Do you use indicators?

[piston broke]

sorry but after 20 years riding i still don't.took a while to do a seatbelt up too.
i'm scared shiteless about leaving a left hander on.
i do though hand signal.
i,ve noticed lately more people using them,also noted are more peep's leavin them on.

idea's, thoughts.

[idleidolidyll]

I use them when needed and not at other times. If I'm at the front of a couple of bikes and the opportunity comes to pass a slow vehicle quickly, i concentrate on that task first and foremost.

if i'm in town in a queue of cars i'll always signal

i reckon some of our road rules actually reduce concentration on driving.

speeding is a classic: how often do YOU look at the speedo? I reckon i look at mine every few seconds...........and for all those seconds i'm not looking at where i'm going

duh!

no occifer, i don't know how farkin fast i wuz going, i was too busy concentrating on driving well to the conditions.

[Creeping Death]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left which is rubbish to me,otherwise I follow the law.Indicate when turning,remember you have turned(surely can't be that hard)push indicator in to turn it off.:done:

[98tls]

sorry but after 20 years riding i still don't.took a while to do a seatbelt up too.
i'm scared shiteless about leaving a left hander on.
i do though hand signal.
i,ve noticed lately more people using them,also noted are more peep's leavin them on.

idea's, thoughts. 30 something years of riding and always used them,methinks not using them could well be worse.

[Virago]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left...

Gah...! Thud.:thud:

[mrchips]

Where i live - cage indicators are for display purposes only.

[more_fasterer]

do you use indicators

Only to confuse people

[Creeping Death]

Gah...! Thud.:thud:

How many peeps actually do at roundabouts?The way I see it,you indicate when TURNING...changing lanes is a different kettle of fish if ya wanna take that angle.Otherwise I see no valid reason to indicate at a roundabout.Unless your turning of course...

[Slyer]

Always, even when changing lanes on a motorway with no one else in sight.
Except on roundabouts.

[Gubb]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left which is rubbish to me,otherwise I follow the law.Indicate when turning,remember you have turned(surely can't be that hard)push indicator in to turn it off.:done:

Wrong.

You only indicate left out of the roundabout if going straight through.

Why is this simple concept so widely misunderstood?

[idleidolidyll]

Where i live - cage indicators are for display purposes only.

sounds like new zedland

[Virago]

How many peeps actually do at roundabouts?...

Lots. But if you actually think that you use your right indicator to go straight ahead, you might be wise not to use them at all.

[Creeping Death]

Wrong.

You only indicate left out of the roundabout if going straight through.

Why is this simple concept so widely misunderstood?

Ermmm not as I understand it...I've even been behind a Police car that indicated right then left going straight through...

[McJim]

Ermmm not as I understand it...I've even been behind a Police car that indicated right then left going straight through...

He must have got a call out part way round. It is actually illegal to indicate right on the approach to a roundabout and then go straight ahead instead of right. The belief that the law is otherwise is due to either poor wording when the fucked up give way law was introduced or poor comprehension by a huge number of New Zealanders as I see it happen a lot.

[Virago]

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roadcode/about-driving/giving-way-at-roundabouts.html

"If you are going 'straight' through a roundabout:

- don't signal as you come up to the roundabout.
- signal left as you pass the exit before the one you wish to take.
- At some small roundabouts it may not be possible to give three seconds warning, but it is courteous to give as much indication as you can."

[Headbanger]

http://www.drivingschool-online.co.nz/roundabouts.html

[idleidolidyll]

Ermmm not as I understand it...I've even been behind a Police car that indicated right then left going straight through...

i wouldn't give the pigs any credit for extra intelligence.....

[Trouser]

Ermmm not as I understand it...I've even been behind a Police car that indicated right then left going straight through...

Super duper wrong.

Roundabouts

What exactly does the rule require me to do at roundabouts?
You must signal where you intend to exit the roundabout upon your approach and give way to all traffic that will cross your path from your right as you enter the roundabout.
When leaving the roundabout, you should signal left as you pass the exit before the one you intend taking.

from http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/road-user-safety/new-road-rules/rur-qas.html#general

You might ask 'How do I signal my intent to exit straight ahead'? You don't use any signal. As has always been the case.

[Creeping Death]

My solution,use hazard lights when going straight through...dang!ACC levies should pay for bikes to get fitted...:niceone:

[Griffin]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left

Its people with your thinking that infuriate the begeezus outta me when they do indicate like that - especially if I have stopped to give way to them.

As Gubb says - it is a simple concept - and I know its already been explained but I will add my 2c.

At roundabouts:

When turning left, signal left, turn left.
When turning right, signal right, turn right, as you approach your exit from the roundabout, re-indicate your intention to leave the roundabout by signalling left, take your exit.
When going straight through, do not signal, enter the roundabout and as you approach your exit (while in the roundabout) then indicate your intention to leave the roundabout by signalling left, take your exit.

easy ay??? :msn-wink:

[Griffin]

My solution,use hazard lights when going straight through...dang!ACC levies should pay for bikes to get fitted...

urrrrm - most bikes do have hazard lights... :mellow:

[Gubb]

My solution,use hazard lights when going straight through...dang!ACC levies should pay for bikes to get fitted...:niceone:

Here's a wild idea, now that you know the right way to do it, try that instead. Perhaps you can lower all of our ACC levies by avoiding that accident that you may cause...

[piston broke]

hey thread thieves,lol
this was meant to be about indicators on bikes and how you use them.if at all.
p.s i alllways use them in the crate.neeever on the bike.
roundabouts,please don't get me started

[Creeping Death]

Its people with your thinking that infuriate the begeezus outta me when they do indicate like that - especially if I have stopped to give way to them.

As Gubb says - it is a simple concept - and I know its already been explained but I will add my 2c.

At roundabouts:

When turning left, signal left, turn left.
When turning right, signal right, turn right, as you approach your exit from the roundabout, re-indicate your intention to leave the roundabout by signalling left, take your exit.
When going straight through, do not signal, enter the roundabout and as you approach your exit (while in the roundabout) then indicate your intention to leave the roundabout by signalling left, take your exit.

easy ay??? :msn-wink:

Mate,I don't think like that,I've been on the otherside of roundabouts where many folks have indicated right,me waiting for them to pass me only for them to suddenly shove the indicator left...usually the blue rinse cage driver variety...but yeah,point taken.

[McJim]

I always use my indicators unless there are no other road users about. After I turn a corner I habitually cancel my indicators...even if I haven't used them...just a habit...change up, cancel indicators...just in case.

[Griffin]

hey thread thieves,lol
this was meant to be about indicators on bikes and how you use them

Oh shit... sorry. ummm... Yes - I do.

And I even use them correctly at roundabouts :eek:

[Creeping Death]

urrrrm - most bikes do have hazard lights... :mellow:

Unless I missed somethin...mine don't...

[McJim]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left

I've been seeing this done and hearing people believe this an awful lot. Since you believed it until the kind denizens of KB educated you otherwise could you please please tell me where this stupid, annoying and dangerous myth originated? i.e. who told you it was the law?

Cheers.

[Quailboy]

I get friggin' frustrated if I'm a passenger and the rider/driver doesn't use their indicators properly, also other road users for that matter.

But then I find I dont use them properly either sometimes- though I do try and they are used properly when they have to be.

Since I am a n00b learner I find it really hard to use the gears while concentrating on clutch, accelerator, gears, direction, balance, road position etc etc... They are way harder to use than a cage until you get used to it.

[Creeping Death]

I've been seeing this done and hearing people believe this an awful lot. Since you believed it until the kind denizens of KB educated you otherwise could you please please tell me where this stupid, annoying and dangerous myth originated? i.e. who told you it was the law?

Cheers.

Seeing a cop car do it.

[Griffin]

Mate,I don't think like that,I've been on the otherside of roundabouts where many folks have indicated right,me waiting for them to pass me only for them to suddenly shove the indicator left...

Ohhhh... I see. So you take your beliefs about how road rules work from observing other peoples ignorant behaviour and poor driving practice???

Just :Pokey: with ya. I hope the replies in here have cleared it up for anybody who had that mistaken belief.

[piston broke]

hi jim,
cheers, i hope your lady and bike are all together again.
yep, i guess i could make it a habit.
but i still see to many bikes on a straight bit of road with an indicator going.
also this is my first bike that you just push the button.lol the most of my bikes you need a winch to move the switch

[Quailboy]

Seeing a cop car do it.

Maybe, as said, he/she decided she wasn't going that particular way anymore, or got called to a scene or saw someone breaking the law. The rules have been made clear.

Cops are human, humans make mistakes.

[cruser]

I was pulled over by a revenue collector :Police: other day while lane spitting he said I have to use my indicators when changing for lane to lane even while lane spitting :stupid:

[Griffin]

many folks have indicated right,me waiting for them to pass me only for them to suddenly shove the indicator left...usually the blue rinse cage driver variety...


Seeing a cop car do it.

:confused: See a lot of cops with a blue rinse in your area do ya?

Sorry - starting to feel like Im picking on ya :shit:

[Creeping Death]

Ohhhh... I see. So you take your beliefs about how road rules work from observing other peoples ignorant behaviour and poor driving practice???

Just :Pokey: with ya. I hope the replies in here have cleared it up for anybody who had that mistaken belief.

No worries mate!I'll still just treat 'em as I always have done...till the plod tickets me!:whistle:

[McJim]

yep, i guess i could make it a habit.

21 times will make it a habit....honest.

[Creeping Death]

I was pulled over by a revenue collector :Police: other day while lane spitting he said I have to use my indicators when changing for lane to lane even while lane spitting :stupid:

As long as you stay to the left of the white line and under the sped limit,there legally is nothing they can do.

[idleidolidyll]

on roundabouts when i'm going straight through on the motard, i never indicate as i ride in a straight line across the middle

it works better if there's a little grassy mound in the middle you can jump off at the other end

no indicator necessary

[piston broke]

primo .....

[Creeping Death]

:laugh::Punk:

[Jerry74]

Always use them, too many crazy cage drivers out there

[MD]

I ALWAYS INDICATE. It don't care that it is a legal requirement. It's just a basic courtesy and it's life saving. Mind you, so is not speeding and I'm struggling with that one :doh:.

Most vehicles come with Owners manuals with full instructions on how to operate the indicator switch. Anyone too dumb to follow those instructions - is too dumb to drive/ride.

It pays to indicate before overtaking when in group rides. The last thing I want is to start moving out right to overtake and some clown behind me thinks the cool thing to do is a supersonic flyby both of us. Seen that happen so many times.

Indicating helps the car about to be overtaken, it alerts everyone behind, everyone in lanes beside you. It alerts any vehicle poking its nose out of a drive/side road ahead...the list goes on. What's not hard to understand about the benefits of that?

I can't figure out why people don't indicate when turning, changing lanes etc. It's not like it causes bad breath, adds to your electricity bill, burns up excessive fuel, wears out your clutch....

Oh, has this topic hit a raw nerve. Sorry. Lucky no one brought up the subject of people who don't understand how to indicate at round abouts- now that really sets me off :2guns:

[piston broke]

yep jerry.
i dunno if they are a good thing though.
i've seen so many peeps driving along with them on for no reason,always take them with a grain of salt anyway

[scracha]

Wot MD says. People too lazy/stupid/selfish to indicate should have their license revoked. The "forgetting to turn it off" thing is bollocks. If you can't see a flashing light on your dash within 30s then perhaps then again you shouldn't be driving.

[Lucy]

Wrong.

You only indicate left out of the roundabout if going straight through.

Why is this simple concept so widely misunderstood?

I think it's misunderstood because it was actually always the same, only they made a big song and dance about the rules 'changing' and so lots of people have assumed what the person you were quoting thinks.

[turtleman]

urrrrm - most bikes do have hazard lights... :mellow:

urrrm - no they don't ... :mellow:

(would be nice if they all did, tho' )

[Lucy]

I use them when needed and not at other times. .


I always use them (unless I'm in a pickle and trying really hard not to fall off). I've been in the car with a mate too many times who has your approach, and because it's not automatic, they do forget sometimes, and a 'oops sorry' when they've pissed someone off, is not good enough. IMO.

[piston broke]

scratcha,
30's is a long time.
one could pass more than 1 left hander in that time with a blinker flashin hardout that you're turnin left'when you have only left it on for 30;s
sorry but it will take a bigger reason for me to use indicators than a hand signal.
fark,i must be ancient.
also all,
come on make my first ever topic a fiddy.lol

[idleidolidyll]

I always use them (unless I'm in a pickle and trying really hard not to fall off). I've been in the car with a mate too many times who has your approach, and because it's not automatic, they do forget sometimes, and a 'oops sorry' when they've pissed someone off, is not good enough. IMO.

eye drive a big 4wd so that doesn't need em either; i OWN the road!

[McJim]

drive a big 4wd so that doesn't need em either; i OWN the road!
Have you changed yer name to LTNZ or summat? :rofl:

[idleidolidyll]

Have you changed yer name to LTNZ or summat? :rofl:

actually, i WORK for LTNZ, just not the LTNZ you're thinking of

[Creeping Death]

[QUOTE=MD;1754640

Most vehicles come with Owners manuals with full instructions on how to operate the indicator switch. Anyone too dumb to follow those instructions - is too dumb to drive/ride[/QUOTE]

Who the bluddy hell reads instructions?Most vehicles?2nd hand(which many buy)don't have "instruction"books...purleeezee...

[Creeping Death]

Thowy,my quote thingy didn't work!:shit:

[idleidolidyll]

Who the bluddy hell reads instructions?Most vehicles?2nd hand(which many buy)don't have "instruction"books...purleeezee...

anyone dumb enough to have to read a manual to operate the indicators shouldn't be driving anything

[Creeping Death]

anyone dumb enough to have to read a manual to operate the indicators shouldn't be driving anything

Indeed brutha...indeed.

[piston broke]

id
peace out

[xgnr]

Always indicate... its rude not to :lol:

think about it, there is some poor bugger waiting up the road waiting for you to come past and you turn off ... that pisses me off

[Skyryder]

Wrong.

You only indicate left out of the roundabout if going straight through.

Why is this simple concept so widely misunderstood?


You'd need to ask those that get it wrong.

1 Indicating left entering the roundabout and going straight through.
2 Indicating right entering the roundabout and going straight through
3 Indicating right after entering the roundabout and going straight through.
4 indicating left before entering the roundabout and going straight through
5 Indicating right before entering the roundabout and going straight through
6 Not indicating and going straight through.



And I have not mentioned the larger two laned roundabouts where those on the left lane who should be in the righthand lane and are turning right cut right in front of you. Lost count of how many of these dopes have nearly wiped me out.

Skyryder

[98tls]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:still going,bugger me.Sell the bike and buy a playstation or whatever the fuck there called,no pain involved.

[dipshit]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left which is rubbish to me

It doesn't. Have you actually ever read the road code? Please then show me where it says to...???

Only idiot road users think that.

[dipshit]

Wrong.
You only indicate left out of the roundabout if going straight through.
Why is this simple concept so widely misunderstood?

Because there are so many brainless fucking morons on the roads in this country.

[The Stranger]

Use indicators?
No way, it's no body elses bloody business where I'm going.

[Katman]

I also seem to remember when the new roundabout indicating rules were brought in that the idea was to indicate right when entering and then indicating left even when going straight through. I remember thinking at the time that it was absolute bullshit and having arguments with my wife because I refused to do it. They must have come to their senses and amended the ruling soon afterwards.

[dipshit]

I also seem to remember when the new roundabout indicating rules were brought in that the idea was to indicate right when entering and then indicating left even when going straight through.

I just googled "new roundabout indicating rules" and got this....

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/road-user-safety/new-road-rules/

"The 'Road User' Rule changes of 27 February 2005 clarified what you should do at pedestrian crossings, special vehicle lanes (such as cycle and bus lanes) and roundabouts (particularly multi-lane roundabouts).

Before entering a roundabout you must indicate if you are intending to exit left or right – if you’re going straight ahead, don’t indicate."



Now I can distinctively remember there wasn't much of a problem of people indicating entering a roundabout when they were going straight through, on the few roundabouts in Dunedin... but a few years ago after there was a full page ad in the ODT showing how to indicate at roundabouts - particularly showing not to indicate entering if going straight through, only to indicate when exiting...

...after this advertisement campaign - people started getting all confused and I noticed from ever since vehicles incorrectly indicating when entering even though they were going straight through.

The conclusion I drew from this - is that people can't read and understand plain english.

Unless there was an even earlier rule that said to indicate when entering even if going straight. I would be very interested to see if anybody could find it in writing. Has someone got an older road code?

Or is this another urban myth?

[varminter]

A significant number of cage drivers would get confused if you put them in a barrel and told then to piss in the corner. Signaling is just too hard, I mean WTF all those knobs and the big round thing and the mobile and the haircut adjustment and where did I leave the sunglasses and lets adjust the seat too:done:

[yungatart]

Always! Even at roundabouts (correctly, of course)
Doesn't matter if I'm caged or on the bike...I didn't realise the rules were different depending on what vehicle you used :gob:

[sunhuntin]

always, including roundabouts. however, this doesnt include when its damn obvious which way im going. ie, a forked road where the only options are left and right and theres a honking huge road island between the two directional lanes. then i dont bother. i have forgotten to turn them off a handful of times, but usually the flashing orange light annoys me enough to look at it.

[GrayWolf]

Having learnt to ride and passed an advanced test in the UK, the premise I work on is to asses the situation and use indicators when and if I feel they are needed.
One thing I do find 'usefull' on roundabouts if I see a car that looks like the driver is edging on the clutch is to use the good ole hand signal. It doesnt seem to be used much if at all and the 'strange' action performed by the silly man on the 2 wheel thingy that should get out of my way tends to make them look and pause.

[Horse]

I always use my indicators unless there are no other road users about. After I turn a corner I habitually cancel my indicators...even if I haven't used them...just a habit...change up, cancel indicators...just in case.

My indicators cancel themselves. Reading about them I thought they'd be a bit unreliable but in practice they work bloody well.

[DarkLord]

Always. Unless I forget. Then I don't. Because I've forgotten. But otherwise. Always.

[buellbabe]

Yep most of the time, AND I check over my shoulder as well as checking my mirrors.

I say that I use the indicators MOST of the time cos if I am on an open stretch of road with nothing coming in the opposite direction and aware that there is nothing behind me about to overtake ME then I don't bother indicating to pass a lone car...

And yep I ALWAYS wear a seatbelt when driving a car...

[xwhatsit]

I do find myself using hand-signals from time to time. It seems, as Gra(e?)yWolf said, cagers do a bit of a `WTF?' and pay attention when you use them, more so than a little blinkenlight.

I indicate even when I think I'm the only person around within a kilometre. I don't know why, but it's courteous (hanging around waiting to give way to somebody that you didn't need to does piss me off).

And yes, people who signal right when going straight through roundabouts are fucking brainless and should have their cars/motorcycles taken to with a cricket bat until they see sense :D

[slofox]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left which is rubbish to me,otherwise I follow the law.Indicate when turning,remember you have turned(surely can't be that hard)push indicator in to turn it off.:done:

I question that the law says "you must indicate right then left". My understanding is that when travelling straight through you do NOT indicate right but you do indicate left before you exit.......?

Otherwise I always use indicators when appropriate.

[Daffyd]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left which is rubbish to me,otherwise I follow the law.Indicate when turning,remember you have turned(surely can't be that hard)push indicator in to turn it off.:done:

No... the law states that if going straight through you indicate before turning OUT of the roundabout. You only signal right if actually turning right.

[slimjim]

either - or..personally...like to do it..only informs drivers (hopefully if they're paying attention)...

[Daffyd]

I also seem to remember when the new roundabout indicating rules were brought in that the idea was to indicate right when entering and then indicating left even when going straight through. I remember thinking at the time that it was absolute bullshit and having arguments with my wife because I refused to do it. They must have come to their senses and amended the ruling soon afterwards.

I believe that the indicate right thing when going straight through was never part of the rules. I believe it was misunderstood and consequently misreported by either a minion in LTNZ or the press. (ISTBC)

[Rosie]

I indicate even when I think I'm the only person around within a kilometre. I don't know why, but it's courteous (hanging around waiting to give way to somebody that you didn't need to does piss me off).

:yes: It's very important that the people you haven't seen know what you are doing, and can react accordingly.
When I've got the car or the motorbike, I hardly ever have near misses caused by people not indicating. On the pushbike, or when I'm crossing the road on foot, it happens a lot. One day I'm going to get run over by someone not indicating because "there was no-one around" :oi-grr:

[wysper]

I always indicate too. Even when there is no one around. Like mentioned above, just because you don't know they are there, doens't mean they aren't.

Plus I am in the habit of indicating so might as well keep doing it.
Passing a lone car, I will indicate too.

As to hazzard lights. The SV is the first bike I have ever owned that has hazzard lights. I was stoked to find out it had them. Although took a minute or two to figure out how it worked. You turn the hazzards on, which turns on the right indicator, then you use the indicators to trun on the left indicator and 'bobs your uncle' HAZZARD LIGHTS

[dipshit]

Although took a minute or two to figure out how it worked. You turn the hazzards on, which turns on the right indicator, then you use the indicators to trun on the left indicator and 'bobs your uncle' HAZZARD LIGHTS

Something is broken then. All indicators should come on just by pressing the hazard button. Just like in a car.

[MarkH]

:yes: It's very important that the people you haven't seen know what you are doing, and can react accordingly.
When I've got the car or the motorbike, I hardly ever have near misses caused by people not indicating. On the pushbike, or when I'm crossing the road on foot, it happens a lot. One day I'm going to get run over by someone not indicating because "there was no-one around" :oi-grr:

I have had similar experiences - on foot it really pisses me off when I wait cross the road, but the car turns and I didn't need to wait after all - try indicating arsehole! Grrrrrr!!!!!

[OutForADuck]

Use them religiously, but treat everyone else’s as if they only prove the bulb works :pinch:

[buellbabe]

:yes: It's very important that the people you haven't seen know what you are doing, and can react accordingly.
When I've got the car or the motorbike, I hardly ever have near misses caused by people not indicating. On the pushbike, or when I'm crossing the road on foot, it happens a lot. One day I'm going to get run over by someone not indicating because "there was no-one around" :oi-grr:

You are so right. I am feeling guilty...seems I need a refresher-lesson in defensive riding/driving.:spanking:
YEAH! just cos you haven't seen them doesn't mean there isn't some idiot lurking waiting to take ya out!!! :2guns:

[wysper]

Something is broken then. All indicators should come on just by pressing the hazard button. Just like in a car.

Bugger! I guess my weekend may be spent tracing electrics :sherlock:

[trumpy]

I believe that the indicate right thing when going straight through was never part of the rules. I believe it was misunderstood and consequently misreported by either a minion in LTNZ or the press. (ISTBC)

Actually misreported by one press service then simply repeated by the others. Only smart thing Gary Knapstead ever did was come on the radio (and possibly tv) and publicly correct it....broadcast ONCE of course so that every driver/rider in the country heard it......not. Not that it would have made any difference to 99% of them anyway even if they did know.......I drive 75 to 80,000ks a year and have become a tad cynical about most drivers ability to understand ANY road rules whatever, particurlarly that really simple on abut driving to the LEFT of the centreline.

Grumble over, it's late and I have had to edit this four times....the drugs are cutting in....six hours of unconciousness will follow very soon.........................sorry.......:sleep:

[Daffyd]

Actually misreported by one press service then simply repeated by the others. Only smart thing Gary Knapstead ever did was come on the radio (and possibly tv) and publicly correct it....broadcast ONCE of course so that every driver/rider in the country heard it......not. Not that it would have made any difference to 99% of them anyway even if they did know.......I drive 75 to 80,000ks a year and have become a tad cynical about most drivers ability to understand ANY road rules whatever, particurlarly that really simple on abut driving to the LEFT of the centreline.

Grumble over, it's late and I have had to edit this four times....the drugs are cutting in....six hours of unconciousness will follow very soon.........................sorry.......:sleep:

I take it you're referring to Andy Knackstead, (Knutsack).

As far as understanding the rules, I think a lot understand the simpler ones...but are just too bloody lazy to stick to them.

[PrincessBandit]

I always use my indicators unless there are no other road users about. After I turn a corner I habitually cancel my indicators...even if I haven't used them...just a habit...change up, cancel indicators...just in case.
Me too, and have discovered that there have been a few times my thumb has not actually activated it, only flicked over the surface on it!

I also seem to remember when the new roundabout indicating rules were brought in that the idea was to indicate right when entering and then indicating left even when going straight through. I remember thinking at the time that it was absolute bullshit and having arguments with my wife because I refused to do it. They must have come to their senses and amended the ruling soon afterwards.
I heard that too and thought the same thing. (And no, I didn't hear it from Katman.......) lol

My indicators cancel themselves. Reading about them I thought they'd be a bit unreliable but in practice they work bloody well.
I'd love self-cancelling ones.

I believe that the indicate right thing when going straight through was never part of the rules. I believe it was misunderstood and consequently misreported by either a minion in LTNZ or the press. (ISTBC)
Ah.

Isn't there something in the motorcycle road code specifically regarding the use and subsequent importance of cancelling them in order not to confuse other road users? (I'm too lazy to go check). But then how many people read the road code - all you need to do is learn by trial and error in the public domain surely....... ;) I mean, it IS everyone elses job to stay out of your way isn't it, no matter how erratically you might drive/ride or confusing your signalling might be?????

[sunhuntin]

Something is broken then. All indicators should come on just by pressing the hazard button. Just like in a car.

my bikes got a separate hazard button. indicators are on the left hand side, with hazard on the right. ive only had to use them a couple of times, and both times were in conditions i was less than happy with, while being followed too close by cars. [one was lyttleton tunnel, and the other was between natl park and turangi one very foggy day!] yes, i used them while moving, and yes, all cars backed off until they could overtake safely.

and the roundabout rules... everybody fucks them up. for a while, i felt like the only person in town who knew how to do it properly... even the cops were fucking it up. going straight, you dont indicate UNTIL you are exiting, at which point you indicate left. pretty simple really.

[EtheB]

I don't indicate when going straight through a roundabout,law says you must indicate right then left which is rubbish to me,otherwise I follow the law.Indicate when turning,remember you have turned(surely can't be that hard)push indicator in to turn it off.:done:

Don't know about law - but, when approaching a roundabout and intending to turn left I indicate as I approach and cancel as soon as I've turned.
When going straight over, no indicator as I approach, then left indicator as soon as I pass the junction prior to the one I'm exiting at.
For right turn at roundabout, indicate right as I approach roundabout, then indicate left as I pass the junction prior to the one I'm exiting at.

Pretty much standard practice all over the world.

[Monsterbishi]

Don't know about law - but, when approaching a roundabout and intending to turn left I indicate as I approach and cancel as soon as I've turned.
When going straight over, no indicator as I approach, then left indicator as soon as I pass the junction prior to the one I'm exiting at.
For right turn at roundabout, indicate right as I approach roundabout, then indicate left as I pass the junction prior to the one I'm exiting at.

Pretty much standard practice all over the world.

Yeah gods, here I was thinking that there were only 4 people in New Zealand who could grasp the simple indicator law we have here, and you prove me wrong, you're number 5!

[Owl]

Yeah gods, here I was thinking that there were only 4 people in New Zealand who could grasp the simple indicator law we have here, and you prove me wrong, you're number 5!

Count me as 6, though I choose to ignore them.:laugh: I'm usually pretty good with indicating and switching them off. Only exception is overtaking sometimes and roundabouts.

[homer]

i use them all the time , usually when i forget its on or if i bump it .