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dreamer87
21st September 2008, 10:14
Anyone here get these in ex japan at all?

gunrunner
21st September 2008, 19:52
Mate , where do i start you can get anything from japan , i personally got mine from japan bought at auction real easy but you do spend alot of time behind the laptop , i will have a look for you PM me ?:headbang:

dreamer87
22nd September 2008, 08:33
mint, will do

dreamer87
22nd September 2008, 09:03
Been looking at a couple bikes on trade me, need some advice.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-174362409.htm

This one seems like up my alley for what I want to do, tour around NZ. Any one know how comfortably these F650's are? Cruising speeds etc?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=176022529

This would have to be the dream bike but does anyone have or know of any for a less price, similar ago for the R1200 GS?

I dont want to spend heaps on the bike, so it can leave me with some cash to get some new gear, ie GPS, new boots and helmet etc and cash for my 2-3 month tour around NZ, in which I will be camping as much as I can and freeloading off kind people in lieu of my cool personality so I would lean towards the F650 GS mainly because its a mini, in my view, mini R1200 GS and does all the same stuff, I think, Im not sure as I have not talked or seen a F650 GS to know of.

Then there is the whole new Japan Import market, which Im totally intrigued about, I mean can you get in the R1200 GS late model for a good price or not? How long would it take as I want a bike before December.

Any knowledge out there guys?

Winston001
22nd September 2008, 10:07
Depends upon what you are looking for. A BMW is a high quality long-term owners bike so if you only want it for a three month trip, you'd probably find it easier to buy something like a Transalp.

A 650 would be fine to tour NZ and allow you to go offroad. The 1200 has a lot more torque and is heavier. No surprises there. If you want to ride quietly and enjoy yourself, a 400 trail bike would work.

If you can, get a bike with hard luggage, it will be cheaper and a whole lot more convenient than trying to sort it out later.

Consider an 1100GS or 1150GS too, very good bikes.

The only problem I've ever heard of is some GSs had rear spline problems at around 60,000 miles (100,000 km). Google is your friend. :D

dreamer87
22nd September 2008, 13:21
heya thanks,

im tempted on this one, which I had listed above

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-174362409.htm

I want to be confortable while riding and the F650GS there is not really out of price range for me, seems like it has the gears, panniers, top box (allthough i dont like them personally and it would be coming off on on trade me again) tank bag which I like etc so what do these cruise at on the motorway?

The 650 would suit me I think but if the op presented itself the 1200GS or other 1150 etc, I might go for that if the price was right but those seem like a real serious bike to me that F650 seems quite resonable, what do you guys think?

gunrunner
22nd September 2008, 15:10
heya thanks,

im tempted on this one, which I had listed above

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dual-purpose/auction-174362409.htm

I want to be confortable while riding and the F650GS there is not really out of price range for me, seems like it has the gears, panniers, top box (allthough i dont like them personally and it would be coming off on on trade me again) tank bag which I like etc so what do these cruise at on the motorway?

The 650 would suit me I think but if the op presented itself the 1200GS or other 1150 etc, I might go for that if the price was right but those seem like a real serious bike to me that F650 seems quite resonable, what do you guys think?

Fly down and take it for a ride if you like it you can always ride it home

dreamer87
22nd September 2008, 15:56
Im very tempted too, might go look at some just to look at in Auckland first before I commit to a fly down.

Would it be too risky to buy it sight unseen & have it transported to AKL via bike tranz?

CookMySock
22nd September 2008, 16:14
Would it be too risky to buy it sight unseen & have it transported to AKL via bike tranz?I would say its not risky. Note that its from a dealer - I would tell them EXACTLY what you want it for, and that you might be riding it home, and then PAY them to check it over for you, then under the consumer guarantees act you can recover costs from them if it craps out.

Steve

dreamer87
22nd September 2008, 16:34
I would say its not risky. Note that its from a dealer - I would tell them EXACTLY what you want it for, and that you might be riding it home, and then PAY them to check it over for you, then under the consumer guarantees act you can recover costs from them if it craps out.

Steve

Thats what I thought. I dont really want to ride it home If I can avoid it as it would spoil my trip Im planning this summer for it and I dont mind using bike tranz coz they are really good.
So you say pay them to check it over so it falls back on them if it falls apart 2 ks down the road type thing? I mean it looks is good nick and has the items I want (or was going to buy for a bike anyhow) panniers and bike bag, allthough they are small in cost compared to the bike, its still nice to get a good package.

HenryDorsetCase
22nd September 2008, 16:40
Im very tempted too, might go look at some just to look at in Auckland first before I commit to a fly down.

Would it be too risky to buy it sight unseen & have it transported to AKL via bike tranz?

Ive had a look at and sit on that bike. You can see its done some k's but it did seem sound. According to the salesman (and to some other people what I have spoke to) those motors are unexciting but reliable. I havent seen too many of them, but it does seem to represent not bad value for money. And its a dealer so they might knock the cost of a ticket off the purchase price or something. My concerns would be what high cost maintenance stuff it had had done (I didnt get that far into it when talking to the guy so cant tell you): rear shock, fork rebuild/bushes/chain and sprockets, swingarm pivot bearings/wheel bearings etc, before I worried too much about the motor. Its got hot grips and a higher screen than stock too, IIRC.

dreamer87
22nd September 2008, 17:20
Oh right. It does look like what Im after really given my new budget unless a 2004+ R1200 came through the door for around the same price, which I cant see happening? You say unexciting, but does it cruise around nice and comfortably as a tourer on our roads? I do plan a 2 month+ Trip right around NZ on it or something similar...

To me it seems like a good deal all round I guess? Whats the top speed on these things before the engine is ringing and its about to fall apart?

gunrunner
22nd September 2008, 17:45
Im very tempted too, might go look at some just to look at in Auckland first before I commit to a fly down.

Would it be too risky to buy it sight unseen & have it transported to AKL via bike tranz?

You should get a cheap flight down there , they would probably pick you up at the airport . Hell they could even pay for your flight if you told them you were serious on buying it , i know of alot that do that , if you got it call in on way thru would love to have a look at it:headbang:

dreamer87
22nd September 2008, 17:50
hmmm your tempting me to do so, you should be a salesman if you already are not! I cant afford to get time off at the moment to fly down but I mean if anyone here has seen it, like henrydorsetcase, then it would be cool to see what they say, seems like a good deal to me once again.

also HDC, is it an import?

and binklebonk, come my tour of NZ, ill call in for sure. Ill be making a blog website n stuff and Ill ask people on here if I can stay on their lawns as I pass through from town to town, not asking you of that but just saying you can keep track when I get all sorted and going so you know when Im near, its my own long way down but exploring NZ. got to do these things when you can I say, and right now, I can, well soon. need a proper bike first.

paturoa
22nd September 2008, 18:09
Get in touch with gunnyrob about ex rental R1200s. He got one and has had some problems. Might give you somethings to check.

dreamer87
22nd September 2008, 18:20
cool thanks, funny you mention ex rental R1200's was looking at a couple but like with anything rental, you cannot be too sure or careful.

Winston001
23rd September 2008, 09:12
Are you looking for a bike short-term or long term? What happens after your trip?

CookMySock
23rd September 2008, 09:31
Are you looking for a bike short-term or long term? What happens after your trip?Someone needs to go into business trading cheapie bikes and vans like this for tourists. I'd do it, but I'm broke coz I'm busy spending money on bikes and vans.. LOL

Steve

dreamer87
23rd September 2008, 10:25
is there a medium term? Ill still keep using it after the trip etc but once again who knows, I want something decent and comfortably and can carry panniers well etc and has some grunt but at a good cost and can re sell if need be as a contingency plan, very well. for the money Im still thinking that F650 GS looks the deal, but I am open to sugggestions.

Tank
23rd September 2008, 10:43
Depends if its just the Beemer that you are interested in.

There are other 650 bikes like the v-strom 650 or the Transalp that will do the job very nicly indeed.

They have the added benefit of being cheaper and fairly easy to on-sell when you have finished with them - probably for close to what you paid for them.

Also - with difference between the 650 / 1200 - I would have thought for NZ would have been the better bike would have been the smaller one (assuming that you are not 2-uping). Ive got a v-strom 1000 but would have got the 650 if I didn't land such a good deal on the 1k. NZ's roads don't need the bigger bike, and the bigger bike will be much harder to handle if you decide to go off road.

Either way - sounds like a awesome adventure - keep posting and I'm sure you will be able to get KB accommodation almost everywhere!

Winston001
23rd September 2008, 11:01
Depends if its just the Beemer that you are interested in.

There are other 650 bikes like the v-strom 650 or the Transalp that will do the job very nicly indeed.

They have the added benefit of being cheaper and fairly easy to on-sell when you have finished with them - probably for close to what you paid for them.

Also - with difference between the 650 / 1200 - I would have thought for NZ the better bike would have been the smaller one .

Agreed. I'm very fond of BMW but if I was planning your type of trip the choice would be a common easy-to-get-parts bike like a Transalp. The VStrom 650 would be the top pick.

Mind you, if you really want a BMW then go for it. We need our passions, forget about logic. :niceone:

slimjim
23rd September 2008, 11:08
fuck yea.. ride what you'll remember.. as part of your camera so should be the bike..... and i'm sure that there are some true motorcyclist's here...that would assist with holding an selling for you....your bike...

Tony W
23rd September 2008, 22:00
So Mr/Ms '87, let me get this straight. You are hoping to buy an XR 400 ( Kiwi Biker Adventure forum )
and a BMW 1200 GS and a full set of riding gear, all within a budget of LESS than $6000 ? :confused:

I am watching with interest....

dreamer87
24th September 2008, 09:13
So Mr/Ms '87, let me get this straight. You are hoping to buy an XR 400 ( Kiwi Biker Adventure forum )
and a BMW 1200 GS and a full set of riding gear, all within a budget of LESS than $6000 ? :confused:

I am watching with interest....

No. If you had of read correctly you would find that I am now in the position to buy something of worth in terms of a BMW F650 GS OR R1200 if one comes along for the right price. I dont need to buy riding gear, all I need is a new GPS and cradle for the iPhone and Im away. I had planned on a XR400 since Ive onwed a few but now, like you might have seen I can now think about getting something a little more up there, so there is no need to be confused or watch with any intrigued interest.

Tony W
24th September 2008, 16:28
No. If you had of read correctly you would find that I am now in the position to buy something of worth in terms of a BMW F650 GS OR R1200 if one comes along for the right price. I dont need to buy riding gear, all I need is a new GPS and cradle for the iPhone and Im away. I had planned on a XR400 since Ive onwed a few but now, like you might have seen I can now think about getting something a little more up there, so there is no need to be confused or watch with any intrigued interest.

So then, what is your budget now?

gunrunner
24th September 2008, 16:41
hmmm your tempting me to do so, you should be a salesman if you already are not! I cant afford to get time off at the moment to fly down but I mean if anyone here has seen it, like henrydorsetcase, then it would be cool to see what they say, seems like a good deal to me once again.

also HDC, is it an import?

and binklebonk, come my tour of NZ, ill call in for sure. Ill be making a blog website n stuff and Ill ask people on here if I can stay on their lawns as I pass through from town to town, not asking you of that but just saying you can keep track when I get all sorted and going so you know when Im near, its my own long way down but exploring NZ. got to do these things when you can I say, and right now, I can, well soon. need a proper bike first.

No worries, im seriously thinking of taking my Max down south island in month gonna go down SH 1 and inland Kiakoura road etc was gonna do the senic route to miss CHCH but i want to go to the Britten Muesum in CHCH go down to Balclutha were im leaving it to head by 4x4 into the catlins but head back thru central /westcoast way to nelson lakes then ferry then home . I will do the same thing shortly :clap:

dreamer87
25th September 2008, 13:35
So then, what is your budget now?

if you have seen the auctions of bikes I have listed in posts then that would tell you.

gunnyrob
25th September 2008, 15:31
Paid 14999 last May for my ex-rental 2004 R1200GS with 58,000km. was regularly maintained. Blew clutch, pressure plate & gearbox input shaft at 70,000km, cost 3867 to fix, bike off road for 2 months. A great bike, but pays your money, takes your chances. Good luck

Search "gunnyrob" on this site for the low down

Tony W
25th September 2008, 17:37
if you have seen the auctions of bikes I have listed in posts then that would tell you.

Why don't YOU tell me. Just give a dollar figure. It's so simple.
Then I can acquaint you with Reality.

gunrunner
25th September 2008, 18:48
cool thanks, funny you mention ex rental R1200's was looking at a couple but like with anything rental, you cannot be too sure or careful.

Hi again , have just looked up that 1996 BMWR1100GS and it didnt have all the paperwork for importation so they pulled it:nono:

dreamer87
25th September 2008, 19:28
Yea, ive always been sceptical about rental bikes but hey, sometimes you feel like taking chances.

gunrunner
1st October 2008, 20:36
No. If you had of read correctly you would find that I am now in the position to buy something of worth in terms of a BMW F650 GS OR R1200 if one comes along for the right price. I dont need to buy riding gear, all I need is a new GPS and cradle for the iPhone and Im away. I had planned on a XR400 since Ive onwed a few but now, like you might have seen I can now think about getting something a little more up there, so there is no need to be confused or watch with any intrigued interest.

Hi, just to let you know this sold at auction 2004 BMW F650GS 13KMS $9800NZD on road with 6 months rego