View Full Version : Snap election poll
Big Dan
27th August 2008, 19:02
I know this was done a while back so bear with me
Now about 2 months out from the Election at this moment in time how would you vote
Rockbuddy
27th August 2008, 19:08
time for change
MIXONE
27th August 2008, 19:11
I'd vote National with their "hidden agenda"
Anybody that thinks any party tells the truth is naive/brain dead/Winston Peters' wife!
Mully
27th August 2008, 19:20
Heh, here we go again.
*waits for the looney parade to arrive*
Oakie
27th August 2008, 19:29
Not that I'd go there but I think you missed a party. How could you forget the party of the indigenous people of Aotearoa?
Motu
27th August 2008, 19:30
Where is the ''other'' option? I don't vote mainstream parties.
Mikkel
27th August 2008, 19:35
Where's the blank option that signifies that you don't believe any of the parties can do the job properly?
Where's the not to vote option that signifies a lack of faith in the democratic process?
Where's the coup d'etat option...?
:)
Big Dan
27th August 2008, 19:41
i didn't do a blank option for a reason if i done that then there would be 100% people voting that option
Robert Taylor
27th August 2008, 20:03
i didn't do a blank option for a reason if i done that then there would be 100% people voting that option
Its quite often a case of ''lesser of the evils''. Positive result thus far evidenced....
MisterD
27th August 2008, 20:04
Wait, there's no Jim Anderton party option...oh yeah, like that's not Liarbore under another name.
Woo-hoo! That's me, the ACT voter. Go Rodney:soon:
Steam
27th August 2008, 20:06
Bikers, so conservative.
MisterD
27th August 2008, 20:08
I prefer Liberal thanks Steam...no sorry, make that reactionary redneck.
James Deuce
27th August 2008, 20:09
Hey! hang on a minute.
You have two votes.
You most assuredly should NOT be using both of them on the same party.
You have an opportunity to change things if you can get your head around that VERY simple concept.
Motu
27th August 2008, 20:26
Bikers, so conservative.
Sad isn't it? Once upon a time being a biker set you apart from the herd,out of convention and a free thinker.It was something you wore with pride.....you looked down on men in suits.
jafar
27th August 2008, 20:27
Hey! hang on a minute.
You have two votes.
You most assuredly should NOT be using both of them on the same party.
You have an opportunity to change things if you can get your head around that VERY simple concept.
As you have 2 votes surely you should be able to use both votes on the same party to give it the boost you feel it deserves.
Splitting your vote only dilutes the message :rolleyes:
MisterD
27th August 2008, 20:37
Hey! hang on a minute.
You have two votes.
You most assuredly should NOT be using both of them on the same party.
You have an opportunity to change things if you can get your head around that VERY simple concept.
Depends doesn't it? You'd be stupid if you were an ACT voter in Epsom doing anything other than voting yellow x2
MadDuck
27th August 2008, 20:48
*waits for the looney parade to arrive*
Ahem...you called :wacko:
Mom
27th August 2008, 21:02
Where's the not to vote option that signifies a lack of faith in the democratic process?
Tick all the boxes...be an informal voter...:yes:
You have an opportunity to change things if you can get your head around that VERY simple concept.
I am simple, so I should be sweeet as! Can I say I hate MMP as a voting option?
As you have 2 votes surely you should be able to use both votes on the same party to give it the boost you feel it deserves.
Splitting your vote only dilutes the message :rolleyes:
I think if everyone really understood how the system works presently, things would change. I have a sitting National MP in a National stronghold as my MP. My vote would never change the status quo, if I voted for or against him. He is my electorate representative reality no matter what.
MMP dictates the party vote is the core of government. Party vote for Government, Electorate vote for MP. Pain in the arse..dumbest system ever!
They obviously missed my vote at referendum time...LOL
Magua
27th August 2008, 21:04
Haven't decided/none of the above.
James Deuce
27th August 2008, 21:16
As you have 2 votes surely you should be able to use both votes on the same party to give it the boost you feel it deserves.
Splitting your vote only dilutes the message :rolleyes:
No, no, no!
You're not splitting your vote.
NZers aren't involved in the machines that run the political parties anywhere as much as they need to be. Most European countries have this thing called voting blocs. Many parties will trade votes from their own members away to other parties to ensure that the subsequent coalition Govt has the capacity to rule as a majority and to ensure that Govts made up from the same part of the Political spectrum have a broader depth of commitment to their voters.
Splitting your Vote would be an electorate vote for a Labour candidate and a list vote for National. They're never going to be coalition partners.
Sharpen up folks, you have an opportunity coming up.
James Deuce
27th August 2008, 21:25
MMP dictates the party vote is the core of government. Party vote for Government, Electorate vote for MP. Pain in the arse..dumbest system ever!
They obviously missed my vote at referendum time...LOL
Come on, you're better than that. That's the problem with NZers in general. They've never had their lives whipped out from under them, so they don't value the opportunity MMP gives them. Why do you think proportional systems are favoured in European countries?
FPP just creates electoral corruption in the form of gerrymandering and given Auckland's continued growth an incumbent Government can very easily win more seats with less votes, much like National did for a big chunk of the 20th Century. Farmers used to rule this country with ease, effectively creating a situation where our biggest city is slowly strangling on its own lack of infrastructure.
Everyone seems happy to blame the "Gubbmint" for Auckland's woes, but the underlying factors that created it have long been forgotten. Urban centres were under represented for most of the 20th Century and so didn't get the resources or development planning resources they needed.
Instead of bleating about the current voting system (I prefer Australia's preferential voting system btw) it can be used very much in our favour, IF we chose to.
James Deuce
27th August 2008, 21:28
Depends doesn't it? You'd be stupid if you were an ACT voter in Epsom doing anything other than voting yellow x2
You'd be incredibly stupid to do that, because that won't get Rodney into parliament twice, will it?
Come on, THINK! ACT is a minority party, always will be, especially with Roger back in the fold at number 3. Your best bet is to vote Rodney in as Electorate MP and give your list to National. ACT & National as a Coalition is pretty much any ACT voter's wet dream.
Mom
27th August 2008, 21:33
Instead of bleating about the current voting system (I prefer Australia's preferential voting system btw) it can be used very much in our favour, IF we chose to.
I am not an MMP fan, never voted for it, but...FPP was a joke and had to go, I am a STV (preferential vote system) supporter. MMP will only effect change when the voting public actually "think".
I vote, I feel able to bleat :yes:
Jantar
27th August 2008, 22:10
You'd be incredibly stupid to do that, because that won't get Rodney into parliament twice, will it?
Come on, THINK! ACT is a minority party, always will be, especially with Roger back in the fold at number 3. Your best bet is to vote Rodney in as Electorate MP and give your list to National. ACT & National as a Coalition is pretty much any ACT voter's wet dream.
Similarly, I'm in a strong National electorate, so Electorate vote to National - party vote ACT. :niceone:
Big Dan
27th August 2008, 23:15
its interesting that in this little poll that as of now NZfirst has 5.45% of the vote which would see Peters still in a job
Also sees nats with 60% and enough to govenern on there own
Indiana_Jones
28th August 2008, 07:22
Similarly, I'm in a strong National electorate, so Electorate vote to National - party vote ACT. :niceone:
I'm considering that action too
-Indy
RiderInBlack
28th August 2008, 07:59
Sorry too many things I don't trust Nat with:
Poss sale of Kiwi Bank
Borrowing for tax cuts
Encouraging Coal and Hydrocarbon Powered Power producation, instead of encouraging cleaner Power producation.
Work for DPB
Toll roads
Just for starts.
So sorry but my vote is staying Labour. To bad they have had to do business with NZFirst, but I'm sure Winy will be Histroy by next election.
MisterD
28th August 2008, 09:06
You'd be incredibly stupid to do that, because that won't get Rodney into parliament twice, will it?
Come on, THINK! ACT is a minority party, always will be, especially with Roger back in the fold at number 3. Your best bet is to vote Rodney in as Electorate MP and give your list to National. ACT & National as a Coalition is pretty much any ACT voter's wet dream.
Come on James, facts are that the party vote determines the representation in Parliament if over 5% (not looking likely yet) or if you win an electorate. So if you're an ACT supporter in Rodders' patch and you want to maximise ACT representation you have to vote electorate to ensure your party vote counts. Simple.
MSTRS
28th August 2008, 09:09
Everyone seems happy to blame the "Gubbmint" for Auckland's woes, but the underlying factors that created it have long been forgotten. Urban centres were under represented for most of the 20th Century and so didn't get the resources or development planning resources they needed.
Not sure that I agree with you there, Jim...
Auckland simply continues to grow faster than any of the 'powers-that-be' could and can imagine or plan for.
Of course, everyone knows that rural NZ is the envy of the Western world in terms of roading, power/gas/telecommunication infrastructure. :Pokey:
Nasty
28th August 2008, 09:24
Where's the not to vote option that signifies a lack of faith in the democratic process?
If you choose not to vote, that is a choice for you, do not complain .. you have no right to diss where the country heads if your rights are not exercised. You may not agree with any of the parties, but as in the rest of life there is a level of compromise expected.
Headbanger
28th August 2008, 09:37
If you choose not to vote, that is a choice for you, do not complain .. .
People with that opinion should keep in mind that's just there opinion.
If others want to abstain from voting to show there lack of faith in the system and then choose to rock the boat as hard afterwards are perfectly within their rights.
You can't govern peoples actions people because they refused to play by the rules you put forward.
Trudes
28th August 2008, 09:56
"Don't vote, it only encourages them"
not that I believe in that, the buggers will do it anyway
Swoop
28th August 2008, 12:27
... and you want to maximise ACT representation you have to vote electorate to ensure your party vote counts. Simple.
You are forgetting the bonus prize!!!
Doing that will drive IdiotIdiotIdiot insane with rage...:rockon:
MSTRS
28th August 2008, 12:37
You are forgetting the bonus prize!!!
Party AND electorate vote for Act wins you a toaster grill?
Swoop
28th August 2008, 12:38
Party AND electorate vote for Act wins you a toaster grill?
Just III a heart attack...
MSTRS
28th August 2008, 12:39
Just III a heart attack...
Oh, you mean the big prize? I would have been happy with that toaster grill.
Sanx
28th August 2008, 16:40
OK - who the fuck ticked the tree-hugging, pot-smoking, politically-correct, petrol-hating, stuck-in-the-dark-ages, quasi-communist party?
Surely no self-respecting biker could ever vote for Bulldog Bradford and her greenie coven.
puddytat
28th August 2008, 17:45
Wot about the Mowiewowie party man!!:doobey:
puddytat
28th August 2008, 17:49
OK - who the fuck ticked the tree-hugging, pot-smoking, politically-correct, petrol-hating, stuck-in-the-dark-ages, quasi-communist party?
Surely no self-respecting biker could ever vote for Bulldog Bradford and her greenie coven.
Probably the few people who have seen the light....:whistle:
Jerry74
28th August 2008, 18:07
Umm is it worth voting hahaha
National time for a change
alanzs
28th August 2008, 18:13
I vote for Miguel Ratone. He's the most qualified of any candidate.
alanzs
28th August 2008, 18:17
Surely no self-respecting biker could ever vote for Bulldog Bradford and her greenie coven.
I thought her name was Sue "Spank Me Harder" Bradford, or is there another one with a similar name?
If everyone had self respect, where would we get all the strippers and hookers we need? :shit:
Shadows
28th August 2008, 22:20
Hey! hang on a minute.
You have two votes.
You most assuredly should NOT be using both of them on the same party.
You have an opportunity to change things if you can get your head around that VERY simple concept.
That concept is only valid if the electorate you vote in leans in the direction you want. For instance, somebody in South Auckland or Porirua who supports National would be better running around with a machine gun working to improve the overall IQ of the area than spending time thinking about an electorate vote.
SPman
29th August 2008, 14:49
OK - who the fuck ticked the tree-hugging, pot-smoking, politically-correct, petrol-hating, stuck-in-the-dark-ages, quasi-communist party?
Surely no self-respecting biker could ever vote for Bulldog Bradford and her greenie coven.
Bikers......
Conservatives R US.......
Oh how times have changed...............
Wheres the Maori Party option - seriously!
I always carefully consider my electorate and party vote.....the two are seldom the same!
Murray
29th August 2008, 14:57
I vote that Rodney Hyde shouldn't be allowed to appear on TV programmes like Dancing with the Stars.
jrandom
29th August 2008, 14:57
Now about 2 months out from the Election at this moment in time how would you vote
You left out half the parties in the election, you drivelling nincompoop. Google is your friend (http://www.elections.org.nz/maori/parties/registered-political-parties.html). Or perhaps Google is only the friend of those with IQs larger than their shoe size.
Anyway, no prizes for guessing who's getting my party vote.
Chris Carter's never going to lose his electorate, so it doesn't really matter what I do in that respect.
Naki Rat
29th August 2008, 15:21
Don't vote, it only encourages them :argh:
The good news is that our limp-dick local MP Harry Duynhoven, instigator of road 'safety' acts (aka more gimme gimme taxes) and yet another MP from one of the major parties that just spread their cheeks rather than vote with their conscience on the anti-smacking bill looks like being dog tucker in the marginal seat of New Plymouth.
Who to vote for....? That's a hell of a lot harder to answer than who not to vote for :angry2: Perhaps Rodney of the yellow jacket may have the edge :confused:
Come back MacGillicutty Serious, all is forgiven :niceone:
RiderInBlack
29th August 2008, 15:50
Come back MacGillicutty Serious, all is forgiven :niceone::devil2: Vote for them one FPP election cause I was soo pissed off with Nat and Lab. New it would make no difference as Whangarei was hard-up Nats' arse that my vote didn't count. Then MMP (wanted the STV system, but hey) came , so now my vote makes a difference. MacGillcutty dropped out after MMP cause there was too good a chance they would have a few seats in the Beehive.
By the way as much as the small parties are are pain it the arse, I would not go back to FPP. If it's FPP or MMP, I'd stay with MMP. But if they went for STV then I'd drop MMP. Maybe they should raise the threshold ta 10% of the vote for MMP.
Big Dan
30th August 2008, 08:14
:devil2: Vote for them one FPP election cause I was soo pissed off with Nat and Lab. New it would make no difference as Whangarei was hard-up Nats' arse that my vote didn't count. Then MMP (wanted the STV system, but hey) came , so now my vote makes a difference. MacGillcutty dropped out after MMP cause there was too good a chance they would have a few seats in the Beehive.
By the way as much as the small parties are are pain it the arse, I would not go back to FPP. If it's FPP or MMP, I'd stay with MMP. But if they went for STV then I'd drop MMP. Maybe they should raise the threshold ta 10% of the vote for MMP.
By STV you mean Sexually Transmitted Virus (that is our gubbermint ) right?
Swoop
30th August 2008, 19:30
I vote that Rodney Hyde shouldn't be allowed to appear on TV programmes like Dancing with the Stars.
Why?
At least he is out there "giving it a go".
What was the charity that was having funds donated to it?
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