errors. I like the video, its a spectacular exposition of the 1400 on some of our roads around here. I instantly recognize Pauls riding style too. This is a motorcycle forum and we come here to do the motorcycle thing, videos and all.
Oh BTW, a lot of people also die in their beds.

Thanks Bruce. Good to hear from you mate. You home again or still flying the Lear Jet?

[Katman]

Oh BTW, a lot of people also die in their beds.

None of us have any right to impose risk upon others.

[Edbear]

Well, as usual ...(SNIP)...Some really good comments here.

Main reason for the vid?
I believe the GSX1400 is one of the most underated modern sports tourers on the planet. Over and over again I have considered selling her and maybe getting something sportier but quite frankly it is probably one of the best all round sports tourers you could get your hands on. The vid was to show you it's awesome attributes.

Now, I was not riding anywhere near 100% taking into account the road conditions and traffic. Quick....yes but mad, certainly not. I like to come home from a ride. The video camera angle may show some "dum" moments, I can assure you they were all made with careful calculations regarding velocity and speed and road conditions. I used to ride a hell of a lot faster and harder than that.

To some, they will appear crazy to others boring just as this thread has pointed out.

...(SNIP)...Cheers for the posts peeps :)


Nice to see us on your vid Paul (2 Blackbirds and a Busa). First time for us on this road and we were poodling along watching out for the green bits on the road when this loud GSX with an effing loud can comes flying past on a corner and none of us saw you coming! Looked bloody impressive from the back!

We did wave when you were parked up at the Kaiaua toilets, but might yet get to meet you face to face!

Cheers,

Geoff


Shame you guys couldn't have met up! Paul's a nice guy and a very good rider!

Nice Vid Paul! Reckon not the ideal road for the C50T, though... Still going to go through there again one day...

[dipshit]

so...your point is someone you have never met and have no connection with died on a similar bike to the one used in the video?

More than likely that guy and his mates thought he was real good too.

[Headbanger]

Quite possibly that guy and his mates thought he was real good too.

I have no idea, Nor any idea who the guy was, or who his mates are, or any idea as to his or his mates attitude to anything, nor do you, Whats your point?

Are you just demonstrating you can imagine anything you like to support a weak argument? Must be time to bust out a few statistics.

[Katman]

Paul's a nice guy and a very good rider!



No-ones questioning the fact that Paul's a nice guy (or that he's a talented rider).

However, anyone who posts up a video like that on a public forum (even a motorcycling forum) and doesn't expect to cop some flak for it would have to be somewhat retarded.

[beyond]

Shame you guys couldn't have met up! Paul's a nice guy and a very good rider!

Nice Vid Paul! Reckon not the ideal road for the C50T, though... Still going to go through there again one day...

Thanks ED. Yeah, awesome roads. You'd enjoy a run on the C50T through there mate. Wait till the moss and mud disappears. You'll love it I'm sure and the greasies at Kaiaua are worth the ride :)

[beyond]

No-ones questioning the fact that Paul's a nice guy (or that he's a talented rider).

However, anyone who posts up a video like that on a public forum (even a motorcycling forum) and doesn't expect to cop some flak for it would have to be somewhat retarded.

:) I expected flack. Hell I get flack for just posting something nice at times.
It's KB after all innit...

[terbang]

None of us have any right to impose risk upon others.
Look mate, its all about risk. Your black and white outlook is flawed, as it doesn´t represent reality. Get into a car, boat, aeroplane or ride a motorcycle, you are always going to be at risk of hurting yourself or others.
How we manage the risk is what counts. That means thoughtfully driving, sailing, flying or riding within our means. The risk is never entirely eliminated, just managed to an acceptable level. Thats life and if you believe in risk free travel, then don´t ever get onto an aeroplane again. I´ve seen a lot of idiots on the roads riding way in excess of their ability, thus increasing their own and others risk to an unacceptable level. Beyond (paul) is not one of them.

[dipshit]

Whats your point?

Too many people confuse fast riding with good riding.

[Katman]

:) I expected flack.

Then can I assume you've finally gotten over the red?

:whistle:

[zeocen]

Thanks for the reply Beyond.. maybe I will do the same road after work one evening and record it (eye POV with the cam) to show where I am looking and what I can correct. I'm sure my nana riding won't cause as much as an uproar :D

Saying that, apart from a few this argument/debate is quite sedate and readable !

[smoky]

Too many people confuse fast riding with good riding.

Too many people confuse good riding with fast riding....! :niceone:

[Edbear]

No-ones questioning the fact that Paul's a nice guy (or that he's a talented rider).

However, anyone who posts up a video like that on a public forum (even a motorcycling forum) and doesn't expect to cop some flak for it would have to be somewhat retarded.

Quite so. I'm sure Paul expected some comment, but I have met him severael times and watching the vid, while he was going quicker than I would, (I'm not that great a rider...), I didn't see anything to alarm me. It's different in the video from actually being in the saddle, he could see better and further than the camera can show you.

Some of the comments were a bit OTT in my humble opinion...

[Katman]

Thanks for the reply Beyond.. maybe I will do the same road after work one evening and record it (eye POV with the cam) to show where I am looking and what I can correct. I'm sure my nana riding won't cause as much as an uproar :D



I think these videos are posted more for the 'stroke' value for the poster than for any 'educational' value.

[Maha]

Plus....Paul knows that road like like like.........real well

And even he admitts to the odd poor 'moment of reason'.
Blackbird said '' didnt even see you coming'' which is what I was getting at in a previous post. Its not only YOU the rider out there at any given moment, and its the 'any given moment' that can catch you out. Go back to December 06' and a couple of very experienced riders were caught out on a road they knew...real well.
Na sorry, wont/dont buy into that shit. Nobody is invincible on the road...ever!

[jrandom]

I think these videos are posted more for the 'stroke' value for the poster...

Dunno about that, I got a fair bit of stroke value out of it too.

:D

[Katman]

Quite so. I'm sure Paul expected some comment, but I have met him severael times and watching the vid, while he was going quicker than I would, (I'm not that great a rider...), I didn't see anything to alarm me. It's different in the video from actually being in the saddle, he could see better and further than the camera can show you.



Quite frankly, I don't give a shit about what Paul could see. I'm more concerned with the general impression of motorcyclists that has been left on a couple of motorcyclists and quite a few car drivers.

[Edbear]

Thanks ED. Yeah, awesome roads. You'd enjoy a run on the C50T through there mate. Wait till the moss and mud disappears. You'll love it I'm sure and the greasies at Kaiaua are worth the ride :)

YEah, if they're as good as they were about 15 years ago, the last time I stopped there...

We're planning a trip up North in about a month, the family haven't been through Waipoua and seen Tane Mahuta, so we'll take the bike and the kids can follow in the car. The Son-in-law is from Germany and his brother and wife are here now, too, so the four of them are looking forward to the trip. My local mate, Lemure, wants to get away on their VL1500 too, so with a few others along, should be a good trip.

[beyond]

Then can I assume you've finally gotten over the red?

:whistle:

LOL, red doesn't worry me mate. I post cos I enjoy sharing my experiences and if I get green or red it's no worry.

Be nice to catch up sometime.

[Katman]

And while videos like this continue to be posted in the public forum and other motorcyclists continue to respond with "fuckin cool vid man", motorcyclists will continue to be seen as reckless fuckwits and the government will not have the slightest compunction in treating us exactly as such.

[McJim]

And while videos like this continue to be posted in the public forum and other motorcyclists continue to respond with "fuckin cool vid man", motorcyclists will continue to be seen as reckless fuckwits and the government will not have the slightest compunction in treating us exactly as such.

But we are reckless fuckwits :weird: unless we get stabilisers.:rofl:

[Headbanger]

Be damned if I'm going to change myself into something that could be defined as respectable by the Government.

Not that I could if I wanted to.

[jrandom]

... motorcyclists will continue to be seen as reckless fuckwits

Yeah... personally, I've kinda made my peace with that, aye.

Whilst actually trying not to be one, of course.

Y'only live once. I reckon I'll just leave saving the world and fixing the public impression of motorcyclists to someone else, and get on with doing my bit by standing as an electoral candidate for the ALCP.

:doobey:

[Katman]

Be damned if I'm going to change myself into something that could be defined as respectable by the Government.

Not that I could if I wanted to.

Yeah, bring on the cheesecutters.

Yeah, bring on double the ACC levy.

Yeah, bring on a 500cc restriction on the bikes imported into NZ.

Yeah, you're a winner.

[McJim]

Yeah, bring on a 500cc restriction on the bikes imported into NZ.

.

There's nowt wrong with a 500cc 2 stroke. I could live with that.

[jrandom]

Yeah, bring on the cheesecutters.

Well, without digressing on this thread too much, not everyone on this forum necessarily takes the same stand as the vocal anti-cheesecutter brigade, y'know.


Yeah, bring on double the ACC levy.

I got way more than my money's worth out of ACC last year when I highsided and broke my hand. If they want to charge me twice the premium they do now via my bike rego, that'd seem fair to me. I am, after all, a high-risk customer.


Yeah, bring on a 500cc restriction on the bikes imported into NZ.

Has that actually been proposed, or did you just make that up right now?

[Headbanger]

Yeah, you're a winner.


Damn right I am.

And I have a hot wife.

Being me is awesome.

Hows the misery-guts holier-then-thou thing you got going on workin out?

[1vanvan1]

I'm liking this thread. Some good points and it shows how people can get impressions of photos and vids that aren't always correct.
Wasn't going to but I'll cover some issues here:
"Not judging as I am not perfect, I saw 2 bad calls in that video. One was overtaking those 3 bikers coming up that corner. There is a short straight after you could of got them on. Second overtaking that car on the 35kmph corner coming down to Kawakawa bay. Its kinda blind. But i do love that corner!"

Overtaking the 3 bikers was not an issue. I wasn't riding at 100% and could have braked while leaving room for any of them. I saw they were keeping well left and it's extremely rare for riders on a left hander to swing wide at the speed they were going so there was always going to be room for two in the left lane "if" a car came out of nowhere. I crossed the centre line momentarily becuase I could but would not have needed to if the worst happened.

Coming into Kawa on the tight left hander. I always look down the hill over the gully to the other side and see if anything is coming. You can overtake really safely here down and up hill once you've checked the road BUT the car on the left I was overtaking actually sped up and tried to muscle me off the road. You can't see that on the vid as it looks ahead. Again, I knew nothing was coming and were safe in the other lane and were checking ahead the whole time just in case.

You do not need to explain yourself to me... As I said I am not perfect and have done stupid things myself. Those are just my observations. You are correct though, i wasn't there and didn't see where you were looking, speed you were doing, where the car was etc so I may be intirely wrong.

I have met you one time when I came to find my mate on his orange zx6r and we was following you. You seem like a nice guy.

[Katman]

Has that actually been proposed, or did you just make that up right now?

Of course I made it up. :msn-wink:

It's not outside the realms of possibility though.

(Need I remind you all that there's more smokers in NZ than there are motorcyclists?)

[jrandom]

It's not outside the realms of possibility though.

The only similar thing I'm aware of anywhere is the French 100hp restriction.

But that's the French, fer chrissakes.

And a 100hp restriction is a lot less draconian than a 500cc one.


(Remember, there's more smokers in NZ than there are motorcyclists.)

Do you think they'd vote for me?

:shifty:

[Katman]

Do you think they'd vote for me?

:shifty:

Just quietly, you've got my vote.



:msn-wink:

[jrandom]

Just quietly, you've got my vote.


Oh my!

You'd have to move to the Helensville electorate at some point within the next three years if you wanted to use it, though.

John Key, I'm-a comin' tae git ye.

:lol:

[beyond]

You do not need to explain yourself to me... As I said I am not perfect and have done stupid things myself. Those are just my observations. You are correct though, i wasn't there and didn't see where you were looking, speed you were doing, where the car was etc so I may be intirely wrong.

I have met you one time when I came to find my mate on his orange zx6r and we was following you. You seem like a nice guy.

I remember meeting you too. At the bottom of the Hunua gorge. Your mate was meant to have gone down Popes road with you guys.
Yeah, was good meeting you and a nice day for a ride back then too :)

Cheers

[zeocen]

I think these videos are posted more for the 'stroke' value for the poster than for any 'educational' value.

Well no one would make videos if they didn't want to show off a little bit! I make them to show off the scenery for other international motorcyclists i'm connected with, I never thought of using them as a proxy for improving my motorcycling skills.. so I think I'm gonna give it a go. Of course there's a storm coming tomorrow!

I'll even post it in the General Discussion forum for you to point out my dangerous riding, look forward to it! :sunny:

[Katman]

Well, without digressing on this thread too much, not everyone on this forum necessarily takes the same stand as the vocal anti-cheesecutter brigade, y'know.

I'm sure you've noticed - neither do I.




I got way more than my money's worth out of ACC last year when I highsided and broke my hand. If they want to charge me twice the premium they do now via my bike rego, that'd seem fair to me. I am, after all, a high-risk customer.

Lucky you - I haven't made a claim to ACC in over 20 years.

[kiwifruit]

Vid shows potentially dangerous situations approached in a less than cautious manner. I can see how the video could be interpreted as erratic, dangerous driving.

[zeocen]

Just trying to lighten the mood, apologies for trying to be friendly.

[Forest]

The only similar thing I'm aware of anywhere is the French 100hp restriction.

But that's the French, fer chrissakes.

And a 100hp restriction is a lot less draconian than a 500cc one.



Do you think they'd vote for me?

:shifty:

All cars and bikes sold into the Japanese domestic market are supposed to be factory restricted to a maximum speed of 180km/h.

[Squiggles]

What action would you have taken if at 3:45 another biker had come over the crest of the hill doing the same speed?

What signals did the car at 3:20 give to indicate it was pulling left?

Im interested to hear how you would have reacted or what you saw that i missed, im sure ill come up with more as i watch further

Is the cam helmet mounted? fair bit of brake dive as you hit the bridge just after it says 220

[boomer]

I'm loving it, we just need to get some stoppies and wheelies included in the days outing Paul...!!

As for this thread.. its compressed to near on half its size with 3 gobshites on ignore.. i can only imagine what tripe is being talked and how EVERY word, post and opinion has been dissected by one individual.:bye:


ahahha :wari:

[Bikernereid]

From what I saw the scenery is fantastic- thanks BEYOND for showing me an awesome road to visit when I get to NZ.

I think it is a really good idea to watch your riding style, capabilities etc through home made videos. I have been fortunate to watch OWNERS progress with his stunting thanks to his video contributions on youtube!!

[Grahameeboy]

And even he admitts to the odd poor 'moment of reason'.
Blackbird said '' didnt even see you coming'' which is what I was getting at in a previous post. Its not only YOU the rider out there at any given moment, and its the 'any given moment' that can catch you out. Go back to December 06' and a couple of very experienced riders were caught out on a road they knew...real well.
Na sorry, wont/dont buy into that shit. Nobody is invincible on the road...ever!

Agreed too....Dec 06 wasa freak accident

[Zuki Bandit]

Awesome vid dude!

[Blackbird]

Well this thread has certainly brought out ignorant comments from people who weren't there and the inferences made by others from what I said which simply aren't accurate.

Yep, the 3 of us didn't see Paul coming. I was leading our group, it was our first time on the northern end of that stretch of road, some shady parts were quite green; our situational awareness was directed at keeping a reasonable pace but mainly at that moment on reading the road surface conditions. Paul caught us entering a bend and our focus was forward for a few seconds to get a safe line - this is almost certainly why we didn't see him. As Paul said, we were keeping well left and there was plenty of room. I can't speak for him, but he may have also considered that riders of big bikes keeping well left weren't about to do anything dumb and even if we did drift out, he still had room. I certainly didn't feel at risk. Can't comment about the rest of the ride as like most of the more rabid posters, we weren't there.

Talk about "He who is without sin, cast the first stone". You'd think from some of the comments that some of us have never enjoyed a good fast fang on roads that we know intimately.

[dipshit]

Talk about "He who is without sin, cast the first stone". You'd think from some of the comments that some of us have never enjoyed a good fast fang on roads that we know intimately.

Yeah yeah, we know. Motorcyclist's shit never stinks. Only fucking cage drivers do stupid shit. :confused:

[Dakara]

Probably my most common ride that road... just a shitload faster!!

Many of the dangerous shit comments are ott. Remembering that we're watching from the camera's PoV not the riders eyes so miss a lot of things he's seen.

In saying that, few moments there would of scared the shit outta me had I been behind ya :crazy: but if I were, I'd of been too far behind to see anyway :whistle:

[Headbanger]

All cars and bikes sold into the Japanese domestic market are supposed to be factory restricted to a maximum speed of 180km/h.

Interesting, My Hilux cuts out at 180Km/h.

But that's fast enough......

[Edbear]

Interesting, My Hilux cuts out at 180Km/h.

But that's fast enough......


But my bike won't do 180...:bye:

[enigma51]

But my bike won't do 180...:bye:

Thats because of the weight it has to carry :Pokey:

[beyond]

What action would you have taken if at 3:45 another biker had come over the crest of the hill doing the same speed?

What signals did the car at 3:20 give to indicate it was pulling left?

Im interested to hear how you would have reacted or what you saw that i missed, im sure ill come up with more as i watch further

Is the cam helmet mounted? fair bit of brake dive as you hit the bridge just after it says 220

Ok, reasonable questions so they deserve an answer.
The car at 3.20. I was on the brakes right until I had assessed there was no driveway on the right to turn into and her hands on the steering wheel were moving left. Only when I was sure she wasn't going to turn in front of me did I reopen the throttle. Frame at 3.32 shows her beginning her turn just before I start to pass.

I assume you mean 3.42 not 3.45.
The camera was mounted on the top of the headlamp, I could already see way down the hill past the bridge and to the next corner from eye height.
I refuse to overtake in areas where I can't see well enough ahead. That's asking for the short straw.

Wasn't bike dive. On my 1400 the front preload is near maximum. It was the camera nearly flopping over the front under hard braking. :)

[Scouse]

That video reminded me of Skidmark before he grew up.

I don't give a fuck how talented Beyond is.

There's some fuckin' stupid shit on there.Whats that saying now er oh yes "arseholes are like opinions every site has one"

[Edbear]

Thats because of the weight it has to carry :Pokey:

:angry2: :bash: :2guns: :girlfight: :cry: :thud:

[Headbanger]

But my bike won't do 180...:bye:


Is it broken?

[Edbear]

Is it broken?

No, it's a Boulevard...;)

It'll do 170 two-up though.:whistle:

[Swoop]

Having finally downloaded and watched it all...

Looked like a nice ride!
It certainly lacks the visual impact that we normally see through a helmet visor, so a lot of info is missing in regards to wide-angle (peripheral) views and distance information.

Nice to see somone who has ridden a road a few times...

[Squiggles]

Wasn't bike dive. On my 1400 the front preload is near maximum. It was the camera nearly flopping over the front under hard braking. :)

Haha, needs moar duct tape! Cheers for the answers :2thumbsup

[Sidewinder]

is that right?? you want to put your money where your big mouth is?? or you gonna learn to spell first??

far dude your a loser.
watch out, the mormon few have his back!!!

[Sidewinder]

I was . . . to start with . . . but then SPB . . .


So what is the point of the video then . . . it proves what - other than the roads were dirty, busy roads, possibly still wet in places an sum dude is using it like a race track - an some wonder why people die. Its shit like this that makes the headlines. 3 people died that day. Other KB'rs have died in a similar fashion - an yet . . . . some people are either too ignorant/arrogant/stupid to think it would happen to them.

u should really look in the mirror before you start telling others about shootin their gob off


an yet another assumption


The point of my post . . . you figure it out.

far you talk more shit than i do, i cant beleave it at all.

[Sidewinder]

You taking the piss ?

nah he isnt its just that katman is gay thats all

[Sidewinder]

the only thing i didn't like was the music in the 1st 3mins that sounded like it was from a chessie porno!!!!!

well nice riding as always, and for dangerous riding, well what was dangerous about it?
we got the old kb problem of having kill joys!!
i read half of this thread before giving up on all the bullshit and just watch the vid thinking it was going to be hard out dodgy, but it just wasn't at all.
But don't think beyond is slow and that your flash sports bike will own him, because he owns the road, well the mormon few do, but we will give he his own little area to own for now.

but fuck his riding is fine and the rest of you fags need to get off mums tit and stop crying over nothing all the time!!!!!!!!!!:rockon::gob::gob::gob::gob::gob::go b:

[carver]

The bits that fucked me off most?

4.29
5.58
9.17

Not just stupid - fucking stupid!

harden up pussy, just wait for the "few's" series, better not watch it or you'll have a heart attack!

[Crazy Steve]

Hiya,

Sunday was awesome. Had a wedding to go to so a quick run from Hunua to kaiaua was in order from 11.00am to 1.30pm. Had to have a blast and grabbed the vid camera for some on and off bike action.

Turn up the volume and enjoy :)

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=VbaMhjZ_nIQ

Was fun and heaps of bikes out too.

Shame Utube knocks the daylights out of a good resolution MPEG :(

Nice ride Beyond....:niceone:

But I think I could keep up on my Girlfriends Er6n....

Even over take you....:baby:

Unless its raining and her tyres were fckd....

Crazy Steve..

[Sidewinder]

Nice ride Beyond....:niceone:

But I think I could keep up on my Girlfriends Er6n....

Even over take you....:baby:

Unless its raining and her tyres were fckd....

Crazy Steve..

what ever!!!!!!!!!
you would have a chance if you wern't a homo and had a real bike!!!!

[smoky]

... his riding is fine and the rest of you fags need to get off mums tit and stop crying over nothing all the time!!!!!!!!!!:rockon::gob::gob::gob::gob::gob::go b:
But this is KB land, where some people want to clean up the image of bikers, make them respectable pillars of society.
You James Dean ‘wanna be’s’ should just grow up and be a fine up standing law abiding citizen like …..??????
I can only think of those two gay cops who were on that TV show CHiPs - but I'm sure there are a few like that on here. (Honda riders mostly)