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bezajel
30th August 2008, 16:56
I dropped my bike again! :crybaby:
Turning out of our little street to head up into the hills where I've been practising (nothing but hills around here). Cocked up changing into second, slipped into neutral, realised why I wasn't going anywhere, got her into second and voom! stall! fallover to the left! :shit:
Wasn't hurt at all except feeling like a noob in front of WasPhantom (luckily following behind me) and some neighbour. Neil assessed the damage, determined that the 'bike still worked, and we took her back home for straightening up (clutch lever had a strange wee bend to it).
Swallowed my pride and we went for our little ride anyway. Went well apart from being very timid with speed still (largely narrow, hilly, windy streets granted, but 40 on the easier bits still felt like OMG). :gob:
Mom
30th August 2008, 17:09
OOps! It happens. Maybe an idea to get the bike taken to a more learner friendly flat area for a bit of confidence building. Riding really slowly is actually harder than riding fast, momentum is your friend :yes:
Keep at it though.
portokiwi
30th August 2008, 17:15
:hug:Chin up girl. Accidents happen.
At least you were ok. Bikes can be fixed. Bones take time.
Great to here you got stright back on and went for that ride.
That keeps the confidence up.
Remember what mum said... try flat and a little more speed as it helps the balance. Main thing.... DONT GIVE UP.:scooter:
CB ARGH
30th August 2008, 17:15
^^
I can just imagine that being used in the worst case scenario...
Officer: Sir do you have a reason for doing 165 in a 100 zone?
Noob: I do indeed sir, momentum is my friend.
Officer: Your an idiot
Noob: Have a donut
carver
30th August 2008, 17:16
consider yourself lucky, last time i crashed i could have easily killed my ex and myself.
CB ARGH
30th August 2008, 17:18
Oh by the way, yeah, shit happens some times! I thankfully haven't dropped the bike (thanks to dropping my old motocross bike 100,000 times and learning the true feeling of gravity)... but I have done something a bit... stupid.
I filtered through about 20 cars and went to the front of the que. The light went green, I felt a bit under pressure knowing there were 20 angry bastards behind me thinking "F**king teenager"... I over-revved and stalled. Haha :p
Mom
30th August 2008, 17:23
:hug:Chin up girl. Accidents happen.
At least you were ok. Bikes can be fixed. Bones take time.
Great to here you got stright back on and went for that ride.
That keeps the confidence up.
Remember what mum said... try flat and a little more speed as it helps the balance. Main thing.... DONT GIVE UP.:scooter:
I had a very slow speed whoopsie a couple of years ago, try as I might, the area I had to manouver in to avoid this dog that wanted to munch my legs as I came up HIS driveway, was insufficent to avoid a fall. That and the friggen kerb my rear tyre connected with...LOL. Going very slowly up a gravel drive, curving left through 45 degrees, GN with no chop down/open up power to assist me, curbed the rear and over she went. Worst of it was a simple foot plant would have stopped me toppling but... I picked the only place this bloody driveway had a deep culvert hard against it, my foot hit fresh air and the rest was history :lol: GN went down, I attempted a hollywood that was ignored :crybaby: the bike was tyres up, bars down in a ditch...LOL
It happens, momentum :yes:
Number One
30th August 2008, 20:29
Keep on keeping on - you'll get it with practise! AND YAY another chicky out and about on a bike in Welly...might see you round sometime ;)
CB ARGH
30th August 2008, 20:35
Keep on keeping on - you'll get it with practise! AND YAY another chicky out and about on a bike in Welly...might see you round sometime ;)
There's not many of the biker girls out there (WAAAAAAH!!!!). I take note of each biker and give a nod or a wave or whatever, probably seen about 50 bikers in the week (650km's distance btw) and finally today, a biker chick! Sadly wasn't the real Bik3rChick (or however it is spelt - sorry mavis!) :scooter:
Number One
30th August 2008, 20:39
There's not many of the biker girls out there
Actually there are fucken heaps of us girls out there...you just not looking hard enough ;)
MadDuck
30th August 2008, 20:41
There's not many of the biker girls out there
Probably more of us out there than you realise. Sometime tough to tell with all the gear on as we fly past you at "warp" speed :whistle:
Mom
30th August 2008, 20:49
Probably more of us out there than you realise. Sometime tough to tell with all the gear on as we fly past you at "warp" speed :whistle:
Warp speed is right, in your dreams :dodge:
Girls are everywhere!
howdamnhard
30th August 2008, 21:04
I dropped my bike again! :crybaby:
Turning out of our little street to head up into the hills where I've been practising (nothing but hills around here). Cocked up changing into second, slipped into neutral, realised why I wasn't going anywhere, got her into second and voom! stall! fallover to the left! :shit:
Glad you weren't hurt,remember the clutch is your friend.Use it to smooth things out,great when you get it in the wrong gear by mistake or the engine ceases etc,etc.Don.t worry about the speed thing,take it as slowly as is comfortable,the speed will come with time.It's probably best to take it slowly for now.Just keep riding.:scooter:
shafty
30th August 2008, 21:05
Hand in there Girl, as Mom says, learning on hills is blardy hard, so don't beat up on yourself, you'll do great.
Nice bike BTW!
MadDuck
30th August 2008, 21:09
Hand in there Girl, as Mom says, learning on hills is blardy hard, so don't beat up on yourself, you'll do great.
Yeah dont beat yourself up ...you will get there and laugh at your early days just like the rest of us.
I keep dropping my bike at the top of my driveway - cant imagine why. Worse thing for me is I can only just lift it up so need to go ask the neighbour to help me... :no:
bezajel
31st August 2008, 17:56
Maybe an idea to get the bike taken to a more learner friendly flat area for a bit of confidence building. Riding really slowly is actually harder than riding fast, momentum is your friend.
Apart from starting in a carpark (I did get bored fast), flat isn't much of an option around here :)
Today after a bit of practice in the hills that I'm familiar with, we went for a ride down to the bay, through a 70 zone. It was much easier than the hills!
Great to here you got stright back on and went for that ride. That keeps the confidence up.
It's funny, I was fine getting on after falling off, but today before going for a ride I was seriously panicking, guess the adrenaline from the day before had worn off... was ok after once around the block, I had to stop to calm down for a bit though.
I filtered through about 20 cars and went to the front of the que. The light went green, I felt a bit under pressure knowing there were 20 angry bastards behind me thinking "F**king teenager"... I over-revved and stalled. Haha :p
Hah yeah each time I start at an intersection I'm going "don't stall don't stall don't stall"..
Actually there are fucken heaps of us girls out there...you just not looking hard enough ;)
I never noticed girls on 'bikes til I started thinking I might learnt o ride myself... then I saw them everywhere!
Glad you weren't hurt,remember the clutch is your friend.Use it to smooth things out,great when you get it in the wrong gear by mistake or the engine ceases etc,etc.
I'm starting to use the clutch more! Practice practice practice :D
I keep dropping my bike at the top of my driveway - cant imagine why. Worse thing for me is I can only just lift it up so need to go ask the neighbour to help me... :no:
I picked mine up the first time, but I wasn't on the street then... I think I need to lay her down and practice getting her up, just so I know the best way to do it if I fall over in public again lol...
Irontusk
31st August 2008, 23:28
i could have easily killed my myself.
I thought that was your goal in life. (As read in a recent post)
Back on topic. I didn't have any problems with neutral for a while, but I hit neutral instead of 2nd and revved it up to get nothing twice yesterday, not a fun feeling. And the slight drop I had in my driveway was because I stalled it (I think, I don't know exactly what happened..), like Mom said about momentum and centrifugal force, I was expecting the bike to take care of itself as I moved forward (I may have also been trying to look behind me at the same time? Like I said, it happened pretty quick so I don't remember exactly..) to line up with my garage, but it stalled due to either me not using the clutch right or my bumpy sloped driveway (cobblestones, grrr) and it just tipped straight over. I didn't realise that's what it could've been but I was moving it around the driveway without warming it up today (just had to move it, wasn't going out) and it stalled, nearly having the same result, caught it in time though :)
MarkH
1st September 2008, 09:19
Hah yeah each time I start at an intersection I'm going "don't stall don't stall don't stall"..
I'm starting to use the clutch more! Practice practice practice :D
My machine is automatic, so I don't have to worry about clutch or stalling. But I wouldn't recommend it for a learner - it doesn't hurt to learn to use clutch + gears. When I come across a car driver that says they CAN'T drive a manual I think "WTF?". I can imagine the same thing with some scooter riders - learn on a 50, then get a 125 then a bigger scooter, full m/cycle license but unable to actually ride a bike with gears.
Keep up the practice and get used to clutch/throttle control - after a while stalling will be a very rare occurrence.
Badjelly
1st September 2008, 09:59
Cocked up changing into second, slipped into neutral, ...
Tell me about it :o. After a year with the Scorpio, I still do that from time to time. The gearbox is so smooth and light, the changes go through like butter--except, occasionally, they don't.
Cheer up. You will get better. With more experience, you won't muck up your gear changes as often, and you won't fall off when you do.
howdamnhard
1st September 2008, 15:29
[QUOTE=bezajel;1711005]
I'm starting to use the clutch more! Practice practice practice :D
Excellent keep up the good work.:2thumbsup. The great thing about riding is that you never stop learning to improve and it's fun.
Sam_I_am
13th September 2008, 17:24
ME TOO! :doh: I went out for the 2nd time today, wanted to practice stopping properly at stop signs etc. doing OK, then on a hill & having to turn right out of the road, stopped & gravity took over & over it went! Then had to pick it up, up hill! managed to lift it up though, then had a bit of a struggle getting my leg over.
Littlewheels
13th September 2008, 18:24
I have dropped the bike in all the worst places, at the top of my driveway LOL for all the neighbours who all think I'm strange anyway.
dropped it outside a rather big bike shop, so now I don't have to worry about that one any more.
also in the driveway of a very upmarket shop for gear, banging my head (luckily in helmet) on the wall of the building. I was so pissed off that I picked up the old girl (bike) like a feather, swearing like a trooper, and took off before anyone saw my face (very red)
these tales have had my friends in fits of laughter, so far have not hurt the bike as it usually lands on me (ha ha)
I tend to be more selective on where I go now and how I approach tricky places.
sinfull
13th September 2008, 18:44
The scorpio has got rather a long first gear unfortunately ! Its one of those things that ya have to say is good that it happened, only way to really learn is to experience ! Never nice to scratch up the bike, but getting straight back on is the key !
mowgli
13th September 2008, 19:01
I dropped my bike again! :crybaby:
Turning out of our little street to head up into the hills where I've been practising (nothing but hills around here). Cocked up changing into second, slipped into neutral, realised why I wasn't going anywhere, got her into second and voom! stall! fallover to the left! :shit:
Maybe you should go to a car park and practice moving off in second from standstill. Would help you get comfortable with slipping the clutch a bit more in such situations. When you've nailed it going straight try the same exercise setting off in a turn just as you were in this incident.
bezajel
13th September 2008, 19:06
I went out for the 2nd time today, wanted to practice stopping properly at stop signs etc.
I still need a bunch of stopping and starting practice, especially since at the moment I have a slight tendency to just keep going when i should probably stop to make sure it's safe...
I have dropped the bike in all the worst places, at the top of my driveway LOL for all the neighbours who all think I'm strange anyway.
dropped it outside a rather big bike shop, so now I don't have to worry about that one any more.
also in the driveway of a very upmarket shop for gear, banging my head (luckily in helmet) on the wall of the building. I was so pissed off that I picked up the old girl (bike) like a feather, swearing like a trooper, and took off before anyone saw my face (very red)
these tales have had my friends in fits of laughter, so far have not hurt the bike as it usually lands on me (ha ha)
I tend to be more selective on where I go now and how I approach tricky places.
I just have to try to ignore the really embarrassing situations where I do really embarrassing things, to avoid mucking up further! :whistle: I'm starting to be a bit more cautious and level headed now though which helps
bezajel
13th September 2008, 19:14
Tell me about it :o. After a year with the Scorpio, I still do that from time to time. The gearbox is so smooth and light, the changes go through like butter--except, occasionally, they don't.
Cheer up. You will get better. With more experience, you won't muck up your gear changes as often, and you won't fall off when you do.
My biggest issue with the Scorpio is the really annoying gear shift at the heel, must be my foot size but my heel keeps getting caught on it, and I reckon my foot's too small to use it anyway, prefer just to use my toes... I'm considering getting the damn thing cut off...
Maybe you should go to a car park and practice moving off in second from standstill. Would help you get comfortable with slipping the clutch a bit more in such situations. When you've nailed it going straight try the same exercise setting off in a turn just as you were in this incident.
It's probably about time for another carpark play, just a really HUGE carpark with fun obstacles so I don't get bored... hmm...
maybe
13th September 2008, 23:40
Main thing is no injuries and bike still ridable, we all have little opsys as long as we learn from them is what matters.
Happy riding. As I said we all do opsys:doh:
maybe
13th September 2008, 23:41
Main thing is no injuries and bike still ridable, we all have little opsys as long as we learn from them is what matters.
Happy riding.
CookMySock
14th September 2008, 09:16
Turning out of our little street to head up into the hills where I've been practising (nothing but hills around here). Cocked up changing into second, slipped into neutral, realised why I wasn't going anywhere, got her into second and voom! stall! fallover to the left! :shit:It happens. Last week my rather heavy 650 slipped out of first gear while doing a fairly quick U turn - suddenly no power to keep me upright resulted in a very loud STOMP of the foot to the ground to keep upright. Maybe your gearlever is set too high as well, but yeah you will get used to that neutral being there and the sneaky tricks it can pull on you.
Went well apart from being very timid with speed still (largely narrow, hilly, windy streets granted, but 40 on the easier bits still felt like OMG). :gob:hehe, come the summer you will be a legend on it. Aint no one more careful on a bike than my mrs, and after a few months practice she makes it look easy now, so just ride when you feel ready to - don't try too hard. The summer around your favourite places will be just great, you will see. ;)
Steve
Okey Dokey
14th September 2008, 12:48
I guess most or all of us dropped a bike once or twice while learning. The good thing is that you got on and kept learning. Good for you! It does get easier the more you ride. Cheers.
MSTRS
14th September 2008, 12:57
Girls are everywhere!
A double-edged sword...<_<
Fatt Max
16th September 2008, 08:10
Blimey, know the feeling mate,
I cocked up the gear change in Auckland traffic last night on the way home, stalled, over revved, swore and got sworn at. I was on the flat though so I didnt topple.
Good on ya for getting back on and giving it some though, we all have these little mishaps mate....the good thing is when all these seasoned bikers on KB and out on the road give you the thumbs up for just being out there, great feeling.
Big ups to your bad self
Take care, ride safe and eat pies:rockon:
Bend-it
16th September 2008, 08:44
We're all learners, doesn't matter what colour our licenses are.
Apart from starting in a carpark (I did get bored fast), flat isn't much of an option around here :)
Have you been on one of the roadsafe courses? I thoroughly recommend it to ANYONE! http://www.roadsafe.co.nz/ You spend almost half the day in a carpark learning lowspeed handling, and it was not boring at all! When I did the course, I was on an RF900, and thhere was a 800cc BMW, 1000cc VTR, plus a whole bunch of =<250s.
We did low speed manoevuring, riding around with the right (throttle hand) on your knee, so adjusting speed etc only by adjusting the clutch, emergency braking, one handed slalom riding etc.
It was a great day and changed my riding tremendously! I probably wouldn't be too far off saying that I'm alive because of that course!
I'd recommend doing one of their courses and then going back to a big carpark (I live in Welly too, and there are many around) every so often and repeating the exercises... it really is quite fun too!
bezajel
16th September 2008, 19:13
Have you been on one of the roadsafe courses? I thoroughly recommend it to ANYONE! http://www.roadsafe.co.nz/
That sounds pretty good, I did my BHS with them. After my ride home from work today (first time riding to/from work!) I think slow speed skills are a priority for me...! Plus technically how to do things rather than just working it out.
In my BHS (or learn to ride - I did the whole day) course we did the going round with your right hand on your knee... then I tried it on my own 'bike and just stalled... heh!
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