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scorry
26th September 2008, 10:44
sorry if this is a repost but i am useless at finding stuff on here.
Just had a thought that i might be doing this wrong, so why not check.
When cornering at speed:
do you put your weight on your outside peg and therefore can get your toes out of the way and also stick your knee out easier
or
slide off the side of the bike and put your weight on the inside peg.
If you have a look at the photo attached, i have slid off the bike a little with most of my weight on the inside peg.
also by putting your weight on the inside peg would this be easier to cause a low side?
The biggest issue i have is ground clearance cos of my um muscly frame lol and my trail bike suspension, by putting more weight on the outside, would this help stand the bike up?
thanks
boomer
26th September 2008, 10:47
You weight teh outside peg for more grip when leaned over.
vtec
26th September 2008, 11:00
Motarding, definitely put your weight on the outside peg, but lean the bike over till the pegs are nipping at the ground, if it is a high speed sweeper then lean your head and shoulders over too, and use your knee to guide your ground clearance and save any little slides. Or in the tighter corners, brake super late, put your foot out like a MXer, and drift the back into the corner, point it in the right direction and shoot out.
I remember Shaun Harris telling my mate Texmo to stomp the inside peg. But both Shaun and Texmo are ruthless and drop bikes. Maybe they meant do that just to tip it over, because mid-corner I have my weight on the outside peg so that I can use my inside knee to guide my ground clearance accurately.
scorry
26th September 2008, 11:05
ok so i am doing it wrong / different then, hmm looks like i need more practise time.
thanks heaps for the advice.
dipshit
26th September 2008, 11:31
Why does it have to be one or the other?
I sometimes weight the inside peg when entering and apexing to help the bike to corner - then transfer weight to the outside peg when accelerating out to help give traction for drive.
Its both for this kid.
bungbung
26th September 2008, 11:40
Also, when your bike is right over and the peg is folding up, you don't really want much weight on it.
scorry
26th September 2008, 11:44
Also, when your bike is right over and the peg is folding up, you don't really want much weight on it.
yeah i found that out the hard way last time at levels :Oops:
NordieBoy
26th September 2008, 13:52
Weight the inside if you want to lowside.
Weight the outside if you don't.
phoenixgtr
26th September 2008, 14:06
The outside peg is also an excellent pivot point. If you're pushing down on the outside peg and forward on the inside handle bar then you are using alot of your body strength to turn the bike effectively
Motu
26th September 2008, 18:31
Going at at a walking pace - stand up on the pegs....now weight each side in turn.What happens?
In trials,where we do the slowest tightest turns possible - weight is fully on the outside peg.
dipshit
27th September 2008, 10:17
Weight the inside if you want to lowside.
On a dry sealed road with tyres up to temperature, you shouldn't have a problem of lowsiding going into a corner. Wet roads/cold tyres maybe. Cornering in the wet i would weight the outside peg for the entire corner. Otherwise...
See this...
http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_0608_body_positioning_steering_techniques/index.html
"While pushing forward on the inside bar, weighting the inside footpeg and pulling the outside thigh toward the inside of the corner might sound complex, in actual practice you'll likely find that you've already been doing it to some degree. When focusing on using the upper and lower body to steer the bike more effectively, most riders feel that someone's installed power steering on their bike. It turns in much easier with less effort, and with a little practice it becomes second nature. The added stability of this light-on-the-bars technique is ever more important as bikes get lighter, shorter and more powerful.
From the apex of the corner on, weighting the outside footpeg gives a couple of advantages. First, it helps stand the bike up off the edge of the tire to generate a larger contact patch and allow the rider to accelerate. Second, it helps transfer the rider's weight through the rear contact patch to the ground, increasing traction."
pritch
27th September 2008, 12:40
From the apex of the corner on, weighting the outside footpeg gives a couple of advantages. First, it helps stand the bike up off the edge of the tire to generate a larger contact patch and allow the rider to accelerate. Second, it helps transfer the rider's weight through the rear contact patch to the ground, increasing traction." [/I]
I read an interview, Colin Edwards from memory, and he was saying that he would weight the inside peg on exit if he wanted to assist the back end break away. Can't remember why he was doing that, presumably to tighten his line.
Me, I just weight the outside peg, there's enough things to think about already :whistle: KISS and all that...
dipshit
27th September 2008, 14:20
I read an interview, Colin Edwards from memory, and he was saying that he would weight the inside peg on exit if he wanted to assist the back end break away. Can't remember why he was doing that, presumably to tighten his line.
Yeah, a lot of GP500 riders did that too. Inside peg when accelerating out to provoke slide, then shift weigh to the outside peg to get the rear to hook up when almost out of the corner.
puddytat
27th September 2008, 14:38
Yeah, a lot of GP500 riders did that too. Inside peg when accelerating out to provoke slide, then shift weigh to the outside peg to get the rear to hook up when almost out of the corner.
Yeah I do it all the time......:doobey:
fridayflash
28th September 2008, 11:47
yep, outside for traction ,inside to break it...
Romeo
28th September 2008, 12:20
Nearly binned it when I was learning because I was putting too much weight on the inside peg.
Chrislost
29th September 2008, 16:01
I once went for a ride, started getting a bit lazy and sitting down, thus weighting the inside peg more...
bike told me it didnt like it by tossing me up onto the windscreen.
t3mp0r4ry nzr
29th September 2008, 17:01
weigh the inside peg to tip the bike into a turn, and on exit weight the outside peg to get more grip from the rear.
weighting the inside peg too much will only tire out your thighs. but to be honest, it looks like your trying to hard and moving around too much.this will only wear you out its a motard, they dont really carry mid turn speed, so square the turn off, brake late and back in and throttle the bastard out. on sweeper turns wear you cant back it in, just sit upright,wait til you can throttle it 100%, then hit the gas, slidding the rear to help you turn it.
just my honest opinion, hope you dont take it the wrong way :>
scorry
29th September 2008, 20:22
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just my honest opinion, hope you dont take it the wrong way :>
na mate that why i put this thread on here, so i could get others opinions
imne1
10th October 2008, 08:06
I never thought about weighting in either direction although i guess i was doing it before on the scooter. I'll have to try this out with the new bike. :yeah:
rocketman1
15th October 2008, 19:36
Yeah I agree,
You weight the inside peg, as you start to countersteer, this helps the bike tip to the desired lean angle, then weight the outside peg through the turn, till your upright again, all the time using the countersteering to a greater or lessor effect to control your lean angle and direction. A little ( ie I mean a little) bit of back brake can assist as well for tighter cornering.
Hold your head level, to keep the horizon keep its true perspective, bend your elbows a bit too.
You know when your heads level, you dribble evenly out out both sides of your mouth, especially when your tailgating some h-h-h hot chicks arse in t-t-t-ttight leathers around the Taupo race track.
Cant believe an old bastard like me said that!
johan
15th October 2008, 19:50
Here's a question for you all:
How does it affect the bike, if at all, if you move your support from the seat to the foot pegs, i.e. hover over the seat half an inch.
Does the Center of Gravity change? If yes, up or down?
:corn:
Mom
15th October 2008, 20:06
When leaning into a right hander I find it best to be pushing the right hand bar away from me (I believe it is commonly known as counter steering) but weighting the (left) outside peg provides balance at the same time. I have saved a few overcooked corners by "stomping" on an opposing peg before today. Reverse the L/R thing going the other way.
Weighting the pegs is an overlooked part of riding a bike :yes:
Mom
15th October 2008, 20:17
You know when your heads level, you dribble evenly out out both sides of your mouth, especially when your tailgating some h-h-h hot chicks arse in t-t-t-ttight leathers around the Taupo race track.
Cant believe an old bastard like me said that!
Dribble away mate :yes:
Keeping your horizon is very important. These days it is called looking where you want to go, but yes heads up, look where you are going.
For me it is about being one with your ride. Know your bike, how it handles, help it negotiate our roads/tracks by being alert and countering any adverse reactions it might have by moving yourself on the bike, or praying hard in some cases.
By the way..personally I prefer hard buns, in less than fitting leather :drool:
Moki
17th November 2008, 13:30
Weight the inside if you want to lowside.
Weight the outside if you don't.
Remember the physics classes from school.....?
CM2005
17th November 2008, 14:26
i'm not honestly sure what i do?? almost crashed on the weekend and had both feet off the pegs, while kneedown.. what the?
NordieBoy
17th November 2008, 16:47
Remember the physics classes from school.....?
Yep.
Never handed in a physics assignment all 6th form.
scroter
22nd November 2008, 06:51
well i know bugger all bout motarding, but why dont you try different things at a slower speed, this should let you spend some energy to concentrate on how the bike reacts and if it works for you.
I have been racing in the pro twins and I load the inside peg going into corners which seems to help turn the bike, then when I get back on the gas i swap to the outside peg which seems to let me wind it on a bit more. this feels like it works to me but I may be wrong there may be a faster way.
Besides like I said try a few differnt things yourself, just make sure your going slow enough to feel whats going on, and then when you decide what you like chuck some speed at it. Good Luck
McJim
22nd November 2008, 07:07
Remember the physics classes from school.....?
Bugger - in Scotland we got taught about thermonuclear dynamics in Physics :( not much use for a bike eh?
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