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slofox
16th September 2008, 15:28
Pulled up at the supermarket last night on the way home and spotted another bike parked close by....went over to have a gander at it - hadn't seen what sort it was. Quite big from the back - in fact large was the word...looked at the badge - Hyosung 250R.....now for a 250 I thought it was one large bike - made my SV650S look distinctly small....are they as heavy as this one looked or is it just an "ossical confusion"......? What is the dry weight anyway? Can't seem to find that listed.....
MSTRS
16th September 2008, 15:32
The GT250 is 155kg dry...apparently
GSVR
16th September 2008, 15:50
The 250 is the same size as the 650. It uses the same fairings. Just like the SV1000 uses the same fairings as the SV650.
It may even look bigger due to the twin downtubes in the frame.
slofox
16th September 2008, 16:24
The GT250 is 155kg dry...apparently
Is that all? The sv is 169kg and looks way smaller than the hyo....maybe they use more plastic....? or air.... or something....?
glice
16th September 2008, 16:27
na I think they are more like 180ish.
Aa7
16th September 2008, 16:49
yeah there aroung the 180kg mark but they are light and tight to drop in line. the heaviest part on them is teh cast wheels which would make for great boat anchors they weigh so much
Tank
16th September 2008, 16:51
Is that all? The sv is 169kg and looks way smaller than the hyo....maybe they use more plastic....? or air.... or something....?
The difference in weight can be accounted for as follows:
The SV frame is made from metals.
The hobag frame is a combination of rust and playdough with a thin coating of water based paint.
Griffin
16th September 2008, 18:54
The hobag frame is a combination of rust and playdough with a thin coating of water based paint.
Do they actually make them THAT sturdy lol.
Im actually surprised at all the bashing Hyosungs get considering that if the story I have heard about the maker is true, they should be just as good as Suzukis. Hang on... can I hear the wee pitter patter of the Suzuki bashing brigade heading this way???
breakaway
16th September 2008, 19:29
Dry weight is 150 kg according to the Hyosung website and Wikipedia.
http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/product/spec.asp?cat=RoadSports&model=GT250R
mowgli
16th September 2008, 20:02
They must have changed the design - switched from iron to alloy rims perhaps.
McJim
16th September 2008, 20:09
Getting back to the point of the thread the Hyosung 250s do have something in their favour that has been missed by most learner bike manufacturers. A lot of grown men want to start motorcycling but unfortunately get forced to learn on miniature bikes. Hyosung made the leap that just coz there were less cubic centimetres it didn't have to be physically smaller.
I nearly bought a hyosung but a VTR250 came up at a price I couldn't refuse so I suffered cramp in my knees for a year until I passed my full :rofl:
In short. Yes. It's a big 250.
Blackshear
16th September 2008, 20:09
They must have changed the design - switched from iron to alloy rims perhaps.
Thank god, there's a heavier 250 than mine :headbang:
Tank
16th September 2008, 20:57
Hang on... can I hear the wee pitter patter of the Suzuki bashing brigade heading this way???
ahhh - probably not. I think you will find most people agree that the Suzukis are better put together than the HoBags.
No to say that they wont get there - its just that they are a way a ways from it at this point in time.
Griffin
16th September 2008, 23:01
ahhh - probably not. I think you will find most people agree that the Suzukis are better put together than the HoBags.
Better put together? Or is it that they are put together just as well but with inferior materials?
The story I heard was that the company Hyosung was contracted to manufacture Suzukis... which they did for some years until they had the machinery and knowledge in place, enabling them to ditch the Suzuki contract and start making their own bikes. Is this true or is it an old bikers tale?
bomma
16th September 2008, 23:06
the bigger cc version uses the same size frame as someone has already pointed out.....guess size does matter?? :oi-grr:
Tank
17th September 2008, 10:49
Better put together? Or is it that they are put together just as well but with inferior materials?
The story I heard was that the company Hyosung was contracted to manufacture Suzukis... which they did for some years until they had the machinery and knowledge in place, enabling them to ditch the Suzuki contract and start making their own bikes. Is this true or is it an old bikers tale?
I believe that was the case - BUT the difference is the standards that they are put together, the quality control, and as you mentioned materials. There are many many businesses that make several products all of the same type, but widely varying qualities. You can buy a $6500 TV and a $1000 TV that come from the same factory with different badges - BUT the quality will be totally different.
sels1
17th September 2008, 11:00
Getting back to the point of the thread the Hyosung 250s do have something in their favour that has been missed by most learner bike manufacturers. A lot of grown men want to start motorcycling but unfortunately get forced to learn on miniature bikes. Hyosung made the leap that just coz there were less cubic centimetres it didn't have to be physically smaller.
True. For this reason they serve a useful purpose in the marketplace
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