What would you do?

[FROSTY]

Our Car yard backs onto a local school. 11-13 year old kids.
Yesterday a couple of "likely lads" thought it would be great fun to throw "stuff" at the yard. It started out innocent enough-an apple kicked at the chain mail fence. but then it got worse and worse with stones being hurled up and over the buildings and onto front yard--ie onto tens of thousands of dollars worth of cars.
The school was called and one lad got caught and is in deep shit with his mother.--the other kids scattered -denying all knowledge.
Next break in school and theyre at it again.--One kid being clearly the ringleader.
AT this point in time -what would YOU do ??

[MisterD]

Our Car yard backs onto a local school. 11-13 year old kids.
Yesterday a couple of "likely lads" thought it would be great fun to throw "stuff" at the yard. It started out innocent enough-an apple kicked at the chain mail fence. but then it got worse and worse with stones being hurled up and over the buildings and onto front yard--ie onto tens of thousands of dollars worth of cars.
The school was called and one lad got caught and is in deep shit with his mother.--the other kids scattered -denying all knowledge.
Next break in school and theyre at it again.--One kid being clearly the ringleader.
AT this point in time -what would YOU do ??

Catch the little sh1t, drag him physically to the head's office and ring the pollis from there.

[Number One]

Jump the fence and smash em all! :lol:

[alanzs]

YELL AT THE KIDS TO STOP. Most 11-13 year olds will be scared to death of you when confronted and will run away.
If you can, take a picture of the kids and go show it to the principal. Tell the principal if they are not stopped, you will call the police on them IF IT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN! Also, tell the principal you want them to clean up the mess.
Even if you can't take a picture, tell the principal, as in a school they will know who the kids are.
Most principals will be scared shitless of your threat, as it means they are not supervising the kids well. And, they generally do want to control their students...

[lostinflyz]

jump on the roof to clean your 12 gauge. i swear officer i just like cleaning my shottie up here.

[dino3310]

see the principle or dean get around the class rooms with him or her and point
the finger at the culprits, photo would be good if the school don't do f.a you could take the photos to the cops.
don't grab them, the little bugger's will do you for assault

[dino3310]

jump on the roof to clean your 12 gauge. i swear officer i just like cleaning my shottie up here.

yeah yeah, cleaning it with rock salts:laugh:

[MisterD]

don't grab them, the little bugger's will do you for assault

Restraining someone causing criminal damage to your property isn't assault - is it??:(

[avgas]

electrify the fence

[kiwifruit]

Call the cops

[shafty]

Digital camera > zoom in on culprit, e-mail to Principal, good luck

[portokiwi]

Film them, that way you have the proof and the little shits cant deny it then.
If you touch them they can call assult, molistation, if you are white and they are anyother colour its rasist. Film them go see the principle get him ti call the police with you present. Then get the school to get the kids into the office with a policeman there that will make them crap their pants..... worse case get the police to see their perents with the vidio and cost for damage of vechs and walls. That will get the kids something to remember.:argue:

[imdying]

Find the biggest meanest kids at the school, pay them $20 for each of the little gimps they hospitalise?

[notme]

Photos as suggested by others, but if you have the opportunity to be home when they next try it, I'd suggest you might want to happen to be cleaning your roof or something just around the corner out of view - and hose the buggers down.

They'll love the rest of their school day, and can't really complain to anyone without explaining why they are wet!

[DEATH_INC.]

Call the cops
What he said.....they'll scare the little shits, and you may even be able to recoup the damages :)

[fireliv]

Find the biggest meanest kids at the school, pay them $20 for each of the little gimps they hospitalise?

I like it :lol:

They are old enough to appear in yourth court, call the cops

[fLaThEaD FreD]

Photos as suggested by others, but if you have the opportunity to be home when they next try it, I'd suggest you might want to happen to be cleaning your roof or something just around the corner out of view - and hose the buggers down.

They'll love the rest of their school day, and can't really complain to anyone without explaining why they are wet!

But hosing someone is classed as assault....I have checked out that one.:lol:

[fLaThEaD FreD]

Film them, that way you have the proof and the little shits cant deny it then.
If you touch them they can call assult, molistation, if you are white and they are anyother colour its rasist. Film them go see the principle get him ti call the police with you present. Then get the school to get the kids into the office with a policeman there that will make them crap their pants..... worse case get the police to see their perents with the vidio and cost for damage of vechs and walls. That will get the kids something to remember.:argue:


I feel this is the best option sofar.
:Police:

[Murray]

i remember ages ago when the same thing happened to me and a group of guys with the stones being thrown over the fence at us etc. I ran and caught one of them and gave him a clip over the ear and he went away and it stopped. hello next moment police arrive and question us (the parents called them). Thankfully this was a number of years ago and the police just said don't do it again (to us). Sorry but victims have no rights, you can't really do anything but call the police and good luck there getting a speedy response.

little shitbags need a good clip across the ear!!!

[Swoop]

electrify the fence
It already is...

[notme]

But hosing someone is classed as assault....I have checked out that one.:lol:

What assault (officer?)

"I was hosing some debris off the roof (or cleaning cars or whatever), I didn't know these little shi-I mean kids there, honest! I must have sprayed them accidentally. What were they doing there anyway officer, shouldn't they have been learning thier reading riting and rithmatic??? *all innocent*"

[fLaThEaD FreD]

What assault (officer?)

"I was hosing some debris off the roof (or cleaning cars or whatever), I didn't know these little shi-I mean kids there, honest! I must have sprayed them accidentally. What were they doing there anyway officer, shouldn't they have been learning thier reading riting and rithmatic??? *all innocent*"

However been there done that........The Lil angels fuckin do gooder holy'er than thou parents can still have you charged!........It does constitute common assault and you can be convicted and discharged first time but then you have a conviction...........the other way is pay for a soliciter to defend you if you can afford the fees and time off work etc,etc............I think I would prefer the legal option first.

[Timber020]

The real risk is turning this nasty, and your the only one thats got something to loose, so of course you have to be very careful.

First try the cops and principal

then parents then if that doesnt work one of my mates does that air soft shooting crap out of each other thing. Like paintball but more painful. They have battery powered rifles that spit out LOTS of pellets pretty quietly at 450 fps. He looks like a overproducing weltfarm in areas hes not wearing armour. One of there rifles would easy spit alot of pain through a chainlink fence.

Or you could do something to sponsor the school. Something stupid like have a cheap trade in car that you offer to the older less well off kids or guys in the rugby team in the school to get driving leasons in (often some of the bigger nastier kids) but they pay for gas. Let them know if your yard gets attacked, no more access to car. have a booking system so kids are booked in for months ahead so if some kids ruin it for them they will be VERY angry with them. It might be cheaper than paying for damaged cars in the long term and with some signwriting a good PR exercise locally.

Edit, just read that its proabably an intermediate. Kids to young to drive. Maybe offer some work to one of the bigger kids to clean cars on the weekend. Only a few hours, but if he mainly looks after cars close to the fence, you may find the problem goes away.

[Patrick]

Gotta be "intentional..."

"Accidentally" spraying them with the hose while cleaning ya roof is not assault...

Parents who moan about their little shits getting a clip deserve to receive the repair bills for the damage caused to your vehicles......

11, 12 and 13 year olds are not old enough to appear in youth court, but Youth Aid can seek damages from the parents.

[Headbanger]

Take a photo.

Send the bill for damages to there parents.

[FROSTY]

Well the mother of fella number one is horrified.
After a bit of a conversation said boy is going to be doing a days hard labour on the yard. -there's a bunch of gaps in the concrete that need scrubbing out with a toothbrush. Weedding to be done etc. --She's all for it.

With the second kid I jumped over the fence and frog marched him into the principles office.-Those of ya that have done a KB trackday might have an idea of the power of an angry voice.
He was all bolshy in front of his mates--closer he go to the office the more he crumbled.
Turns out its far from the first time and his dads not exactly a pillar of society.
KInda makes you think don't it? My kneejerk reaction was to scrag the little shit. Now I'm wondering

Ohh and what blows me away--these kids aint small are they --1.75 tall and solid--if they can toss rocks that far how far could they toss a football or a cricket ball??

[notme]

Ohh and what blows me away--these kids aint small are they --1.75 tall and solid--if they can toss rocks that far how far could they toss a football or a cricket ball??

If only the means or motivation or SOMETHING was available to them to get rid of thier energy in team sports, form camraderie and a feeling of pride, keep them from being bored etc.

Too often it's not an opion for reasons of budget, teacher/coachin resources, all that good stuff.

[piston broke]

video them,take to the principal,or if you have too,the law.
ask for reperation,but ensure that it is positive.call it,p.c, if you like,but i know productivity works better than punishment

[KiwiRat]

Glad to see Parent #1 is taking the situation seriously. It's all too common to hear nowadays that parents are merely an adult version of the little shits that they spawn.

[alanzs]

He was all bolshy in front of his mates--closer he go to the office the more he crumbled.
Turns out its far from the first time and his dads not exactly a pillar of society.
KInda makes you think don't it? My kneejerk reaction was to scrag the little shit. Now I'm wondering

It makes me think, you did the right thing. Compassion is balanced with him taking responsibility. He needs to learn NOT to do what he did. That his father is a fuckup makes your actions even more important. Learning to take responsibility can never be taught too young.

Last year, a neighbour at the school I work at was being broken into. I was on yard duty and heard it. I yelled at the kids and they ran like scared babies. I chased them about a block screaming at them at the top of my lungs. They were absolutely terrified. A car saw me running, stopped and I told them to please call the cops. The neighbours were pointing out to me where they had gone. The cops came and caught these kids. They were apparently from the local intermediate school. They were with an older friend who was in a car. They had been responsible for robbing a bunch of houses in the area.
As they were so young, nothing happened to them, but they will know if they come to the school I work at, some mean foul mouthed American guy may come chasing them, so they have not been back since. I hope they shit themselves. The cop later came and interviewed me. He laughed and asked me what I had said as I was yelling, as the kids said that I had made them fear for their lives! I told him and he thanked me for getting involved. A few other teachers (all female) said how I could have been killed, as what if they were armed. I laughed and said I wasn't worried. Adrenaline and fucking rage had kicked in.

[FROSTY]

OK you lot --I need a list of the dirtyest yukkiest jobs you can possibly give a kid of around 10 years old ---let the buggers pay methinks :Punk:

[MadDuck]

Send the precious gems to me. I am clearing the front section :devil2:

[FROSTY]

HMM---rope and a pair of sisors hu?

[Gremlin]

clean cars/buildings, how clean are the wheels on the cars? with brake dust etc, they often get dirty... got enough vehicles? :rolleyes: Maybe manual labour moving stuff around the yard?

What was damaged that they could work on? Perhaps show them the consequences of their actions (ie, quick thoughtless action from their side results in a lot of problems, that take much longer to sort out).

Need to still have the parents on your side, so avoid potentially dangerous stuff.

Got any graffiti?

[MadDuck]

HMM---rope and a pair of sisors hu?

nah mate...nail clippers and free fall.

[Mully]

OK you lot --I need a list of the dirtyest yukkiest jobs you can possibly give a kid of around 10 years old ---let the buggers pay methinks :Punk:

Maybe get them to do something with that giant bucket of used sump oil, Frosty....

Or get all the bikes for next weekend round for a free grooming.....

Heh, little fuckers.

BTW, PDF of the Western Leader article from yesterday is coming... you havent escaped that, mate

[slimjim]

Well Well how quick ya's think that causing them harm..and ya's bitch when someone kills some one.... hummmm...

yes good and well find the names.. yes film too.. what get another address.. turn up with local area commuitiy copper.. and tell the parents that you plan to take the parents to small claim court..

otherwise wait til they grow up..

or pay to shift whole families away..

or shift car yard..

in the end its really an ongoing problem..and its not that easely solved...

parents-kids- whats really the law gona do..
fucking real tough one.. all the best of luck..