GNCC 11th October - Woodhill

[A&R]

Who will be there then? :rockon:

Got another bike so keen to have another go. See if I can actully beat anyone LOL. :scooter::2guns: Might need to see you though Danger sort out the wanky suspension on this new bike.:crazy:

[clmintie]

Oooohhh...what did ya get..?? :drool::drool:

[barty5]

Yeh me and ruppert will be there. And if anyone is keen havin BBq and drinks most of sunday watchin bathurst 1000.

[chop]

Ill be there....

[noobi]

probably gonna do this one
first cross country:2thumbsup
should be interesting
how many people usually turn up per class??

[cheese]

I'll be doing the next one I think.

[Danger]

Heck Cheese if you travel several 1000kms and complete all the races and win your class you could win a cap!:woohoo:

[Ktmboy]

Heck Cheese if you travel several 1000kms and complete all the races and win your class you could win a cap!:woohoo:

Entry Fees - $225
Vehicle Petrol - $600 min
Food/Accomodation/Supplies - $400 min
Bike Gas - $100.

Winners Cap - Priceless

[chop]

so you wont be doing this ktmboy and danger??

[Danger]

Only if I felt I had to prove to you that I could still kick your a$$ Chop, but we both know I can so I don't need to. :wari:
And I have plenty of caps anyway.

[Ktmboy]

so you wont be doing this ktmboy and danger??

Woodhill. As if I had a choice. The others are 50/50 at this stage.

I have a couple of spare caps and you can borrow one if you like chop?:laugh:

[cheese]

pfftttt as long as I bet Aaron or Rupert I'd be happy. Caps schmaps.

[Danger]

I got just the cap for you Chop! Fits all Husqvarna weedeaters, line trimers, motorcycles and gas blowers so I'm sure you will find a place for it!

[Ktmboy]

pfftttt as long as I bet Aaron or Rupert I'd be happy. Caps schmaps.

Ahh.. I feel a side bet or two being put on this.

[billaroo]

Woodhill. As if I had a choice. The others are 50/50 at this stage.

I have a couple of spare caps and you can borrow one if you like chop?:laugh:

have you no pride?
may I suggest a full face helmet with visor to keep the spit out of your eyes?

[Ktmboy]

I got just the cap for you Chop! Fits all Husqvarna weedeaters, line trimers, motorcycles and gas blowers so I'm sure it will fit you!

Intelligent minds think alike. You beat me to it.

[chop]

Thanks for the kind words guys its good to have friends.... Sounds like fighting talk to me! we both know your dreaming now danger but it must be nice for you to have little thoughts like that.. Im thinking maybe a tent or tarpualin to keep the spit off you as when excitment kicks in its like a storm!

[chop]

Woodhill. As if I had a choice. The others are 50/50 at this stage.

I have a couple of spare caps and you can borrow one if you like chop?:laugh:

Burglar maybe??????

[Reckless]

I see a green flag then a chequered flag brings the best out in you boys!!!

I might give this a go? look forward to seeing you guys as you flash past!

Are we all meeting somewhere so I can listen to the excuses after????

[chop]

Were not really that competitive!! haha i dont know about flashing past though! haha

[barty5]

Entry Fees - $225
Vehicle Petrol - $600 min Shit what are you drivin more like $800MIN
Food/Accomodation/Supplies - $400 min
Bike Gas - $100.

Winners Cap - Priceless


Although at the moment i dont have a car some asshole truck driver didnt see it this morning and drove over the front of it (family is ok though and kids thought it was funny ) me im not laughing yet

[Reckless]

Although at the moment i dont have a car some asshole truck driver didnt see it this morning and drove over the front of it (family is ok though and kids thought it was funny ) me im not laughing yet

Faaark Mate! glad to hear the families OK!! Might be Rupes turn to pick you up!!

[cheese]

Gosh is that up north that happened?

[Rupe]

pfftttt as long as I bet Aaron or Rupert I'd be happy. Caps schmaps.

Can't see you being very happy then! Mind you aaron will be in a different class to us...old bugger.

[Reckless]

two bloody hours I'll be happy to make it!!
None of you can bet me cause I'm in the 45+ class and you guys aren't elligble.
Now there's a point do I enter rookie class???

[Danger]

Hey Reckless there are a few of us that could be in the same class as you old fella! However I don't even bother getting out of bed for a race thats only 2 hours long.

[barty5]

Can't see you being very happy then! Mind you aaron will be in a different class to us...old bugger.

thats enough of that old shit i only have 6 years on cheese and just for that im going to make sure i bet you by a real goos margin

[barty5]

Gosh is that up north that happened?

Yeh sux now i have to flog the old mans x5 and drive up there tommorrow and pick them up stuffs my plan for the morning a bit was thinking could have gone for a ride for the day unlees i go real late in the day to pick them up. Then i need to get the car back down here to get it repaired just more shit i dont need.

[Danger]

thats enough of that old shit i only have 6 years on cheese and im a real goos

Sorry, couldn't resist ha ha!:laugh:

[Rupe]

two bloody hours I'll be happy to make it!!
None of you can bet me cause I'm in the 45+ class and you guys aren't elligble.
Now there's a point do I enter rookie class???

If barty is with 20yrs riding, I don't see why you wouldn't. Shit I'm going in the lowest class I can as not enough experience to try any other. You going to do the woodhill round then??? Noticed you don't make a lot of mistakes when you ride, you loose a lot of time picking your bike up and starting it all the time. Be interesting to see eveyones lap times at the end, we should all post them up.

Can't believe cheese and 4stroke are letting the side down and not comming!

[clmintie]

Hey Reckless there are a few of us that could be in the same class as you old fella! However I don't even bother getting out of bed for a race thats only 2 hours long.



Couldn't find the works KTM "dream team", but.........

[Rupe]

thats enough of that old shit i only have 6 years on cheese and just for that im going to make sure i bet you by a real goos margin


I was going to say something smart, but the reality is you probably will beat me by a good margin, unless your googles steam up, cramp etc, etc, like tarawera.

Didn't realise cheese was in his fortys, looks younger than that:shit:

[Danger]

Ha ha nice one Clmintie! I'm just a big cock!

And I don't reckon Cheese looks a day over 40!

[Rupe]

Couldn't find the works KTM "dream team", but.........

more like this, only older!

[Danger]

Ha ha kinda looks like the whole Kiwi Biker Dirt Division eh?

[clmintie]

Ha ha kinda looks like the whole Kiwi Biker Dirt Division eh?


Hey!... I resemble that remark...........:laugh:

[Danger]

Actually anyone called Rupert should be very careful where things might lead.:Oops:

[Rupe]

Actually anyone called Rupert should be very careful where things might lead.:Oops:

Very good, think I asked for that, like the butterflies (bastard). And no I don't have any pants like that before anyone asks.

[barty5]

Actually anyone called Rupert should be very careful where things might lead.:Oops:

didnt it come out that he was gay bit like that other caractor noody and the teli tubbies

[barty5]

I was going to say something smart, but the reality is you probably will beat me by a good margin, unless your googles steam up, cramp etc, etc, like tarawera.

Didn't realise cheese was in his fortys, looks younger than that:shit:

hell i might i older but im sure as hell not in the fortys yet still got 3-4 years left till then yet.

[telliman]

didnt it come out that he was gay bit like that other caractor noody and the teli tubbies

and wat are you implying there?haha

[cheese]

Na, your thinking or noddy and big ears as the gay combo. you could make Rupert into a gay name if say it "Wupert".

My god I don;t post for half a day and all of a sudden - ALLEGEDLY

I'm 40
Rupert is a gay beer from the 60's
Greg is a giant penis....
Rick is Animal
Clminte is Kermit?

If I were one of the muppets I'd say I'd be Fozzie

[A&R]

Na, your thinking or noddy and big ears as the gay combo. you could make Rupert into a gay name if say it "Wupert".

My god I don;t post for half a day and all of a sudden - ALLEGEDLY

I'm 40
Rupert is a gay beer from the 60's
Greg is a giant penis....
Rick is Animal
Clminte is Kermit?

If I were one of the muppets I'd say I'd be Fozzie

I didn't think this thread was going to throw up so much agro. :shit: I just wanted know if any was going :eek:

But now guess everyone is in for the :chase:

I'm with Reckless if i get round in one piece i'm happy!!! I'm still in the novices!!!

quote "Shit I'm going in the lowest class I can as not enough experience to try any other. You going to do the woodhill round then??? Noticed you don't make a lot of mistakes when you ride, you loose a lot of time picking your bike up and starting it all the time. Be interesting to see eveyones lap times at the end, we should all post them up"

I guess Rupecopp is in the ladies or kids then ha....ha..... ( sorry couldn't resist that)

[A&R]

probably gonna do this one
first cross country:2thumbsup
should be interesting
how many people usually turn up per class??

You can see last years results just look it all up on the GNCC website.

[Rupe]

I guess Rupecopp is in the ladies or kids then ha....ha..... ( sorry couldn't resist that)

If I could, I would. might get one of those expensive caps then.

Looks like a few are going then, be good to see how everyone gets on, and hopefully injury free.


Anyone know about the fire extingusher thing, looks to me as if it's not required for woodhill, although it's not clear???

[telliman]

Na, your thinking or noddy and big ears as the gay combo. you could make Rupert into a gay name if say it "Wupert".

My god I don;t post for half a day and all of a sudden - ALLEGEDLY

I'm 40
Rupert is a gay beer from the 60's
Greg is a giant penis....
Rick is Animal
Clminte is Kermit?

If I were one of the muppets I'd say I'd be Fozzie

nah, you'd be BEAKER.

[Danger]

Anyone know about the fire extingusher thing, looks to me as if it's not required for woodhill, although it's not clear???

Gregs email says that fire extinguishers are compulsory.

[telliman]

Na, your thinking or noddy and big ears as the gay combo. you could make Rupert into a gay name if say it "Wupert".

My god I don;t post for half a day and all of a sudden - ALLEGEDLY

I'm 40
Rupert is a gay beer from the 60's
Greg is a giant penis....
Rick is Animal
Clminte is Kermit?

If I were one of the muppets I'd say I'd be Fozzie

GTAe would be fozzie, have you seen that dude with no shirt on, he could start his own hair farm!!

[barty5]

Right then had a look around found this test Which Muppet are you heres the link come on dont be shy.
http://wiebevill.blogspot.com/2007/11/wild-side-in-me.html

me im Gonzo

Now to make it easy for those that ride a KTM i have save you the hassle Re: second picture take your choice:lol::lol:

[cheese]

Well Apparently on that test I'm Kermit.

[Danger]

Now to make it easy for those that ride a KTM i have save you the hassle Re: second picture take your choice:lol::lol:

Well the one on the left does look like the Silver Fox!

[Reckless]

Now to make it easy for those that ride a KTM i have save you the hassle Re: second picture take your choice:lol::lol:

Careful Barty doesn't pay not to respect your elders!!! So am I the one on the left or right??

I'm just glad I'm not the gay one LOL!!!!

[Rupe]

Gregs email says that fire extinguishers are compulsory.

yeah thats what I spotted, although I was surprised to need one at woodhill so I looked on the gncc website and if you look at venues it only states you need a extinguisher at two of the venues??? This is where I became confused as to if I need one and emailed greg, but got no reply.

Apparently I came out as Animal from the muppets, this is an improvement to a "gay bear" I guess.

[clmintie]

Apparently I'm Gonzo and Grace is Miss Piggy............................

[Ktmboy]

FARK !! I'm Miss Piggy:shit: LOL

I'm going to have a winkle check??

Novice is fine for Rupert and Reckless etc. You will often find the fastest novice would be in the first couple of clubman anyway. At the end of the day its all a bit of fun for bragging rights.

You can find the burglers by checking the times.
As far as fire extinguishers go, strangely this is not a requirement for Woodhill forestry. But for other forests the likes of Maramarua/Waimihi etc this could be correct.

It would still pay to get an extingiusher though as alot of rides insist on them.

Miss Piggy indeed.:eek5:

[cheese]

FARK !! I'm Miss Piggy:shit: LOL

I'm going to have a winkle check??


Miss Piggy indeed.:eek5:

Whos my bitch...... LOL

[Reckless]

ok all you flipping MUPPETS back to the point!!!!

I've just cleaned all the last ride mud off my my bike but stopped short of the usual sqiurt of CRC over it just in case I need to go get some numbers for the GNCC.

So do I need to get some and will any number do??

[dammad1]

ok all you flipping MUPPETS back to the point!!!!

I've just cleaned all the last ride mud off my my bike but stopped short of the usual sqiurt of CRC over it just in case I need to go get some numbers for the GNCC.

So do I need to get some and will any number do??

Nah you dont need numbers, you get a barcode on your helmet and you get scanned at the end of each lap.

[Rupe]

I've just cleaned all the last ride mud off my my bike

Good on you mate!!

At least this rain should help the track, although I hope it doesn't put them off putting out plenty of arrows/markers.

Also last time they started with a long run down a gravel road, so would be a good idea for the 2smokers to be nice and warm before hand.

[A&R]

Nah you dont need numbers, you get a barcode on your helmet and you get scanned at the end of each lap.

Dammad1 is right. When you go and sign up they will give you a sticker with a barcode on that you stick on the right hand side of your helmet. You keep it ( provided it is readable) for all the GNCC races. You don't need numbers have alook on greg powers site or the GNCC website tells you all about it.
You get sent off in lines of about 5-6, get given a number to stick on your bike after the briefing and that is the line number you line up in. Its pretty random I think but novices and rookies etc tend to be in the back end.

When you come round from finishing a lap you turn your head towards a computer screen which says stop or go and at the same time they read you barcode. Depending how fast your going :scooter:determines weather you do another lap or not. :chase:generally for me its 3 or 4 laps but up to 5 or 6 for the likes of KTMBOY and the fast guys. takes about 3 hours usually and pretty knackering!:laugh:

[Reckless]

So there's a fuel stop in there as well. I've been looking at my fuel consumption on my rides and I reckon it would do 3 hours easily. The only doubt I have is our trail rides aren't 3 hours full on??? So not entirely convinced it would make it if the whole 3 hours where in anger? I had 2 1/2 to 3 hours on the clock last ride and put 5 3/4 litres of gas in a 7 liter + 2 reserve= 9 litre tank when I got home. I'd like to think the lighter 200 and good fuel mileage might make me up some time at the business end of the race?
Wadya reckon take the risk? Wheres Danger when you need him?? LOL!:scooter:

[barty5]

So there's a fuel stop in there as well. I've been looking at my fuel consumption on my rides and I reckon it would do 3 hours easily. The only doubt I have is our trail rides aren't 3 hours full on??? So not entirely convinced it would make it if the whole 3 hours where in anger? I had 2 1/2 to 3 hours on the clock last ride and put 5 3/4 litres of gas in a 7 liter + 2 reserve= 9 litre tank when I got home. I'd like to think the lighter 200 and good fuel mileage might make me up some time at the business end of the race?
Wadya reckon take the risk? Wheres Danger when you need him?? LOL!:scooter:

dont see why you wouldnt make it round on one tank i dont really plan on a fuel stop either but may just for a peice of mind do a quick splash and go wont need to completly refill after 2-3 laps better safe than pushing through sand. At least you have a reserve give you warning you need a top up i have none and rupe only has 1/2 litre once he hits it and that dont go far.

[Ktmboy]

So there's a fuel stop in there as well. I've been looking at my fuel consumption on my rides and I reckon it would do 3 hours easily. The only doubt I have is our trail rides aren't 3 hours full on??? So not entirely convinced it would make it if the whole 3 hours where in anger? I had 2 1/2 to 3 hours on the clock last ride and put 5 3/4 litres of gas in a 7 liter + 2 reserve= 9 litre tank when I got home. I'd like to think the lighter 200 and good fuel mileage might make me up some time at the business end of the race?
Wadya reckon take the risk? Wheres Danger when you need him?? LOL!:scooter:

Na. I always thought I could do the same on my 200 as it was very economical but the trouble is that the races sometimes ended being 3.5 hours long.

It takes 20 seconds with a good crew to stop for fuel. It takes a lot longer to push your bike back the last couple of K.

[chop]

get a quickfil takes alot less time!

[Danger]

Plan on one fuel stop Reckless probably around the hour and a half mark for you.

[Reckless]

Good feedback thanks guys. From what I can guess I'd probably do a round on reserve anyway by the sound of it. and its highly unlikely I'd go on reserve right at the start of a lap. I know what my tank and reserve is for sure, as I filled it then drained it into a measring container. I mainly wanted to know if I needed to set up a 5 litre can for a fuel stop. I might not even make 3 hours anyway!! But I'll probably do what Danger says for piece of mind then measure what I've used so I know for next time. Crew?? What Crew??

[cheese]

I was going to come pit crew for you guys but I don't think I have time.

[chop]

As a rule i refuel at the end of every 2nd lap for two reasons one is that i make sure i wont run out. two is that it cuts time down refeuling on the third as it will require more fuel to be dumped in.

[Ktmboy]

Good feedback thanks guys. From what I can guess I'd probably do a round on reserve anyway by the sound of it. and its highly unlikely I'd go on reserve right at the start of a lap. I know what my tank and reserve is for sure, as I filled it then drained it into a measring container. I mainly wanted to know if I needed to set up a 5 litre can for a fuel stop. I might not even make 3 hours anyway!! But I'll probably do what Danger says for piece of mind then measure what I've used so I know for next time. Crew?? What Crew??

Just poach into one of our tents and when you come in to pit just point in the general direction of your fuel container and grunt loudly like you're in pain. There's always somebody who will take pity on you and will refuel for you. Chop grunts all the time and people help him:laugh:

[dammad1]

Yeah I usually stop for gas after two laps or around the 1 hour mark, its also a good time to eat something and drink a sugary drink.

Also the race length is only 2 hours but if you manage to get through the checkpoint just before the 2 hour point then it may be approx 2.5 hours before you finish.

[Reckless]

I'm bloody sure it'll do 2 hours but I might need the break anyway. Sugary drink? On the trailblazer I saw a guy stuffing Jelly beans in his gob for a sugar fix. I might get some, sounds like a good plan to me and then I won't need to stop for a pee so often! That happens more at my age! LOL!!
It'll be OK on the day as long as I let the faster guys past and finish I'll be happy to rest my bones in the Howick club Sunday, watch Bathurst and have a few beverages! What a beaut weekend!!

So Hydration pack, Jelly beans, 5 litre fuel, plenty of tear offs, spare googles??

[cheese]

get some carbo shots. they do help.

[Rupe]

get some carbo shots. they do help.

where from?

[barty5]

where from?

cycle shops have them and some foodtowns i think
Ps i still hate subaru still at work doin cambelt need sleep

[Danger]

I'm bloody sure it'll do 2 hours but I might need the break anyway. Sugary drink? On the trailblazer I saw a guy stuffing Jelly beans in his gob for a sugar fix. I might get some, sounds like a good plan to me and then I won't need to stop for a pee so often! That happens more at my age! LOL!!
It'll be OK on the day as long as I let the faster guys past and finish I'll be happy to rest my bones in the Howick club Sunday, watch Bathurst and have a few beverages! What a beaut weekend!!

So Hydration pack, Jelly beans, 5 litre fuel, plenty of tear offs, spare googles??

Don't use tear offs, just duck your head if needed. We don't need those blowing around the forest and I've never needed them in Woodhill. You can anticipate having to duck your head if following someone through a big puddle but the sand by itself is generally not that much of a problem. You might want a clean pair of goggles with your fuel just in case but I find I usually don't need them in Woodhill. Just carry a small piece of damp chamois under a rubber band wrapped around the front of your seat to give your goggles a quick wipe if needed. And I doubt your going to need any extra sugar for a two hour race if you have a weak solution sport drink. You look like your carrying enough sugar anyway Rick.

[Rupe]

who went then, how'd you find it? Lost count of how many times I crashed trying to get round people including a nice cuddle with a tree. Them roots, and stumps catch you out when your behind someone waiting for a chance to pass. Nice loop though.

[cheese]

I hear that ricks bike had a bit of a mishap with a tree that caused some pretty bad damage. Rick - I got my radiator fixed in newmarket, but it cost about $100 to fix. might be able to get one off eBay.

[Danger]

I hear that ricks bike had a bit of a mishap with a tree that caused some pretty bad damage. Rick - I got my radiator fixed in newmarket, but it cost about $100 to fix. might be able to get one off eBay.

:doh: Should have had some more sugar!:dodge:

Was hoping to get out there perhaps for a ride or at least to support but been feeling like I've been fighting a cold off the last few days and feeling a bit unenergetic.
I heard Jake Wightman came in first in class and first 65 home and had no crashes. His Dad told me that he told Jake that if he won he would take him to the rest of the rounds. :doh: Dads wrapped on both counts and is looking forward to Jake hopefully winning a cap!
Haven't heard from Karl Power after his first race on the 450 but that might be because he had to get ready after for the Rut 100 today. Anyone know how he did?

[Rupe]

I hear that ricks bike had a bit of a mishap with a tree that caused some pretty bad damage. Rick - I got my radiator fixed in newmarket, but it cost about $100 to fix. might be able to get one off eBay.

I'm pretty sure his rad is fine. he bent his pipe so it was touching the rad pipe and burnt a hole in it. But only noticed when it started to make a funny sound. I'm sure he'll fill us in at some point.

Anyone know who was riding the white yzf450 that tried to kill me off the start line????

[Reckless]

Here's an edited copy of a PM I just sent to Rupe on my first ever enduro race experiance. Pretty much sums it up!!

To be honest mate I'm still fucking gutted at my lack of skill and ability. Anything wrong with the bike was induced by my pathetic riding. I'm not sure I'll do anymore rounds until I have practiced heaps more. I think I'll have to stop riding within my ability (like the day when I was at the Sandpit with you and 4stroke) and start pushing it harder. I just have to learn to ride better I fought the bike so much and fell off so much I didn't even think I could finish a lap about 25 mins in. 5 mins later I discovered the water problem after I'd hit a tree earlier. I'd pushed the pipe into the radiator hose and cracked the hose. There's not a lot of clearance there anyway but the tree didn't help??

I cleaned the bike but haven't stripped it yet, it got a bit of a rattle on but never nipped up or seized so it should be OK. Maybe a new piston and ring needed just to be safe. I rode it back to the pits via the road after I put a litre or so from my my Camel pack in it, so it wasn't completly dry either. Lucky I heard it and know what a 2 stroke death rattle sounds like from my Karting days. I stopped to look after only the second time it did it. I 'll take it to bits this week but I'm not expecting to much to do!

Still fucking gutted with myself though!!

[barty5]

I'm pretty sure his rad is fine. he bent his pipe so it was touching the rad pipe and burnt a hole in it. But only noticed when it started to make a funny sound. I'm sure he'll fill us in at some point.

Anyone know who was riding the white yzf450 that tried to kill me off the start line????

Yeh it was that old fucker that was running in 22nd place on the 3rd lap at least i didnt cause you to drop it that would have been one of those visa priceless moments. You should try getting of the start line full tit in second on a track full of ruts one handed not that easy but beat smashing hand on your bars.

[Rupe]

Yeh it was that old fucker that was running in 22nd place on the 3rd lap at least i didnt cause you to drop it that would have been one of those visa priceless moments. You should try getting of the start line full tit in second on a track full of ruts one handed not that easy but beat smashing hand on your bars.

All good, next time I'll give you a good kick, or push your kill switch on the line!!!

Mind you you'll be a bit further up the line next time, bastard.

[barty5]

All good, next time I'll give you a good kick, or push your kill switch on the line!!!

Mind you you'll be a bit further up the line next time, bastard.

well as long as i stay round the 22 mark with th 4th lap add in the other classes then that should mean 1st ten rows and you should be 3 or 4 back not that far

[dammad1]

well as long as i stay round the 22 mark with th 4th lap add in the other classes then that should mean 1st ten rows and you should be 3 or 4 back not that far

I saw the final results, I think you ended up 18th, and Rupert I think you were 44th.

What grid slot did you guys start on?

[Rupe]

I saw the final results, I think you ended up 18th, and Rupert I think you were 44th.

What grid slot did you guys start on?

was that after 3laps, or the finish? bah, I was hoping for better than that, no points:rolleyes:

How many was that out of, and where did you come?


We started on grid 23.

[dammad1]

bah, I was hoping for better than that, no points:rolleyes:

How many was that out of, and where did you come?


We started on grid 23.

There was 80 odd entries with 70 odd finishing at least one lap, me and my mate started on grid 21 and it was a complete mission getting through the traffic, got the holeshot and steadily worked my way through, got 15th overall, 1st in age group and 5th in bike class, not to bad but a couple of small mistakes cost me a couple of spots. I'm looking forward to the more open and flowing tracks where I can actually use some of the power, it would have been nice to be on a 200 in all that tight stuff.

[barty5]

I saw the final results, I think you ended up 18th, and Rupert I think you were 44th.

What grid slot did you guys start on?

sweeeeeeeeet beter than the 22 i thought i had not bad for an old bastard a rupe

[dammad1]

sweeeeeeeeet beter than the 22 i thought i had not bad for an old bastard a rupe

Yeah will mean a much better grid slot for the next one and you wont end up in huge ques trying to get past people.

[Ktmboy]

Good work guys, sounds like ya all had a good days racing - except for Reckless that is:eek5:. Me be thinking that maybe you should come out with us to do some tight twisty riding.
Not that you will need it for the next round at Matata though as this course suit the MX style more. It even has jumps?:crazy:

It doesn't suit the old farts so much as it fair beats the ole body up.

[Reckless]

Good work guys, sounds like ya all had a good days racing - except for Reckless that is:eek5:. Me be thinking that maybe you should come out with us to do some tight twisty riding.
Not that you will need it for the next round at Matata though as this course suit the MX style more. It even has jumps?:crazy:

It doesn't suit the old farts so much as it fair beats the ole body up.

Thanks for the offer mate I might take you up on a few lessons out the sandpit!!
I'm hoping, upon hoping that I might be a bit better on the open stuff. I did way better on the Rodney ride weekend B4 last than I did in the forest last Saturday. Maybe my High speed road riding might count for a little more in the fast MX stuff. I dunno?? Only time will tell?? If its going to be wet next round I'm staying home.

[Rupe]

sweeeeeeeeet beter than the 22 i thought i had not bad for an old bastard a rupe

Yeah good effort, wasn't easy to move up the feild so you did a good job, unlike me who kept crashing. If the next one is fast with jumps that doesn't really sound to good for me, but will have a go anyway.

[dammad1]

Yeah good effort, wasn't easy to move up the feild so you did a good job, unlike me who kept crashing. If the next one is fast with jumps that doesn't really sound to good for me, but will have a go anyway.

They are not big jumps though, alot of ski jumps going up some fast open uphills, they are totally awesome and you can hit them tapped without any real worries, really good place to pass people as some are a bit tentative over them and I am certainly no expert on jumping.

I wondered what happend to you Reckless, I didn't see your name on the results and thought you mustn't of turned up.

[barty5]

They are not big jumps though, alot of ski jumps going up some fast open uphills, they are totally awesome and you can hit them tapped without any real worries, really good place to pass people as some are a bit tentative over them and I am certainly no expert on jumping.

I wondered what happend to you Reckless, I didn't see your name on the results and thought you mustn't of turned up.


im likin the sound of this round more and more roll on the 8th

[Reckless]

I wondered what happend to you Reckless, I didn't see your name on the results and thought you mustn't of turned up.

Turned up, stuffed up, then spent the rest of the day giving the others jelly beans in the pits. It was a good learning experience for my first time out. I learnt, you gotta stay on the bike for the first lap to even score. One guy next to me in pit lane did the first lap, rested for an hour then took of for his second lap?? So it was good to go to my first enduro and learn the ropes. What I should have done was go along and watch one or two races last year so I knew what to expect.
No probs though, gonna practice racing:chase: in the future not just riding. LOL!! Hopefully pain doesn't come with it!!:no:

One of my problems is the bike usually feels good under me but on most rides (even casual days) the first 40mins (or lap) everything feels strange, track wise, nothing seems 2 be quite clicking, I'm just not seeing things right. Then I get into the groove and everything flows, see the corners better, anticipate better etc etc. Then i get tired and I make a few mistakes but it still feels good. Its the first bit I didn't get through at the GNCC when I hit the tree and burst the water hose?

My question for you experienced guys is: Does this first odd feeling bit go away with heaps practice/experiance or will I always have to manage that as part of my race plan??

[Ktmboy]

Ah, this is commonly refered to as the "Red Mist":crazy:. Everyone going hell for leather in the first 15 minutes. But you're not going to do good when you fall off 6 times in the first lap.
I started from grid 6 which is not ideal and by half way through I reckon that I'd passed at least 20 riders. Passed being not quite the right word. More like they had the red mist real bad and 60% off them fell off literally in front of me.

Stay calm and remember that its at least 2 hours long.

[chop]

Ktmboy sumed it up well i think... I am still one to push and shove in the first lap.. Some days everything feels strange and sat was one of those days for me.. The best advice i can think of is to stay claim and remember you have 2 hours (or more) try and keep to a steady comfortable pace and try and set consistant lap times and the rest will come with time if you hear a faster guy come up behind you move over if its safe but dont stop then try and follow some lines and see how you go if they dont work for you back off and trust your judgement of your ability.. One thing myself, ktmboy and the lads have always and will always have in the back of our minds is to finish first first you have to finish!! be a survivour not a train wreck theres more glory in finishing a hard event than watching everyone else come while you nurse a sore body or ego..

[Reckless]

I accept what you guys are saying and agree! The years karting have probably ingrained in me that once the guy in front gets away you never generally catch him up. Which probably isn't so much the case in this sport. Hehe! problem is even the bloody girls got passed me?? Although I generally I took the long way round when I heard a bike behind me to let the fast people past as the grids where not in speed order as they will be next time. I can get along OK on the bike can keep a few of the guys on here in sight even on a fast loop. Probably the sand and forest is where I'm at my worst though!
BUT Back to the point even on a family trail ride with no one to race I generally fell awkward for the first wee while. This simply never happened in my kart and not on the road bike either? So If I go out the sandpit every Sunday, Ardmore Wednesday and Harrisville Saturday till I die. Will it go away? Did you guys have this when you started and its gone, is it still there or was never there??

[barty5]

I accept what you guys are saying and agree! The years karting have probably engrained in me that once the guy in front gets away you never geneally catch him up. Which probaly isn't so much the case in this sport. Hehe! problem is even the bloody girls got passed me?? Although I generally I took the long way round when I heard a bike behind me to let the fast people past as the grids where not in speed order as they will be next time. I can get along OK on the bike can keep a few of the guys on here in sight even on a fast loop. Probably the sand and forest is where I'm at my worst though!
BUT Back to the point even on a family trail ride with no one to race I generally fell awkward for the first wee while. This simply never happened in my kart and not on the road bike either? So If I go out the sandpit every Sunday, Ardmore Wednesday and Harrisville Saturday till I die. Will it go away? Did you guys have this when you started and its gone, is it still there or was never there??

I think you allways get that feeling to a certain point everyone is different i get it for the 1st 5-10 min till youu get the feel for the ground your riding on and as with forest sections this depends on how tight it is. Once i get past that you then kinda know what to be expecting and can ride a lot quicker and second lap you start to remember where different things are etc etc

[telliman]

and the main thing is enjoy it like its not a race,race yourself if need be but dont try and race at someone eleses pace.its still just a day on the bike!(or in your case 20mins,)haha.
but riding ardmore and harrisville aint gona do much good in terms of practice for a gncc event in tight twisty forest(sand) races.

[chop]

I still feel like that most of the time... Try to look ahaed and enjoy your time on the bike have a play around before you go out to get the feel for it. I used to vomit before races and then flounder around for the first lap until i settled.. Its nerves and not knowing whats around the corner that does it to you just try and remember as long as you ride within your ability nothing is going to jump out and hurt you also try and remember first and foremost your there to have FUN!!! If you see us out and about feel free to come for a ride and or have a chat im sure one of us may have an isight for you. The feeling does go away to some extent after time

[cheese]

Its probably to do with some of the adrenalin rush you get before a race too. I get a bit nervous and take a while to settle in. I think that you just have to ride at your own pace and remember that you will pick up half of those guys that race off ahead on your second lap.

[dammad1]

I always find it takes a little bit to settle in, but the biggest thing about the GNCC's is to get through the first lap safely at a comfortable speed, you see it all the time, guys charging hard on the first lap only to break themselves or thier bike or they just tire themselves out and their lap times in the latter part of the race really suffer. Smooth and consistent is the key.

Can't wait for the next round!

[Reckless]

Interesting replies! I wasn't actually that nervous not like starting the final round of a national karting event. I did have the intention of riding my own pace as well but maybe I pushed harder than I thought I was. Well I must have unless that tree has movable roots :laugh:. Big difference I suppose compared to a trail ride where you can always stop to wait for someone or have some road sections to rest, it was just full on. LOL!!.
That answers my question though. Good to know from Dammad, Barty and chop the awkward feeling disappears with experience to a certain degree . So now I have to ride and ride get as good as Barty to cut my awkward 30mins down to 5-10mins. Now where's that bloody bike the days awaisting, more practice needed. Oh shit I forgot I broke it.:laugh: That's what you get for playing with guys 20 years younger or 20 years more experienced. To late now though, I don't wanna rest till I've got this MX thing sorted!! I reckon I'm a bit better than that showing! Next time I'll sort it!
CYA out there!!

[telliman]

thats the way mate, you sounded a bit disheartend in your earlier post which racing can do to ya but you;ve got that spring back in ya step again,go for a run mate,nothing wrong with a bit of fitness away from the bike!

[clmintie]

So If I go out the sandpit every Sunday, Ardmore Wednesday and Harrisville Saturday till I die.


I'm liking the sound of this........................:Punk:

[Reckless]

thats the way mate, you sounded a bit disheartend in your earlier post which racing can do to ya but you;ve got that spring back in ya step again,go for a run mate,nothing wrong with a bit of fitness away from the bike!

Yeah I was totally pissed off with my effort actually! Go for a run? you say? I've been running (well its a fast shuffle)5 days a week for 3 months, that's one of the reasons I was so pissed at the way I executed the day.
Anyway that's enough public bitching, you guys will think I'm a right poof! I mainly wanted to get some input from the more experienced on here and they where kind enough to give their advice. Your never to old to learn a new strategy!:done:

[Rupe]

Ah, this is commonly refered to as the "Red Mist":crazy:. Everyone going hell for leather in the first 15 minutes. But you're not going to do good when you fall off 6 times in the first lap.

Stay calm and remember that its at least 2 hours long.

That pretty much describes me, tried to go like fuck on the 2nd lap and crashed prob 6 times, wasted all my energy and ruined my race. Couldn't stand on the pegs for the 4th and hit a tree cause I wasn't concentrating.

Oh well guess you have to do that to learn, I'll be there next round with a different attitude.

Good to see a few off here do well though.

[dammad1]

Full results are now up on their site.

[4stroke]

i think you guys need to ride more with chop ktmboy and i, i not as quick as chop but i can i like to push hard, and im looking foward to getting the husky in the sandpit and see how it goes in the snoty stuff.

[Rupe]

i think you guys need to ride more with chop ktmboy and i, i not as quick as chop but i can i like to push hard, and im looking foward to getting the husky in the sandpit and see how it goes in the snoty stuff.


Put your money where your mouth is and do the next round then.

What class do you see yourself in???

[A&R]

Ah well 50th!!! a bit dissapointing everyone on here except rick ( and thats excusable with a broken bike) beat me and i'm s'posed to be an experienced GNCCer! and I only fell off once too. I can't understand how my fastest lap was the third by over two minutes, must have a second breath of wind.

I though i'd done 5 rounds too! i think i must have been pissed ha...ha...
Any way will have to try better at Matata.

Rick your mate did well 26th was it ?

[Reckless]

i think you guys need to ride more with chop ktmboy and i.

Look forward to it anytime I'm up for a lesson.


Ah well 50th!!! a bit dissapointing everyone on here except rick ( and thats excusable with a broken bike) beat me and i'm s'posed to be an experienced GNCCer! and I only fell off once too. I can't understand how my fastest lap was the third by over two minutes, must have a second breath of wind.

I though i'd done 5 rounds too! i think i must have been pissed ha...ha...
Any way will have to try better at Matata.

Rick your mate did well 26th was it ?

A&R you finished and did the 4 laps like the others mate not to bad.
Yep 26th my mate is sooooo competitive though he'll ride till his arms and legs don't work anymore!

LOL I think we are all gonna try better at Matata!

[A&R]

To top it all I note Peter got us on the kids web page on the power adventures website!

Hey Ktmboy I see you and the price family are having battle!!!
We sat with them and seen Steve just beat ya and daniel just beat Logan. Lets hope you reverse it at Matata. I watch with interest

[Reckless]

OK engine report after loosing the water. The bloody thing is immaculate! Its not often you take an 03 bike apart and there is absolutely no evidence of any mishaps anywhere in its long past on the bore. Plenty of 2 stroke oil around and the piston hasn't even got the normal shiny spots on the skirt. Bloody great! I wish I hadn't touched it. But I won't be able to resist new rings, top bearing, pin and c clips while I've got it apart, for piece of mind and just because I don't know how long they have been in there.

I must say I was a bit suspect about what I would find after working on the Honda as where there is 12mm bolts on that, the the Ktm has 10mm and 10mm on the Honda where the Ktm has 8mm etc. So the impression I had was, it was built lighter. But there's a damn solidly built, quite heavy, 2 ring piston in the 200 (makes those little 4 stroke ones look very flimsy). The power valve set up goes down onto the actuator lever via a fork arrangement, Nice and simple! No wonder Danger got 400 hours outa his. There built like a brick shit house. The bottom end feels nice and tight. The thing could run quite a bit leaner as well but its got way enough power for me so I'll leave that for greater longevity. Overall I'm quite impressed!

Oh by the way where's the best place to get Cheap Ktm parts!!
Ignore that! local shop for 2xrings,pin,bearing,cclips,Rad hose $120 incl. So Parts quite good value as well. Not worth my time shopping around to save another $20 bucks

[4stroke]

Put your money where your mouth is and do the next round then.

What class do you see yourself in???

pro......... lol na i duno what class did you guys run in?

[Reckless]

pro......... lol na i duno what class did you guys run in?

We are in Rookies but we don't want you trophy hunting in our class! You'd be Clubman I would imagine. Mind you it would mean we have to wait another 2 hours for you to finish your race.:shit:

[Rupe]

pro......... lol na i duno what class did you guys run in?

Rookies, but you could go in clubman as you've been riding a while. Rookies, and clubman race together so we all be racing together.

Does that mean your comming, or you still up bumblefuckvile fiddling with animals?

[Rupe]

OK engine report after loosing the water. The bloody thing is immaculate!

Does this mean your going to do the 2nd round?

how are you going to bend your pipe back, noticed mine is touching the pipe too, bloody trees!

[4stroke]

yeah id like to come down to the next one, duno bout clubmen tho im too slow id have to go rookie i think .......

[telliman]

yeah id like to come down to the next one, duno bout clubmen tho im too slow id have to go rookie i think .......

haha, i smell fear!!!

[A&R]

yeah id like to come down to the next one, duno bout clubmen tho im too slow id have to go rookie i think .......

Yeah go in rookies we can see where you came easier then.

How is everyone getting to Matata. It's about a 4hr journey. I remember setting off 0430 from AK to get there for 0830 for the kids sign in I was knackered before I started so I intend staying down there the friday night this time. Anyone else?

[Ktmboy]

Yep, we'll be camping over the night before in the paddock with the freakin rooster that does't have any idea what the crack of dawn is. Gonna kill him this time I swear!!

[A&R]

Yep, we'll be camping over the night before in the paddock with the freakin rooster that does't have any idea what the crack of dawn is. Gonna kill him this time I swear!!

Thanks for the info. :niceone: perhaps we will stay somewhere else then! :2guns: :yawn: :zzzz: :yes: :rolleyes:
out of the range of the rooster :laugh:
or take some earplugs :laugh:

KTMBOY You still got that night ride on this weekend at the sandpit?

[Ktmboy]

4 Stroke...Rookies I think not. You go good and Matata would suit you down to the ground. You'd be in the top 25% of clubbies.

Yes, Andy the Price family are going good . Steve has a new KTM 250 six days that he loves. He's also been riding plenty (Napier 6 hours, nat enduro series etc etc) I beat him last year in the GNCC but he's charging this year thats for sure.
It's neat that you can have this competitive thing and you meet some really neat people in our sport.

Matata is totally different from Woodhill. In fact every round is quite unique and people do better at different locations. I freakin hate Maddocks Park but love Waimiha. Tokoroa was best.

[Ktmboy]

Thanks for the info. :niceone: perhaps we will stay somewhere else then! :2guns: :yawn: :zzzz: :yes: :rolleyes:
out of the range of the rooster :laugh:
or take some earplugs :laugh:

KTMBOY You still got that night ride on this weekend at the sandpit?

Yes, that reminds me. New post on Two Moons Pt 2

[Rupe]

Matata is totally different from Woodhill. In fact every round is quite unique and people do better at different locations. I freakin hate Maddocks Park but love Waimiha. Tokoroa was best.


Can you describe what matata is like so we have an idea before we turn up, thanks

[4stroke]

4 Stroke...Rookies I think not. You go good and Matata would suit you down to the ground. You'd be in the top 25% of clubbies.

.

oi im not that good, all i can guage off is riding with the like of you and brendon, im planing on heading out this weekend and give the busky a burn at the sandpit so i should see you there. im hopefully going to try and do the rmcc dome valley 2 man, its only 4 hours so i might iron man it if i cant find a team-mate.

[Buddy L]

your be in Clubmans Loyde. when i was doing the Gncc a few years ago on my 125, i was coming mid pack in clubmans, now on the 250 i would hope to do a bit better.

[barty5]

Yeah go in rookies we can see where you came easier then.

How is everyone getting to Matata. It's about a 4hr journey. I remember setting off 0430 from AK to get there for 0830 for the kids sign in I was knackered before I started so I intend staying down there the friday night this time. Anyone else?

my sisters place is in cambridge going to go down there on the friday night shortens the drive and dont get to knackered from drivin half the night either did that for the t100 then couldnt get to sleep till round 1-2am was stuffed in the morning

[takitimu]

Matata is totally different from Woodhill. In fact every round is quite unique and people do better at different locations. I freakin hate Maddocks Park but love Waimiha. Tokoroa was best.

g'day ktmboy, just curious how do you reckon the GNCC's would compare to say the Woodhill TTR enduro, sounds like they're a bunch of fun.

[Ktmboy]

g'day ktmboy, just curious how do you reckon the GNCC's would compare to say the Woodhill TTR enduro, sounds like they're a bunch of fun.

A bit more fast and furious as you are really racing the whole time. But then the race is only 2 hours long so you don't get very much time on the bike($55 for 2 hours).
The track at Matata is a mixture of Farm and forest. There are a couple of stoney creeks to cross and someone always takes a dunk.
The forest tracks are cool but if it's raining then watch out as some of the areas are Eucalyptus plantations and the ground foliage becomes like banana skins to ride on.
2 years ago and I wiped out 5 times on one 100 metre slight up hill track. Front wheel just disappeared.
A lot faster and rougher than Woodhill and your body gets a bit more beaten.

[A&R]

OK here's the results. (Of all I know anyhow) I'll keep it posted after the next rounds. If your unknown and want to add please do so.

After round 1 - woodhill

Expert

Chop 19th Brendan Abel WR250 4laps 2:27:09

Clubmen

KTM Boy 2nd Tony Beuth KTM300 5laps 2:11:29

The rest of us in Rookies

Dammad1 15th Daniel Mills 300EXC 5laps 2:28:39
Barty 5 18th Aaron Barton YZ450F 4laps 2:00:23
Rupecopp 44th Rupert Copping EC200 4laps 2:10:25
A&R 50th Andy Martin CRF250X 4laps 2:18:06
Reckless bent exhaust pipe and punctured radiator

[cheese]

Cheese - no show....

[krad_nz]

Wow, some pretty decent results you guys.

Good luck for the next round.