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banditrider
17th August 2008, 16:17
This ride is intended as a “warm up” for the Grand Challenge in October. As such the aim is to cover approximately 984km in a day. This is not a tour or a race so there’s no unnecessary stops or excessive speeding – 13-14 hours with stops should be achievable without going silly. Start time is 8am at BP Rangitikei so be there earlier for gas or if you need caffeine. The route map is available here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Palmerston+North,+Manawatu-Wanganui,+New+Zealand&daddr=Cheltenham+Hunterville+Rd+%40-40.087570,+175.637440+to:Ongo+Rd+%40-39.924600,+175.559970+to:Mangahoe+Rd+%40-39.909480,+175.503800+to:Kauangaroa+Rd+%40-39.961809,+175.213948+to:Harrison+Rd+%40-39.962431,+175.213700+to:Matarawa+Valley+Rd+%40-39.941630,+175.156900+to:SH+4+%40-39.777854,+175.314690+to:National+Park,+Manawatu-Wanganui,+New+Zealand+to:SH+1+%40-38.887300,+175.953220+to:Te+Kuiti+to:Totoro+Rd+%40-38.553360,+174.978030+to:Mangapara+Rd+%40-38.853784,+174.984877+to:Turangi,+Waikato,+New+Zea land+to:Rangiwahia+Rd+%40-39.903220,+175.895200+to:Colyton+Rd+%40-40.255954,+175.697679+to:Saddle+Rd+%40-40.316070,+175.848920+to:-40.396372,175.783997+to:Palmerston+North,+Manawatu-Wanganui,+New+Zealand&hl=en&geocode=5877639551363491309,-40.087570,175.637440%3B17162497136998431576,-39.924600,175.559970%3B17935232719415029206,-39.909480,175.503800%3B8363083955957288589,-39.961809,175.213948%3B2428039930688389900,-39.962431,175.213700%3B16340901243555674656,-39.941630,175.156900%3B527173394423770186,-39.777854,175.314690%3B14983719318493426115,-38.887300,175.953220%3B12375208015988503690,-38.553360,174.978030%3B7426975487058216953,-38.853784,174.984877%3B14160477377713315735,-39.903220,175.895200%3B3163553023326109401,-40.255954,175.697679%3B8677869629783454733,-40.316070,175.848920%3B14431754183232125895,-40.337910,175.821020&mra=dme&mrcr=3&mrsp=17&sz=13&via=1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,11,12,14,15,16,17&sll=-40.377675,175.784168&sspn=0.09677,0.138016&ie=UTF8&ll=-39.325799,175.693359&spn=3.144326,4.416504&z=8).

Stops are as per the map:


<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Palmy – National Park, 249km. Gas & slash and back on the road.
<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->National Park to Te Kuiti, 231km. Late lunch.
<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Te Kuiti to Turangi, 256km. Gas & slash. Maybe a coffee everyone’s been behaving themselves.
<!--[endif]-->Turangi to Palmy, 247km. Greasy takeaways in town anyone?

Things to know:


<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->Not a race, don’t come if you intend to end up in a ditch – we’ll leave ya there!
<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->There is no support vehicle so stay out of the ditches (see above) and have a reliable bike.
<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->The biggest distance between stops is 256km according to Google Maps. Who know how accurate this is? Don’t come if your bike won’t do 280km+ on a tank at a good cruise. There is only 3 petrol stops...
<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->If you haven’t attempted something like this before then maybe this isn’t one for you – some of the roads are going to require a bit of concentration even after the 900km mark.
<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->If you get tired then stop, let us know, find somewhere to sleep, then go home when you’re fresh again – remember: no crashing!
<!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[endif]-->If the weather looks totally crap on the 12/9 then we may put the ride off to the 14<sup>th</sup>.

<!--[if !supportLists]-->If all that crap hasn’t put you off then stick your name down on the calendar event here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=1696&day=2008-9-13)and we’ll see you at the BP on Rangitikei Street at 7:45am on the 13<sup>th</sup> of September.<!--[endif]-->

blacksheep
17th August 2008, 16:34
bike won,t do 280 kms on a tank,couldn,t afford at the moment anyways:bye:

Blue Bandito
17th August 2008, 16:34
Ok, I'll come, just so you don't have to go by yourself

yod
17th August 2008, 17:22
hmmmm.....

cowboyz
17th August 2008, 18:00
nice. will see how the finances work out and what my position on the 4 points is. Sounds like a good run.

Meanie
17th August 2008, 18:35
hmmmm.....

Ditto hmmmmm

banditrider
17th August 2008, 19:37
Enough of this hmmmmmmming, is you in or is you out?

yod
17th August 2008, 19:51
too early to tell yet mate.....hmmmmm

Meanie
17th August 2008, 19:56
Enough of this hmmmmmmming, is you in or is you out?

Oh all right then, Ill come, just to add a bit of colour

cowboyz
17th August 2008, 21:06
can we stop every 80k or so for a smoke?

sinfull
18th August 2008, 16:19
Lol you leaving this open for the for the big tank tourers only BR ?

yod
18th August 2008, 16:22
can we stop every 80k or so for a smoke?

nope

you'll just have to have three at each stop to keep you going

cowboyz
18th August 2008, 16:25
good o.


hey BR. do you use mapsource mapping? have you got a *.gdb file you coud email me of the route?

banditrider
18th August 2008, 17:24
Lol you leaving this open for the for the big tank tourers only BR ?

We want to use it for a practice for the GC so we're riding it like that. In the GC we try to ride non-stop for a full tank (unless we have to pick where the gas stations are) which is 300km+ plus. This won't be the last one of these we do so maybe we'll have one where the gas stops are a bit closer together. This time around we want to be on the bike 99% of the time.


can we stop every 80k or so for a smoke?

Get an open-faced helmet!


good o.

hey BR. do you use mapsource mapping? have you got a *.gdb file you coud email me of the route?


Nah, google maps. Would a Google earth file be useful?

cowboyz
18th August 2008, 17:32
We want to use it for a practice for the GC so we're riding it like that. In the GC we try to ride non-stop for a full tank (unless we have to pick where the gas stations are) which is 300km+ plus. This won't be the last one of these we do so maybe we'll have one where the gas stops are a bit closer together. This time around we want to be on the bike 99% of the time.

sounds like a plan

Get an open-faced helmet!

your a hard lad.


Nah, google maps. Would a Google earth file be useful?


might be able to do something with google earth file. can you email one to me at lance.broyden@xtra.co.nz?

banditrider
18th August 2008, 17:34
might be able to do something with google earth file. can you email one to me at lance.broyden@xtra.co.nz?

In ya inbox now...playing with ya GPS eh?

cowboyz
18th August 2008, 17:50
would hate to get lost

yod
18th August 2008, 17:51
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to cowboyz again.

lol

banditrider
18th August 2008, 17:54
would hate to get lost

Ah good, at least someone will know where we're going...

cowboyz
18th August 2008, 18:05
dont speak too soon. havent got mapsource to accept the google files yet

yod
18th August 2008, 18:12
just follow the blue bike

cowboyz
18th August 2008, 18:13
nope. when I convert them they come out weird. just points all over the place iwth a distance of about 30km (are you sure this isnt a manawatu ride?)

yod
18th August 2008, 18:15
nope. when I convert them they come out weird. just points all over the place iwth a distance of about 30km (are you sure this isnt a manawatu ride?)

:rofl:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to cowboyz again.

cowboyz
18th August 2008, 18:25
just follow the blue bike

i thought it was sapphire?

banditrider
18th August 2008, 18:26
dont speak too soon. havent got mapsource to accept the google files yet

I couldn't get Google Maps to accept Google Earth files...Hang 5 I'll have another play in Google Earth - I mucked with it so it wouldn't display all the directions - maybe that's stuffed it...

yod
18th August 2008, 18:33
i thought it was sapphire?

it is

didn't wanna confuse you country bumpkins with big words


like "Audio Out"

banditrider
18th August 2008, 18:35
i thought it was sapphire?

I thought he was talking about Mark's Bandit...

Meanie
18th August 2008, 18:36
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to cowboyz again.

lol

Got it covered, that was blardy priceless

Horse
18th August 2008, 19:02
i thought it was sapphire?

As I've mentioned before, if you look at it in direct sunlight the two "tones" are blue.... and purple!

Not that there's anything wrong with that..... :)

banditrider
18th August 2008, 19:06
Directions in type as Cowboyz has gotten himself lost in Rangitikei Street:
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The easy bit: Palmy-Colyton-Cheltenham-Vinegar Hill-Hunterville
Hunterville-Fordell via backroads (dunno what they’re called but actually know the way)
Fordell-Wanganui-National Park
National Park-Turangi (47)
Turangi-Taupo
Taupo-Whakamaru (Poihipi road then 32)
Whakamaru-Te Kuiti (30)
South on 3 from Te Kuiti, turn left at Totora Rd to Aria and then on Ohura Road
Left off Ohura road onto Mokauiti road
Through Mokauiti and onto Ramaroa Road to Highway 4
Right onto 4 and then right again onto Ohura Road again all the way to Ohura
Leave Ohura via Mangaparo Road and then right onto 43 to Tamarunnui
41 to Turangi and then 1 to Mangaweka
Rangiwahia-Cheltenham-Colyton-Ashhurst-Woodville (via saddle)
Woodville-Balance-track and home.

Been through all the Ohura stuff before on a GC or 2 so know the roads are ok. We will need to look out for some of the turn-offs though. Also, they are all typical back-roads: narrow, windy, stock etc.

cowboyz
18th August 2008, 19:12
ok. got the file sorted. will email it to meanie to use on the zumo so at least 3 of us will know where we are going.


I just finished the complete map at 1040km.

banditrider
18th August 2008, 19:18
ok. got the file sorted. will email it to meanie to use on the zumo so at least 3 of us will know where we are going.

I just finished the complete map at 1040km.


Ah bugger, can't trust Google Maps eh? May as well sort out another 560km to finish things off properly...

cowboyz
18th August 2008, 19:33
I definitely gonna need a smoke stop.

yod
18th August 2008, 19:33
seeing the doc on wednesday...hopefully he'll have some good news as far as the knee goes, fingers crossed

ynot slow
18th August 2008, 20:19
seeing the doc on wednesday...hopefully he'll have some good news as far as the knee goes, fingers crossed

Good luck,knees are lovely things until they break or dislocate.Mate had an off in '86 at 70-80km,no cartilage around knee now,was only 22 at time,quack wanted to replace knee but the guy was too young as they needed replacing approx every 15yrs or so.

banditrider
19th August 2008, 20:54
Brian (mate with the Connie) came through Tamarunui & the Paras yesterday (in a car) and said that the Paras in particular had taken a bit of a hammering in the recent weather. I'm picking that the back roads around Aria, Ohura etc could all have had the same sort of treatment. Possibly even around Rangi as well (might have to do a recce on the Honda...).

This isn't gonna change the route or anything - just a warning to all that we're gonna have to be aware of this sort of thing. Adds to the fun and all that.

Don't wash ya bike before the ride...

cowboyz
19th August 2008, 21:09
ok then. I was going to wash it but now being as you say so.................

banditrider
19th August 2008, 21:17
ok then. I was going to wash it but now being as you say so.................

Wow! You shoulda seen the last sentence of that last post of mine - before I deleted it...

What colour's your bike again?

Meanie
19th August 2008, 21:21
ok then. I was going to wash it but now being as you say so.................

Now theres a good Tui slogan

Twosup
20th August 2008, 19:12
Thanks for reply Andrew, all signed up Mmmmm!
Save your loose change our Captial 1000k Cruise 8th November 6.45am Caltex Rimutaka is on again.:2thumbsup
Regards
Steve & John

banditrider
20th August 2008, 19:41
Thanks for reply Andrew, all signed up Mmmmm!
Save your loose change our Captial 1000k Cruise 8th November 6.45am Caltex Rimutaka is on again.:2thumbsup
Regards
Steve & John

Sweet, seeya there. Looks like another early start in November...

KoroJ
24th August 2008, 20:27
This only looks like a one-stop ride?....and since when has a ride like this taken you 13 hours??? (I've tried to keep up you before and I don't think you know what a 13 hour pace is)

banditrider
24th August 2008, 20:32
This only looks like a one-stop ride?....and since when has a ride like this taken you 13 hours??? (I've tried to keep up you before and I don't think you know what a 13 hour pace is)

Says he who did 2100km in about an hour more than it took me to do 1600...:msn-wink:

You in?

KoroJ
24th August 2008, 20:39
Says he who did 2100km in about an hour more than it took me to do 1600...:msn-wink:

You in?

Still not sure. I'm under the thumb!!

Had an interesting wee pootle yesterday through some interesting Taranaki back roads though. (That's because I managed to carry the big-thumb on the back).

banditrider
24th August 2008, 20:44
Still not sure. I'm under the thumb!!

Still plenty of time - talk nicely to the thumb.

yod
24th August 2008, 21:52
Still not sure. I'm under the thumb!!
(That's because I managed to carry the big-thumb on the back).
you too huh

talk nicely to the thumb.
you are truly wiser than you look my young padawan

Highlander
26th August 2008, 23:12
Still plenty of time - talk nicely to the thumb.

As opposed to "TALK TO THE HAND"? :argue:


Looks like a pleasant day out.

banditrider
27th August 2008, 17:31
As opposed to "TALK TO THE HAND"? :argue:

Looks like a pleasant day out.

Come on down...

Hinny
1st September 2008, 14:38
I definitely gonna need a smoke stop.

You definitely gonna need a stop smoke ing.

banditrider
1st September 2008, 19:47
You definitely gonna need a stop smoke ing.

He's quitting that day...

banditrider
9th September 2008, 19:46
sunday's looking a bit better at this stage but meh....doesn't look like i'll get there anyway:crybaby:

Re: the weather. Will take a look at it on Friday nite and make the final decision on Saturday or Sunday. My preference is definitely for Saturday and would put up with a little rain as a result. Sunday's for a sleep in and cleaning the bike.

cowboyz
9th September 2008, 19:58
and cleaning the bike.

I do not understand this concept. please explain.

yod
9th September 2008, 19:59
it's not easy, being green

Meanie
9th September 2008, 20:00
I do not understand this concept. please explain.

Just ride it through a car wash
Monie rekons she is going to one day, Ill sell tickets

banditrider
9th September 2008, 20:01
If you looked at my Kwaka at the moment you'd think I didn't too - still filthy from the Taupo loop however many moons ago. Been busy neglecting her and riding the red bike.

I'm not saying that I'm definitely cleaning the bike on Sunday but I could at least think about it while I do not much of anything else...

1 Free Man
9th September 2008, 20:11
Dumb Question:doh:
Why the ferk would ya want to be doing 900-1000k's in one day anyhow.
Sounds to me like a go like fuck hell for leather run.
What is the object of this exercise?? sight seeing is out if the qustion I take it??
Struggling to understand?
If I was a real biker I would get it YES/NO??:rolleyes:

yod
9th September 2008, 20:14
it's got nothing to do with being a 'real biker'

some people enjoy it, some people don't

banditrider
9th September 2008, 20:21
Dumb Question:doh:
Why the ferk would ya want to be doing 900-1000k's in one day anyhow.
Sounds to me like a go like fuck hell for leather run.
What is the object of this exercise?? sight seeing is out if the qustion I take it??
Struggling to understand?
If I was a real biker I would get it YES/NO??:rolleyes:

Why do some people run marathons or climb mountains? Same sort of thing really. It's not a race at all - it's a bit of a practice for the Grand Challenge in October. That's 1,000 miles in 24 hours and you do not have to race to complete that either. It's about taking on a bit of a challenge and the pleasure you get out of succeeding - and to top it all off it involves bikes!

Nothing to do with being a real biker either. If it's not ya cup of tea it's not ya cup of tea. I hate tea but am addicted to these sorts of rides.

Give it a crack one day - you might get hooked! Ride safe!

1 Free Man
9th September 2008, 21:43
Why do some people run marathons or climb mountains? Same sort of thing really. It's not a race at all - it's a bit of a practice for the Grand Challenge in October. That's 1,000 miles in 24 hours and you do not have to race to complete that either. It's about taking on a bit of a challenge and the pleasure you get out of succeeding - and to top it all off it involves bikes!

Nothing to do with being a real biker either. If it's not ya cup of tea it's not ya cup of tea. I hate tea but am addicted to these sorts of rides.

Give it a crack one day - you might get hooked! Ride safe!
Thankyou getting a handle on it now:niceone:

banditrider
9th September 2008, 21:47
Thankyou getting a handle on it now:niceone:

No worries. Checkout the Rusty's website: http://www.silver-bullet.co.nz/RUSTYNUTS/

banditrider
12th September 2008, 17:35
We're down to 4 now as the Blue Bandito is a sick puppy (in more ways than one). I'm still keen so as long as everyone else is, the ride is still on for tomorrow.

Popping out for a while but will check back later on tonight.

NZsarge
12th September 2008, 17:38
We're down to 4 now as the Blue Bandito is a sick puppy (in more ways than one). I'm still keen so as long as everyone else is, the ride is still on for tomorrow.

Popping out for a while but will check back later on tonight.

Have a good one mate.

banditrider
12th September 2008, 17:45
Have a good one mate.

Cheers dude - not to late to join us. In fact, my old man has just rung and he and a mate are going to come through from Napier early in the morning. They will not be doing the full run so if you or anyone else wants to tag along for the first 4-500km that's fine.

Leaving BP Rangatiki at 8am sharp.

NZsarge
12th September 2008, 17:46
Don't wash ya bike before the ride...


ok then. I was going to wash it but now being as you say so.................

:lol: :laugh: :killingme :lol: :laugh: :killingme

NZsarge
12th September 2008, 17:51
Cheers dude - not to late to join us. In fact, my old man has just rung and he and a mate are going to come through from Napier early in the morning. They will not be doing the full run so if you or anyone else wants to tag along for the first 4-500km that's fine.

Leaving BP Rangatiki at 8am sharp.

Yeah cheers but nah, there is a couple of roads that I would'nt mind checking out to see what they are like with a view to include them in a future ride.
Been meaning to check em out for ages now but i've always been too busy riding/driving somewhere.
I might check them out at some point this weekend.

yod
12th September 2008, 19:47
:weep:

enjoy the riding, wherever it may be...

:weep:

spare a thought for yod...

:weep:

Meanie
12th September 2008, 20:19
Sorry guys i,m gonna have to pull out. Monie was rather ill last night and she still hasnt come right so i,m gonna have to stay home and look after the spawn
Have a safe one

cowboyz
12th September 2008, 21:32
yep, I am out too. I have a project that needs attention.

banditrider
12th September 2008, 21:49
Sorry guys i,m gonna have to pull out. Monie was rather ill last night and she still hasnt come right so i,m gonna have to stay home and look after the spawn
Have a safe one


yep, I am out too. I have a project that needs attention.

Gonna be quite a bunch of us then...never mind there's always a next time.

cowboyz
12th September 2008, 21:59
real shame cause been looking forward to doing a long run with you for a long time. Timing kinda sucks right now. Promise to get one in before end of summer.

yod
13th September 2008, 18:58
where's the report?

banditrider
13th September 2008, 20:04
Soon...not quite the pootle I had planned but...

Pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/andrew.l.thomson/130908AWeePootle#

banditrider
13th September 2008, 20:38
The Good and the Bad: http://banditrider.blogspot.com/2008/09/wee-pootle.html

cowboyz
13th September 2008, 20:57
what did you get nabbed at?

banditrider
13th September 2008, 21:02
Not quite enough to be walkin. Could have done without it.

chanceyy
13th September 2008, 21:04
Ahh bugger .. you get caught at the rear .. cowboyz gets pinged out front .. so somewhere in between you too is the place to ride huh :laugh:

yod
13th September 2008, 21:15
arse

at least you had a good day out

banditrider
13th September 2008, 21:19
Will re-run the ride again at some stage seeing that we didn't stick to the planned route. Probably in the new year - a lot of riding on in the next wee while...

cowboyz
13th September 2008, 22:01
be looking forward to it.

Horse
13th September 2008, 22:04
Not quite enough to be walkin. Could have done without it.

Bugger! :(

NZsarge
13th September 2008, 22:08
Opps, sounds expensive mate, where did ya get pinged?

86GSXR
13th September 2008, 22:17
Shite! Sorry to hear that. Well, there is a brightside, you're still riding. Bummer though.

banditrider
14th September 2008, 15:58
Opps, sounds expensive mate, where did ya get pinged?

Napier-Taupo, not long off the plains. Mufti commodore.

Meanie
14th September 2008, 19:24
That sucks, how many demerits did you get

yod
14th September 2008, 22:15
35 is the norm

i thought they were reducing fines considerably and increasing demerits considerably

not sure when it's supposed to happen though

yod
14th September 2008, 22:26
just found this:

Exceeding the speed limit by up to 10 km/h 10points
Exceeding the speed limit by 11-20 km/h 20points
Exceeding the speed limit by 21-30 km/h 35points
Exceeding the speed limit by 31-35 km/h 40points
Exceeding the speed limit by 36 km/h or more 50points

cowboyz
14th September 2008, 22:54
think of the children!!!!!!!!!

ynot slow
15th September 2008, 12:31
think of the children!!!!!!!!!

The bloody wallet.Still 2 months to pay,never met anyone who paid within the 28 days on the written invoice,I always waited till the printed invoice arrived,the month after.

banditrider
15th September 2008, 17:35
just found this:

Exceeding the speed limit by up to 10 km/h 10points
Exceeding the speed limit by 11-20 km/h 20points
Exceeding the speed limit by 21-30 km/h 35points
Exceeding the speed limit by 31-35 km/h 40points
Exceeding the speed limit by 36 km/h or more 50points

At least I wasn't in that last group.


think of the children!!!!!!!!!

They'll be lucky if they're allowed bikes.


The bloody wallet.Still 2 months to pay,never met anyone who paid within the 28 days on the written invoice,I always waited till the printed invoice arrived,the month after.

Have heard that the demerits go on as soon as you complete the transaction so sooner ya pay the sooner the points are gone. Not sure how accurate that is but could be worth it. Off to see the bank manager tomorrow...

KiwiKat
15th September 2008, 17:56
Have heard that the demerits go on as soon as you complete the transaction so sooner ya pay the sooner the points are gone. Not sure how accurate that is but could be worth it. Off to see the bank manager tomorrow...

The date you pay the fine may have little relevance to you.

The important date is the date of offence. The points remain active for a 2 year period from the date of offence. They are cancelled when a licence holder is disqualified for a period of 6 months or more, or when a licence holder is suspended for demerit points. If a licence holder accumluates 100 or more points within a 2 year period then the points all remain active until the last offence that took the total 2 100 is older than 2 years. Section 88 - 92 of the Landtransport Act 1998 might be worth a look at.

banditrider
16th December 2008, 17:30
Will re-run the ride again at some stage seeing that we didn't stick to the planned route. Probably in the new year - a lot of riding on in the next wee while...

Thinking about this again. Maybe Feb sometime - anyone else keen?

cowboyz
16th December 2008, 21:39
Im in. sounds like an awesome day out. missed the last one.

KiwiKat
16th December 2008, 21:49
Tempted - End of January maybe?

Horse
16th December 2008, 21:53
Definitely interested.

banditrider
17th December 2008, 16:56
Dang, now I have to get organised...

Meanie
17th December 2008, 17:02
Yea i could be a starter

cowboyz
17th December 2008, 21:51
Yea i could be a starter

and a finisher I would expect!

banditrider
18th December 2008, 17:04
and a finisher I would expect!

That's rule number 1. Everyone must finish - no offs tolerated!