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vindy500
2nd October 2008, 01:03
my laptops having issues, the only way i can turn it on outside of safe mode is by disabling my video card, this isnt exactly desirable. even with it off (or in safe mode) my screen is covered with all these pink dashes (but not on dark parts of pictures)

any ideas?

no-coast-punk
2nd October 2008, 03:06
That sucks.

It's definately a hardware problem. If you are comfy ripping into expensive electronics get the chipset and memory blocks on the video card exposed. There should be a heatsink on the chipset and sometimes the memory blocks. If the heatsinks get dislodged that can happen. Memory gets hot and the transistors start blinking out and dropping bits of data.

It could also be an issue with the video card itself coming dislodged from the socket on the motherboard. Ever play old school Nintendo games? If you did I'm sure that pattern looks kinda familiar. Make sure the board hasn't started to work loose from the motherboard and that no debris has found a way into the contacts.

Slicksta
2nd October 2008, 03:54
Gutted sounds like a hardware falt...
i would try these drivers first...
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

marioc
2nd October 2008, 07:09
Artifacts like that are usually a result of heat or just a rooted card,check the card temps and make sure the fan is not clogged with dust

bobsmith
2nd October 2008, 07:24
Is it just that your photo is a mirror image or is your whole screen coming up in mirror image of what it's supposed to be?

Now THAT's a really odd problem.... :shit:

CookMySock
2nd October 2008, 07:41
Boot any Desktop Linux CD on it and see what it says.

Steve

OutForADuck
2nd October 2008, 08:05
Might not be a hardware fault.. check your latest updates for video drivers... the dreaded Auto update might just have killed your video off. Also try checking your hardware acceleration settings (might also have changed after an update).

If you don't know how to check your update schedule, drop me a PM.

Hardware usually fails outright and you wouldn't be able to get it to run, even at lower res etc.... it could be but I would suspect drivers first and foremost

Cheers.

OutForADuck
2nd October 2008, 08:07
Ooops just noticed the "my screen is covered with all these pink dashes".... that is not a good sign unless you have a seating problem with the card :shit:

vindy500
2nd October 2008, 12:32
Boot any Desktop Linux CD on it and see what it says.

Steve

my usb puppy was a mess of the boot screen and the icons on top of it, couldnt click on anything...


screens not mirror image, just photo was flipped... was taken from a macbooks built in camera lol.

I would assume all the stuffs integrated, if i got inside do you think pishing stuff around might help?

vindy500
2nd October 2008, 12:35
oh and to boot outside of safe mode i had to disable the video card... but the pink lines still there

CookMySock
2nd October 2008, 15:20
my usb puppy was a mess of the boot screen and the icons on top of it, couldnt click on anything...


screens not mirror image, just photo was flipped... was taken from a macbooks built in camera lol.oop! sounds like its toast. Sell on TM for $1 res.

Does it have TV out? Does the TV out work? Does everything else work ok? Make it into a media box.


I would assume all the stuffs integrated, if i got inside do you think pishing stuff around might help?Heh, every PC I put my fingers in dies shortly after, so you are better not to take my advice there. :woohoo:

Steve

pete376403
2nd October 2008, 20:34
if its a laptop its won't have a separate video card or even a socket mounted (ie repluggable) video controller chip. New motherboard time.
There is the off chance that the heatsink has been dislodged.
What brand/model of lappie?

Headbanger
2nd October 2008, 21:23
Send it in for repair, and not to anyone who suggested the video "card" has come loose.:crazy:

Widespread problems reported (millions) with recent nvidia laptop chipsets, nvidia have even acknowledged they shipped faulty hardware.

R6_kid
3rd October 2008, 16:02
Turns out you're gay, the video card was the first thing to notice and has just taken appropriate action. Either that or you've been sinbinned on KB and given the pink screen, just that it's managed to filter through on to the rest of your computer.

vindy500
3rd October 2008, 23:33
took it apart last night took all the heatsinks out, removed the video chip (yes it has one which plugs onto the board) and replaced everything, removed a lot of dust lol and the fan works alot better now, but still has the lines etc. the laptop is a zepto 6214W

Headbanger
4th October 2008, 09:50
removed the video chip (yes it has one which plugs onto the board)

If I owned a hat I would eat it about now.

pete376403
4th October 2008, 20:36
Me too - I haven't seen a laptop with pluggable components (other than RAM, modem/wifi ) in ages. I looked up Zepto and it appears you've got a pretty nice machine. Where did you get it?
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3097&review=Zepto+6214W

no-coast-punk
5th October 2008, 00:40
Laptops are slowly getting back to modular/removable components. It's cheaper/easier for the manufacturers to have different levels of hardware without having to come up with some new and exotic PCB for each individual model.

To the OP: How badly were the heat sinks/fans clogged?

vindy500
5th October 2008, 13:27
To the OP: How badly were the heat sinks/fans clogged?

pretty solidly a. made a mess with all the dust, got it second hand from someone who imported it

no-coast-punk
5th October 2008, 14:25
Damn... no good man.

Sounds like the lack of airflow cooked all the nice solid state bits.

Check e-bay for a replacement video card. The mobile chip sets are pretty standard. Like... there isn't a Toshiba/Dell/Sony specific 7600. All the 7600 mobile boards should all be the same.

It's VERY rare that the PCI bus controller cooks in a case that the video card is still kinda functional. The card itself draws the most current. The onboard bus on the motherboard not so much. The bus is probably OK. Card not so much. Good news = video card replaceable and should fix the problem.

vindy500
5th October 2008, 19:34
but if i disable the video card the lines are still there, the lines are even there on the boot screen... could it still be the chip?

would this be something zepto could fix if i sent it back?

pete376403
5th October 2008, 19:48
but if i disable the video card the lines are still there, the lines are even there on the boot screen... could it still be the chip?

would this be something zepto could fix if i sent it back?
If Zepto couldn't fix it I guess no-one could. But you'd be sending it to Denmark - you'd be without it for quite a while.

Do you have householders insurance...?:innocent:

vindy500
5th October 2008, 23:25
Do you have householders insurance...?:innocent:

negative :(

i have bought a temp desktop in the mean time as it is currently unusable, guess i wouldnt have anything to lose if i sent it back

no-coast-punk
6th October 2008, 01:00
How are you disabling the video card?

Something like running safe mode uses a set of simpler reduced capability drivers.... but the card hardware is still being used to render the images.

Using the s-video output still uses the video card.

Unless you have a second video card bouncing around in there... disabling the video card would result in 0 picture.

vindy500
6th October 2008, 12:14
How are you disabling the video card?

Something like running safe mode uses a set of simpler reduced capability drivers.... but the card hardware is still being used to render the images.

Using the s-video output still uses the video card.

Unless you have a second video card bouncing around in there... disabling the video card would result in 0 picture.

oh right, was simply disabling the video card driver in the hardware profiles

Salival
6th October 2008, 19:46
From the look of it, I'd say either your panel is fucked or the interface cable to the panel is fucked.

I haven't read the entire thread though, not sure if this is only a problem when you're not in safe mode. If that's the case then it probably isn't a hardware problem, although I wouldn't rule out the (generally) lower resolution of safe mode playing into that somewhat.

vindy500
6th October 2008, 23:59
just got off the phone to zepto, they reckon i need a new motherboard and graphics chip, about $700, if i got it fixed how much do you guys reckon i could trade me it for. specs:
2Ghz dual core, 2gig of ram nvidia 7600 go graphics with 512VRam, 120gig hard drive

pete376403
7th October 2008, 22:22
If you spent $700 on it, why not keep it? It's good quite reasonable specs.
On the other hand it's a pretty rare brand - I just had a look on E-bay and there isn't a single instance of Zepto.

vindy500
7th October 2008, 23:29
If you spent $700 on it, why not keep it? It's good quite reasonable specs.
On the other hand it's a pretty rare brand - I just had a look on E-bay and there isn't a single instance of Zepto.

Well mainly coz im a computer whore and will have a bit of spare cash soon if i get a job over summer. (anyone in palmy hiring :))