Do you have ID on you..??

[bugjuice]

just thinking about the worst case - you bin it big time, you've knocked yer noggin, and things are a little hazy to say the least, or worst still, you're having an involuntary snooze, and some good samaritan stops to help you out.. Aside from calling 111 and making sure your limbs and head are still attached, they don't really know too much about you, even (dare I say) for going out for cruises with fellow KBs, if something happened, would they know who to call..?

Lately (not cos I want to crash out), I've got a bit of paper with a few details like my name, and the poor family sucker who's going to get the call besides 111, in my outside pocket, hopefully they'll search me for clues and find it (and leave my wallet alone!!).. Just wondered if anyone else did the same, or if I'm being over paranoid here..

[Slipstream]

Yeah I have done something similar when I was younger and going to dance parties a lot and for a similar reason. But your reason is a brilliant one *making mental note*
I need my ID. I still get f**kin ID'd for smokes and booze!! :angry2:

[Biff]

I'm with you matey. My poor wife and neighbour have their contact details alongside my driving licence. I even have a card with my blood group on it.

Better have it and not need it than need it and not have it, I say.

[Slim]

My mum's been telling me to do that for years!!! But I've never quite got around to it. :o

I have a small problem now with new 2-piece leathers only having the 1 internal pocket & the thought of strangers feeling up my tits while they're "looking for ID" officer! ;)

Actually, I should sort something out, because I'm in an interesting family situation. If the cops went searching through official channels, I'm not sure if they'd come up with my foster parents details (they're on my passport, but not sure about the licence) & the thought of them calling Mother is horrendous! :shit:

[Ms Piggy]

I carry my wallet in my jacket with my license etc, etc in it, I also have my best friend and my Aunty's business cards in my wallet with 'Aunty' and 'friend' written on the back.

I realised last night that quite often I don't know where people I ride with live or their last name!

[sAsLEX]

I realised last night that quite often I don't know where people I ride with live or their last name!

Let alone a real name on a large KB ride, only knowing nicks

[Slim]

I've just called the LTSA to find out if emergency contact numbers are on the driver licencing system.

They are not.

Can any of our police officers shed any light on how they go about finding out this information? And if having it on your person is the best way to go or not?

[Slim]

What happens if your jacket is stolen, and you've got keys as well as emergency contact details in there??? Especially for those that would have their partners details, where they live at the same address?

[**R1**]

I always have my cell phone on me...the last crash i had i knocked myself silly(more so than normal) and the guy that helped pick me up asked me who to call i had no idea wot he was even saying....so he went through my pockets grabd cell and rang the first person in my address book(had to be and x-GF) but she told him my name and who to contact, since then i have re-orginised my addressbook so it has AAAA-HOME at the start. but even better dont crash

[Hitcher]

Really good idea. After Saturday week-ago's experience with Mrs H where she was incapable of answering questions, I'm not sure what the ambo dude would have written down had I not been there.

Name, DOB are on your license.
Home contact details may not be.

Information that could usefully be recorded on a card stored next to your license could include:

Blood group
Details of major known allergies
Previous major medical traumas
Contact lens wearer
False teeth wearer
Preference of coffee
Next of kin
Employer
Insurer
Preferred motorcycle servicer/repairer

[bugjuice]

Really good idea. After Saturday week-ago's experience with Mrs H where she was incapable of answering questions, I'm not sure what the ambo dude would have written down had I not been there.

Name, DOB are on your license.
Home contact details may not be.

Information that could usefully be recorded on a card stored next to your license could include:

Blood group
Details of major known allergies
Previous major medical traumas
Contact lens wearer
False teeth wearer
Preference of coffee
Next of kin
Employer
Insurer
Preferred motorcycle servicer/repairer
yup, pretty much spot on to what I was thinking. I haven't got half that stuff (and some bits I don't need yet ;)), but I had thought about including it all.
I guess, like Slim pointed out, should your jacket be stolen or ransacked, you do have some personal info to get there, but I guess you personally have to weigh up the odds of 'what if..' and see which way you feel comfortable doing.
It's a bit of a negative thing to be talkin about, but I just wanted to see what everyone elses views were...

[Sycophant]

In my wallet I have my Driver's licence, I have an NZ Blood Donor card with my blood type on it.

On my cellphone I have 1HOME and 1MEL for home and girlfriend respectively at the top of the list, and also have (rather facetiously) MUMMY for my parents.

I've stopped ot help people in accidents in the past and done the random number from their cellphone thing to find out who to call. It's normally pretty good -- I went to the last dialed numbers and called the first one in there, was his flatmate.

Other information is probably a good idea too.

[NordieBoy]

Blood group
Details of major known allergies
Previous major medical traumas
Contact lens wearer
False teeth wearer
Preference of coffee
Next of kin
Employer
Insurer
Preferred motorcycle servicer/repairer

Preferred oil.

"Make mine a long black and the bike'll have some semi-synth"

[XTC]

Let alone a real name on a large KB ride, only knowing nicks


Easy just use your real name as a nick........ Unless you are WINJA :)

[Sniper]

Thats a damn good idea. I know people have encouraged me to get something like that, but the fact that I have no family or anyone in NZ to contact if I crash kinda makes it just a peice of paper.

Damn

[Sniper]

Easy just use your real name as a nick........ Unless you are WINJA :)

Hehehe, top points for that, hehehe :eek: :buggerd:

[Skunk]

I have a 'home' business card.
Must put blood type on it when I find out what it is... :confused:

[Riff Raff]

Really good idea. After Saturday week-ago's experience with Mrs H where she was incapable of answering questions, I'm not sure what the ambo dude would have written down had I not been there.

She would have been female Unknown UNKNOWN until identified.
Good idea to have ID with you. I have my drivers licence and ambulance ID with me at all times, but a card with who to call and blood group would be a good idea. I'll do it today!

[sels1]

but the fact that I have no family or anyone in NZ to contact if I crash kinda makes it just a peice of paper.

Damn

Thats no good Sniper - have you thought of putting yourself up for adoption?
:) and you are part of the KB family!

[spudchucka]

I've just called the LTSA to find out if emergency contact numbers are on the driver licencing system.

They are not.

Can any of our police officers shed any light on how they go about finding out this information? And if having it on your person is the best way to go or not?
At a crash for instance the first enquiry would be the vehicle regos. They obviously have names and addresses linked to them. A drivers licence or any other document on the victim is an obvious enquiry. The drviers licence system holds addresses but these aren't always kept up to date but its still a good line of enquiry. Police also have access to Telecom phone listings so if an address can be determined the phone number is only a computer transaction away. PDA's, laptop's, cell phones, diaries all contain personal information. I've never had any issues identifying a person killed or injured in a crash, homicides are obviously different because of the offender element and persons covering their tracks.

[Riff Raff]

She would have been female Unknown UNKNOWN until identified.
Good idea to have ID with you. I have my drivers licence and ambulance ID with me at all times, but a card with who to call and blood group would be a good idea. I'll do it today!
Oh yes, and we estimate your age as well - so considering how shitty people look after crashes, we tend to put quite a few years on!!!

[Paul in NZ]

well... What about a registry with a KB numbered sticker on your helmet or a laminated card in your wallet.

The ambo (or who ever) would call a phone number (0800?), voice answers with a welcome message and asks you to push in the number on the sticker or card ie (please enter the 5 digit code) and it will give your name and details plus offer to contact a relative?

I could talk to the Telco's.

Paul N

HEY! What about text the number and it will text the details back! Thats better!

[Sniper]

Thats no good Sniper - have you thought of putting yourself up for adoption?
:) and you are part of the KB family!

Never thought of it, so here I go.

Up for adoption

One ex South African looking for kind, generous home to protect.
I can cook, clean and handle 12 different kinds of weapons. :shifty:

I promise to be low maintenance and contribute my huntings to the table. I like dogs, cats and other small furry creatures to love and cuddle. :hug:
I dislike bad drivers, thieves, carnies and large un-furry animals. :shit:

Please contact Sniper if you wish to take a shot at this once in a lifetime oppertunity (Unless you put me up for adoption again) :confused2

[Sniper]

HEY! What about text the number and it will text the details back! Thats better!


Hey great idea

[bugjuice]

well... What about a registry with a KB numbered sticker on your helmet or a laminated card in your wallet.

The ambo (or who ever) would call a phone number (0800?), voice answers with a welcome message and asks you to push in the number on the sticker or card ie (please enter the 5 digit code) and it will give your name and details plus offer to contact a relative?

I could talk to the Telco's.

Paul N

HEY! What about text the number and it will text the details back! Thats better!

not a bad idea actually.. and I work for a telco.. I'll ask and see what I get back.. If it's a supported idea here, I can ask around at work, see what strings I can pull.

I guess it'd probably have to be a subscribed membership thing, as databases and 0800 numbers don't just grow on trees..

If KB staff (if that's the right word) don't want to be completely associated with it, still might be good as a stand-alone service to offer to all bikers and anyone else who could use the service..

Like I said, if it's supported, I'll ask at work and see what I get back. Hopefully not :blink:

[Hitcher]

I can cook, clean and handle 12 different kinds of weapons.
Hmmm. Remington pie.

[Paul in NZ]

not a bad idea actually.. and I work for a telco.. I'll ask and see what I get back.. If it's a supported idea here, I can ask around at work, see what strings I can pull.

I guess it'd probably have to be a subscribed membership thing, as databases and 0800 numbers don't just grow on trees..

If KB staff (if that's the right word) don't want to be completely associated with it, still might be good as a stand-alone service to offer to all bikers and anyone else who could use the service..

Like I said, if it's supported, I'll ask at work and see what I get back. Hopefully not :blink:

I'll send you the address you can post the royalty cheques too!

Paul N

[Slim]

Lots of useful information...
OK.

What about someone in my situation: Live alone & foster parents would be preferred contact???

[bugjuice]

ok, well after talking thru with a few people at work, we came across a few things which might not be great. There are the usual security problems, and the costs etc. It would be a possible system, but;

then who'd update it -I think a secure website could be set up, which would put the ownership of details on the card holder;

the costs - an annual or monthly subscription fee would probably have to be set up;

the potential abuse of the system - if your card/ID is lost/stolen, someone could call and get your details. There would be no way to know the services from Jimbo who you've pissed off.

Callers' numbers are registered, but without going into it more, we're not sure at the moment, if the number calling can be traced to see who's details are accessed.

Plus, the ultimate 2 questions - 1) who'd trust it when your DL should have your details, and 2) would you pay and use it? If a handful of people use it, it'd be very expensive. If 1,000s used it, it'd be really cheap.

Doesn't have to be bikers either - anyone doing anything who think at one time, they might be in a spot of bother could use it.. surfers, hang-gliding, MTBing, even cagers, if they really wanted.. no limits there.. it's just getting it right and getting it out

[XP@]

Interesting ideas...

I carry a piece of paper in my wallet with clearly readable "emergency contact"
I also have the entry on my phone "Home"

What about an SOS type bracelet or a Dog Tag. (excellent if you have alergies, or other conditions)

Stickers on both sides of the helmet near the chin strap saying "Do NOT REMOVE" are useful.

I think I would prefer to have my beloved informed after I had been picked up. so the call is made by a calm emergency proffesional "he is in a stable condition and has just arrived at the hospital" instead of some passer-by calling and saying "Its a bloody mess, his legs are all over the place what do I do???".

IMHO the dog tags are good because they usually remain under the jacket so it should be the trained first aider who gets to it, they know to save my life before calling family, joe public may not. The helmet sticker is good cos it stops joe public exposing gray matter.

The only better solution would be an onboard satalite phone with an impact detector and gps so when you crash in the wop wops it sends a message to the 111 system with your exact location and severity of impact.

[inlinefour]

just thinking about the worst case - you bin it big time, you've knocked yer noggin, and things are a little hazy to say the least, or worst still, you're having an involuntary snooze, and some good samaritan stops to help you out.. Aside from calling 111 and making sure your limbs and head are still attached, they don't really know too much about you, even (dare I say) for going out for cruises with fellow KBs, if something happened, would they know who to call..?

Lately (not cos I want to crash out), I've got a bit of paper with a few details like my name, and the poor family sucker who's going to get the call besides 111, in my outside pocket, hopefully they'll search me for clues and find it (and leave my wallet alone!!).. Just wondered if anyone else did the same, or if I'm being over paranoid here..

Its all in my wallet as I suspect the Police would hopefully look there :eek5:

[riffer]

I have my wallet in my jacket. It has my Drivers Licence in it.

I also wear a Medic Alert bracelet on my left wrist which quite clearly states "DIABETES ON INSULIN" and a Phone number and ID number so the ambos can find out stuff about my medical condition.

[Lou Girardin]

Really good idea. After Saturday week-ago's experience with Mrs H where she was incapable of answering questions, I'm not sure what the ambo dude would have written down had I not been there.

Name, DOB are on your license.
Home contact details may not be.

Information that could usefully be recorded on a card stored next to your license could include:

Blood group
Details of major known allergies
Previous major medical traumas
Contact lens wearer
False teeth wearer
Preference of coffee
Next of kin
Employer
Insurer
Preferred motorcycle servicer/repairer

Or you could just tattoo all this on your butt.

[bugjuice]

Or you could just tattoo all this on your butt.
what happens when you skid on yer ass for a couple of hundred k's and it gets sanded off..?? :moon:
ouch

[Paul in NZ]

Well if the ID thing is too hard because of theiving arseholes I still think that with 1,500 members KB would have the clout to get something going...

In fact I reckon we could have enough clout for a decent recovery service or insurance discount.

Paul N

[vifferman]

I have a small problem now with new 2-piece leathers only having the 1 internal pocket & the thought of strangers feeling up my tits while they're "looking for ID" officer! ;)
Well, you could have something (phone number stencilled on your helmet?) with the number of someone to call so they could come and feel up your tits while "looking for ID". :laugh:

[Storm]

All sits in my wallet. My army ID card is unmissable so the police or ambos ring them and they can put you through to the relevant people

[Yokai]

Well, you could have something (phone number stencilled on your helmet?) with the number of someone to call so they could come and feel up your tits while "looking for ID". :laugh:

Yeah - You can have my number if you want?! :shifty:

I have in my wallet everything that is needed to steal my identity:
IRD card, US Social Security Card, Cook Island drivers licence, Padi card, Kiwi Driver licence, US Green card (Permanent Resident Card), Donor Card, California drivers license (sic)....

Should be easy enough to pretend you're me... not that you'd want to I suspect!

[spudchucka]

OK.

What about someone in my situation: Live alone & foster parents would be preferred contact???
Electoral roll, missing persons reports, criminal records, medical records, enquiries with neighbours, work contacts, really the possibilities are almost endless.

If they can figure out who you are then they can find someone that knows you very easily.

[Mr Skid]

The only better solution would be an onboard satalite phone with an impact detector and gps so when you crash in the wop wops it sends a message to the 111 system with your exact location and severity of impact.

On this tangent, as well as carrying ID with me, I always make sure I let someone know, or leave a note of my intended route if riding alone on back roads.

I had an incident whereby I wound up at the bottom of a bank, and as it happens I was able to climb up to the road for help.

However if I were incapacitated, I would not have been able to climb back to the road, or call for help (no reception).

In this case, as it was a KB ride, there were a number of people that knew which road I was on, so I would likely have been found. However a causal observer would be unlikely to have spotted me.

For me it's not much different from a boatie lettting someone know when they are due back, so that S&R can be called if they are late.

I also try to pay for fuel purchases with eftpos, so that there is a paper trail of where I've been and when. If I did go missing, then the police would be able to work out roughly how far I could have gone in any direction based upon having a full tank.

[crashe]

hmmm just checked out my wallet which is always on my person.

Drivers License.
Dr's card with all my allergies on the back of it.
Community card and IRD card.
and many other cards with just my name on it.. AA, Foodtown etc etc etc.

So the police can track down my home addy.

My cell ph is also always with me.

Maybe I should put my daughter's name onto card with drivers license...
since she is my next of kin...

But I guess we should at least all carry a name of our next of kin in the wallet.

[Firefight]

On this tangent, as well as carrying ID with me, I always make sure I let someone know, or leave a note of my intended route if riding alone on back roads.

I had an incident whereby I wound up at the bottom of a bank, and as it happens I was able to climb up to the road for help.

However if I were incapacitated, I would not have been able to climb back to the road, or call for help (no reception).

In this case, as it was a KB ride, there were a number of people that knew which road I was on, so I would likely have been found. However a causal observer would be unlikely to have spotted me.

For me it's not much different from a boatie lettting someone know when they are due back, so that S&R can be called if they are late.

I also try to pay for fuel purchases with eftpos, so that there is a paper trail of where I've been and when. If I did go missing, then the police would be able to work out roughly how far I could have gone in any direction based upon having a full tank.


just wear that bloody awful shirt over your leathers, rescuers will see you a mile away.

F/F :rolleyes:

[MadDuck]

One good thing the WIMA rep did (not sure if its just north one) was give us forms that I carry in my wallet. It has details on who to contact should I damage myself and my bike.

It has listed my employer, doctor and dentist (I guess in case they need dental ID :shit:)

The other good detail included is my neighbours contact and the fact that I have a cat that will starve to death if I dont return from a ride. As I live alone and have no family I thought it was a brilliant idea not just for when out riding but should anything happen where I couldnt communicate...like going to the pub and getting so sloshed I cant remember my name!

[James Deuce]

Hmmm. I'm not paranoid, but I'm also not content to sit back and let other people decide what I should carry by way of ID. I won't be travelling when my passport expires, thanks to the introduction of biometric information on passports from this year on. I also won't be renewing my license in 2010 for the same reason. I'll just drive without one like a big chunk of the population seem to now.

Quite frankly, if I do come a cropper on a back road somewhere, I prefer the vanishing without a trace (eaten by border collies and hawks) "legend", to having to gain governmental, personal, parental, spousal, sibling, and spawn -of-my loins permission to go for a ride.

People say to me, "you carry a cellphone so you can be found anywhere within the coverage area". "Yes", I say, "So long as I am IN the coverage area, it's turned on, and mine. It's why I like to have a work provided phone."

The current one has my name on the display, but is billed via someone else's name at work.

[XP@]

I also try to pay for fuel purchases with eftpos, so that there is a paper trail of where I've been and when. If I did go missing, then the police would be able to work out roughly how far I could have gone in any direction based upon having a full tank.
Good, so they know you are somewhere on the north island, useful...
(unless you are on an MV Brutal, then you havent fallen off, you are still filling up at the gas station down the road)

[Wolf]

...
Preference of coffee
...

I hear ya on that one!

I want a "medic alert" bracelet with "Administer Latte with three sugars"

If even semi-conscious, a cigarette would probably be the other important thing.

In my early days I had a pocket organiser that had a card for contact details. As it was written for the US market, it had "State" amongst the address details.

My Emergency Contact was listed as my mother and under "State" I wrote "Hysterical" (Well, phone my mum and tell her I've arsed off the bike and you'd see what I mean...)

Great thread, it's got me thinking I should carry contact details (if only a phone number - to avoid people finding my street address in the same pocket as my house keys...) even though I'm currently not riding - we can still get clobbered and rendered non compos mentis crossing the street (and walking down the footpath, the way some cagers drive).

[XP@]

I also try to pay for fuel purchases with eftpos, so that there is a paper trail of where I've been and when. If I did go missing, then the police would be able to work out roughly how far I could have gone in any direction based upon having a full tank.
Good, so they know you are somewhere on the north island, useful...
(unless you are on an MV Brutal, then you havent fallen off, you are still filling up at the gas station down the road)

[Jackrat]

In my wallet I have my drivers licence,fire arms licence,ATM card,Company credit card,RUC card,Caltex fuel Card,Bike Reg'o an WOF.
Plus a card with contact details for my Mrs,Mother,inlaws,an blood type.
If I get rolled my life goes on hold for a couple of days. :spudwhat:

[Mr Skid]

Good, so they know you are somewhere on the north island, useful...
(unless you are on an MV Brutal, then you havent fallen off, you are still filling up at the gas station down the road)

Wow! I've heard rumors about these mythical 15 year old 250 multi's that'll get 600km from a tank, but I've always thought they were old wives tales :unsure:

[MD]

Interesting thread and like some of you the thought has gone through my head when out riding "what if I don't return from this ride" what happens, who tells the family.... And when the family was away once I had the same thought as someone said earlier -who would feed my dog!
Last year the Missus and kids pull up our drive when I was out riding to see a police car and Policewoman waiting up the drive. Needless to say the Wife's heart sank like never before and worse the little Uns cried out "Dad" and got upset.
Turned out they were just making door to door enquiries over a burglary but that was one hell of a fright for Her Indoors and ever since I send home short texts when out for long rides. Certainly made me do some soul searching about the "what if .."

[Holy Roller]

Just got a new wallet so a great time for a clean out.
Have to have the drivers licence at all times been caught out a few times without one on me, (in the work trou officer) Gun licence and Ulysses ID, St John first aid card. The cops just run my plates and already know who I am.

[Waylander]

got my licence and a card with a few contact numbers for my flat my sister and my mum thats about it for me. i keep everything in my wallet and no money in it so if they feel like thievin there aint nothin there i keep my eftpos card elsewhere

[spudchucka]

ILast year the Missus and kids pull up our drive when I was out riding to see a police car and Policewoman waiting up the drive. Needless to say the Wife's heart sank like never before and worse the little Uns cried out "Dad" and got upset.
Turned out they were just making door to door enquiries over a burglary but that was one hell of a fright for Her Indoors and ever since I send home short texts when out for long rides. Certainly made me do some soul searching about the "what if .."
I get that almost everytime I knock on a door or make a phone call, some poor bugger thinks their next of kin has gone tits up. I guess its a ntural reaction for people to think the worst and you get used to people looking at you as if you are there to tell them their first born has been boiled in a broth and eaten by a gang of six fingered banjo players.

[Slipstream]

ever since I send home short texts when out for long rides. Certainly made me do some soul searching about the "what if .."

Definitely the way to make the loved ones at home know that you are OK, when out and about :D :first:

[XP@]

Solution to all problems...

https://www.star-traxx.com/

ideal for the paranoid spouse

[Slim]

A Cambridge-based (UK) paramedic has launched a national campaign with Vodafone to encourage people to store emergency contact details in their mobile phones.``Bob Brotchie, a clinical team leader for the East Anglian Ambulance NHS Trust, hatched the plan last year after struggling to get contact details from shocked or injured patients.

By entering the acronym ICE – for In Case of Emergency – into the mobile’s phone book, users can log the name and number of someone who should be contacted in an emergency.

The idea follows research carried out by Vodafone that shows more than 75 per cent of people carry no details of who they would like telephoned following a serious accident.``Bob, 41, who has been a paramedic for 13 years, said: “I was reflecting on some of the calls I’ve attended at the roadside where I had to look through the mobile phone contacts struggling for information on a shocked or injured person.

“It’s difficult to know who to call. Someone might have “mum” in their phone book but that doesn’t mean they’d want them contacted in an emergency.``“Almost everyone carries a mobile phone now, and with ICE we’d know immediately who to contact and what number to ring. The person may even know of their medical history.”

The campaign was launched this week by Bob and Falklands war hero Simon Weston in association with Vodafone’s annual Life Savers Awards.

Vodafone spokesperson Ally Stevens said: “The Life Savers Awards already demonstrate, through practical example, the important role a mobile phone can play when minutes matter in an emergency.``“By adopting the ICE advice, your mobile will now also help the rescue services quickly contact a friend or relative – which could be vital in a life or death situation.”

The campaign is also asking people to think carefully about who will be their ICE partner - with helpful advice on who to choose - particularly if that person has to give consent for emergency medical treatment.

Bob hopes that all emergency services will promote ICE in their area as part of a national awareness campaign to highlight the importance of carrying next of kin details at all times.

He said the idea was for the benefit of loved ones as well as the patient.

“Research suggests people recover quicker from the psychological effects of their loved one being hurt if they are involved at an earlier stage and they can reach them quickly," he added.

He said he hoped mobile phone companies would now build the ICE contact into future models, adding: "It's not a difficult thing to do. As many people say they carry mobile phones in case of an emergency, it seems natural this information should be kept there."

[NC]

Most of the time I don't even carry my licence :weird:
Not that really concerned about myself, just everyone else around me.

[Big Dave]

I get that almost everytime I knock on a door


Not me mate - I say 'bugger - what's Jnr done now?'

[skidMark]

what if they make a standard thing so you have your details built into the inside of your helmet somewhere or something and make it so everyone knows it's there like members of public because thats a place that will be the same on everyonce even though if they can't take your helmet off it could make it difficult but at least then it would be the same place for everyone and people would know where to look instead of like searching you because your helmet is always on you when ur riding it's the one thing that you could put info in to make it consistant or maybe even on the outside but i spose you don't want everyone knowing your details lol id say have a way of getting it put into your helmet because if it was on your gear everyones gear is different so it wouldnt be consistant where as if it's in your helmet thats a piece of gear which is pretty much same for everyone....just a thought?

[Slim]

Jeez Mark! You need to stop & take a breath every now & then! :gob: Using one of these: . : every now & then will make your ideas a bit easier to absorb. ;)

[skidMark]

yer lol but i made to much work for myself.... trying to type with 1 hand and i usally mainly use my left hand cus i can't touch type to save myself ....yer i need to start using paragraphs:P

[Bonez]

Hmmm I don't know who I am until I go for a decent m/c ride and find myself..... :ride:

[Ixion]

Hmmm I don't know who I am until I go for a decent m/c ride and find myself..... :ride:

You have that problem too? I've been riding round for years trying to find myself, but I never have. I did see myself going the other way once, but by the time I stopped and turned round he'd gotten to far in front of me, and I couldn't catch myself up. Twasn't helped that myself was a much better rider than either I am or me is.

[Bonez]

You have that problem too? I've been riding round for years trying to find myself, but I never have. I did see myself going the other way once, but by the time I stopped and turned round he'd gotten to far in front of me, and I couldn't catch myself up. Twasn't helped that myself was a much better rider than either I am or me is.Yip tis very unnerving not finding oneself after having gone to the effort of trying to do so but I must be somewhere ah? I blame the aliens-you have to blame someone ah? They've taken myself and hidden it somewhere, the end of the rainbow maybe, who nows. Every now and again I see another self but it wasn't me or I. :whistle:

[Zed]

...if something happened, would they know who to call..?

Lately (not cos I want to crash out), I've got a bit of paper with a few details like my name, and the poor family sucker who's going to get the call besides 111, in my outside pocket, hopefully they'll search me for clues and find it (and leave my wallet alone!!).. Just wondered if anyone else did the same, or if I'm being over paranoid here..Whenever I am riding I carry my licence and my cellphone on my person. If I should have a mishap then I'm confident that anyone with half a brain could find out who to call by matching up my surname with my next of kin listed in my celly address book.

While I think that writing out your details on a separate bit of paper is a good idea, I do think it borders on mild paranoia! :confused:

Keep the rubber side down! :niceone:

[Beemer]

This got me thinking about what I actually have on me when riding - and the cellphone is probably the only thing that would be of any help. I don't always carry my wallet or keys - it depends on whether I think I'll need petrol while I'm out and if someone is home when I go. Trouble is, if they rang HOME, during the week they'd get the answer phone because I'm usually the only one there during the day. I have my business cards in my wallet so they may be able to figure out who I am, but they only have my home and mobile numbers on them because I work from home. Usually people have speed dial numbers so if they rang two or three from my phone they'd get either my mother or my husband, so fingers crossed they'd choose the right one!

As for what I carry in my wallet, I'm amazed at the amount of crap that's in there right now - credit card, eftpos card, Fly Buys card, Farmers store and beauty club cards, Animates card (pet shop), AA card, Moore Wilsons, Ezibuy, Dymocks, Kodak, United Video and various shop discount cards, licence, IFJ Press card, union card, BMWOR card, wedding photo, stamps (NZ and Aussie!) and about $2.50 in change.

Thankfully I've only been in one serious crash and as my name was painted on the side window of the rally car I was codriving in when we crashed, it would have been pretty easy to tell who I was even if I wasn't conscious!

[Zed]

Unless you are WINJA :)Do you think he has something to hide? Or are you just sure that no-one would want him to identify himself? :clap:

[Skyryder]

All I carry is cell phone and licence. Blood type is not a bad idea and should be on licence info as of 'choice.' Years ago I used to carry my doctors surgery phone number. I tend to think that that is better in case of accidents than personal info where someone might ring with all the best of intentions and say the wrong thing.


Skyryder

PS If any one wants their blood type just go and donate some blood. They will tell you what you are.

[Zed]

This got me thinking about what I actually have on me when riding - and the cellphone is probably the only thing that would be of any help. I don't always carry my wallet or keys You do carry your licence separately from your wallet during those rides don't you?

Anyway, it also got me thinking more, and after going back and 'reading the whole thread through' I see there's quite a few testimonies from riders who were involved directly or indirectly in these scenarios and most if not all times a contact could be established from the scene. :2thumbsup It seems we are doing something right!


Thankfully I've only been in one serious crash and as my name was painted on the side window of the rally car I was codriving in when we crashed, it would have been pretty easy to tell who I was even if I wasn't conscious!Lol, I hope you weren't injured too bad Beemer! :doctor:

[Zed]

Information that could usefully be recorded on a card stored next to your license could include:

Blood group
Details of major known allergies
Previous major medical traumas
Contact lens wearer
False teeth wearer
Preference of coffee
Next of kin
Employer
Insurer
Preferred motorcycle servicer/repairerHey Hitcher, being a man of your *experience* (& wisdom, knowledge, and understanding of course) would you be an advocate of a National or International form of Identity where all this info is stored in one accessible location? An implanted micro-chip maybe?

From: http://www.avidmicrochip.com/answer.htm
http://www.avidmicrochip.com/AccentQ.gifWhat kinds of items could be identified with a chip?



http://www.avidmicrochip.com/AccentA.gifThe microchip is already being used, along with a certificate of authenticity, for valuable antiques, framed art and carvings. Anything that is personally valuable, from the unique work of an artist, to your favorite gun, or that antique clock, can be microchipped to prove origin and authenticity.



Note how there is no mention on the site even hinting at such technology for human use! Do you know why not? :nono:

[Beemer]

Um, no, my licence is in my wallet so sometimes I head off and leave my wallet behind - and the phone number written into my jacket is about six years old! I should get into the habit of carrying my licence with me, but we have a variety of cars and bikes and I'd probably leave it in one of the cars and then not have any idea where it was!

The car was a write-off Zed, but the only injuries I received were a small cut on the little finger of my left hand, and a massive bruise on the underneath of my upper arm where it came into contact with the window frame as we barrell-rolled three or four times down the road. Not something I'd recommend - we were driving with the windows down as the turbo was playing up and the car was stinking hot inside - so when we rolled, there was nothing to keep my arm inside the car. VERY lucky I didn't suffer the same sort of injuries Owen Evans did. It didn't put me off rallying, although I had to get a new driver as his car wasn't going anywhere for a long time!

[Zed]

Um, no, my licence is in my wallet so sometimes I head off and leave my wallet behind - and the phone number written into my jacket is about six years old! I should get into the habit of carrying my licence with me, but we have a variety of cars and bikes and I'd probably leave it in one of the cars and then not have any idea where it was!I own one black leather wallet which holds all my 'cards' and very little cash. When I go riding, because of the size of my wallet I remove the neccessary cards from wallet & pluck them into my one-piece leathers/jacket pocket, hardly notice they're there! Easy peasy Beemer, the key is remembering where you keep your wallet (in your case purse) and then emptying your pockets once you return home to again place the 'cards' back in their resting place! :hug:


The car was a write-off Zed, but the only injuries I received were a small cut on the little finger of my left hand, and a massive bruise on the underneath of my upper arm where it came into contact with the window frame as we barrell-rolled three or four times down the road. Not something I'd recommend - we were driving with the windows down as the turbo was playing up and the car was stinking hot inside - so when we rolled, there was nothing to keep my arm inside the car. VERY lucky I didn't suffer the same sort of injuries Owen Evans did. It didn't put me off rallying, although I had to get a new driver as his car wasn't going anywhere for a long time!Yes, you had a narrow escape from that one!

[myvice]

Full I.D. blood type, contacts ect is a very good idear... Better than this:
Very late to see girl friend,
she rings cell phone,
cop answers phone,
very bad news,
True story.
I dont want that happening to my family again.

Now I have to admit that needles scare me, a lot.
I can jump out of planes and do all sorts of other "If this goes wrong I'm fucked" type fun things, but needles? na. Dont want to know...
So hows this, we all get together in our main citys, do the big public ride bit and donate some blood?
Good for the bike image, good for us, good for them, and we find out what type we are.
And if I'M gunna do it then there wont be any reasons that YOU cant do it.

[Wolf]

These days everyone has a "Hospital number" - ID code - on their medical records. If we carried that on a card in our wallet it would be handy for both identification and to ensure that the ER staff have access to our records by the time we're wheeled in the door.

I like the idea of having some form of ID card fitted inside the helmet and the public being aware of it - providing those who arrive at the scene can find your head...

[bugjuice]

Going from that I.C.E. idea, I've put on my phone 'a I.C.E. Ashley' and 'aa I.C.E. 2 Kelly' as first and second choice on the cell phone. I think everyone should do that.. Just means that when you get a text/call from that person, they come up as 'aa ICE......' instead of their name, but I can get used to that..

[750Y]

I carry a small mirror with me at all times as ID. it's mostly so's i can check my form, but when the cop says "can i see your id?" i say "yeah, here's it is, im a fuckwit! have a look", "everything seems to be in order" says the cop & lets me off.
(j/k) i'm bored & going demented with no bike.

[placidfemme]

I carry my Drivers license in my pocket EVERY time I ride... other than that if something happened to me, they'd have to dig into my bag to find my mobile (I don't keep on my person as I was told to keep your pockets as empty as possible when riding incase you fall off there is less chance of being hurt... like having a mobile phone in a front top jacket pocket could cause broken ribs... e.t.c)

[Wolf]

i'm bored & going demented with no bike.
Know that feeling.

so the cops don't just look at your "ID" and say, "sorry, didn't realise you were a cop" and let you go?

[Beemer]

You must have an old brick of a mobile phone, Placidfemme, if it is likely to break your ribs if you come off! :rofl: I usually keep mine in a lower pocket, or in a back pack if I am wearing one, but you'd have to land in a pretty weird way to do your ribs in. And you must have VERY high ribs if a phone in a top pocket would snag them!

I try to keep hard/sharp objects away from me but most phones are pretty little and so is my mini camera. You'd be more likely to do yourself an injury hitting the tank or bars!

[placidfemme]

You must have an old brick of a mobile phone, Placidfemme, if it is likely to break your ribs if you come off! :rofl: I usually keep mine in a lower pocket, or in a back pack if I am wearing one, but you'd have to land in a pretty weird way to do your ribs in. And you must have VERY high ribs if a phone in a top pocket would snag them!

I try to keep hard/sharp objects away from me but most phones are pretty little and so is my mini camera. You'd be more likely to do yourself an injury hitting the tank or bars!

That makes sense... I have one of those sharp flip open thingys that david beckham advertised... they SUCK... the aereal stabs you no matter which pocket you put it in :(

95% of the time I ride with a backpack... if I don't have my backpack then I put what I can under my seat... when that fails I use my one large pocket on my pants...

*used to have a brick phone*

[Eurygnomes]

I guess it'd probably have to be a subscribed membership thing, as databases and 0800 numbers don't just grow on trees..

Surely someone like the AA would support it?

Oh - and Sky - some of us aren't allowed to donate blood. Either we're too much in need of it ourselves, or we're verging on metamorphosing into crazed, four-legged, horned herbivores instead from having lived in the UK from 1981 - 86 and possibly consumed beef.

[bugjuice]

Surely someone like the AA would support it?
I did look into it, having a few contacts myself.
The cost would be pretty big, the logistics would need a lot of work, and it'd need to be pretty popular pretty fast, and that just doesn't seem to be the case. Needs to be thousands of users, not just a couple of hundred here.. Shame tho..

[trev]

So you can it the phone takes a knock ... moves the battery etc. turns the phone off need password to get in.
What use is the info on the phone ??

[Zapf]

I have a mate that prints ID cards for clubs and airports for a living.... if there is enough interest I could hit him up for a sample. Cost will depends on how many colors and if its laminated or not.

can I have a gauge of interest?

[2_SL0]

I have a mate that prints ID cards for clubs and airports for a living.... if there is enough interest I could hit him up for a sample. Cost will depends on how many colors and if its laminated or not.

can I have a gauge of interest?


Does he print licences, I would like a spare with someone elses name on it. :yes: :whistle:

[Wolf]

Does he print licences, I would like a spare with someone elses name on it. :yes: :whistle:
Can we choose the name on the licence?

In seriousness. A decent ID card for the wallet with useful "in case of emergency" data would be handy - better than the hastily made, written by hand, things I've had in the past.