My first bin

[Bonmaklad]

Ok so had my first "Bin" as you guys call it, to be honest it only happened half an hour ago so not feeling too good, so please be nice.

People Wagon in front of me goes left with no indicator or brake, i was behind, i didn't accelerate but in front of him was a stationary car.... I broke the bike and me did a low slide.

indicator gone, wind mirror gone, the bobble bit you push down the gear went, handle bars crooked and the whole left hand side scratched to peices.

me well I feel fooked but to be honest I was expecting a lot worse, protection did me well not a mark on me. Helmet buggered now though.

what did I do wrong? followed to closely? broke too hard? should of just followed the people mover?

[Bonmaklad]

oh and a big shout out to kumeu mechanics who pulled me and the bike off of the road and helped me ride it to work! Legends!

[Guided_monkey]

Bugger...... probably a bit hard on the front brakes in the wet. Front wheel locks up and the road comes up and meets you.

When riding it is very important to maintain situation awareness.... try to look further up the road so you can anticipate these things..... unfortunately experience is the key to this.

A lesson learnt and nothing hurt but plastic and your pride. Good luck for the repairs. :headbang:

[scorry]

i would recommend a ride right course run by bronz up there.
i went on one down here and even tho i had been riding for ages i still learnt heaps, if you dont learn anything its good practise.

[Hitcher]

Make contact with a Kiwi Biker Mentor, and learn some tips on how to ride to different road and traffic conditions.

[Bonmaklad]

yeah I was waiting till better weather and more money to get a few courses in. well now i'll be putting more money in repairs, anyone know how much this will cost? i mean the paint work?

i thought that. thing is that happens all the time when i'm driving and normally I just brake or get out of the way, this time i was fooked don't know what happened, must be two wheels. I need some stablisers.

[Bonmaklad]

funny thing is though I sortta saw it coming. everything with getting a license is the same.

failed theory once
passed practical first time
first week crash.

.... this has been three times now, car UK, car NZ, bike NZ haha

[mokomoa112]

get a mentor bro

[AndyOnTheFlyingBrick]

Glad your ok, as said above, it all comes with experience with reading the road ahead etc.

lesson learned so hope the bike gets sorted quickly!

[Macktheknife]

Really glad you are ok, and wearing the gear.
Let me second the thoughts of others above, get a mentor.
Also, situational awareness was mentioned, you should be looking 8-12 seconds ahead of where you are, and watching your current space as well.
If you had been, you probably would have seen the staionary car, worked out that the other vehicle was going to need to avoid it, prepared for his action (or inaction) and had a couple of options for where to go if either of those things happened.

Bear in mind this is not a dig at you, but if you have noticed a pattern of crashing things (cars bike etc) in new situations, wouldn't it make sense to do something different to what you have been?

Good luck with the repairs and big ups to the guys who helped you out.

[Sidewinder]

the mormons would be good mentors

[MarkH]

People Wagon in front of me goes left with no indicator or brake, i was behind, i didn't accelerate but in front of him was a stationary car.... I broke the bike and me did a low slide.

what did I do wrong? followed to closely? broke too hard? should of just followed the people mover?

My guess is "followed to closely". If you had been further back you would have seen the people mover go left and the stationary car and you would have had time to slow and go around the car.

It sounds like you are new to riding and don't have much money - once you get your bike going why don't you start with: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=77111

[bastardsquad]

I just looked at your bike in the driveway...funny, when i read your post about gear , wondered if i'd see you around , given that im in that part of the world. Im in the bottling hall...i ride the GPX...bike doesnt look too bad really and youre ok...be uber aware in high traffic density areas!:Punk:

[Bonmaklad]

Thanks guys for your advice, I totally know it's my fault cos i see that happen all the time when i'm driving so why did i do differently while riding... i don't know, i'm annoyed at myself cos it seemed so obvious what went wrong. In my mind I was hoping someone woudl say ahhh man those suvs gotta watch em hahahah anyway, pain is starting to set in, so mothers coming to pick me up :)

well I live in albany so I think once I get back on the bike i'll pop up and see if I can get some pointers mainly though I think i'm going to stay away from the rain, don't think this would of happened if it was raining.

I know I shoudl be looking ahead, trust I know, i'm using the excuse that I couldn't see around the car but... thats even more reason I should of stayed back!! lesson learnt I think, now I have to face my mum having a heart attack haha.

Thank god I just bought all my new safety gear!! Now I want my leather pants though!!

hey bastardsquad I kept seeing your bike and then I walked past you when you were warming her up yesterday when I was getting my damaged wine! Wondered if you'd be on here! I know it's more annoying cos I bought the bike, cos he has crashed it before I had to buy a indicotor, wing mirror etc...... now i need to do it all again!!! plus all the marks, which I have no idea how much it will cost. I'm thinking of rubbing it down and putting something over so it doesn't rust then when i'm riding good then get a nice colour again otherwise i'll keep spending money fixing the paint work!


So Crashed at 60, lesson learnt and..... for all those who were saying to me I won't die, i didn't!! to be honest it really wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, low sliding that is. :)

[Bend-it]

Yeah sorry mate, that was your fault crashing into a stationary vehicle... haha...

We (bikers) need to be more aware in traffic and in the wet.
- Give more following space.
- Look as far ahead as you can see to identify potential hazards.
- Practice braking and steering around obstacles in the dry (no cost to
doing that).
- Get into the habit of planning escape routes while you're riding, when
something does happen, your brain will have something to pull out and use
quicksmart.

My 2c

[Ixion]

Oh dear. Oh well, shit happens. You seem to have a pretty good attitude, so don't let an unfortunate incident put you off.

In the wet, double your following distance.

In an emergency, expecially in the wet, do not brake hard as a first reaction. On a bike it is much better if possible to dodge. Emergency braking should be the very last resort. This is a very hard thing for car drivers turned riders to get their heads around.

Practice emergency braking!

Get on a RRRS course. It costs very little.

[Bend-it]

Aha... just realised you're the same guy asking about gears and tyres locking in the wet yesterday... :)

Hey chin up and keep learning yeah? Most of us have had some noobie bin at sometime of another, some multiple times...

Like you said, learn from it, become a better biker and move on. If you mean what you write in your posts, then you have the attitude and temperament to ride bikes for a long time... Go get yourself onto a course. :2thumbsup:

[discotex]

well I live in albany so I think once I get back on the bike i'll pop up and see if I can get some pointers mainly though I think i'm going to stay away from the rain, don't think this would of happened if it was raining.

Sounds like you need some basics covered off. I'm up your way so I'd be happy to spend an hour or two with you some time if you can't find an official KB mentor (preferred option).

Rain or no rain the same principles apply.

Keep a safe following distance, sort your road positioning and half the battle is won. When you're learning these two will save your arse more than anything.

Once your bike handling skills improve (check out the Wednesday NASS thing (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2008-9-24&e=1673&c=1)) you'll have more mental space to get your situational awareness up and learn to look at what the traffic is doing.

[Bonmaklad]

yep no, all good. shoulder is a bit dodge though I must admit, will be back on the bike once I find myself a few new parts oh and my shoulder gets some better range of motion. :) :buggerd:

[retro asian]

Maybe try reading the rode code again in detail (assuming you've always failed theory tests from not studying the code)...

It can be boring in some parts, because its annoying reading a "learner" book after you've had your car licence for many years... but there's lots of sensible tips in there, especially in the motorbike section...