Fatal Bike Crash - Alfriston

[Da Bird]

Went to a fatal bike crash today (well yesterday now) on Mill Road, Alfriston.

Gang member riding a crapped out old Kawasaki something forgot to go around a left hand bend and went head on into the front of a 4x4 at fairly high speed. Straight into the windscreen and back onto the road (with an apparent broken neck). Now that had to hurt (but he probably died pretty quickly).

Rev counter jammed at 7000 revs so i'm guessing he was honking it a bit. Someone said the bike got the speed wobbles just before he crashed so that wouldn't have helped matters.

[Waylander]

DAMN...... well atleast he did something fun before he went to the big freeway in the sky. Do you know if the rider was a new one or what?

[Jantar]

7000 rpm on any Kwaka would be fair stonkin along.

[vtec]

Have to say it, but 7000rpm on a zxr250 in top gear is probably about 75k/hr. Very differen't on a bigger capacity Kawasaki. Was he on drugs or something? I suppose we'll find out in due course, cheers for the heads up.

[Jantar]

Have to say it, but 7000rpm on a zxr250 in top gear is probably about 75k/hr. Very differen't on a bigger capacity Kawasaki. Was he on drugs or something? I suppose we'll find out in due course, cheers for the heads up.

True, But really? A gang member on a 250?

Ok I admit it.. I assumed that being a gang member it would have to a 900 as a minimum and probably bigger.

[vtec]

True, But really? A gang member on a 250?

Ok I admit it.. I assumed that being a gang member it would have to a 900 as a minimum and probably bigger.

Fair enough, I was just being a smart arse and pointing out a fallacy.

[Motoracer]

May your soul RIP, dude.

[Deano]

True, But really? A gang member on a 250?


A gang member on a Jappa even ?

[dangerous]

A gang member on a Jappa even ?
yeah that was what I first thought..... then the next thought was a black 79 Z9/1000 :pinch:

[StoneChucker]

It may have been an initiation ride. Survive this, and you're in with us...

Whoever it was, doing whatever they were doing, RIP buddy, and at least you went out with a bang. Can't think of many better ways to go. (Not now obviously, but when it's your time) (Oh, preferably without injuring someone else that is...)

[inlinefour]

Bet that bike aint good for much now :scooter:

[jase]

At least now I now why the road was closed. :Police: :scooter:

[mattt]

Bet that bike aint good for much now :scooter:

True that, now it's as good as a Honda

:killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme

[riffer]

I daresay the gang member isn't too worried about it now but no-ones mentioned so I will: Hope you're doing okay today BykeyCop. It can't be good dealing with this kind of shit, particularly as a motorcyclist yourself.

I'm constantly amazed that people like yourself can attend accidents, and still continue to ride. I'm sure I would lose my nerve after a few, and start worrying whenever I was riding.

So I guess this accident will be put down to "speed was a factor". :(

I would speculate the Kawasaki might have been a Z1000. They seem to be okay in the gang members minds.

Sad stuff, really. RIP.

[crashe]

BykeyCop are you doing ok, after having to attend that scene....?

I have heard that some gang members will borrow a 250cc to go and get their license, as a few of them are riding without a license at all.

What ever the reason that this guy was doing, and the facts will come out eventually, he will be missed by his family and his mates (the gang).

I guess in a few days time there will be a huge procession of bikes heading down the motorway to the funeral and probably none of them will be wearing helmets either. RIP dude.

[Hooks]

[QUOTE=celticno6]I daresay the gang member isn't too worried about it now but no-ones mentioned so I will: Hope you're doing okay today BykeyCop. It can't be good dealing with this kind of shit, particularly as a motorcyclist yourself.

I'm constantly amazed that people like yourself can attend accidents, and still continue to ride. I'm sure I would lose my nerve after a few, and start worrying whenever I was riding.

What he said mate.... Also it's one of the few times I actually feel sorry for the cage driver ... That must have been one hell of a shock !! ....

[avgas]

Well to contradict my signature, the guy didnt know how to ride properly. Bikey Cop - dont take to much in :sick: cos it wont be any good for you.
I could never be a cop, they do the jobs that everyone hates :yes:

[toads]

I have to agree with hooks here, the driver of the 4wd will be seriously freaked out him/herself if not physically injured if a solid object such as a biker comes hurling itself at your windscreen at speed, not nice.
Also the whole thing of public perception of motorcyclists is not improved any by this sort of thing, I know he was somebodies loved one, and all that, but these sort of accidents perpetuate the image that all bikers are law breaking, renegades recklessly endangering their lives and others.
Not something I like to read, cos I know our acc levies will just keep on rising. GRRRRRRR

[spudchucka]

the bike got the speed wobbles just before he crashed so that wouldn't have helped matters.
Speed wobbles were a feature of many older kawasaki's!

[NC]

Guess you guys will be keeping a close eye on the funural after party..

[Blakamin]

Speed wobbles were a feature of many older kawasaki's!
Factory fitted on my 76 z900.... over 180 it had a headshake like a horse!!

[SPman]

Factory fitted on my 76 z900.... over 180 it had a headshake like a horse!!
Bugger the headshake - the H1 used to try and corkscrew the rear on anything approaching a curve at speed.
More importantly, how were the motorists. Some dumbfuck spears into the front of a vehicle out of control at speed, doesnt get my sympathy vote.

[Da Bird]

I daresay the gang member isn't too worried about it now but no-ones mentioned so I will: Hope you're doing okay today BykeyCop. It can't be good dealing with this kind of shit, particularly as a motorcyclist yourself.

I'm constantly amazed that people like yourself can attend accidents, and still continue to ride. I'm sure I would lose my nerve after a few, and start worrying whenever I was riding.

So I guess this accident will be put down to "speed was a factor". :(

I would speculate the Kawasaki might have been a Z1000. They seem to be okay in the gang members minds.

Sad stuff, really. RIP.

Thanks for asking how I am... I am fine thanks. It wasn't particularly messy which was good but the woman driving the 4x4 was taken to hospital in shock.

These crashes certainly do bring home the reality of biking but this one and the last fatal bike crash I went to on the motorway in Bombay were both the result of speed / stupidity (as far as I can see) so a lot of the time, the end result is almost predictable.

Certainly shook up another cop at the scene who had just bought a bike...

[scumdog]

Sometimes after attending M/C crash (or come to think of it ANY crash) I am almost paranoid when I head off on my next ride, takes a few km to get my confidence back and speed up, all I can think about is "shit that guy was a mess" and think it could have been me - but as Bykey Cop says, a lot are caused by some form of driver error on the part of the rider as opposed to unpredictable outside forces.

Still, seeing a crash DOES tend to tune up your caution and make you ride more defensively!!

[dangerous]

Still, seeing a crash DOES tend to tune up your caution and make you ride more defensively!!
And give you the attude that a couple of the coppers/medics on board here have....... and fair nuff too.

[spudchucka]

Sometimes after attending M/C crash (or come to think of it ANY crash) I am almost paranoid when I head off on my next ride, takes a few km to get my confidence back and speed up, all I can think about is "shit that guy was a mess" and think it could have been me - but as Bykey Cop says, a lot are caused by some form of driver error on the part of the rider as opposed to unpredictable outside forces.

Still, seeing a crash DOES tend to tune up your caution and make you ride more defensively!!
The only time I feel paranoid is when I head out on a family trip after attending a crash or mortuary procedure. Threre's nothing like visions of your most loved ones as victims of something like that to make you drive very very carefully.