Police warnings - any consequences?

[steved]

After being warned by a cop, does the warning get entered into anything other than the cops black notebook? You know, just for future reference. :innocent:

[98tls]

Depends what the warnings for i guess,the likes of no licence the cop can opt to warn you but that definately goes on record,next time its an impounded bike.I got a warning from a cop the other day in the form of a thumbs down,i waved in thanks and slowed down.

[kiwifruit]

Not officially

[Grub]

I think you'll find that all stops are recorded on the police computer .... forget the noteboooks, that's 50's technology.

The next cop to stop you will call in your rego and they will tell him that you were stopped and proabbly any result from that stop.

[Skyryder]

I think they have to issue you with a warning. Got one years back and I thought I had been ticketed but when reading it it was a warning. That as I said was some years back but they might have changed the procedure.


Skyryder

[Headbanger]

Depends on the size of the town you live in.....

[SeppoDave]

I'm a bit of a scanner hobbyist (OK, geek) and frequently you'll hear an officer call in someone's rego and the the dispatcher will say "Previously Queried" about the vehicle, even if there are no fines or citations or points against it.

So yes, all warnings are recorded. I've also heard them run regos without pulling the vehicle over - also recorded.

[Nagash]

Everytime your vehicle's registration is looked up it's recorded and there's a reason for looking it up written down.

Only reason I know this was because when some wank t-boned me I got the details of his car from the police and he'd been looked up.. alot.

Also, when pulled over I got asked if I had been in trouble before, said no (which was the truth), and he went and checked my rego, came back and said I was good to go. For a loss of license offence.. don't think i'll get away with it again

[Madness]

They record all 3T's (when a vehicle is pulled over) but I think you'll find that a verbal warning isn't recorded electronically. Being forbidden to drive is a different story and like it was said earlier, how big is your home town?.

[Divot]

They record all 3T's (when a vehicle is pulled over) but I think you'll find that a verbal warning isn't recorded electronically. Being forbidden to drive is a different story and like it was said earlier, how big is your home town?.

Quite right

[Patrick]

After being warned by a cop, does the warning get entered into anything other than the cops black notebook? You know, just for future reference. :innocent:

Notebooks are to justify your existence and that you aren't too scared to earn your pay. (As well as writing down stuff...)


I think you'll find that all stops are recorded on the police computer ....
The next cop to stop you will call in your rego and they will tell him that you were stopped and proabbly any result from that stop.

Yes they are recorded as a stop, where, when and by whom... that is all. Unless the one who stopped you happened to be listening in at the time and advised the colleague what occurred.....:buggerd:

[scumdog]

Yes they are recorded as a stop, where, when and by whom... that is all. Unless the one who stopped you happened to be listening in at the time and advised the colleague what occurred.....:buggerd:

Or the cop that has you stopped calls Comms to see what happened when the last cop stopped you.

May not apply in the cities but it happens a lot down here.

Makes a bit of an influence on whether a ticket is issued or not.

Funnily enough those with smart mouths and attitudes seem to cop more tickets....

[Madness]

Funnily enough those with smart mouths and attitudes seem to cop more tickets....

Unless you're pootling through the Waikato in perfect conditions, have been riding for 6 hours and get pulled by the HP whilst doing 111km/hr. Then, no matter how civil and polite you might be, you're fucked.

[scumdog]

Unless you're pootling through the Waikato in perfect conditions, have been riding for 6 hours and get pulled by the HP whilst doing 111km/hr. Then, no matter how civil and polite you might be, you're fucked.


Thanks for the tip -I will never go near the Waikato (or the beer of that name)

[Dooly]

Thanks for the tip -I will never go near the Waikato (or the beer of that name)

Waikato is fine to go thru.
But yeah, the beer...............
:oi-grr::lol:

[Winston001]

Or the cop that has you stopped calls Comms to see what happened when the last cop stopped you.

May not apply in the cities but it happens a lot down here.

Makes a bit of an influence on whether a ticket is issued or not.




Ooohhhh that's NAUGHTY. Bad cops. Say it isn't so.



Hmmm Privacy Act, Bill Of Rights....I feel a civil action coming on.... :girlfight:

[scumdog]

Ooohhhh that's NAUGHTY. Bad cops. Say it isn't so.



Hmmm Privacy Act, Bill Of Rights....I feel a civil action coming on.... :girlfight:


"Hey XX, I see you stopped YY last night, what was he like, was he OK?"

"Yeah, good as gold, drives fairly sensibly even if he looks a bit rough"

OR

"Hey XX, I see you stopped ZZ last night, what was he like, was he OK?"

"Nah, a mouthy little prick, takes no notice of warnings, reckons we can't touch him for anything and we get calls about him hooning and speeding around town all the time"

Guess who is going to drive off happier??

[Ixion]

Privacy Act is fine, special clauses dealing with "for purposes of law enforcement". And I don't see any BoR issues. Cop calls up "I've stopped Dr Rossi. Understand a few others have also, whats the deal ". Don't see any issues with that.

[spudchucka]

I'm a bit of a scanner hobbyist (OK, geek) and frequently you'll hear an officer call in someone's rego and the the dispatcher will say "Previously Queried" about the vehicle, even if there are no fines or citations or points against it.

So yes, all warnings are recorded. I've also heard them run regos without pulling the vehicle over - also recorded.

When they say previously queried it just means that the vehicles rego has been checked on the computer system on prior occasions, it doesn't necessarily mean that there are warnings of any sort attached to it.

However, a person's ID or a vehicle rego can have warning flags attached to it, (person is known to carry knives for instance) or can have intelligence notings recorded against them, which would normally be how warnings are formally recorded, (other than in the 1950's style notebook).

[Winston001]

Oh Ixion, why do you fellow travellers have to be so contrary. Here we have the forces of the state colluding at gathering private information about innocent citizens. Its enough to make a liberal......I dunno......vote Labour!!

[Winston001]

"Hey XX, I see you stopped YY last night, what was he like, was he OK?"

"Yeah, good as gold, drives fairly sensibly even if he looks a bit rough"

OR

"Hey XX, I see you stopped ZZ last night, what was he like, was he OK?"

"Nah, a mouthy little prick, takes no notice of warnings, reckons we can't touch him for anything and we get calls about him hooning and speeding around town all the time"

Guess who is going to drive off happier??

Sheesh, surely you can write some of that stuff down - or maybe coms record it?? Otherwise my plans for getting into the NZ Law Journal are shot.... :doh:

[Ixion]

Oh Ixion, why do you fellow travellers have to be so contrary. Here we have the forces of the state colluding at gathering private information about innocent citizens. Its enough to make a liberal......I dunno......vote Labour!!


'Snot private information. If Chummy has come (legitimately and legaly) to the attention of the police, they are entitled to share that information within the force.Police have a statutory duty to maintain the law, advice ot officer son previous police activities is part of that duty. And they ain't colluding , it's one department. 'N they don't know he's innocent until they check him out, do they. Different matter if I or you were to call up and ask for info on Chummy. That would be illegal.

[Speedracer]

if the guy you pull over is not in the smart guy/arsehole catergory but has demerits does that mean instant ticket..?

[scumdog]

if the guy you pull over is not in the smart guy/arsehole catergory but has demerits does that mean instant ticket..?

At times it CAN make a difference.
Somebody doing 118kmh who has 95 demerits obvioulsy doesn't get the hint....

[Grub]

Here we have the forces of the state colluding at gathering private information about innocent citizens.!!

Nice try but innocent citizens don't get traffic stops.

Oh and BTW, Labour wants more info on you than anyone else cause they want to run your life for you

[firefighter]

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[firefighter]

Nice try but innocent citizens don't get traffic stops.

Oh and BTW, Laour wants more info on you than anyone else cause they want to run your life for you

yeah they do I was pulled over as routine check last week, wasn't doing anything wrong- speeding etc, it was a saturday night so I guess just making sure I was sober etc, no probs with that, just doing his job.Was a friendly enough fulla, a bit scary to think that it maybe taken the wrong way if I get pulled over another time for something minor though! (being now I know that it would have been recorded.....!)

is it recorded as a routine stop or what?

[Grub]

is it recorded as a routine stop or what?

Depends on the circumstances but the stop usually includes them calling your reg which gives them make, model, year, colour, and currency of reg & warrant. You must be a nasty suspicious looking character, must be the mustache. Oh it might also have been between 1am and 4am - everyone out at that time is regarded as up to no good or pissed or both ... or of course, a shift worker.

If it's at a checkpoint, I don't believe any of that is recorded .... just speak into the lil breath tester

[awayatc]

Always thought police works FOR society I belong to......
and AGAINST those who don't abide it's laws....

Nothing wrong with that....

Apart from the odd anal retentive police individual of course.....

[SPman]

Nice try but innocent citizens don't get traffic stops.

Oh and BTW, Labour wants more info on you than anyone else cause they want to run your life for you
There are NO innocent citizens!

You are born, therefore you are guilty!

Labour doesn't want to run your life for you any more than any other totalitarian oligarchy - like - the UK, the USA, etc etc. It just wants the info.

[firefighter]

Depends on the circumstances but the stop usually includes them calling your reg which gives them make, model, year, colour, and currency of reg & warrant. You must be a nasty suspicious looking character, must be the mustache. Oh it might also have been between 1am and 4am - everyone out at that time is regarded as up to no good or pissed or both ... or of course, a shift worker.

If it's at a checkpoint, I don't believe any of that is recorded .... just speak into the lil breath tester

hahaha, nah pretty tame looking guy, in a standard car, was late at night so I know why he pulled me up-no issues at all with that, my issue is if I get pulled over for something trivial like not indicating out of a roundabout (im usually pretty good at doing it but sometimes you fuck up) and them calling up comms and them saying I was pulled over a couple of weeks ago (or whenever) and deciding rather than giving a warning they give me a ticket, i'm sure it was a routine stop so it won't make a difference (and I was nice and polite) but hell ya never know.....that's what I mean is it actually noted down as a "routine stop" or just "vehicle pulled over ", because if it is the later one would think they'd be more inclined to think "there's a reason for that" and decide a ticket is more deserved.....not trying to read too much into it but just like to know how it all works

[newby]

FF, if there is absolutely nothing wrong and it was just for the fun of pulling someone over, and they just checked you over, all was good and told you to have a good night, then it wont be in the system.

If however they pull you over because you have a taillght out for example, but let you go without issuing a fine or anything, that will probably be in the system.

[firefighter]

FF, if there is absolutely nothing wrong and it was just for the fun of pulling someone over, and they just checked you over, all was good and told you to have a good night, then it wont be in the system.

If however they pull you over because you have a taillght out for example, but let you go without issuing a fine or anything, that will probably be in the system.

yeah he just pulled me up, had a chat, showed licence, have a good night kinda thing, pretty straight forward

[newby]

In that case it will be in the system that that cop was doing a traffic stop at that place at that time, but wont have anything about you. He will however have everything written down in his notebook though, just incase anything had happened in the future to cover his arse.

[Patrick]

Funnily enough those with smart mouths and attitudes seem to cop more tickets....

A point lost... in here.... at times....


Unless you're pootling through the Waikato in perfect conditions, have been riding for 6 hours and get pulled by the HP whilst doing 111km/hr. Then, no matter how civil and polite you might be, you're fucked.

Quota. Those 100kmph signs were meant for..... errrr... ummm...????


Thanks for the tip -I will never go near the Waikato (or the beer of that name)

The towns OK... that beer though....


Waikato is fine to go thru.

That it does... right through ya... damn horrible beer it is.... Water plucked directly from the river, where toilets are flushed into.... apparently....:whistle:


Oh Ixion, why do you fellow travellers have to be so contrary. Here we have the forces of the state colluding at gathering private information about innocent citizens. Its enough to make a liberal......I dunno......vote Labour!!

Thats who the guilty like to vote for too... funny that... Why is that?


yeah he just pulled me up, had a chat, showed licence, have a good night kinda thing, pretty straight forward

Like so many thousands of others.... All is good. Most vehicles are checked some time or another, for various reasons, some stopped and spoken to, some on the move... some for doing stupid shite...


In that case it will be in the system that that cop was doing a traffic stop at that place at that time, but wont have anything about you. He will however have everything written down in his notebook though, just incase anything had happened in the future to cover his arse.

More to do with letting everyone know he is stopping XX at this location so if the shite hits the fan and he gets attacked, the cavalry knows where he is.

[madbikeboy]

Taking this excellent thread on a small tangent (well two tangents):

In the US, a surprising amount of serial killers are caught from minor traffic infringements, stuff like taillights being out etc. I got that from a book by John Douglas, he is the guy who fathered the idea of criminal profiling, and he has a couple of quite interesting books on the subject.

Tanget number two, I got pulled by a M/C cop a few weeks back, really decent sort of a guy, told me off without being an ass about it. Didn't write me a ticket, but I slowed down because he talked to me in a way that left me with dignity intact.

Peace.

[Patrick]

Sums it up. Talk to me how you want me to talk to you... thats how I start talking to ya....

Wanna be a prick? I can be a big one...

Hang on, that came out all wrong... Dang....:argh:

[Swoop]

Most vehicles are checked some time or another, for various reasons, some stopped and spoken to, some on the move...
I would have liked to have been able to pull over a bike cop on the motorway today.
He had a very nice flip front helmet, but with the built-in retractable visor/sunglasses.
I wanted to ask what make of helmet it was! Do they have a choice of helmet or is is "standard issue"?

[Lias]

Wanna be a prick? I can be a big one...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_enlargement :innocent:

[firefighter]

I would have liked to have been able to pull over a bike cop on the motorway today.
He had a very nice flip front helmet, but with the built-in retractable visor/sunglasses.
I wanted to ask what make of helmet it was! Do they have a choice of helmet or is is "standard issue"?

hahaha, iv'e wondered that too (if they have a choice) there was a one that used to hang around whenuapai shops- I walked over to ask him one day and have a look at the bike but he saw me coming and gave me one of those-I don't feel like talking to you looks and left! hahaha, I know how he feels I guess he gets a lot of people wanting to look at his bike and asking stoopid questions.

[Blackshear]

hahaha, iv'e wondered that too (if they have a choice) there was a one that used to hang around whenuapai shops- I walked over to ask him one day and have a look at the bike but he saw me coming and gave me one of those-I don't feel like talking to you looks and left! hahaha, I know how he feels I guess he gets a lot of people wanting to look at his bike and asking stoopid questions.


Waaaaaait a minute.
Anyone ever met a mufti bike copper?
The ultimate surprise!|
Do they exist :pinch:

[Pex Adams]

I'm pissed... I hear all these stories about warnings for this, that, and the other sort of crap. All you pricks should feel bloody lucky for receiving them, regardless of what it is.
I've been pull over 3 times for speeding (nothing over 15km over to speed limit), in nearly 20 years and been fined every time. I've always been polite, and simply answered the questions given. Not only that, I even worked (contracted) for the police for 2 years.
I suppose that's what you get for been honest, and doing the right thing.