General biker questions?

[TygerTung]

I just got my first motorbike a couple of days ago, and I have a few questions about riding...

I noticed when having a leasurly red through the workshop manual that the gears appear to be straight cut gears, and I noticed when riding that you can easily change gears without the clutch as they are straight cut.... is it bad for the bike to change like that?

Is it sweet to wear jeans while riding or do I need to wear those porno tight leather pants?

Are all helmets safe as each other? I know the full face is obviously safer than the open, but what other differences are there?

Does the carby on the CG110 have no accelerator enrichment pump?

[crashe]

First off..... welcome to the site.... and to riding.... and just ride safe out there on the roads.... always keep an eye out for the cars... as they do strange things .... like try to get into your lane when you are already in the lane....lol.

Since this is your first bike.... try and get someone else to go out for rides with you... and have them riding behind you as your "tail end charlie" to protect your butt from the cars....

I wear jeans when riding, cos I cant afford anything else at the mo...

Helmets... I prefer the fullface helmet. They start from $130 upwards.... buy one that you can afford at the mo.. and save for the one that you really want.... but do make sure it fits you properly.

The carby question - sorry I dont know.

Gears question - Sorry I don't know that answer... one of the others will know about that..

[TygerTung]

Thanks mate!

One other thing, what is a 'cager'? Is that a fulla driving a car?

[crashe]

Thanks mate!

One other thing, what is a 'cager'? Is that a fulla driving a car?

cage = car
so I guess cager = the driver of the car.
:ride: :ride:

[Two Smoker]

I just got my first motorbike a couple of days ago, and I have a few questions about riding...

I noticed when having a leasurly red through the workshop manual that the gears appear to be straight cut gears, and I noticed when riding that you can easily change gears without the clutch as they are straight cut.... is it bad for the bike to change like that?

Is it sweet to wear jeans while riding or do I need to wear those porno tight leather pants?

Are all helmets safe as each other? I know the full face is obviously safer than the open, but what other differences are there?

Does the carby on the CG110 have no accelerator enrichment pump?

Hey mate welcome to the site....

Upchanges are fine without the clutch, downchanges you must use the clutch and blip the throttle at the same time, otherwise it can cause the rear wheel to lock up....

Jeans arent great at all, i would save the $$ and get some Cordura pants with armour in the knees, failing that some Draggin jeans for commuting in (come with kevlar in the knees, arse and hips).... Ive crashed about 8 or 9 times (sorry losing count) and have only crashed in leathers 1 piece (like the racers where, hang on.... i am a racer :eek5: just a slow one lol) so i highly recommend leathers.... Leathers are better tight, as it makes you slide, rather than grip and flip you over... But most leathers arent tight...

Helmets: Buy the best you can afford, i recomment HJC as a cheap well made helmet... Only go full face, otherwise you will eat lots of bugs and you definately dont want to do a face plant at 100kmh in a open face....

Accelerator enrichment pump??? Are you talking about a fuel pump?? it will most likely be just gravity feed, as only big bikes have a fuel pump :niceone:

[sAsLEX]

Thanks mate!

One other thing, what is a 'cager'? Is that a fulla driving a car?

a cage is a car, a cager driving said cage.

[TygerTung]

Accelrator enrichment pump in a carby is used to give it an extra squirt of fuel to richen it up when you open the throttle fast to stop it bogging down....

My CG bogs down hard if I open the throttle too quick, I hear they do this from the factory?

Cheers for the warm welcome!

[Two Smoker]

Accelrator enrichment pump in a carby is used to give it an extra squirt of fuel to richen it up when you open the throttle fast to stop it bogging down....

My CG bogs down hard if I open the throttle too quick, I hear they do this from the factory?

Cheers for the warm welcome!

Ah ok, sounds like the bike might be running a bit rich..... But ill let someone with a bit more knowledge answer it for you :niceone:

[sAsLEX]

. But most leathers arent tight...
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speak for yourself! mine are starting to get quite comfy after a summer of good food and not too much excersise

[Two Smoker]

speak for yourself! mine are starting to get quite comfy after a summer of good food and not too much excersise

LOL, mine are getting really tight too..... But mines from all the restitching :(

[mikey]

oh an one other thing... if ever caught breaking law on bike watch out for the nasty little boys in the comodores with flashing lights on top... theyll knock you off your bike without hesitation

[inlinefour]

I just got my first motorbike a couple of days ago, and I have a few questions about riding...

I noticed when having a leasurly red through the workshop manual that the gears appear to be straight cut gears, and I noticed when riding that you can easily change gears without the clutch as they are straight cut.... is it bad for the bike to change like that?

Is it sweet to wear jeans while riding or do I need to wear those porno tight leather pants?

Are all helmets safe as each other? I know the full face is obviously safer than the open, but what other differences are there?

Does the carby on the CG110 have no accelerator enrichment pump?

Err, just had a good laugh. Ah no, no-get real riding gear, no-the more expensive generally are better, and no- the CG110 and enrichment should not be used in the same sentince. In fact I never have heard of a CG being used on the road at all away from a farm... :shit:

[Zapf]

hello welcome :)

as far as protection goes leather is the best unless you can afford a titainium armor suit. after you have see the after math of the damage to people wearing jeans you'll have a shock. Cordura are a bit better, but leather is much better.

have a look at ACC's new biker site... it has some fairly good points http://www.rideforever.co.nz

as for helmets in terms of standards... there is the DOT and SNELL M2000 standard, and it is generally accepted that SNELL is a better standard. And FFM have a SNELL M2000 stardard lid that is around 2xx. But also make sure it fits you well, so try a few differnt styles on.

Cheers
Zapf

[avgas]

Is it sweet to wear jeans while riding or do I need to wear those porno tight leather pants?
Are all helmets safe as each other? I know the full face is obviously safer than the open, but what other differences are there?

No jeans are not sufficent, but you do what you have to do.
My titanium rod an its screws are left there to remind meto wear leather pants whenever i can.
As far as helmets go, you really dont want to step backwards once you have worn a good one, and after an accident you can see the difference in quality.
My THH was a mess......where as my Shoei XR 800 didnt even have a scratch on it and in that accident i went head first into a 4wd wheel

[Stevo]

My advice for all it is worth:
Buy the most comfortable Helmet! Comfort is everything and if it is too noisy you can wear plugs, but you CANNOT make it more comfy.
Best place in Chch for riding gear= Leather Direct, for leather or Kevlar. I got Kevlar pants and jacket for $450. Far cheaper than any bike shop and better quality too!

Watch for cagers and animals!

[Stevo]

I always think that if I fall off NO PROTECTIVE GEAR will stop the breaking of my bones but will save numerous stitches and skin grafts!!!!
Aren't I the optimist!

[inlinefour]

I always think that if I fall off NO PROTECTIVE GEAR will stop the breaking of my bones but will save numerous stitches and skin grafts!!!!
Aren't I the optimist!

It sucks. I've been about 8 years since my last good dose, but I can still clearly remember the pain. I'll not be riding without my gear ever, ever again :done:

[What?]

...the CG110 and enrichment should not be used in the same sentince. In fact I never have heard of a CG being used on the road at all away from a farm... :shit:
I think you are thinking of the CT110, Honda. The CG is a road bike with a manually operated clutch.
And no, it does not have an accelerator pump; few small bikes do. If it is bogging down when you open the throttle (esp in lower gears) it is either running rich (easy fix) or the ignition timing is out of whack (also an easy fix)

[TygerTung]

Yeah I think it need a bit of a tune up!

I've got a gas analyser, so I can check the mixture with that, about what air fuel ratio is recomended?

How do you set the timing in these things? they don't have a dizzy to spin around!

[Will]

[QUOTE=TygerTung]I just got my first motorbike a couple of days ago, and I have a few questions about riding...


Welcome.

I see that everyone is helping you out. You will find that the norm with bikers.

We will gladly offer our opinions to help.

I wear a Shoei Syncrotec. I am not a racer and this model lets me socialize because it is a flip full face. Also lets me yell abuse at cages very clearly and succinctly as in they can read my lips! :Oi:

I have a set of Draggin Jeans but only wear them on short around town rides. Otherwise I wear synthetic pants because of all the armour and the winter lining that you can remove. I know that it is hot now but never under estimate the cold. Have heard of a biker dropping dead from hyperthermia.

About the bike. I wouldn't wast too much time and effort on it. You probably wont have it for very long before you want something bigger.

Safe riding out there. Keep the shiney side up and the rubber to the road. :ride:

[White trash]

In fact I never have heard of a CG being used on the road at all away from a farm... :shit:

Well now you've heard of two.

I got a big block though. 125cc of raw power!

[Krayy]

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Leathers are better tight, as it makes you slide, rather than grip and flip you over...
Now this is some handy information that I never knew. Have some rep 2Smoker. Anyone got any info on whether the same applies to cordura?

[merv]

Whether your gears are straight cut or not is not the issue here because the motorbike gearboxes are constant mesh gears. The point is that to engage which gears are driving the bike the selectors move the gears sideways and engage dog clutches. While dog clutches do engage reasonably OK without the clutch, my advice would be use the clutch when you can anyway. Why put undue strain on for no reason. In a racing situation, or when you are hanging on for grim death, sure snick it though without the clutch, the rest of the time why bother. Racing dudes consider the cost/benefit of maintenance versus speed so that they don't care so much about longevity.

Your carburettor will have a simple slide and needle valve and no accelerator pump, but usually the old Hondas ran beautifully unless you twisted the throttle so quick that it bogged it and if you are riding like that you are basically flapping your arms like wings and not riding smoothly anyway. You should be easing the throttle on as the revs build so the motor has a chance to pull cleanly anyway i.e don't pull it onto full throttle just off idle if the bike is hardly moving, build the revs a bit more first. Chances are your engine is getting worn, the advance retard mechanism on the ignition may be getting buggered, and the carb may need cleaning or the float level resetting. You'll just have to work through things one thing at a time to make sure they are all OK.

[Krayy]

...You should be easing the throttle on as the revs build so the motor has a chance to pull cleanly anyway i.e don't pull it onto full throttle just off idel if the bike is hardly moving, build the revs a bit more first...
Or as Mr Miyagi would say, "Roll on, roll off, Daniel-san"

[Slim]

Welcome to the mad house. Leave your sanity at the door & you should fit right in around here. ;)


Buy the best gear you can afford & upgrade it when you can afford better. Get yourself a second-hand leather jacket, some Draggin' jeans, and decent boots (your ankles are very vulnerable remember), oh, and gloves.

Remember that when you're buying a helmet, a proper fit is part of its safety features. If it's too loose, then it won't be able to do its job properly if you crash. Also remember that any major discomforts when you try the helmet on could become major pains after an hour of riding (I find some helmets create pressure points across my forehead - instant headache material). Check this out for some good tips & hints: http://www.cmgonline.com/accessories/buyers_guides/helmets/buying/index.html Again, buy the best that you can afford & upgrade when you can. How much is your head worth????


Krayy - I haven't got any info, but in my mind, armoured cordura gear is no good if it's so loose that the armour's going to shift as soon as you hit the deck & not actually protect what it was designed to protect. It's leather all the way for me, and always has been.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Yeah I think it need a bit of a tune up!

I've got a gas analyser, so I can check the mixture with that, about what air fuel ratio is recomended?

How do you set the timing in these things? they don't have a dizzy to spin around!

Get the manual.... It'll only cost you $50 max and it is worth it.

There is no pump, but the Honda CB250RS has one, dunno if the carb system would fit....

Timing is normally by taking off the rocker cover and shuffling the camchain round so that your marks on the cam gear line up with the head, the T mark is in line on the end of the crank, and the camshaft has the lobes pointing up.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Now this is some handy information that I never knew. Have some rep 2Smoker. Anyone got any info on whether the same applies to cordura?

Probably similar, however cordura is normally designed to be "one crash only" as I understand it, as it tears far easier than leather. Apparently outer pockets are Bad Things on Cordura gear

[XP@]

for the riding gear look at "spool" pants and jacket, about the cheepest on the market and lots of good rep. (lots of big pockets and keeps you dry)

For your helmet, as the others say plus try one from all manufacturers. All head shapes are different and different makes have different shapes.

On getting her to run right...
If you bought her from a shop then ask them to sort it otherwise...
remember the rule "if it ain't broken don't fix it". then apply the rule "simplest / cheepest first". eg bogging down when opening the throttle is rich or timing problem, start with the finding out which it is... warm her up, make sure the choke is off (this makes her run rich) hold a white rag about 3 inches away from the back of the exhaust pipe and blip the throttle, if it is black then you are probably running rich. Poor airfilter maintinence can cause running rich (not enough air passing the muck). So clean / get a new airfilter, if that dosent work then you need a manual or repair shop...

[TygerTung]

I have some very comfy leather safety boots, would those work sweet as riding boots?

How do you turn on the choke? I couldn't really see one?

Nah, I brought it second hand for $300, and it came with a 1967 suzuki T200, but thats dereg, only good for parts really, maybe I could put the motor in a kart?

I noticed the gloves were quite dear, about $100, is this the usual price, or can you get them cheaper, I guess it's worth it if you crash though....

After about 6 months or so, and I feel it's time to move up to a bigger bike, what would you recomend? I sort of like the un-faired style of bike though....

Cheers for all your help everyone!

[Two Smoker]

You can get some nice gloves for about $40-$60....

Next bike unfaired.. Look at the VT250, Honda VTR250 or Yamaha Zeal, Kawasaki ZR250...... Heaps of choice, with about 35-40hp and good for 160kmh....

[Coyote]

Next bike unfaired.. Look at the VT250, Honda VTR250 or Yamaha Zeal, Kawasaki ZR250...... Heaps of choice, with about 35-40hp and good for 160kmh....
Honda CBR250RR without fairing :eek:

[Blakamin]

workboots suck... you slide down the road and they slide off yer feet.... not a pretty picture!!!

[TygerTung]

I also don't want to spend too much money on a , about max 1500? Could I get a bike for that much? I could save up...

[Stevo]

You could off trademe or private sale. The trouble is you are not always sure what you are getting. I would suggest PMing someone like Kickaha who is a pretty decent sorta fella, (or possibly Dangerous tho I have only met him once and don't know very well) and they will be more than happy to help you if you ask, and thank them!

Be patient if going on trademe or something, and as you already have a bike there is presumably no screaming hurry cos at least you are still on the road.
Be a bit picky and something may come your way.

Sift on down to leather Direct sometime in the weekend, and just have a browse at gear and what it is worth. I think sometimes they may even have second hand stuff..........

Good luck chap, :2thumbsup
Stevo

[Sniper]

In fact I never have heard of a CG being used on the road at all away from a farm... :shit:

Hey I used to have a CG, bloody reliable bikes until the bike ummm errr seized. (Not my fault)

I feel like a dick answering the question but I have had no time to read the entire thread. No the CG110 does not have and enricher thingiemabop and yep its ok to shift upwards through the gears with no cluth but as TS said but idea other way around.

Have fun on theis site mate, you will meet and greet many weirdos here and learn to ignore the others.

[Sniper]

oh an one other thing... if ever caught breaking law on bike watch out for the nasty little boys in the comodores with flashing lights on top... theyll knock you off your bike without hesitation

Guess what Mikey, your mother hates you and so do most of us :ar15:

[SuperDave]

Hi and welcome to the site. Get some good gear and actually wear it, you will certainly know the difference when the time comes.

[XP@]

Boots:
You could possibly get away with work boots with laces tight and wrapped at the top. I used to use fireman boots with the lace in zip. but standing on metal pegs ate the side of the sole.

Bike boots generally have excellent ankle support and are made with a thicker grade leather. choice of motox or road boots, road boots are easier to walk in.