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Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 06:03
To millions of women it has been the great liberator over the past four decades, allowing them the freedom to control their fertility and their relationships. But the contraceptive Pill could also be responsible for skewing their hormones and attracting them to the “wrong” partner.

A study by British scientists suggests that taking the Pill can change a woman’s taste in men — to those who are genetically less compatible.

The research found that the Pill can alter the type of male scent that women find most attractive, which may in turn affect the kind of men they choose as partners. It suggests that the popular form of contraception — used by a quarter of British women aged between 16 and 50 — could have implications for fertility and relationship breakdowns.

The findings, from a team at the University of Liverpool, add to growing evidence that the hormones in the Pill influence the way that women assess male sexual attractiveness.

The Pill is thought to disrupt an instinctive mechanism that brings together people with complementary genes and immune systems. Such a couple, by passing on a wide-ranging set of immune system genes, increase their chances of having a healthy child that is not vulnerable to infection.

Couples with different genes are also less likely to experience fertility problems or miscarriages. Experts believe that women are naturally attracted to men with immune system genes different to their own because of their smell.

Commenting on the latest study, the researchers said that it could indicate that the Pill disrupts women’s ability to judge the genetic compatibility of men by means of their smell.

They said that this might not only impact on fertility and miscarriage risk, but could even contribute to the end of relationships as women who stop or start taking the Pill no longer find their boyfriend or husband so attractive.

Several previous studies have suggested that women tend to prefer the smell of men who are different from them in a cluster of genes called the major histocompatibility complex (MHC), which governs the immune system. Some of these studies have also found that this effect is not seen among Pill users.

The latest study, published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society, has now assessed the impact of Pill use in the same women, both before and after they began using oral contraception. A group of 97 women was tested, some of whom started taking the Pill during the course of the research. All had their MHC genes tested and were asked to sniff T-shirts worn in bed by men with different patterns of MHC genes.

Unlike some previous studies, the research did not find any preference for dissimilar MHC genes. However, when the women started taking the Pill their preferences shifted towards the scent of men with more similar genes to their own.

This suggests that Pill use has an effect on perceptions of scent attractiveness, even if there is no underlying female preference for similar or dissimilar MHC genes.

Craig Roberts, who led the study, said: “The results showed that the preferences of women who began using the Pill shifted towards men with genetically similar odours. Not only could MHC-similarity in couples lead to fertility problems, but it could ultimately lead to the breakdown of relationships when women stop using the Pill, as odour perception plays a significant role in maintaining attraction to partners.”

The research also found differences between women in relationships, who tended to prefer odours of men with different MHC genes, and single women, who tended to prefer the smell of MHC-similar men.

This could potentially indicate that if women are tempted to have an affair, they are more likely to choose a man with very different genes, to maximise the diversity of any offspring that they might have.

The scientists said that more work was needed to explain the way various studies have obtained different results on whether women naturally prefer men with different or similar MHC genes. They also cautioned that the importance of scent in human mating preferences remains uncertain.

The research backs up an earlier study of how women’s perceptions of partners can alter when taking the Pill. Psychologists from St Andrews and Stirling universities found that women on the Pill tend to prefer macho types with strong jaw lines and prominent cheekbones.

However, women who are not taking that form of contraception seem to be more likely to go for more sensitive types of men without traditionally masculine features.

enigma51
14th August 2008, 07:11
However, women who are not taking that form of contraception seem to be more likely to go for more sensitive types of men without traditionally masculine features.


Explains it all realy

anyone else noticed that there is more male beaty products on tele than lady products? Gay rugby playing men!

Grahameeboy
14th August 2008, 07:16
Now I know where I have been going wrong

Pwalo
14th August 2008, 08:11
That's a lot of conclusions to draw from what looks like a short term test involving 97 respondents.

Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 08:12
That's a lot of conclusions to draw from what looks like a short term test involving 97 respondents.

Medical investigations are usually fairly rigorous but the more participants the better.

rachprice
14th August 2008, 08:30
Interesting preliminary findings! Be curious to see how the research evolves.
I personally don't like the pill and don't use it.
Who were the authors?

Pwalo
14th August 2008, 10:55
Medical investigations are usually fairly rigorous but the more participants the better.

This isn't a medical investigation, but I guess this is the clincher 'They also cautioned that the importance of scent in human mating preferences remains uncertain.'

oldrider
14th August 2008, 11:14
Easy answer there guys, start taking the pill yourselves and hook up with the wrong woman too, it may turn out to be the woman of your dreams. :Pokey: John.

PS: Watch out for the "man" of your dreams though! :lol:

alanzs
14th August 2008, 11:27
Cool, don't need to shower as often. Fuck deodarant as well.

Skyryder
14th August 2008, 17:46
Easy answer there guys, start taking the pill yourselves and hook up with the wrong woman too, it may turn out to be the woman of your dreams. :Pokey: John.

PS: Watch out for the "man" of your dreams though! :lol:


That's why I stopped. Couldn't choose who was the man of my dreams.:jerry:


Skyryder

Naki Rat
14th August 2008, 18:43
This isn't a medical investigation, but I guess this is the clincher 'They also cautioned that the importance of scent in human mating preferences remains uncertain.'

Yeah, everybody knows that taste really matters too:bleh: :Oops:

Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 20:09
Cool, don't need to shower as often. Fuck deodarant as well.

Lucky lady that gets you then:eek5::lol:

Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 20:13
This isn't a medical investigation, but I guess this is the clincher 'They also cautioned that the importance of scent in human mating preferences remains uncertain.'

Sorry should have been clearer meant that it is investigating a medical related area, the pill and is not just some research done by some womens mag that can't be replicated to check for test-retest reliability.

PrincessBandit
14th August 2008, 20:19
Great. Just one more complication to an already complex set of complexities.....
Maybe we should all just go for le au naturel smell, complete with hairy pits etc to really bring out those pheromones! (Eeewwwww) any takers for Pepe Le Pew? :laugh:

slowpoke
14th August 2008, 20:22
Hmmm, I don't see how it changes anything. I've always used the "pinch their nose and open wide" technique myself.......

Big Dave
14th August 2008, 20:41
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Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 20:44
if only OWNERs smelt like that!!

rottiguy
14th August 2008, 20:54
I doubt that women can smell much when most guys spray copious quantities of deodorant and aftershave on which masks their natural scent.
Not that I am saying everyone should go around being stinky, just that I don't think they could smell much through all the haze.
Also I see no reason why humans don't have a pheromone attractant like other animals, it's just that it takes a very brave person to go around letting their natural oder permeate everywhere, pretty much all soaps and shampoos have a deodorant and/or perfume in it so even if ya don't hose on the anti-stink spray you will already have a degree of masking of your natural oder.

Trudes
14th August 2008, 20:59
A dab of pussy juice behind the ear?

rottiguy
14th August 2008, 21:16
oh cricky you know just what to say to a man :eek5: :laugh: you don't hear me saying no do you :whistle:


A dab of pussy juice behind the ear?

Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 21:24
But how does it affect lesbians and bisexual women. did they think of testing these women. Or was it done purely for mating research, inquiring minds want to know!!

BIHB@0610
14th August 2008, 22:05
Just another damn good argument for a hysterectomy methinks :yes:

Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 22:06
Just another damn good argument for a hysterectomy methinks :yes:

IUD works for me but then again I am sooooo happy with my bloke.

BIHB@0610
14th August 2008, 22:07
But how does it affect lesbians and bisexual women. did they think of testing these women. Or was it done purely for mating research, inquiring minds want to know!!

We could try and figure it out ...... :love: p/t - although Scrivy has said he'll pay ..... :dodge:

Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 22:11
We could try and figure it out ...... :love: p/t - although Scrivy has said he'll pay ..... :dodge:

Sounds good to me!

Big Dave
14th August 2008, 22:28
But how does it affect lesbians and bisexual women. did they think of testing these women. Or was it done purely for mating research, inquiring minds want to know!!

Be happy to donate photographing the research - purely scientific of course.

Bikernereid
14th August 2008, 23:34
We could try and figure it out ...... :love: p/t - although Scrivy has said he'll pay ..... :dodge:

Am going to speak to some good lesbian friend of mine about this. Although I doubt they are on the pill they have either dated straight chicks or have straight chick friends. Maybe they can shed some more light on this subject.