Do modern Maori have mental issues?

[MIZXR]

Hehe this outa be fun.

before I begin I have a lot of repect for those who respect where they came from and the culture behind it. I am in no way saying anybody should forget their heritage but.

When you consider that there are no pure bred Maori left in NZ and the are a makeup of several different races my questions are...

when walking the beaches and riversides do they fight inside their minds whether or not they should be there? The Moari side telling the white side to get lost.

when claiming for treaty settlement do they ever think that one side of their family tree was the one that "took" the land from them?
So how do you hand over the money from yourself to yourself? Why are they not expected to pay and why should the money go to those whose ancestors did the deed?

Why take money from those that kept their race more pure cause maori lost there own, when part of their fucking family tree - you know those ancestors that are to be respected in Moari culture - are the fucking same.

the other quetion is why when talking to these Moari that go around telling people about their culture always say how well I pronounce the word when I say mouldy? Why!

[JimO]

welllll modern maori fall into two groups (1) the hard working honest law abiding people and (2) the untrustworthy violent theiving lazy cunts this isnt the 1880s they need to either join the rest of the us in this century or fuck off back where they came from

[nodrog]

why dont you white cunts fuck off, spoiling evolution. if you hadnt turned up im sure i would be cruising around on my pauasaki motopaika, wearing my flaximoto hākete, off to see rangi at his new job at kaikohe fried moa.

[AllanB]

This one time at band camp I read a very good very short Si-Fi story that went along the lines of:

Big spaceship pops into a low orbit around earth (it's possibly a Honda as it would need to be very reliable). Spaceship makes a global broadcast stating that "it has taken thousands of years but we are back - after extensive research we have finally found a cure for the illness, and you no longer need to be quarantined on this blue planet."


"We can fix the problem"



"No more illness"




"We can stop you turning white"


Classic.

[imdying]

Yes, some of them do. So do a lot of 'insert any race you bloody like here'.

As far as pure breeding goes... there was something on stuff yesterday about attractiveness being linked to generic features (i.e. the result of a lot of cross breeding), as this indicated a hardier set of genes or some such lark... so one could argue that a lack of pure breeding is a positive.

If you believe the adverts on TV, look left, look right, one of those people beside you has mental health issues. Or is that cancer? I forget...

[firefighter]

why dont you white cunts fuck off, spoiling evolution. if you hadnt turned up im sure i would be cruising around on my pauasaki motopaika, wearing my flaximoto hākete, off to see rangi at his new job at kaikohe fried moa.

hahahahaha, noice, problem is you need wheels to move your pauasaki- and maori didn't have the wheel yet.....so maybe add another 10 years from now and you'd have your pauasaki! ;)

[nodrog]

hahahahaha, noice, problem is you need wheels to move your pauasaki- and maori didn't have the wheel yet.....so maybe add another 10 years from now and you'd have your pauasaki! ;)

who the fuck needs wheels, my pauasaki would fly, like this waka topatopa i carved from a punga tree.

[JimO]

who the fuck needs wheels, my pauasaki would fly, like this waka topatopa i carved from a punga tree.

where did ya get the guns from rangi??

[nodrog]

where did ya get the guns from rangi??

trademe

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[MSTRS]

So how do you hand over the money from yourself to yourself?

Not an issue. Because to take it from yourself, you'd had to have put some in in the first place. Do you really think the driving force(s) behind all the claims are actually productive taxpayers?

[riffer]

What a completely idiotic comment.

As MSTRS says, it ain't because of any schizophrenic behaviour in the average Maori mind. It's all about the gravy train.

You give a final incentive to anybody based on their racial heritage, and chances are you'll find a lawyer willing to represent you to help you make a claim. For a fee of course.

Or a tribal representative.

You continue to believe you can categorise people's behaviour based on their ethnic heritage and its just plain wrong. Go find a redneck forum to spout your drivel.

[James Deuce]

I'm voting Maori Party twice now.

[Madness]

When you consider that there are no pure bred Maori left in NZ

You haven't been to the East Coast then?

[Meanie]

Oh my god this thread is gonna blow :shit:, better run for cover now i rekon

[98tls]

welllll modern maori fall into two groups (1) the hard working honest law abiding people and (2) the untrustworthy violent theiving lazy cunts this isnt the 1880s they need to either join the rest of the us in this century or fuck off back where they came from Whilst at it theres plenty of white trash that could do the same.Fwiw.

[DMNTD]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5210/tribal4nt3.jpg

[JimO]

Whilst at it theres plenty of white trash that could do the same.Fwiw.

agreed.....

[SPman]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5210/tribal4nt3.jpg

"If you wanna put some meat into that kai that you been eaten,
I got a new dish for you,
I call it...........

[Jacko2]

Hehe this outa be fun.

before I begin I have a lot of repect for those who respect where they came from and the culture behind it. I am in no way saying anybody should forget their heritage but.

When you consider that there are no pure bred Maori left in NZ and the are a makeup of several different races my questions are...

when walking the beaches and riversides do they fight inside their minds whether or not they should be there? The Moari side telling the white side to get lost.

when claiming for treaty settlement do they ever think that one side of their family tree was the one that "took" the land from them?
So how do you hand over the money from yourself to yourself? Why are they not expected to pay and why should the money go to those whose ancestors did the deed?

Why take money from those that kept their race more pure cause maori lost there own, when part of their fucking family tree - you know those ancestors that are to be respected in Moari culture - are the fucking same.

the other quetion is why when talking to these Moari that go around telling people about their culture always say how well I pronounce the word when I say mouldy? Why!
Interesting MIZXR.
What about this idea.
If, let's say 'the goverment', said you were now allowed money, for whatever reason, and you qualified for said money, would you turn it down?

"We" voted in goverments who over time have told kids they could ring social welfare if their parents said NO, and signed into United Nations pacts that give prisoners (criminals) more rights than you and I. Just two examples.
My question is, who's is at fault really?

Do you think Maoris would be making claims if the govt. hadn't put the option in place? Possibly.

Make sure you vote for who is nearest to your wants.

(Fuck, that was a mouthful, my head hurts)

[98tls]

Interesting MIZXR.
What about this idea.
If, let's say 'the goverment', said you were now allowed money, for whatever reason, and you qualified for said money, would you turn it down?

"We" voted in goverments who over time have told kids they could ring social welfare if their parents said NO, and signed into United Nations pacts that give prisoners (criminals) more rights than you and I. Just two examples.
My question is, who's is at fault really?

Do you think Maoris would be making claims if the govt. hadn't put the option in place? Possibly.

Make sure you vote for who is nearest to your wants.

(Fuck, that was a mouthful, my head hurts) As ive said before who actually gets the dosh,ive met a shitload of Maori people in my time but not one has ever seen a dime of the gazillons supposedly given them.

[Jacko2]

As ive said before who actually gets the dosh,ive met a shitload of Maori people in my time but not one has ever seen a dime of the gazillons supposedly given them.

Totally Agree.
Seems to be a lot of lawyers connected to Waitangi Tribunal.
Legal Aid, add in appeals, there's lotsa tax money to be made.

I may be wrong here but, if I was in the shit, I either wouldn't qualify for legal aid, or if I was would have to pay it back.
Better off having fuck-all or cheating the system.
Same comments again about us voting in govts. who put these in place.

JACKO
(cynical old bastard)
Thats why I ride, clears the head of the shit.

[NOMIS]

What a completely idiotic comment.



You continue to believe you can categorise people's behaviour based on their ethnic heritage and its just plain wrong. Go find a redneck forum to spout your drivel.


Thank you, this forum is utter crap from obviously un educated people, maori fooled the white man over and over during the land wars so they can't be that bloody stupid..

and thanks you my other half for most of the maori side of my family is German Scotish and Irish. Hard pressed trying to find a Maori in my family with English heritage. Not that i would be a racist prick about that side either.

[NOMIS]

"If you wanna put some meat into that kai that you been eaten,
I got a new dish for you,
I call it...........

I used to work with this guy in the picture, his names "t" short for something I can't spell. It started of as "maori's dont F*** with us we eat people"

[NOMIS]

and just for the record, Im both Maori and Pakeha. I can't change that and I am proud of my family. Some people from my racial groups may have done bad things yes I cant change that and I can't be proud of it.

Doesnt change the fact I belong to these racial groups .. however I am proud of my family, They are all hard working ( maybe a few preganant cousins here and there ) but My family does own alot of land in a trust and it is farmed by a uncle who works his arse of longer hours than alot of you could imagine be it Christmas day or what. Rain/hail/snow good season bad season. and yeh he is happy to be a cockey..

My father brought me up best he could and has done a good job as far as im concerned he gave me oportunities and choices .

I have a Aunt who teaches Young naughty kids who are going on a downhill road to no where fast. she works her butt of for minimal money and then pours it all straight back into them. She also put her self and paid for her self to do a degree in phychology and teaching. And all these people are Maori..

And for the record our farmland was purchased 100's of years ago by my great great great grandad who's father was a German imigrant and mother was a Maori women. So no treaty claim thank you,

[Dave Lobster]

As ive said before who actually gets the dosh,ive met a shitload of Maori people in my time but not one has ever seen a dime of the gazillons supposedly given them.

I have. I work with a guy whose tribe has been given money by us/the government.
They've bought a prison (no, they don't get cheap rates when their relatives are in there - I asked). They've got a shopping mall. All sorts of stuff. They've invested it in useful things, so that their children have an income in years to come.

Not all Maoris are dumb idiots.

[98tls]

I have. I work with a guy whose tribe has been given money by us/the government.
They've bought a prison (no, they don't get cheap rates when their relatives are in there - I asked). They've got a shopping mall. All sorts of stuff. They've invested it in useful things, so that their children have an income in years to come.

Not all Maoris are dumb idiots. That makes me feel so much better.I may well in fact do extra overtime to ensure there future well being.

[cs363]

If you believe the adverts on TV, look left, look right, one of those people beside you has mental health issues. Or is that cancer? I forget...

Well according to Chopper Read, if you look at the person on your left and then the one on your right, and then take a look at yourself you get a totally different result!

http://s476.photobucket.com/albums/rr122/cs363/?action=view&current=Chopper-Deadshits.flv


Sadly, hes not that far off the truth, lol

[Pussy]

I reckon be proud of your heritage, whatever it may be. You are what you are. Not one of us had any choice as to how we arrived in this world, or what our ancestry was

[terbang]

I reckon be proud of your heritage, whatever it may be. You are what you are. Not one of us had any choice as to how we arrived in this world, or what our ancestry was

Hang on mate, this is a biker site, they eat aviators here.

[MIZXR]

Interesting MIZXR.
What about this idea.
If, let's say 'the goverment', said you were now allowed money, for whatever reason, and you qualified for said money, would you turn it down?


Actually yes, for starters I would rather be called a NZ'er than accept money for being a stupid, hard done, by disadvantaged race who need special benifits to survive. This is the reasons for most of the funding but generally put in a better way apart from on darky Labour MP.

Been in this position before with an op on my leg that was stuffed up and would have cause major problems and eventually decided I could live without the money when I found where it would come from.

If it was for a treaty then why that would no longer be my race so why not see the money spent on new technology or whatever or something that may help a greater number of people than wasted on a few people. Who don't seem to spend it on their race, they still expect the govt to pay and people are happy with this.



"We" voted in goverments who over time have told kids they could ring social welfare if their parents said NO, and signed into United Nations pacts that give prisoners (criminals) more rights than you and I. Just two examples.
My question is, who's is at fault really?


Both really. If enough people would care and continue to care something might get done - not sure I believe this but I'll keep dreaming.
The worst part is that middle NZ wants to cause no offence to anyone so its easier to hit the victim.



Do you think Maoris would be making claims if the govt. hadn't put the option in place? Possibly.
Make sure you vote for who is nearest to your wants.


I'd think I would need my own party but it would be considered racist just like the nice Austrailian lady.

[Hoon]

Been in this position before with an op on my leg that was stuffed up and would have cause major problems and eventually decided I could live without the money when I found where it would come from.

May be OK for you as you obviously could afford it so I'd say you'd be an exception as for every one of you, there are probably another 99 pakeha bludgers out there that would gladly take the cash. I'm Maori and I have a private health plan and don't use ACC at all. Yep I'm probably an exception too. So what does this mean then?

Maybe this is more a "human behaviour" statistical normality that some are trying to label as a race issue, which happens a lot when you are talking about a minority group....especially with the uninformed.

For example, when you hear about some Maori crim on the news, everyone goes "Fucken Maoris'!!". However when some nutcase like that Samurai P freak is on the news, does anyone go "Fucken Europeans!!!" ???

[NOMIS]

For example, when you hear about some Maori crim on the news, everyone goes "Fucken Maoris'!!". However when some nutcase like that Samurai P freak is on the news, does anyone go "Fucken Europeans!!!" ???

Bling will be sent, How ever the narrow minded person who started this thread does not have a clue what they are talking about.

I could come up with a hell of alot of examples, did and one say bloody euro's when tony veitch bashes his wife?? hmmm

Gets up my nose when some prick starts this drivel and doesnt have a bloody clue what there talking about. especially when it comes to land claim's if you sat your stupid arse down and pull your head out of your arse you would see there is a process and when it goes through that process there well an truely entitled to what they get, but hey it was still free rent for the peopel using and occupying the place/s for how many years? and thats happend in various land claim cases.

[Pussy]

My .02c worth again... skin colour or race has bugger all to do with anything.
Pond scum, bottom feeders, oppurtunists etc are VERY well represented by all races in this country

[MIZXR]

I could come up with a hell of alot of examples, did and one say bloody euro's when tony veitch bashes his wife?? hmmm

Did I say NIGGERS are violent this time, All I said was they were not maori. Bring back the blood rating and maybe you'll see what I actually mean.



Gets up my nose when some prick starts this drivel and doesnt have a bloody clue what there talking about. especially when it comes to land claim's if you sat your stupid arse down and pull your head out of your arse you would see there is a process and when it goes through that process there well an truely entitled to what they get,


Yeah great process agrue why the deserve it then give it to them despite the fact the land was cleared and built upon by white men after paying for the land - at least in my families case. And the sure as shit arn't paying the old day costs and the owners are not getting their money back.
Fuck you like this shit go visit Zimbarbway or however it is spelt I don't see a great deal of difference except they are still black.


How ever the narrow minded person who started this thread does not have a clue what they are talking about.
WTF black people, sorry white people who think there brown, have the same fucken ancestors as thoe that took the land and I'm narrow minded.

Actually if you read the post I wasn't saying shit about black agression or even really baggin black people but was wondering if they get fucked in the head with both sides of the cross breeding land claiming saga.

Now when it comes to land claims fuck the process it's handled by a lot of people who don't know their hands from their arse. In a lot of cases the land was paid for .. we aint getting that back.

Second there are no full Maori only half castes so the have ancestors who also took the land which is my main point so why the fuck the country should give shit to them really makes me wonder. Just because you have a piece of paper that says I belong to this tribe don't make you Maori at all it just allows you to call yourself one.

At the point of the treaty it was a rushed job to do the right thing before the frech got in first and gave a really shit deal to the maori so deal with it, it was almost 200 year ago and got a shit load out of the deal.


but hey it was still free rent for the peopel using and occupying the place/s for how many years? and thats happend in various land claim cases.
So pay for your sewage and the time spent in our towns when you kin was kicked out of the tribes for being halfcaste then. What about power and blankets and everthing the whiteman brought to this country that make it what it is.What the fuck have the NIGGERS done then? other than take take take.
No some people think this expected just like giving tham the dole.

[MIZXR]

May be OK for you as you obviously could afford it so I'd say you'd be an exception as for every one of you, there are probably another 99 pakeha bludgers out there that would gladly take the cash. I'm Maori and I have a private health plan and don't use ACC at all. Yep I'm probably an exception too. So what does this mean then?

No I couldn't afford it but I didn't feel right about removing money from where it was really needed, dam concience. I know a few part Maori that hate the land claim idea and the fact that they are considered disadvantaged because they cannot see how the came off that bad, lots that also don't claim to be Maori but a NZ'er too because they don't want to be associated withthe reasons for the special treatment.

Besides in My Own Opinion I consider anyone that claims to be Maori to be racist and sepratist. While I belive you should respect your culture you simply are not Maori anymore - except for a govt decision in around 1986 that let anyone who can get a ticket saying they are from this tribe to be called a Maori. Just like I don't consider myself to be English, Scotish or Irish but a NZ'er. We get rid of this crapola and maybe we reduce the race issue and focus on the actuall problems.



Maybe this is more a "human behaviour" statistical normality that some are trying to label as a race issue, which happens a lot when you are talking about a minority group....especially with the uninformed.
For example, when you hear about some Maori crim on the news, everyone goes "Fucken Maoris'!!". However when some nutcase like that Samurai P freak is on the news, does anyone go "Fucken Europeans!!!" ???

statisics can prove anything... so minority leading with a large majority in criminal behaviour there is a reason we go bloody Maori - bet you do to as they disgrace your kind.

[NOMIS]

Did I say NIGGERS are violent this time, All I said was they were not maori. Bring back the blood rating and maybe you'll see what I actually mean.

So pay for your sewage and the time spent in our towns when you kin was kicked out of the tribes for being halfcaste then. What about power and blankets and everthing the whiteman brought to this country that make it what it is.What the fuck have the NIGGERS done then? other than take take take.
No some people think this expected just like giving tham the dole.

your arguing the most stupid case ever. and seriously pull your head in. how about what have YOU done for people..??? people take not just maori, or chineese, or any culture its people , and people like you, I do my best to give back infact if any ones interested ,, Sat the 18th there a school remakeover at Tamiki primary.. now wait alot of that school full of .. darker people so I guess because quote " niggers just take and take " MIZXr wont be there

Why don't you look at your self as a person before you look and generalise a entire racial group.

how about take your possums back, and yor rat's, and the flu, common cold's, TB, hairlice, ect back with you to.. now do you see how stupid and idiotic that sounds?? if yes re-read your post ...

and blankets?? do you really think Maori's where that thick not to be able to make there own clothing and keep them selves warm?? you really are pig headed arnt yah

[Jacko2]

Those fuckin half castes claiming all the land, bastards.:Oi::Oi::Oi:

[Hoon]

I reckon. I think it's just a plot by the evil Maori Bashers Liberation Front to conquer Maori by interbreeding in an attempt to dilute them away.

However they didn't realise that if you spend too much time around Maoris, you turn into one!! All their deep cover agents stopped checking in and were later found in TABs, casinos and welfare offices. It wasn't long before they started lodging land claims of their own so it's these moles that are giving all the legitimate bludging Maoris a bad name (as they still lack the finer points of accepting handouts that have been perfected by Maori over generations).

At the turn of the century...I mean last century, there were less than 40,000 Maori left in NZ. Today there is 600,000. In fact the Maori population of NZ is growing faster than the European.

Beware the plastic Maori.

[cs363]

My .02c worth again... skin colour or race has bugger all to do with anything.
Pond scum, bottom feeders, oppurtunists etc are VERY well represented by all races in this country


Correction: skin colour or race has bugger all to do with anything.
Pond scum, bottom feeders, oppurtunists etc are VERY well represented by the current government in this country :whistle:


By the way Pussy, that's 4 cents now ya bloody capitalist! :)

[Pussy]

Correction: skin colour or race has bugger all to do with anything.
Pond scum, bottom feeders, oppurtunists etc are VERY well represented by the current government in this country :whistle:


By the way Pussy, that's 4 cents now ya bloody capitalist! :)

Well, there is NO WAY that I can disagree with your correction there, cs363!

[cs363]

Well, there is NO WAY that I can disagree with your correction there, cs363!


:woohoo: I think you owe me a beer then!!! :yes:

[Pussy]

:woohoo: I think you owe me a beer then!!! :yes:

Fair enough!

[westie]

Atleast the treaty claims process is finishing finally and we can get on with paying for it :)

[fire eyes]

*giggling* ohhhhhhh deary me .. I asked my other selves if we thought Maori had Mental Health Issues .. but alas .. we cannot agree on said thread topic, it's my Irish side that disagrees with my Maori side .. are we surprised? no didnt think so ... I also gave due credit to all the other little bits and pieces of lost multi-cultural bloodlines the opportunity to pull rank .. unfortunately they were to busy with other global events but offered a majority proxy vote.

In my discussions with my other selves, one of me asked, why do people do things that sometimes make no sense to us .. and somewhere, another me called out .. because they are just doing what they feel they need to be doing ... so we contemplated this for a moment or two .. or three .. a seemingly simplistic concept .. doing what you feel you need to do at any given moment .. regardless of its relevence in anothers eyes .. me & my other selves sometimes wonder why people find it neccessary to keep stirring the burnt out pot .. but again .. they are just doing what they feel they need to be doing ..

So .. we sit here eating our popcorn .. drifting into simplistic concepts of what one feels is important while another doesn't .. concluding that it's ok not to understand people and realising that if we really wanted to know more about why they would do certain things .. our vested interest would be to "ohh my goodness, wait for it" go straight to the source & ask why!!!!!! ..

Ohhhhhh but word of warning .. speak slowely & come baring mince pies, jandals & pink tutus .. this will be your only safety mechanism to avoid being being roasted on the Spit!