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slofox
3rd September 2008, 16:12
Mr Key says he will not invite NZ First to be a coalition partner after the election seeing as how Winnie has been such a bad boy......do you think he will stick to this policy or will he change his mind if the vote is tight? Wotcha think, eh?

Pussy
3rd September 2008, 16:15
If things keep on going the way they are, National won't need ANY coalition partner

Swampdonkey
3rd September 2008, 16:47
NZ first will be gone by lunchtime.......forever

Big Dan
3rd September 2008, 16:47
If things keep on going the way they are, National won't need ANY coalition partner

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Murray
3rd September 2008, 16:47
If things keep on going the way they are, National won't need ANY coalition partner

Exactly. Winnies in the pooh and will be flushed away

Swoop
3rd September 2008, 16:49
There is more coming out from NZ first. "We meant to declare that money" - Yeah, right!

Big Dan
3rd September 2008, 16:50
There is a song that i'm remind of when i think of winnie

thinks its sung by Andrea Bocelli: Its time to say goodbye

nallac
3rd September 2008, 17:30
If things keep on going the way they are, National won't need ANY coalition partner

+2

hopefully they won't need any anti smacking pc correct wussy partners..

The Stranger
3rd September 2008, 18:09
You already know the answer.

Quite simply - he's a politician.
If it means clinging to power he will form a coalition with the devil himself.

slofox
3rd September 2008, 18:50
You already know the answer.

Quite simply - he's a politician.
If it means clinging to power he will form a coalition with the devil himself.

:msn-wink:..............right.......

Robert Taylor
3rd September 2008, 19:21
You already know the answer.

Quite simply - he's a politician.
If it means clinging to power he will form a coalition with the devil himself.

No I disagree, key would never form a coaltion with the Labour party.

Oakie
3rd September 2008, 19:34
The report was:
"National Party leader John Key has ruled out Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters having a role in any future National coalition unless he can provide proof blah blah blah" He didn't rule out a coalition with NZ First. Just with Winnie. Very clever. Allows a coalition if Winnie is cleared and if not it sends a message to NZ First that if they get rid of Winnie they may still have a chance at a coalition. This would give National a partner if needed and get rid of the big embarassment that Winnie can be.

ynot slow
3rd September 2008, 21:12
Sounds really stupid,but wouldn't it be great if we knew which parties were sticking together,not like last election when noone knew which way Winnie was going to bend over,but then his ego kicked in when he bargained his portfolio for the party vote.Bit like Andertons' ultimatim,give me Kiwibank for my vote.

oldrider
3rd September 2008, 21:37
The report was:
"National Party leader John Key has ruled out Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters having a role in any future National coalition unless he can provide proof blah blah blah" He didn't rule out a coalition with NZ First. Just with Winnie. Very clever. Allows a coalition if Winnie is cleared and if not it sends a message to NZ First that if they get rid of Winnie they may still have a chance at a coalition. This would give National a partner if needed and get rid of the big embarassment that Winnie can be.

Good post Oakie, I was going to do the same because nobody seems to be quoting the meaning of what Key has actually been saying but you have nailed it OK.

I still think Clark and Co will be back, New Zealand voters really suck! (IMHO)

Unfortunately because of them, we all have to suck on the same dirty jube. Hope I am wrong! :Pokey: John.

oldrider
3rd September 2008, 21:41
No I disagree, key would never form a coaltion with the Labour party.

Actually he did. He backed them with the smacking bill. :shifty: Same thing IMHO. John.

caesius
3rd September 2008, 23:22
JK is a slippery as they come.

I prefered Don Brash TBH.

MisterD
4th September 2008, 06:04
John Key is a bloke who has made a lot of dosh by being good a reading trends and taking decisive action, I think he's learning politics very quickly and very well.

Some excellent work from the other KB:

ManDownUnder
4th September 2008, 09:26
JK is a slippery as they come.

If that means Politically Astute - I agree! But then so's Uncle Helen, and Winston.

I don't claim to like or back them all... but I certainly respect their abilities. I like Key personally. He's made it in the outaside world, and if he takes 1/2 those business skills into Govt NZ's going to be in for a tough but propserous time.

Tough on them taking more than they give... prosperous for the rest of us.

Works for me.

MisterD
4th September 2008, 11:35
Probably as easy to pose this question here, rather than start another politics thread:

So, with Owen Glenn due to provide evidence in person to the Privileges Committee on Tuesday and Parliament under urgency to ram the ETS legislation into the bent-over NZ public this week...who thinks Clark will call the election before Tuesday to prevent her own involvement coming to light?

Well, Whaleoil (http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/) for one, and me for two. It's a bugger, but I'd love to hear what OGG has to say given that Liarbour have been smearing him all over town for the last week since he refused to donate any more cash to them.

I reckon JK should make him Consul to Monaco, for services to New Zealand in making sure we're shot of Liarbour and Winston 1st in one go :msn-wink:

Tank
4th September 2008, 12:34
Probably as easy to pose this question here, rather than start another politics thread:

So, with Owen Glenn due to provide evidence in person to the Privileges Committee on Tuesday and Parliament under urgency to ram the ETS legislation into the bent-over NZ public this week...who thinks Clark will call the election before Tuesday to prevent her own involvement coming to light?

Well, Whaleoil (http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/) for one, and me for two. It's a bugger, but I'd love to hear what OGG has to say given that Liarbour have been smearing him all over town for the last week since he refused to donate any more cash to them.

I reckon JK should make him Consul to Monaco, for services to New Zealand in making sure we're shot of Liarbour and Winston 1st in one go :msn-wink:

We can only hope!

slofox
4th September 2008, 15:09
The report was:
"National Party leader John Key has ruled out Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters having a role in any future National coalition unless he can provide proof blah blah blah" He didn't rule out a coalition with NZ First. Just with Winnie. Very clever. Allows a coalition if Winnie is cleared and if not it sends a message to NZ First that if they get rid of Winnie they may still have a chance at a coalition. This would give National a partner if needed and get rid of the big embarassment that Winnie can be.

This is a very valid point Oakie - I should have been more careful with the wording of the poll but to be honest I was working from memory.....and as you know, political memory in NZ is very short........

Skyryder
4th September 2008, 17:27
The report was:
"National Party leader John Key has ruled out Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters having a role in any future National coalition unless he can provide proof blah blah blah" He didn't rule out a coalition with NZ First. Just with Winnie. Very clever. Allows a coalition if Winnie is cleared and if not it sends a message to NZ First that if they get rid of Winnie they may still have a chance at a coalition. This would give National a partner if needed and get rid of the big embarassment that Winnie can be.


Key has ruled out Douglas as a member of his cabinet so that effectivley gives ACT the bird. As for Key ruling out Winstone, it was the other way round. If I remember correctly it was Winstone as leader of NZ First who ruled out a colalition with Key. Most punters seem to have forgotton this and claim Key as an astute and smart politician. I hold the view that the NZ public has a short memory. By rejecting Douglas and Winstone, Key has reduced his options.
That is not smart politics it's dumb.


Skyryder

Robert Taylor
4th September 2008, 18:27
Good post Oakie, I was going to do the same because nobody seems to be quoting the meaning of what Key has actually been saying but you have nailed it OK.

I still think Clark and Co will be back, New Zealand voters really suck! (IMHO)

Unfortunately because of them, we all have to suck on the same dirty jube. Hope I am wrong! :Pokey: John.

I hope you are wrong too, what is clear is that Clarkenstein and her fellow fruitcakes will stop at nothing to retain power.

MisterD
4th September 2008, 19:52
Key has ruled out Douglas as a member of his cabinet so that effectivley gives ACT the bird.

Ah no, he's ruled Roger out as finance minister - not quite the same thing.

freddy72
4th September 2008, 20:30
Hopefully winnie will be gone and he won't have to make that choice

Skyryder
4th September 2008, 22:42
Ah no, he's ruled Roger out as finance minister - not quite the same thing.


http://www.tv3.co.nz/News/Story/tabid/209/articleID/50023/cat/41/Default.aspx


Not according to 3 News. Key has ruled out
Douglas in the Cabinet period. There's other links that say much the same thing.

Skyryder

oldrider
4th September 2008, 22:52
This country is getting politically sillier by the minute and like I said much earlier in the year, miraculously, the polls are closing up! :wacko: John.

oldrider
4th September 2008, 23:00
http://www.tv3.co.nz/News/Story/tabid/209/articleID/50023/cat/41/Default.aspx


Not according to 3 News. Key has ruled out
Douglas in the Cabinet period. There's other links that say much the same thing.

Skyryder

Yeh, well that almost confirms two votes for ACT from me this election, so far. :yes: Libertarianz next choice! :shifty: John.