Anyone still ride a 2 Stroke ?

[Armitage Shanks]

I'm a bit nervous, it's been a while since I attended a trail ride event but I'm on on a 2 Stroke, am I still welcome ?

Actually about 4 months and my Bike ( '04 KX500 ) has been sleeping....my question, ....how many 2 strokes are out there now compared to $ strokes and when we us 2 Strokers finally be overwhelmed ?

Look forward to being along to next ride, maybe the exception rather than the rule.......V-force and the big Gnarly

[quallman1234]

Still plently of the ol smokers.

They are becoming alive again. In Trial Riding, whilst dieing in MX

[Armitage Shanks]

Thanks Quall, my mistress is green and puts out about 60 at the wheel....she's a good girl ...ps never get married

[B0000M]

ill 2nd that theres still a good percentage of 2 smokers at trails and enduros, all though in the mx scene they are lacking. however id almost say they're more popular now than they were 3 years ago.

i still ride a 2smoker at trails and several of the other guys on here do too, i think we may even have a higher attendance of 2smoker riders here on the off road area than 4smokers

[mattwood]

yeah man, two strokes are still alive and kicking!

still heaps of big blue smoke clouds around at trail rides, haha :girlfight:

[theblacksmith]

KX 500? Enjoy mate - you will be in a class of your own. Wish I could get my hands on one!

[cr125nz]

most ppl i no have 2strokes for trail rides theres a few of us out there still flying the mud around

[CRF119]

I actualy want my 125 back as a second bike, i miss the old 2 stroke so much.

[Pierce]

Yeah I actually wondered this before I got back into riding Late last year but I was really surprised how many people still ride them. At MX practise days (harrisville and ardmore) quite often 2T's will be out numbering the 4Ts.

Defo still loads of em around. Can't beat the 2T's IMO!

KX500... did someone say monster?

[warewolf]

Cast your eye about ten threads down: 2t / 4t poll (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79157).

[jim.cox]

My Polaris quad is two stroke. Does that count?

[slimjim]

yes yes yes i ride my It and no prob's about from age of both ... lol

[chop]

Is there anything other than a two stroke????? Arnt the others powered by diesel?

[jim.cox]

Is there anything other than a two stroke????? Arnt the others powered by diesel?

A lot of diesel motors ARE two strokes

[Reckless]

Cast your eye about ten threads down: 2t / 4t poll (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=79157).

Then have a look at this thread, read the recon costs and you'll understand why!

[vr4king]

I ride one simply because thats what my budget can afford at the moment still far more bike than what i need so im happy

I say 2T's are the way to go for people wanting to participate at there own costs

[Pierce]

I ride one simply because thats what my budget can afford at the moment still far more bike than what i need so im happy

I say 2T's are the way to go for people wanting to participate at there own costs


That and personally I think they're more fun!:Punk: I ride so much quicker on my 4T but I don't have as much fun doing so. Personal preference I guess

[Armitage Shanks]

Blacksmith, it's funny how in '04 the KX500 did'nt even appear on the model line-up brochure, like they were'nt proud enough to advertise it. I only got mine cos my dealer told me there's two coming to the South Island and ...would I like one ? Of course I said yes and traded my '97 KX5 for about 3k less than I paid.......and that was gone before 11 am the next day after I dropped it off when I visited the shop to pay my $ and say sionara to the old girl, already sold and despatched.

If you got a 500...give it a kiss. They're gold. I was told the other '04 went to Timaru.

[Beeza]

My 1980 PE175 still gives me thrills.

[WeeHaggis]

2T for meee:woohoo:

[shafty]

About 10 or 15 years ago, when reading what was coming up with the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) in the good old USA, I made a mental note "Must buy me a good 2 stroke and a 44 gallon drum of oil before they are extinct".


Better start lookin I guess......................

[Taz]

I also have a 2 stroke. Have had a smattering of 2 and 4 stroke off road bikes over the years. My YZ250F (03) was the better motocrosser but my current KDX200 is a far better trail bike.

[Reckless]

I also have a 2 stroke. Have had a smattering of 2 and 4 stroke off road bikes over the years. My YZ250F (03) was the better motocrosser but my current KDX200 is a far better trail bike.


Yeh I think you have hit the nail on the head there!
When you race MX, if it costs to go faster, so what, you want to win, so you pay and you go faster. There's no doubt the 4's deliver their power smoother, the results speak for themselves, its faster.
But I still reckon between Pipe design, gearing, fly wheel weight, power valve timing, ignition timing and compression you can get a 2 smoker pretty close! Looks like we now might have electronic ignition as well! They just haven't put the effort in from the factory. Might not deliver as much top end power as what we ride now but I bet 2smokers can be made more linear like a 4T.
But, it just makes much more economic sense in revenue for the factory and the dealer network in parts and maintenance to go 4 stroke.
My 0.02c

[awayatc]

About 10 or 15 years ago, when reading what was coming up with the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) in the good old USA, I made a mental note "Must buy me a good 2 stroke and a 44 gallon drum of oil before they are extinct".


Better start lookin I guess......................

EPA from the country that brings us Hummers and Vipers............

Oh and burning oilfields....

[Armitage Shanks]

Reckless, well spoken.....

Go the four strokes and, politics aside I'm still surprised by the short-sightedness at the abruptness at cutting the 2-strokes loose. Bloody shame, even my big KX is a good T- Bike albeit with around 70 at the crank....hehe

[Reckless]

EPA from the country that brings us Hummers and Vipers............

Oh and burning oilfields....

Your right there I bet all the 2smokers put together wouldn't put out as much pollution as one bad factory!!
And whats happening now! their closing the tracks because of noise pollution!! Go Figure??

[quallman1234]

Thanks Quall, my mistress is green and puts out about 60 at the wheel....she's a good girl ...ps never get married

Fucken Ae!!! Long live the 2 strokes.

I would love to ride a KX or CR500 one day, just to feel the inital bite of torque and power. Mainly torque :sweatdrop.
I memba riding my Cousins worked YZ250 for the first time. It was bloody amazing.
The 125GP bikes have pretty decent power hits too (I race one, im lucky :))

[warewolf]

Then have a look at this thread, read the recon costs and you'll understand why!I don't understand what you mean? 2Ts rule that poll, which is pretty much the same question as this thread is asking... my point being the same question has been asked again.

Everybody knows 2Ts rules!!! :devil2:

[B0000M]

the thing that confuses me about the usa and their pollution stuff is from what i see on tv a lot of americans appear to still drive 1980's large carbed engined heap of shit cars as their daily vehicle. which id assume would pump out a fair bit of pollution, vs say a 250cc 2stroke, which ill admit smoke a bit, but its a 250cc vs a 5000cc, and most bikes on average would only get ridden 1 hour a week, whats 1 hour of 250cc going to do vs 10 hours a week of 5000cc

or the dirty factorys as pointed out.

and who even said global warming existed in the first place?

[Pierce]

Yeah and not only do they ALL drive large cars, they drive them around alone too... So you'll see twice as many cars on the road than what need to be

[warewolf]

There's a lot more to it than that. I noticed in LA that there were no smoky vehicles, there is a WOF-style emissions test. 5000cc would be a small car over there, most people seemed to use things like Ford F250s as their single-person runabout car.

Then they have rubber boots over the fuel pump nozzles to contain the fumes as you fill your tank. But it means you can't see what's happening, so many bikes overflow raw liquid fuel when the auto-stop is slow... which is worse than just letting the fumes escape. So you can buy little plastic hooks to hold the boot up so you can see.

Or the horribly lean idle condition that means you have to over-use the choke to get the bike to warm up... thus pumping out more emissions than if the idle was set at a reasonable mixture.

I guess they are trying, which counts for something, and has had an overall good effect over the years.

[Reckless]

I don't understand what you mean? 2Ts rule that poll, which is pretty much the same question as this thread is asking... my point being the same question has been asked again.

Everybody knows 2Ts rules!!! :devil2:

Sorry Mate forgot to put the damn shortcut in DUH!!

Was meant to read:
Then have a look at this thread, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=80658 read the recon costs and you'll understand why 2 strokes rule!

[secondfield]

Yep, itd be nice 2 have an 88' yz490 sittin round teasing my nuts to get out an stroll.
No denyiing that boys. :innocent:

[Armitage Shanks]

Here's a quote from my Bible ..... ( as quoted from a US Dirtbike mag ) ..." No-one can say they know all about dirtbikes till they've clicked through the gears on a KX500 with the throttle open "

Guess that applies to the big Honda as well, RIP the Cr500, feel sorry for the guys that have'nt had the chance to ride a 500 ,a bike that'll pull your arms and wheelie in any gear, far too much power is a damn good thing, don't have to use it but it's there if you want...hang on !