Is it now illegal to wave to each other?

[MD]

Been ages since I started a thread so any excuse. Just got back from a ripper two day jaunt. Wgtn-Tauranga yesterday. Then Tauranga-Hamilton (did the Kaimai Hill twice for good measure) and home today. Lots of detours on the way.
Observations:
1. hardly any riders waved back. Honestly I showered each day, clean undies, no BO or zits or leprosy so why the hell do so few riders acknowledge a friendly wave. You want to come across them later on, stranded with a flat and pull up and say " Hey, I can help but you're that arsehole who ignored me earlier so up you too, I'm off to help someone who deserves it"
Saw lots of Ducatis on the trip and they get top honours for ALL waving. Some Harleys dudes are coming around too and of course you meet the nicest people on Hondas, the rest suck! But the biggest winge goes to all those Triumph riders that gave me the WTF look when I waved at them. The sort of "who the hell are you waving at prick" look. You arseholes, I was riding a Triumph even.
2. The Trumpet. First long trip on the new Triumph xxx (horrible name so I wont use it but think of a large country where any idiot can get elected, prove he's an idiot and THEN get re-elected) I'm stoked with how it went. Brilliant for touring. Got 302kms on a tank! but it must have been down to the last drop. Actually it took 16.5 litres to fill and the book says it holds 16.6. That's 52 mpg for the oldies or 18kpl
3. Best Cop award. In fact there were two of em. But first the radar detector was working overtime saving me heaps of times. When you think, umm, clear stretch ahead I might just wind it out for a sec, then beep beep, back it off and whooa, that was lucky! Twice on the Desert road I pulled out to shoot pass a few slower cars-truck-caravan-you name it when , beep beep, whoaa, pull back it, that was lucky, look who just came over the horizon. Anyway, came round one bend at 120ks and straight into HP who flashed his lights at me, gave me a friendly 'slow down please mate' wave. In fact he gave me a friendlier wave than most of the bikes on the trip.Cheers.
But the award goes to the top man who pulled me over checked at 150kph and let me off with a verbal warning. I'm not taking the piss here, he caught me fair and accepted what was my honest story. He was a nice guy and I thank him. Restored my faith in human nature. Before anyone picks on me. The story was. I reached Taupo, stinkin hot so I took off my gloves, opened the jacket up and took a scenic cruise round to Kinloch at 90 kph soaking up ther sun and atmosphere. Radar had been giving me intermittent warnings but as I wasn't speeding I ignored it and each time thought, nah, none of these cars coming at me are HP and that same white car has been behind me for a while. I didn't notice the marked HP behind that car. I had to pass a slow car on a downhill straight and in a moment's weakness I let rip, pulled back in and just didn't return to 90/100kph as soon as I should have. Shit I backed off when I saw what was flashing in my mirrors. The officer really was a good guy and accepted that he had tailed me for some time and I was riding fine and it was a slow car that prompted me to pass [ie. otherewise I would have continued at my 90kph doddle]
Cheers again, you made a great trip even better and I took heed of the warning in appreciation of the shit he could have dumped me in.
MD

[Stevo]

How nice to have a happy thread for once. Full marks to you. Maybe you have to ride the Honda more often though, just so people don't automatically assume you to be a prick. :killingme :killingme :killingme :killingme

[Warren]

Is it now illegal to wave to each other?

No but I do believe it is illegal to drive over the posted speed limit.

[sels1]

1. hardly any riders waved back.MD

Still getting plenty of return waves in the Wellington/Waiarapa area (Harleys excluded of course)

You were lucky with that cop!

[avgas]

Happy to hear from someone who boots the new style bonnies, for a while there i though id only see born-again-riders on em :wavey:

[Posh Tourer :P]

Just you wait, they'll try to ban it soon, must be almost as dangerous as using a cellphone......

[Waylander]

:thud: havnt had anyone wave to me yet in this country i was wondering if that was just an americna thing or something, glad to see its not

[Will]

Been ages since I started a thread so any excuse. Just got back from a ripper two day jaunt. Wgtn-Tauranga yesterday. Then Tauranga-Hamilton (did the Kaimai Hill twice for good measure) and home today. Lots of detours on the way.
Observations:
1. hardly any riders waved back. Honestly I showered each day, clean undies, no BO or zits or leprosy so why the hell do so few riders acknowledge a friendly wave. You want to come across them later on, stranded with a flat and pull up and say " Hey, I can help but you're that arsehole who ignored me earlier so up you too, I'm off to help someone who deserves it"
Saw lots of Ducatis on the trip and they get top honours for ALL waving. Some Harleys dudes are coming around too and of course you meet the nicest people on Hondas, the rest suck! But the biggest winge goes to all those Triumph riders that gave me the WTF look when I waved at them. The sort of "who the hell are you waving at prick" look. You arseholes, I was riding a Triumph even.
2. The Trumpet. First long trip on the new Triumph xxx (horrible name so I wont use it but think of a large country where any idiot can get elected, prove he's an idiot and THEN get re-elected) I'm stoked with how it went. Brilliant for touring. Got 302kms on a tank! but it must have been down to the last drop. Actually it took 16.5 litres to fill and the book says it holds 16.6. That's 52 mpg for the oldies or 18kpl
3. Best Cop award. In fact there were two of em. But first the radar detector was working overtime saving me heaps of times. When you think, umm, clear stretch ahead I might just wind it out for a sec, then beep beep, back it off and whooa, that was lucky! Twice on the Desert road I pulled out to shoot pass a few slower cars-truck-caravan-you name it when , beep beep, whoaa, pull back it, that was lucky, look who just came over the horizon. Anyway, came round one bend at 120ks and straight into HP who flashed his lights at me, gave me a friendly 'slow down please mate' wave. In fact he gave me a friendlier wave than most of the bikes on the trip.Cheers.
But the award goes to the top man who pulled me over checked at 150kph and let me off with a verbal warning. I'm not taking the piss here, he caught me fair and accepted what was my honest story. He was a nice guy and I thank him. Restored my faith in human nature. Before anyone picks on me. The story was. I reached Taupo, stinkin hot so I took off my gloves, opened the jacket up and took a scenic cruise round to Kinloch at 90 kph soaking up ther sun and atmosphere. Radar had been giving me intermittent warnings but as I wasn't speeding I ignored it and each time thought, nah, none of these cars coming at me are HP and that same white car has been behind me for a while. I didn't notice the marked HP behind that car. I had to pass a slow car on a downhill straight and in a moment's weakness I let rip, pulled back in and just didn't return to 90/100kph as soon as I should have. Shit I backed off when I saw what was flashing in my mirrors. The officer really was a good guy and accepted that he had tailed me for some time and I was riding fine and it was a slow car that prompted me to pass [ie. otherewise I would have continued at my 90kph doddle]
Cheers again, you made a great trip even better and I took heed of the warning in appreciation of the shit he could have dumped me in.
MD


I was out and about on this gorgeous day and I wasn't getting many waves returned.
I hope that this is only a temporary aberation.
After all, bikers are a very small minority out there. Just think how it looks to the cage drivers when we wave to each other all the time. We have mates every where! They might be polite to us as well as "other bikers" if you catch my drift.

[Stevo]

They might be polite to us as well as "other bikers" if you catch my drift.

Yeah right! Ignorance is bliss. Why would they care if we wave to each other. Tis nothing but a friendly gesture but lets face it not everyone in this country is friendly..................... even among bikers.
Would be nice if it was the case tho.

[Waylander]

well on the bright side everyone on here probably still waves to other bikers if the "trend keeps going then it would make it that much easier to identify each other (to bring another topic from a different thread in i dont know how to post links to other threads yet else i would) if you wave and the biker waves back its a KBer :wavey:











(wahoo 100 posts.... 100 more and all i have to do is wait for the senior membership to roll on in :Punk:

[moko]

Seems here that guys who ride all year round will wave almost every time.Come Summer the "look at me" dorks come out and seem to have some incorrect "self-image" thing going on.
worst case I`ve had was a couple of years ago.I passed an R6 rider pushing his bike while on my XT600,pulled in and offered a hand.He said thanks but there was a fuel outlet within sight and he`d just carry on.I offered him a lift,a push or whatever.Again he said thanks but no thanks so off I went.This was a very distinctive ride/bike combo with matching custom colour scheme so I know for a fact it was the same prick that totally blanked me an hour later when I passed him going the opposite way to me.
I`ve had some idiot on a Harley actually give me the finger when I`ve waved,never,ever had that reaction before or since in years of riding.

[scumdog]

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I`ve had some idiot on a Harley actually give me the finger when I`ve waved,never,ever had that reaction before or since in years of riding.

Maybe they knew what you were REALLY like! :bleh: :bleh: :lol:

[inlinefour]

Lucky, I hope we all come accross the same ploddy if we are that way. Don't think its illegal to wave, its just that not many riders are doing it. However I'll keep on nodding and waving as generally about half wave or nod back :niceone:

[Riff Raff]

I did lots of waving yesterday on the novice ride. Everyone on sports bikes waved back. Lots of gang members on Harley passed us heading up to Auckland for the gang member who was killed the other day on his bike. I waved at them all, but not one of them waved back. But then again I didn't expect them to - I think I was doing it just to get up their noses!

[crashe]

I did lots of waving yesterday on the novice ride. Everyone on sports bikes waved back. Lots of gang members on Harley passed us heading up to Auckland for the gang member who was killed the other day on his bike. I waved at them all, but not one of them waved back. But then again I didn't expect them to - I think I was doing it just to get up their noses!


Aww Riff, they all (gang boys) waved back to me..... as they went past me...

I waved to everyone else as well.... in a couple of places I could only nod.

[NC]

Watch for the head-nod, not for the wave.

[Two Smoker]

Aww Riff, they all (gang boys) waved back to me..... as they went past me...

I waved to everyone else as well.... in a couple of places I could only nod.

None of them waved to me either... But then they were probably scared that my Jappa 150 would turn around and annialate them.....

Sounds like you had and awesome time Mark :niceone:

[Blakamin]

see... Duc owners rock!!! :o ;)

I have noticed that some triumph owners these days are up there with BMW owners... but mainly when they're on RAT rides....


another quick thing...
stoppped at the pub the other day coz there was a triumph parked there. I went in and the guy just turned the other way... dick
didn't care coz he was one of the few that wear a 30 yo full face lid with no visor (looked fuckin stupid) and sunnies to keep the bugs out.. just after sunset. the bike leaked more than a 74 H-D, and I got a a bit of a giggle when he was looking all staunch to go to kick her over, and it didnt start.... he looked stuffed when he finally got it running.

[crashe]

None of them waved to me either... But then they were probably scared that my Jappa 150 would turn around and annialate them.....

Sounds like you had and awesome time Mark :niceone:


Ummmm TS - Chris, I aint Mark....lol :( :spudwhat:
But I will forgive you for this wee mistake this time....lol

[Two Smoker]

Ummmm TS - Chris, I aint Mark....lol :( :spudwhat:
But I will forgive you for this wee mistake this time....lol

LOL, But MD stands for Mark Dunn, The person that started the thread and had a great trip on his trumpy...

[crashe]

:scooter: Phew... well thats ok then....PMSL....

[MD]

Ummmm TS - Chris, I aint Mark....lol :( :spudwhat:
But I will forgive you for this wee mistake this time....lol
Crashe, I think TS was speaking to me.
TS- yeah it was a ripper trip.
Avgas - too right the new Bonnies are top machines. Shame they haven't received the good press they deserve. Mags seem to overlook them altogether, try and find a test review. Its awesome to corner and exagerates the lean 'fun factor'. Hard to explain. At a given speed you are cranked well over having a ball where a sports bike would need more speed to give the same amount of lean and 'fun factor' on the same corner. In really tight stuff it rocks along at a great pace where most sports bike would struggle. I think the Bonnies would be at the top of the cruiser pile for cornering clearance and flick-ability. Then there's the comfort and laid back, feet forward rider position, so cool.
I might have to start another thread because I'm a tortured soul trying to decide what 'single' bike I should own. Love em both but the Blade wants to go too fast to often and the Bonnie has its moments when a bit more go would be nice and it wont do stunts when the mood takes you. I'll have a think about this dilema and start another thread sometime. MD

[vifferman]

I had to pass a slow car on a downhill straight and in a moment's weakness I let rip, pulled back in and just didn't return to 90/100kph as soon as I should have. Shit I backed off when I saw what was flashing in my mirrors. The officer really was a good guy and accepted that he had tailed me for some time and I was riding fine and it was a slow car that prompted me to pass [ie. otherewise I would have continued at my 90kph doddle]
Excellent write-up, MD! :niceone:
Glad you enjoyed your ride.

Wish I'd had the same luck as you. My ticket last year was in similar circumstances, except that the cop was sitting hidden on the side of the road, and pinged me in a passing lane, for passing a low car I'd been following for 15 minutes, after which I promptly slowed down again.
I reckon he was after people who allowed their speed to creep while going down the (steep) hill, or who (like me) pulled out to pass going up hill, the first place to pass for many a kilometre. :angry2:

Still, I was speeding, albeit only briefly (and very safely). So it's like Joe Walsh said: "I can't complain, but sometimes I still do..." :)


Its awesome to corner and exagerates the lean 'fun factor'. Hard to explain. At at a given speed you are cranked well over having a ball where a sports bike would need more speed to give the same amount of lean and 'fun factor' on the same corner.
A Harley went past my house yesterday (unusual in that the guy riding it wasn't from our area, but not unusual in that it's a great street to ride along with nice smooth surface and sweeping curves). Anyhoo, I watched him, and the bike wasn't leaning much, but it must have been "exaggerating the lean and fun factor", because he was leaning slightly the other way....:rolleyes:

[jrandom]

Anyhoo, I watched him, and the bike wasn't leaning much, but it must have been "exaggerating the lean and fun factor", because he was leaning slightly the other way....:rolleyes:

In his mind, your street was a flat track, and he was sideways through the corner at 150kph, teeth gritted into the flying clay, about to haul his beast upright and fly down the back straight...

[Mongoose]

Watch for the head-nod, not for the wave.

Wot she said, while looking for a wave, how many times have you missed the head nod and thought "Snobby prick" when in fact your greeting has been responded to?

[Biff]

I had a good ride out with a few local KB'ers yesterday (and came across a sheep with suicidal tendancies!). Almost everybody I waved at waved back, apart from the cruiser brigade.

What I have noticed is that far fewer Kiwi's wave back or nod their heads here compared to bikers in the UK, which surprises me. Although bikers do appear to wave back or nod out of town more here than in town.

I've taken to employing the 2 second rule. If I wave and you don't acknowledge my wave, it turns into a 2 finger salute after about 2 seconds. Childish, but hey - I have a fast bike, catch me :sneaky2: :bleh:

[LB]

Hi Mark - did you realise it was us (me on the 1000, Hamish on the R1100S, and Her_B4 on the yellow 748) who waved to you as you were filling up at Mangaweka on Sat morning? We were heading to the Ducati rally at Tokaanu, and we stopped at Taihape (at Cafe Exchange) and you went through heading north as we were on our second latte.

Glad you had a good trip - hope you took a Lotto ticket while your luck was in!!

[Hitcher]

On Saturday when Mrs H and I went to and from Manakau, we must have had close to a 100% strike rate on the waving back front. Maybe everybody loves STs? It's days like that that make all that waving practice really worthwhile!

[MD]

Hi Mark - did you realise it was us (me on the 1000, Hamish on the R1100S, and Her_B4 on the yellow 748) who waved to you as you were filling up at Mangaweka on Sat morning? We were heading to the Ducati rally at Tokaanu, and we stopped at Taihape (at Cafe Exchange) and you went through heading north as we were on our second latte.

Glad you had a good trip - hope you took a Lotto ticket while your luck was in!!
Hamish waved so much I worried he would fall off ! I kept a look out for you after that. So that explains all the Ducatis out of hibernation.
I shouldn't keep sidetracking my own thread but that was the first time I'd ridden Kimbolton to Mangaweka. Stunning scenery, I had to stop every 10 minutes to take in the post card views. On the way home I did the Mangaweka pass again and then cut back west to H/way1 at Ohingaiti then went back east at Vinegar Hill. Perfect roads for the Trumpet. I'll be back that way soon. Good thing about the Trumpet is you can get lost exploring new roads and not have to worry about where the next gas station is.

[Rainbow Wizard]

The officer really was a good guy and accepted that he had tailed me for some time and I was riding fine and it was a slow car that prompted me to pass.MD

Similar thing happened to me, and I appreciated being let off too. Fast IS illegal, but it ain't arbitrarily unsafe. Some riders DO compromise their safety: Stay on your own side of the road fellers, unless you're passing and have sufficient clear rode ahead to do that safely.

[Hitcher]

Good thing about the Trumpet is you can get lost exploring new roads and not have to worry about where the next gas station is.
Reassuring to know that, isn't it!

On Saturday I ran (for the first time) the ST into reserve at 470km. At that point the remaining fuel bar started winking and the fuel consumption display changed from kml to km remaining (estimated). At this stage I was tooling around downtown Wellington (kml would have been about 12) with Mrs H on the rear and was advised of 75km to empty.

So that's about 550km to a tank, plus or minus (definately on the plus side for one-up riding). Any one-litre sporties fancy a "race" to Tauranga and back? At night? In the winter?

[The Preacher]

I ride most weekends between Timaru and Christchurch on my crusier.

Findings:
wave to other crusiers 100% return including H-D's
wave to road bikes approx 95% return

Conclusion: maybe South Island :sunny: riders are more laid back and friendlier

[MD]

Oh that bike is so you Hitcher. That's not a tank range that's the length of a small continent. Must cost a few bucks to fill from empty though. Wait till I show you the high tech fuel controls on the Trumpet. Lets see, there's the On, Reserve, Off tap- yep a trusty old twist tap like our daddies had and a trip meter that you reset by winding round and round and round until all the pretty numbers rotate back to zero. Since it involves lots of finger work I consider it a digital display.

[Hitcher]

Mark, that's 27 litres. You should be able to work out the cost of a fill. It's the first time I've been able to use my Flybuys card when fuelling one bike.

Ordinarily, when riding with Mrs H, I fill when she fills. In Marauder terms that's about every 180km, plus or minus.

Anyway, back to skiting about range... Anybody fancy an overnighter from Wellington to Whangarei with only one allowed fuel stop each way? And no, you're not allowed to take your c.a.r.

Excuse me a moment's joy. It takes my mind off the pain of a wrenched left knee inflicted trying to hold up a toppling ST with a full fuel load, rider and pillion. Estimated descending mass -- 480+kg. Ouch.

[fritter]

I tend to nod more than wave, and get about a 90% return rate... harley riders would be about 1 in 5 - that's an improvement. Once in a while I won't have noticed someone until it's too late, so I expect (with everyone but the harley riders) that maybe they've just been daydreaming and not seen me.

I've stopped nodding or waving to scooter riders unless they do it first though. In about 14 or so years of it, I've had one guy wave at me (this was about 6 months ago) - got such a shock I nearly crashed lol

[Redstar]

Waving is part of the brotherhood thing (or sisterhood thing or dyke oh nevermind thing) I am a compulsive waver and I have been waving at a biker for months going the otherway and finally after months I get one back.

Be consistent I say and way galour. some biker won't return a wave because

1. they don't feel confident enough to release a grip
2. they simply did not see your wave and thought you were rude
3. they are commuting to work and are not in a good frame of mind
4. snobery of two wheel breed (Hitler had a similar view on life)
5. they nod or use some other signal that you don't see
6. Your going 230klms/hr and your doing 230klms/hr and you both wave but that was then and this is now.
7. you have such a subtyle wave that even the FBI would miss it
8. You won't wave til they do (mexican standoff or chicken wave)
9. you flash your lights but there already on
10. your an arrogant non waver
11. there an arrogant non waver
12. there so supprised that you even bothered to wave at Fat lady on Burgman that that need more time to put some make-up on
13 You wave in a gay or ifeminant manner (the salute)
14. you hate life people and bikes you only ride because you cant pass your car test.

Jes that the most crap ive erer written! but im gettin close to 400 posts and tonights the night! :whocares:

[Wolf]

Hmmm, used to get lots of return waves. There was one bloke that I'd see regularly riding his Beemer towards Hamilton on Highway 3 as I was riding to work in Te Awamutu - was practically a morning ritual to greet each other on our way.

Recently tho', got more WTF looks than return waves from other bikers. I'm taking it as an indication of the gradual decline in general politeness - sure sign a society is on the edge of decline - pretty soon all NZers will stop smiling and waving to each other and we'll all be speaking French... :sly:

Still doesn't stop me waving but I tend to mutter "snobby prick" if I don't get a return wave.

[Waylander]

rode out form hamilton twords tauranga and saw plenty of bikers on all sorts of bikes (a few of them looked like some of the bikes ive seen pics of on here not sure though cause i cant find them now) but none of them waved back. i got a few truckers to wave though wich was nice. even had one move out of my way so i can pass him and i waved to him as i went by. maybe we need more bikers that are truckers or something

[LB]

Hmmm, used to get lots of return waves. There was one bloke that I'd see regularly riding his Beemer towards Hamilton on Highway 3 as I was riding to work in Te Awamutu - was practically a morning ritual to greet each other on our way.

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Reminds me.....many, many years ago I used to commute from L/Hutt to Porirua to work. Used to go via Ngarunga Gorge (less distance). Always used to see a guy on an orange XL175 going the other way, round the BP station on the Hutt m/way. We always used to wave, like you say a ritual.

Twice in the 12 or so months I commuted it was such a lovely day I went via the Haywards way instead. You wanna know the freaky thing? So did my mate. Both times. Couldn't believe it......

Never ever did get to meet him....if anyone reading this is him, please get in touch for old time's sake!

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[Stevo]

Hmmm, used to get lots of return waves. There was one bloke that I'd see regularly riding his Beemer towards Hamilton on Highway 3 as I was riding to work in Te Awamutu - was practically a morning ritual to greet each other on our way.

Recently tho', got more WTF looks than return waves from other bikers. I'm taking it as an indication of the gradual decline in general politeness - sure sign a society is on the edge of decline - pretty soon all NZers will stop smiling and waving to each other and we'll all be speaking French... :sly:

Still doesn't stop me waving but I tend to mutter "snobby prick" if I don't get a return wave.

Deece does not hinspire me to ride de Norf Island :killingme

[riffer]

I did a little test myself this morning.

On the way to work along SH2 between the Haywards turnoff and Kennedy-Good bridge, there were three motorcycles going the other way.

Incidentally, they were all motorcycle HP.

One waved back. I guess the other two were so shocked they couldn't work out what to do... :mellow:

[Jantar]

Observations:

1. hardly any riders waved back. ...

3. Best Cop award. ...

Cheers again, you made a great trip even better and I took heed of the warning in appreciation of the shit he could have dumped me in.
MD

On Monday my wife and I did a quick trip from Alex to Mosgiel, then return via Palmerston and the Pig Route. I waved at every bike we passed, and all except one returned the wave. The one who didn't wave back was screaming through a corner at one hell of a lean, and probably didn't feel comfortable at taking a hand off the bars.

We also saw lots of cops, and didn't feel threatened once. A cop at Milton obviously had targeted a truck travelling at around 100 - 105 kph and he was following the truck far too closely for safety. One cop did flash his lights at us just south of Palmerston, and a glance at the speedo showed we were doing 109, so a deserved flash. But no ticket.

[inlinefour]

Reassuring to know that, isn't it!

On Saturday I ran (for the first time) the ST into reserve at 470km. At that point the remaining fuel bar started winking and the fuel consumption display changed from kml to km remaining (estimated). At this stage I was tooling around downtown Wellington (kml would have been about 12) with Mrs H on the rear and was advised of 75km to empty.

So that's about 550km to a tank, plus or minus (definately on the plus side for one-up riding). Any one-litre sporties fancy a "race" to Tauranga and back? At night? In the winter?

I figure that the CBR will be quick enough to make up for the extra fuel stops :bleh:

[Stevo]

I too hope the same with the CBR lol. The big maiden voyage after the BIG rebuild is set for saturday.................... and you are damn right

Ain't nothin better than de Honda

[inlinefour]

I too hope the same with the CBR lol. The big maiden voyage after the BIG rebuild is set for saturday.................... and you are damn right

Ain't nothin better than de Honda

The 600cc would probably be the better option for me, but I think or more to the point, suspect that once I can find one 2nd hand, I'll end up with the CBR1000RR :2thumbsup
However I'd take any advice or suggestions from a 600cc rider :2thumbsup

[Hitcher]

I figure that the CBR will be quick enough to make up for the extra fuel stops
One would hope so. A five-minute fuel stop works out to about 20 minutes off the road. This means that if you are stopping every hour-and-a-half for gas you will have to put at least 20km distance on me, on your rolling average, to break even, assuming that you only stop for five minutes each time. Given that my rolling average won't be much different to yours, and that my seat and riding position are significantly more comfortable all I can say is "Good luck"!

The first bike home in this year's Grand Challenge (1,600km in 24 hours) was a Honda ST1300, in a time of 18 hours (that's a rolling average of 90kmh that included some good winding stretches, such as the back road from Woodwille to Dannevirke, Napier to Gisborne and the Waioeka Gorge (in a hurricane)).

[XP@]

One would hope so. A five-minute fuel stop works out to about 20 minutes off the road. This means that if you are stopping every hour-and-a-half for gas you will have to put at least 20km distance on me, on your rolling average, to break even, assuming that you only stop for five minutes each time. Given that my rolling average won't be much different to yours, and that my seat and riding position are significantly more comfortable all I can say is "Good luck"!

The first bike home in this year's Grand Challenge (1,600km in 24 hours) was a Honda ST1300, in a time of 18 hours (that's a rolling average of 90kmh that included some good winding stretches, such as the back road from Woodwille to Dannevirke, Napier to Gisborne and the Waioeka Gorge (in a hurricane)).
Yup and he kissed his licence bye bye... silly boy, they said it wasn't a race.

Agree with the distance / comfort thing though, riding a 1000 miler on an f650 you pass the sports bikes on their fuel stops, butt stops and cop stops then they pass you like the wind. At the end we arrive at the same time, only one difference the speed tax is nill for the f650 :sunny:

On the wave subject, I assume all riders want to wave but some can and some can't... I still remember in my early days of riding being waved to by a guy on a sport bike who was peg scraping in a hairpin - I was impressed.

[Hitcher]

Yup and he kissed his licence bye bye... silly boy, they said it wasn't a race.
Did Ian lose his licence? Hadn't caught up with that. I knew he had copped two tickets en route though...

[XP@]

I understood he only had a couple of points left at the start of the ride (probably something to do with being first back the year before too), so yup, he lost it.

[ALTRON]

I'll wave to mostly any other rider. But sometimes its not convenient and or safe to do so. Like mid corner, braking. A nod of the head sort of works :)

[gman]

ilve had a few slackers who wtf me but ahwell cant win them all..
got me kb sticker up front for all to see so expecting some more waves????.

[TygerTung]

I was on my commuter the other day CG110, and I waved at a dude on a harley who was passing, he friendly waved back!