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Bonmaklad
18th September 2008, 09:29
ok silly questions time.....

when you are on a normal road what gear you in? what gives you the most control

how much is too much rain? I rode in auckland this morning and last night didn't really care too much about it to be honest but when I changed down gear the back slid out once or twice.

going around corners, when you lean is there anything you should "feel" for when you have leaned too much and your about to go over?

how many Kms do you do to a tank and how big is your tank?

probably more questions coming, but since I know NO ONE who rides even a moped your stuck with me.

CB ARGH
18th September 2008, 09:41
Umm, every bike is differently geared. Some can only do 50km, some can do 400km. I prefer to be in the gear that can give me a bit of power if I need it, however it is also good if it's not roaring the living shit out of it on a basic straight.

I rode last night and this morning, I can't say I've had rain where I wish I didn't go out in. Every day is a good day for a ride, you've just got to be more aware of the dangers and take more time doing things (like corners, roundabouts, and allowing more time for braking.

You should feel the skin on your kneecaps wearing down, that is what you should feel if you are too leaned over.

13L, get around 220-240km a tank when cruising between 90-109.

fizbin
18th September 2008, 09:48
ok silly questions time.....
when you are on a normal road what gear you in? what gives you the most control
ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time) Live by it


how much is too much rain? I rode in auckland this morning and last night didn't really care too much about it to be honest but when I changed down gear the back slid out once or twice.

just take it easy in the rain untilyou get your feet. If you have the Stock Shinlko tyres on the Hoybag than def take it easy they are not great in the wet. But in saying that i have ridden for most of this winter on them and only recently changed them to a better tyre.


going around corners, when you lean is there anything you should "feel" for when you have leaned too much and your about to go over?

This will come with time. take it slow to start and get you head for the bike before you throw the bike at a corner at 45deg +


how many Kms do you do to a tank and how big is your tank?

you should get around 400-450 from you tank that is what i get from mine.

Try getting yourself to the NASS and get some skills
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=77111

Bonmaklad
18th September 2008, 09:54
yeah i don't like being in fifth to be honest! I do like being in 3rd but I think when i reach 80 it's a bit too noisy.... well then again i think i'm in third!

well i've got a 4 stroke and apprently 17 litre tank and i've done 300k with still a 1/4 of a tank left, so thats good then i think.

oh ok so when going around corners it's just your own confidance that stops you going down. I find myself slowing down to the Recommended speed around corners so i don't have to lean much :whistle:

I May actually upgrade tyres and brakes just because i always worrk about stock wheels.

Quasievil
18th September 2008, 09:57
ok silly questions time.....

when you are on a normal road what gear you in? what gives you the most control

how much is too much rain? I rode in auckland this morning and last night didn't really care too much about it to be honest but when I changed down gear the back slid out once or twice.

going around corners, when you lean is there anything you should "feel" for when you have leaned too much and your about to go over?

how many Kms do you do to a tank and how big is your tank?

probably more questions coming, but since I know NO ONE who rides even a moped your stuck with me.

If youre changing down a gear and the back slides out you are changing down to far.As an example, dont change into first until you have stopped.
In the wet take every thing smoother and slower, brake earlier and prepare for stops earlier.
best Advise is to take it easy mate, dont do anything in a hurry and take your time, youre a newbie so start slow to get your confidence is up a bit.
Contact a Mentor like Frosty or the Stranger to take you out for a few hours, you will learn heaps and WILL improve your riding style

dipshit
18th September 2008, 10:00
when I changed down gear the back slid out once or twice.

You mean you have a slide just as you change down?

WolveNZ
18th September 2008, 10:10
ok silly questions time.....

when you are on a normal road what gear you in? what gives you the most control

how much is too much rain? I rode in auckland this morning and last night didn't really care too much about it to be honest but when I changed down gear the back slid out once or twice.

going around corners, when you lean is there anything you should "feel" for when you have leaned too much and your about to go over?

how many Kms do you do to a tank and how big is your tank?

probably more questions coming, but since I know NO ONE who rides even a moped your stuck with me.

Have you by any chance been on a coarse? you have a license? maybe you should have got a scooter... be unfortunate to see you show up as another statistic...

Hitcher
18th September 2008, 10:24
ok silly questions time.....
Ooh goodie! I LOVE silly questions.

when you are on a normal road what gear you in? what gives you the most control
There is no such thing as a normal road. If the bike stalls when you're starting, try a lower gear. If the engine is revving really hard and you're not going particularly quickly, either try a higher gear or overtake the vehicle in front that your front wheel is pushing against.

how much is too much rain? I rode in auckland this morning and last night didn't really care too much about it to be honest but when I changed down gear the back slid out once or twice.
Too much rain is when you need either a snorkel or an aqualung, or when your bike has been washed away.

going around corners, when you lean is there anything you should "feel" for when you have leaned too much and your about to go over?
When you feel the road, you've probably leaned over a bit too far. Scaping noises and becoming separated from your bike should provide some other clues.

how many Kms do you do to a tank and how big is your tank?
My tank is like really big and I do lots of km on it. I reckon my tank is way bigger than yours. And my dad is a policeman too.

Bend-it
18th September 2008, 10:25
ok silly questions time.....

when you are on a normal road what gear you in? what gives you the most control



ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time) Live by it


Haha... I think he's asking 1st, 2nd, 3rd gear etc... :rofl:

Yeah, I like to keep the revs around the bike's powerband, usually abit lower as I don't like a busy sounding engine, and my bike has lots of torque to pick up and go anyway.

For your gt250r, I'd say 2nd gear if doing 30 - 40kph, 3rd for 50 - 60kph around town, then 5th gear on the motorway if you're moving around traffic abit, accelerating and decelerating etc... Top gear if you're just cruising along.

Ditto the previous post that said stay in the gear that gives you good acceleration or engine braking if you need it. Hope this helps.



how much is too much rain? I rode in auckland this morning and last night didn't really care too much about it to be honest but when I changed down gear the back slid out once or twice.


If it's flooded above your exhaust pipe or air intake, that's too much. Otherwise, just adjust your riding style to suit. When you change down, try to blip the throttle before releasing the clutch to match engine speeds so the engine braking doesn't come on suddenly. It takes practice, so do that on dry days. :)



going around corners, when you lean is there anything you should "feel" for when you have leaned too much and your about to go over?


The road on your elbow! Haha! There are so many ways of going over and you'd feel different things for each... Most bikes and tyres can handle more than their riders throw at them. Most low side bins happen when people panic and give up. You can prevent this by progressing slowly, just push a little more each time. Doing this on the same corner each time help, so you know how fast you can do it and how low you can lean in what conditions. When your ability starts to exceed the bike's, you'll know the feeling of starting to lowside... :doctor:



how many Kms do you do to a tank and how big is your tank?

probably more questions coming, but since I know NO ONE who rides even a moped your stuck with me.

Depends hugely on what bike and how you ride. I get about 240kms from 13 litres of petrol. 650 twin, mostly commuting, afew blats now and then.

My previous 900 inline 4 used to do 200kms from 16 litres, same riding style.

Before that, my 250 inline 4 drank about the same rate as my current bike

And even before that (and the doinosaurs), my 50cc 2-stroke used about $5 a week, so I never bothered to keep track! haha!

Don't worry about the silly questions. People must learn somehow... In the future, maybe pop them in the "Newbie" thread (no shame posting there mate, I still do sometimes), AFTER doing a search and not finding your answer. :scooter:

Bend-it
18th September 2008, 10:28
Have you by any chance been on a coarse? you have a license? maybe you should have got a scooter... be unfortunate to see you show up as another statistic...

Don't be a tosser... sincere newby asking hoest questions... weren't we all there once?


Ooh goodie! I LOVE silly questions.

try a higher gear or overtake the vehicle in front that your front wheel is pushing against.

Too much rain is when you need either a snorkel or an aqualung, or when your bike has been washed away.

When you feel the road, you've probably leaned over a bit too far. Scaping noises and becoming separated from your bike should provide some other clues.

My tank is like really big and I do lots of km on it. I reckon my tank is way bigger than yours. And my dad is a policeman too.

You're a crack up Hitch!! :) :Punk:

slimjim
18th September 2008, 10:35
sorry :msn-wink:....there aren't nooo silly question's.........
however pay very good attention to most threads posted to
your question's
as almost all here on this site will offer alot of honset thought's
as riding is apart of living with enjoyment'......
and we most
wishingly want you to have this''
......................................
thats all i've got to say about that..............:niceone:

sinfull
18th September 2008, 10:59
sorry :msn-wink:....there aren't nooo silly question's.........
......................................
thats all i've got to say about that..............:niceone:
Like Jim said there aint no silly Q's
Use the search function at the top right and try different key words for a while ! The info you will find in here will have you reading for days !
Meanwhile ride to yr limits, if you feel your over too far = you are !
wet weather is just that, wet, if you haven't tested your tires limits braking in the wet = do so in a carpark and see what happens (whole new ball game on white lines)
Sliding when changing down = hard on gear and loss of traction (called backing it into a corner) Some good videos of racers backing it in on here also !
Have fun stay alert and you'll be fine

Here is a link to a fine example of backing it in ! (don't try this at home kiddies)
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=81581

WolveNZ
19th September 2008, 10:27
[QUOTE=Bend-it;1734421]Don't be a tosser... sincere newby asking hoest questions... weren't we all there once?




Tosser? :blink: the point i was making is go take a coarse. the roads today are not the place to be learning, questions he is asking would be covered under basic bike handling , for sure ask away but if he is honestly asking those sorts of questions the he shouldnt be on the road JUST YET...

And the fact the poor guy just . binned it ..... says it all.

EJK
19th September 2008, 11:25
Yeah just remember, we all LOVE Silly Questions :first:



.......And most definite happy to answer them too! :niceone:

Kiwi Graham
19th September 2008, 11:27
Bonmaklad, get youself over to the mentors page and find one nearest to you and have a 'meet up' all these questions and more will become clear in just a few inspiring moments. 'Dont be shy give it a try' :2thumbsup You will learn alot in a short space of time and you'll get to meet someone that rides a bike too!

Ixion
19th September 2008, 14:53
ok silly questions time.....

when you are on a normal road what gear you in? what gives you the most control

how much is too much rain? I rode in auckland this morning and last night didn't really care too much about it to be honest but when I changed down gear the back slid out once or twice.

going around corners, when you lean is there anything you should "feel" for when you have leaned too much and your about to go over?

how many Kms do you do to a tank and how big is your tank?

probably more questions coming, but since I know NO ONE who rides even a moped your stuck with me.

Better to ask than crash through ignorance.

What gear to be in will depend very much on the bike. But a general rule of thumb is whatever keeps the tacho needle between one third and two thirds of redline.

Rain, it happens. There are various considerations. Visibility: Heavy rain can make it hard to see. Slow down if necessary and if it's realy bad don't hesitate to find some place of shelter and wait for it to ease. There are various tricks that can help; turning your head sideways will help blow water off the visor; if your visor is fogging, crack it open just a tiny bit; in really bad rain you may be better to open your visor, push your helmet forward and tilt your head forward so you are looking upward. Traction: Heavy rain is actually less of a problem for traction than light rain after a dry spell. The heavy rain washes the crap off the road. Are you blipping the throttle when changing down? That's quite important on a V twin, even a small one, and should prevent rear wheel lockup.

On a dry road it is almost impossible for you to lean too far (though parts of the bike may begin to scrape). If you do lean too far, you may roll off the tread part of the tire. This is a fairly noticeable feeling sort of a dip and lurch. In the wet you can (maybe, if on low quality tyres) lean too far. If you do you will feel the back start to slip - impossible to describe but immediately obvious when it happens. If this happens DO NOT BRAKE OR BACK OFF THE THROTTLE. That is *REALLY* important. Keep a steady throttle, lift the bike a wee bit and adjust your line. I repeat though, at this stage it is very unlikely (unless you are a squid) that you will lean too far.

Patrick
19th September 2008, 16:11
Ooh goodie! I LOVE silly questions.

There is no such thing as a normal road. If the bike stalls when you're starting, try a lower gear. If the engine is revving really hard and you're not going particularly quickly,

Putting it in gear helps too Hitch....

Tank
19th September 2008, 16:27
I reckon my tank is way bigger than yours.

Hitcher - One date does not make me "your Tank".