Everyone has an opinion whats yours. Hyosung?

[Gummie]

I have just bought one after spend a lot of saturdays trying bikes and for my height/weight it was comfortable. So now i am interested in people who do/dont own one and there thoughts good/bad.:shit:

Believe it or not my second choice was a honda vtr250.:shifty:

:stupid:

[Mr Merde]

It has two wheels and an engine.

Its a motorbike.

To me the rest is only a matter of personal taste.

Enjoy riding your pride and joy.


Chris

[iangee]

Why would you buy one then ask for opinions?!?!? I chose the Ninja over the hyobag, it suited me more height wise.... and I'm very happy with my choice! Happy riding...

[Creeping Death]

Same as above.Enjoy!

[Creeping Death]

It has two wheels and an engine.

Its a motorbike.

To me the rest is only a matter of personal taste.

Enjoy riding your pride and joy.


Chris

I ment this one...:done:

[98tls]

I have just bought one after spend a lot of saturdays trying bikes and for my height/weight it was comfortable. So now i am interested in people who do/dont own one and there thoughts good/bad.:shit:

Believe it or not my second choice was a honda vtr250.:shifty:

:stupid: Good choice,enjoy.

[Gummie]

I forgot to say :Oi: YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS :headbang: i have a bike :2thumbsup im excited on having a bike.
Why am i asking opinions now, cause i can. just curious as to what others think

And YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS i have two wheels Excelent,
Only bummer is i cant pick it up until saturday.

Enjoy posting so i can enjoy reading.

P.S. Its always good to have someone elses opinion, it gives you something to go against.

[CookMySock]

I have just bought one after spend a lot of saturdays trying bikes and for my height/weight it was comfortable.It's interesting that you find the GTR "comfortable" after trying lots of bikes, and it seems you HAVE tried lots of bikes.

Mine was really hard on my wrists and I figured there were other bikes that were more comfortable, not that we tried any of them - we instantly loved the GT250Rs styling etc.

Sounds like you have some experience - how do you find cornering it in comparison to the other bikes? Cornering mine feels like the real deal.

There are simple mods you should know about - cartridge emulators fir right in the front forks, totally transforming the front end of the bike - cost likely under $500. Rear shock gets replaced completely as its unserviceable, and the now-famous GT-R bumpy ride problem vanishes. This is the bikes biggest problem.

Steve

[MSTRS]

Perhaps they are getting better, but it's no coincidence that they are generally referred to as 'Hyobags'

[Hitcher]

but it's no coincidence that they are generally referred to as 'Hyobags'

Mostly by people who have never ridden one. Probably for the same reason that Honda riders are allegedly "gay" and why Harley riders allegedly never wave back.

Why do bikers have to be so fucking tribal about their bikes? We're already a minority amongst road users generally without further dividing ourselves against each other based on our choice of ride.

Perhaps this thread is just a troll, and I have unwittingly risen to nibble its dangling bait. I can but hope.

[007XX]

I forgot to say :Oi: YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS :headbang: i have a bike :2thumbsup im excited on having a bike.
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Congrats!!! :D It's always nice to see someone's excitement at their first bike purchase.

I have a VTR250 and I wouldn't have anything else to be honnest...but that's just me.

What I do know of the Hyosung, is that they're a very cool looking 250, sound good if they've got the right pipes, and are generally good value for the money.

However, when you get a good one, all is well, but if you get a bad one, then your life will pretty much be misery...or so I'm told!

So there is wishing for you that all is well and that you get to enjoy it as much as you deserve to!

[EJK]

I like Hyosungs. Abit overweight but it goes preety well! (compare to my current bike ffs!)

[DarkLord]

Whoflungs are on the improve, if you ask me. I used to have an '06 GT250R which I wrote off in a crash, and that was a bit dodgy, had lots of problems with it, such as fork seals blowing, bike hated neutral, etc.

I currently ride an '07 GT250R and it is a far better bike. Gear changes are a lot smoother, doesn't seem to wobble around corners like the old one did, and a wee bit peppier! My current Hyosung has done 25,000 k's and I've had next to no problems with it, besides a flat battery that needed to be replaced.

I think they are great learner bikes as they more or less give you the feel of a 600 (not due to performance of course - I'm talking in terms of weight and physical size) so that when you do upgrade it shouldn't be so much of a jump (at least in terms of getting used to the physical size of the bike) as it would if you went from a GN125 to a Hayabusa. :)

[Fatjim]

I think the Hydrobag name has been badly affected by some of the tossers who ride them.

[ckai]

Congrats mate. There's nothing like being on two wheels (whatever you drive/ride) or even 1! ;)

For me, I find the Hyo more stable that the Ninja probably because it's fat.

As for reliability, I had some big problems to start with but the guys at [insert plug in] Bay City Motorcycles were nothing short of brilliant. It didn't piss me off since it happened at the start and it's been sweet since.

And before any of you jump on it, the wife's ninja had issues as well but they were sorted also.

I can only compare the Hyo with the Ninja and for me the Hyo suits me heaps better and feels much nice to corner. The wife wanted one as well but looked like a midget on it. She digs the ninja though (just not as much as the Hyo :)).

It's so true what the say that you have to find a bike that suits you.



Why do bikers have to be so fucking tribal about their bikes?

Too true. Anyone else notice that sports bike riders very rarely get acknowledged by the "cruisers"? Or is that just because we look like pricks?

[slimjim]

aye..ya's pay acc levis...so its a bike...

[vtec]

I think the Hydrobag name has been badly affected by some of the tossers who ride them.

Tossers ride all kinds of bikes (especially Harleys). Hyosungs in reality, are heavy and the 250 is definitely underpowered. Also, I'm concerned about some of the design flaws and underengineering which have gone into systems such as the braking and suspension. The benefits, they are cheap, reliable enough, look alright (if you don't know what it is).


Mostly by people who have never ridden one. Probably for the same reason that Honda riders are allegedly "gay" and why Harley riders allegedly never wave back.


Harley riders are snobs pretending to be tough wank wank. Nobody with real engineering knowledge or passion about motorcycle design and performance buys a Harley. It's all about image, just like Emo's and Goth's. Put them on a real sports bike and most of them will crap their pants and not have a patch on any of the racers.

Honda riders are "gay" because they are really common, and always take the middle ground and are effectively "boring" because they are so reliable and neutral. And because other bike brand owners feel that because they are less common their bikes are somehow better and have more "personality". I like a "boring"/predictable bike, because in my case the rider makes enough crazy without the bike adding to it.

Hyosungs are the new "Honda" though because they are now the most common, except without the engineering excellence. So Hyosungs are the new "gay" motorbikes... sorry.

But I suppose it's a long running joke that the Honda fleet are "gay" right back from the Bruce and Darryl era. It's never going to go away hehe. I'm sure they were the main proponents of Honda = gay.

[rphenix]

Mostly by people who have never ridden one. Probably for the same reason that Honda riders are allegedly "gay" and why Harley riders allegedly never wave back.


Well put and my sentiments exactly.

[NOMIS]

my honda aint gay,..

my hornets the shit..... and what,

[FJRider]

I think the Hydrobag name has been badly affected by some of the tossers who ride them.

Most motorcycle brand names, have "inflictions" imposed on their owners, due to percieved, or actual, problems during ownership of said brands. Never let truth stand in the way of a good bike bashing session...

[vtec]

You want truth? You can't handle the truth.

Truth is the 250 has faulty brake master cylinders.
Truth is the Rear shock is extremely poor and often fails
Truth is the front forks are extremely soft and apparently prone to seal leaks
Truth is the front brake levers when set on 6 can jump to setting one which could bring the lever back to the handle bar during hard braking.
Truth is when you drop them even standing still they can be written off
Truth is even at just about stationary speeds when dropped the handlebars and levers have a propensity to brake off
Truth is they are heavy and made of steel instead of aluminium
Truth is the CDi has faults which often causes it to need replacing
Truth is the Kawasaki GPX250 which was designed as a commuter in the 1980's is a better bike on many levels

Now for the positives.
Cheap
Relatively pretty if you like the angular look
They do sound nice
And I'm pretty sure they are cheap on gas
Good if you are a big dude who just wants to take it easy


In comparison my 19 year old CBR250RR's when dropped at speed often is still perfectly rideable straight afterwards.
The brakes are awesome
The suspension is average to middling
The power is far superior
It turns on a dime
I think it's prettier
It's definitely smaller lighter and more nimble
somehow it's really comfortable and has quite an upright sitting position for cruising but is equally at home on the race track vs the 400's.
The engines seem indestructable for something that revs to 18-19,000rpm and cruises at 10,000rpm, despite their age.
At $5g for a good one second hand, it's cheaper than the Hyo, and you'll be able to get more k's out of it aswell.

And second hand parts are easy to come by as heaps of squids have smashed them up proper.


All of the above relates to posts about the Hyosung 250, the 650 may be of better quality.

[slofox]

Why do bikers have to be so fucking tribal about their bikes?

Ahhhhhhh..."cognitive dissonance theory" explains this parsnicular point.
Once a person buys something, they tend to develop nagging doubts as to their choice, so they work real hard to convince themselves that they have indeed bought the best, not a dog. They do this by working to convince everyone else to buy as they did. This way, they belong to the "best" crowd and therefore they have the "best" bike (or whatever) which assuages those nagging doubts.
Great theory that and I do believe it has some accuracy in real life in so far as it describes what a lot of people do, in fact, do......

[NOMIS]

Ahhhhhhh..."cognitive dissonance theory" explains this parsnicular point.
Once a person buys something, they tend to develop nagging doubts as to their choice, so they work real hard to convince themselves that they have indeed bought the best, not a dog. They do this by working to convince everyone else to buy as they did. This way, they belong to the "best" crowd and therefore they have the "best" bike (or whatever) which assuages those nagging doubts.
Great theory that and I do believe it has some accuracy in real life in so far as it describes what a lot of people do, in fact, do......

pffft not street fighter riders, well ones who fighter bikes because they crashed them arnt included....

I dont think there many bikes i would be totally satisfied with from factory there are a few however..

I don't like hearing hey man where you get that headlight from I want to do that to my hornet. lol whyyyyy then there would be 2 of us. :-) reason I modded my bike is to make it diff from everyones elses . and I havnt seen another one similar in this country..... yet.

[firefighter]

You want truth? You can't handle the truth.
In comparison my 19 year old CBR250RR's when dropped at speed often is still perfectly rideable straight afterwards.
The brakes are awesome
The suspension is average to middling
The power is far superior
It turns on a dime
I think it's prettier
At $5g for a good one second hand, it's cheaper than the Hyo, and you'll be able to get more k's out of it aswell.

wow a straight bike aftrewards?! I'd rather it fall to bits so no-one ends up buying a bike that's been fucked up in a wreck........and claim the insurance.

Wow, 5 G for a 20 YEAR OLD BIKE!!!! I think i'd rather have a nice brand new one for $1000 bucks more.......or a second hand one 18-20 years younger for about the same price as that, and yeah my first bike is from that era by the way...

And how could you possibly know you'll get more kms out of a 20 year old bike?which probably has already done 50k? (the bikes are still new)

[firefighter]

Honda riders are "gay" because they are really common, and always take the middle ground and are effectively "boring" because they are so reliable and neutral. And because other bike brand owners feel that because they are less common their bikes are somehow better and have more "personality". I like a "boring"/predictable bike, because in my case the rider makes enough crazy without the bike adding to it.

Erm, gays are known to generally have crazy personalities- and un-predictable, so that blows the honda right out of your argument.......maybe a kawasaki would suit your argument better there dude!

[jrandom]

Nobody with real engineering knowledge or passion about motorcycle design and performance buys a Harley. It's all about image, just like Emo's and Goth's.

But, that's just not true. Harleys of the last decade are built very well, and are lovely bikes to ride. Expensive, to be sure, but not all of them are - how about the new XR1200 at $16K RRP, eh? Fookin drool!

That said, I rode a 1340 a few months back which saw fit, after an hour or two of 'moderate pace' two up, to piss a fine mist of hot oil all over my legs, the exhaust, the frame, etc.

:laugh:


Put them on a real sports bike and most of them will crap their pants and not have a patch on any of the racers.

Oh, come on. Most sport bike riders don't have a patch on any of the racers. I'd venture to suggest that the proportion of HD riders who 'can ride' and the proportion of sprotbike pilots who 'can ride' are about the same.

[OutForADuck]

Hey Congrats on getting the bike.

Not long ago I was lent a Hyosung 250 to do a "quick" tour along with a T675. As a result of the size difference the little Hyosung spent the entire 14 hour trip with the throttle at the stop and except where the mountains were just too challenging it managed to sit at 80mph and all this two up :shit:.

It reminded me of bikes from the 80's with cheaper suspension and some handling gripes, but with the price tag it carries, a damn good little budget bike. You'll have a lot of fun and burn a lot less money than some of us :blink:

[Rev DJ]

Ahhhhhhh..."cognitive dissonance theory" explains this parsnicular point.

Now you are making my brain hurt :blink: - its Friday for gods sake!!!! :laugh:

Like my GT-R though!! DJ

[gw555]

it's cheaper than the Hyo, and you'll be able to get more k's out of it aswell.



And how many ks is that???????

[vtec]

Well I bought a crashed up one for parts with over 100,000k's for $1000, that was including being raced by a bloody maniac called HDTBoy. And I sold the engine for about $300, I sold the forks for $300, and the wheels and tyres and discs for $500. So I ran that at a profit and had lots of spare pieces left over.


wow a straight bike aftrewards?! I'd rather it fall to bits so no-one ends up buying a bike that's been fucked up in a wreck........and claim the insurance.

No insurance on the race track. Plus insurance is run at a large profit. I prefer to self insure so no bastard profits off me. I don't generally crash on the road. In general when you do have an off on the road, it's just a drop at low speeds in the wet on a roundabout or something... and you're happy that Hyosung's making disposables? That's a big part of what's wrong with the world at the moment.

I've crashed CBR250RR's really quite badly, and yes I got taken out by a guy on a Ducati 900 in a warmup lap (he swung onto me in a corner) and the bike was carwheeling and lost all it's fairings and broke handlebars off and twisted the front forks in their triple clamps. Missed the rest of that race, but got it back to the pits and managed to borrow parts off RoadRash's CBR250RR to get it going again albeit naked, and I WON the following streetstock races on it. Bought some new fairings and rearsets and bars, raced another season on it, and won a VMCC championship on that bike. They crash awesome. I think I've crashed at least 5 times on CBR250RRs. Only broken bars once. and only slightly bent the rearsets. Had to loosen the triple clamps to twist the forks back into position.

Last time I raced at Philip Island I won the first race then crashed in the second, broke off the front brake lever and nobody had any spares. So I had to sit it out. My next race is at Winton on the 12th of October. I've never been to that track before, and I don't do practice days anymore, so I'll be trying to find my way around there and win at the same time too.

Maybe it's a Honda thing I crashed my CBR600RR race bike quite bad (including a highside) and it was still all good. That 600 had crashed at least 5 times that I know of.

The number of times HDTBoy crashed his CBR400RR it wasn't funny, still sold it to another racer. Was so ugly though.

[portokiwi]

It has two wheels and an engine.

Its a motorbike.

To me the rest is only a matter of personal taste.

Enjoy riding your pride and joy.


Chris

I ment this one...:done:
Me too i agree. as long as it works. And you are happy Who the F@#k cares.

[gw555]

Okay, will let you know when I get there then

[vtec]

But, that's just not true. Harleys of the last decade are built very well, and are lovely bikes to ride. Expensive, to be sure, but not all of them are - how about the new XR1200 at $16K RRP, eh? Fookin drool!

That said, I rode a 1340 a few months back which saw fit, after an hour or two of 'moderate pace' two up, to piss a fine mist of hot oil all over my legs, the exhaust, the frame, etc.

:laugh:



Oh, come on. Most sport bike riders don't have a patch on any of the racers. I'd venture to suggest that the proportion of HD riders who 'can ride' and the proportion of sprotbike pilots who 'can ride' are about the same.

Don't try defending Harleys, if it wasn't for the Jappers making decent bike and stealing a lot of their market share, they'd still be making crappy carbed temperamental aircooled lumps of arse. Aren't they all still carbed?

As it was they had to get Porsche in to design a water cooling system for their V-Rod. How lame is that.

They've had all sorts of problems over the years, they're just lucky that many of their riders know how unsafe the bikes are and ride to the bikes ability which isn't all that fast. Because firstly they can't take corners, my dad's boxer-six Honda Valkyrie could out corner them, secondly they can't stop and most harley riders insist that the front brakes are not to be touched ???, thirdly the suspension on them is usually rubbish and far less comfortable than the modern japper cruisers. Fourthly the engines are unreliable and sound like they are coughing and farting at idle. And they put out pathetic horsepower for their cubic capacity, and their fuel range is rubbish. I can't see one advantage of owning a Harley over owning an M109R or similar.

And they are priced really high to appeal to the snobbiness of the baby boomer generation and make them feel exclusive. And then they go and pretend to be hard??? WTF?

[vtec]

Wow, 5 G for a 20 YEAR OLD BIKE!!!! I think i'd rather have a nice brand new one for $1000 bucks more.......or a second hand one 18-20 years younger for about the same price as that, and yeah my first bike is from that era by the way...

And how could you possibly know you'll get more kms out of a 20 year old bike?which probably has already done 50k? (the bikes are still new)

Can you get a brand new 250 for $6g, I've been in Aussie for a bit. And they don't even make 250's of the same calibre as the CBRs and ZXRs of old.

Let me know if you know of one Hyosung 250 that's managed more than a hundred thousand k's without an internal rebuild. I know of many CBR's that have.

Also with regard to your comment about my description of what people meant by Honda's = gay, Gay has different meanings, it can mean a homosexual, or in the old days it used to mean happiness, it can also be used as a flippant meaningless insult, which is the way it's been used here (except it was used jokingly). Like saying something sucks (which gay people often do) hahaha. You're welcome to call Kawasaki's gay if you like I'm not stopping you. It would just have different meaning to how it was said with regard to Hondas. I just think that Hyosungs and Harleys are pretty gay.

[firefighter]

Can you get a brand new 250 for $6g, I've been in Aussie for a bit. And they don't even make 250's of the same calibre as the CBRs and ZXRs of old.

Let me know if you know of one Hyosung 250 that's managed more than a hundred thousand k's without an internal rebuild. I know of many CBR's that have.

Also with regard to your comment about my description of what people meant by Honda's = gay, Gay has different meanings, it can mean a homosexual, or in the old days it used to mean happiness, it can also be used as a flippant meaningless insult, which is the way it's been used here (except it was used jokingly). Like saying something sucks (which gay people often do) hahaha. You're welcome to call Kawasaki's gay if you like I'm not stopping you. It would just have different meaning to how it was said with regard to Hondas. I just think that Hyosungs and Harleys are pretty gay.

Well that would be a bike with a very tough life!That's a lot of kms for a bike to do in a couple of years!

There's more than one meaning for gay!? :shit: Yes I realise that! And I was actually taking the piss......and no I don't think Kwakas are gay, in fact I owned an early 90's 250 kwaka, and loved it, and my dream bike would probably be a ZX6R or an R6. I don't think ANY bike is gay really, I love all bikes, and generally try to stay clear of the tit-for-tatt pissing contest aguements about how much cooler one bike is than another - because I pretty much love all bikes (ok the odd ones I hate but not many) I love harleys, triumphs, naked, motrads, sports, cruisers, i'm a bike slut hahahaha, if I won the big one i'd have every bike I could get my hands on!

And as for you thinking harleys and hyos are gay- that's cool, different strokes man, fair enough, I didn't like them to start with, until I rode one, but really I have no issues with that, I'm just saying give them a chance to prove themselves, they could be pieces of shit when they're 10, meh, I like mine and have had no issues with it .............yet! (touch wood)

[scumdog]

Don't try defending Harleys, if it wasn't for the Jappers making decent bike and stealing a lot of their market share, they'd still be making crappy carbed temperamental aircooled lumps of arse. Aren't they all still carbed?

As it was they had to get Porsche in to design a water cooling system for their V-Rod. How lame is that.

They've had all sorts of problems over the years, they're just lucky that many of their riders know how unsafe the bikes are and ride to the bikes ability which isn't all that fast. Because firstly they can't take corners, my dad's boxer-six Honda Valkyrie could out corner them, secondly they can't stop and most harley riders insist that the front brakes are not to be touched ???, thirdly the suspension on them is usually rubbish and far less comfortable than the modern japper cruisers. Fourthly the engines are unreliable and sound like they are coughing and farting at idle. And they put out pathetic horsepower for their cubic capacity, and their fuel range is rubbish. I can't see one advantage of owning a Harley over owning an M109R or similar.

And they are priced really high to appeal to the snobbiness of the baby boomer generation and make them feel exclusive. And then they go and pretend to be hard??? WTF?

Wa-wa-wa-wa......

[Drew]

Congrats on the new bike!

This thread has taken a predictable turn, but is entertaining none the less.

If ya like a bike, the most replies you'll get on here are negative when asking what people think. Seems more popular to slag off than to not offer an opinion through lack of actual knowledge.

I've only ridden a GT250 that'd been dropped, and the left hand bar was broken off. Other than the remote clutch I thought it was pretty good.

[Hadley]

You'll find that people who actually own Hyosungs generally like them, and people who have ridden them once or twice will more often than not say they are shit.
I think they are a good learner/commuter and serve as a great stepping stone to a larger capacity bike.
Im happy with mine and would much rather have a new Hyobag than an 20 year old other brand bike.

[jrandom]

spit froth blither, Harleys go around corners slower than my CBR600, etc

OK, man, whatever you say. Sorry to see you got all that loathing goin' on.

[Gummie]

Nothing unusual in the way of comments.
I seemed to of tagged on a few chain but that is to expected of anything any body owns, if someone else owns something different then theirs is always shit.
i am glad some people are getting a good thrashing on their keyboards as their opinions of their bikes its good to see (good in, bad out LOL):bash:

Only time now can tell if this bike is a lemon or something that will last the distance, but as all of you know that IS the fun part.

Anyway must head to work and hope to give you a wave on the roads.

[Sable]

Overweight underpowered unreliable Ducati rip-off styled learner motorcycle made by a South Korean lawnmower company. However, that's not necessarily a bad thing. A lot of motorcycling's appeal is about the look of the thing. I wanted to get one of these, then I saw a brand new DRZ400SM in black and gold for the same price which I wanted more, then realized I could afford neither and bought what I have now, which would blow the pair of them away if it were working properly.

[carver]

sack of shit....

there are more bad things than good that i can say about this.
the japs build their bikes in a factory

hyosung build theirs in a shed

[Jerry74]

Hyosungs are built from old coke cans, cast offs from the briggs and stratton lawnmowing company part bins.

I know a couple of guys with Hyobags who are just waiting to trade them in for more reputable brands.

Look the part but underpowered.

My old Kawasaki outperforms Hyosung anyday.

[Fatt Max]

Nice choice mate.
I personally went for a VL250 cos I am a fat bastard and need the leg room, but at the end of the day it's your bike and you are going to love it...just be on the look out for little scum bag drivers who try and run you off the road.
Enjoy mate, I should have got on 2 wheels 20 years ago but loving it now.
Take care, ride safe and eat pies...

[tri boy]

Gawd there is alot of teenage dribble in this thread.
"Korean lawnmower company"????????WTF!
Do some research on S and T Korea, (who are the major backers of Hyosung).
NZ's major R+D companies look like kiddies playing with blocks compared to it.
Fonterra should contract their science research to them.
Hyosungs WILL be one of the major players in the m/cycle world over the next two decades.

As for being heavy, underpowered 250's:tugger: you puppies have never ridden old crap have you?

[woza]

You want truth? You can't handle the truth.

Truth is the 250 has faulty brake master cylinders.
Truth is the Rear shock is extremely poor and often fails
Truth is the front forks are extremely soft and apparently prone to seal leaks
Truth is the front brake levers when set on 6 can jump to setting one which could bring the lever back to the handle bar during hard braking.
Truth is when you drop them even standing still they can be written off
Truth is even at just about stationary speeds when dropped the handlebars and levers have a propensity to brake off
Truth is they are heavy and made of steel instead of aluminium
Truth is the CDi has faults which often causes it to need replacing
.

Just to confirm somethings on this list.... my rear brake master cylinder siezed on me last week (7500km). Bike fell over in garage and snapped off the left handle bar. Clutch cable snapped at around 6000km. Otherwise has been a good commuting bike and handles long rides with relative ease (as long as you don't have to pass in a hurry).

[Fub@r]

You want truth? You can't handle the truth.

Truth is the 250 has faulty brake master cylinders.
Truth is the Rear shock is extremely poor and often fails
Truth is the front forks are extremely soft and apparently prone to seal leaks
Truth is the front brake levers when set on 6 can jump to setting one which could bring the lever back to the handle bar during hard braking.
Truth is when you drop them even standing still they can be written off
Truth is even at just about stationary speeds when dropped the handlebars and levers have a propensity to brake off
Truth is they are heavy and made of steel instead of aluminium
Truth is the CDi has faults which often causes it to need replacing
Truth is the Kawasaki GPX250 which was designed as a commuter in the 1980's is a better bike on many levels


My Hyo has done 35k and I have snapped 2 clutch cables.........thats it!

My brake cylinder is fine

My rear shock is fine

My front forks seem a little soft.....change the oil

Front brake lever........if you are "cruising" at 160kph approaching a T intersection and grab the brakes when the bike is at its limits and an accident occurs you only have yourself to blame

Standing still and about stationary are the pretty much the same thing? If an insurance company prefers to write it off so be it. You can steal the seats out of some brand new cars and they would be written off. Does that indicate a poor build quality? Also been on a few KB and other rides where people have had "near stationary" offs on a variety of bikes and just about every time the clipon has snapped off. Is the CBR somehow indestructable compared to every other bike on the market?

As for being heavy, they are not built as race bikes who cares. Rather the learner etc ride this bike at lower speed than be a retard on a CBR who thinks he's in a superbike race and an accident waiting to happen

CDI unit....no problems at all

The bikes are built for the learner market primarily, they serve that market well. Quite a few people that have the more serious problems with these bikes from reading forums here and overseas. When you actually look in to how they treat the bike and how they ride it they are usually doing so well outside the limits of reasonable use.

Its no different to driving to the conditions, its called common sense.

If people want to drive a family Toyota Starlet like its the GTi model for example........make sure you have life insurance

[vtec]

Yep, noted good crashers include:
Early 90's CBR250RR
Late 80's and early 90's CBR400RR
Early 2000's CBR600RR
Early 2000's CBR600F4i (one of the best many people use them for stunt bike because of their near invulnerable frame)
These are just the ones I know take crashes really well, I'm sure there are plenty of others, feel free to add to the list if you know proven good crashers. I'm pretty sure kickingzebra's K6 GSXR600 took his many crashes quite well? Did he ever manage to destroy it in the end?
I've never broken a rear peg hanger in all of my many crashes. Slightly bent one. HDTBoys CBR250RR when I bought it had a broken peg hanger (rearset) though.
Anyone know how well VFR400's crash? I want one.

Learning to ride on an RGV250 and a CBR250RR made me a competitive racer the moment I hit the track. I'm pretty sure learning to ride on a lump like the GT250 would have stunted my growth as a competitive rider.

If you're not concerned with the performance of your motorbike and don't intend to ride it hard ever, then you may as well get yourself a Suzuki UZ125. They rock, reliable, fast up to 80 and will do 100 or more if drafting, use pretty much no gas, heaps of fun, comfortable sitting position. Kick ass. and were only $3g last time I looked.

I'm not the best racer in the world but I think I'm better than most. Racing at Winton this weekend on my $2500AUD CBR250RR. Haven't been on that track before, but still in with a good chance of taking home the $200AUD prize money for the day. Will let you know how I get on.

[fizzafulla]

hyo 250s are slow.

[avgas]

great bikes. no issue at all with me when i ride them.

[avgas]

Yep, noted good crashers include:
Early 90's CBR250RR
Late 80's and early 90's CBR400RR
Early 2000's CBR600RR
Early 2000's CBR600F4i (one of the best many people use them for stunt bike because of their near invulnerable frame)
These are just the ones I know take crashes really well, I'm sure there are plenty of others, feel free to add to the list if you know proven good crashers. I'm pretty sure kickingzebra's K6 GSXR600 took his many crashes quite well? Did he ever manage to destroy it in the end?
I've never broken a rear peg hanger in all of my many crashes. Slightly bent one. HDTBoys CBR250RR when I bought it had a broken peg hanger (rearset) though.
Anyone know how well VFR400's crash? I want one.

Learning to ride on an RGV250 and a CBR250RR made me a competitive racer the moment I hit the track. I'm pretty sure learning to ride on a lump like the GT250 would have stunted my growth as a competitive rider.

If you're not concerned with the performance of your motorbike and don't intend to ride it hard ever, then you may as well get yourself a Suzuki UZ125. They rock, reliable, fast up to 80 and will do 100 or more if drafting, use pretty much no gas, heaps of fun, comfortable sitting position. Kick ass. and were only $3g last time I looked.

I'm not the best racer in the world but I think I'm better than most. Racing at Winton this weekend on my $2500AUD CBR250RR. Haven't been on that track before, but still in with a good chance of taking home the $200AUD prize money for the day. Will let you know how I get on.
Did you have a point or were you blowing smoke again?

[Mr. Rock]

my hyo is in perfect condition, couple of teething probs which were assembly issues from the douche who put it together.

i have noticed that majority of people who say they are slow have 400s, 600s, or above.. never thort that a 600 would be quicker than a entry level 250.. go figure.

im happy with it.. better than my old fxr150, but not as good as the TL1000R i rode. no suprise there.

ive heard/read alot of horror stories with hyos but none seem to be applicable.. my brakes are still on the bike and work perfect, gearbox sweet, neutral is sweet. levelers are sweet.. nothing out of the blue or strange..

[2fellas]

yea mate good on ya i had my gt250 r for 4 months now its great i love it ..i had me license for over 10 years havnt had a bike for a few years bought the bike new from bay city in tauranga and it runs like a dream . i am off to taihape on it this weekend i have been all over on mine ...i say good on ya and enjoy ur ride :):Punk:

[rphenix]

my hyo is in perfect condition, couple of teething probs which were assembly issues from the douche who put it together.

i have noticed that majority of people who say they are slow have 400s, 600s, or above.. never thort that a 600 would be quicker than a entry level 250.. go figure.


I've noticed the same thing :)

The bikes are nice and comfortable to ride, don't look anorexic. We have two in our family. I've replaced a clutch cable now on both bikes and that's been the only mechanical fault for thousands of K's and over a year of riding.

[vtec]

I was comparing to CBR250's and ZXR250's. You can't deny that the Hyo's are on par with the GSX250's... and below par in comparison to the GPX 250's. So as far as I can tell they are the second slowest 250 sportsbike made since the 80's... and they are new! But I was more concerned about the build quality, and fragility.

I still ride and race CBR250's even though I've raced 600's and spent time on the track on things as big as Hayabusa's. They are just heaps of fun without the extreme danger.

[avgas]

ok lets do some simple math here.
ZXR,CBR,FZR....... 4 cylinders, basically descaled race engines.
GSX,GT..... 2 cylinders, stolen from a cruiser.

I'm no rocket science buddy - but you don't seemed 2 clued up if your trying to compare those bikes.
Ironically in this world of motorcycles sometimes the name of the game isn't speed. Shit look at the BMW F800......lovely bike, faster than a ducati - no, same price as a ducati - yes.

Before you go making more half assed comments - i'll ask you this. Do you think Suzuki's TL1000, SV1000, SV650, and SV400 were cool, reliable, fast bikes? who made them?

For the fact of the matter - reliability is the eye of the beholder. I had a shit run with fixing mates cam setup on CBR250's.....where my Malaysian (or whatever) RG150 went non-stop for 30,000K until i finally blew it up.
10 year old CBR = $5000, last forever so long as you chuck parts at it $$$
brand new RG150 = $3000, last for 30-60,000 until you blow the bloody thing up.

I imagine the hyosungs will end up being the same, ride it for 80,000ks - walk away from it.

[vtec]

Yeah most of what you said is fair.

Although if you don't drop the CBR250's, you don't need to "throw" parts at it. And even when you do, you often get away with merely fairing damage.

And I'm sorry if my post offended, I'm just stating the situation as I see it and was defending my stance after people were accusing the detractors of the Hyosungs as comparing them with 600's and saying that they were being compared with non-learner bikes when in reality we're comparing them with other 250's. We were comparing on a cost/value/reliability/performance/looks level. Whining because the CBR250 has four cylinders is like whining about a 6 cylinder being better than a 4 cylinder with the same engine capacity (on an assessment of power/reliability/handling/fuel efficiency/cost effectiveness/build quality)... if it's better it's better. But even when compared with a GPX250 inline 2 cylinder, designed in the early 80's, it's still not up to par.

I've spent some time on TL1000s, and I think they are definitely no race bike. Very awkward to control, but cool, do mean wheel stands, but are possibly the most likely bike to throw you off for a minor slip of the wrist. I think the TL1000 and the SV650 are cool bikes yes. I never derided the Hyo GT650 either, although I can take the odd shot at it if you would like me to :). But when it comes to the 250s, the Hyo 250 is a little poor.

The 2 strokes although being fast are unreliable, and I've always argued that. I started on a pepsi replica RGV250, and I had heaps of issues with it. But there is definitely some things I miss about it, like the peaky power curve felt great


GSX,GT..... 2 cylinders, stolen from a cruiser and maybe that's the crux of the problem. It's a boring commuter/cruiser engine stuck in a sporty looking heavy bike, and sold as a sportsbike for a price that does not match it's performance or arguably its build quality.

And just because you were struggling with cam setup on a CBR250 doesn't mean that they are unreliable. It means that you were doing stuff you probably didn't have enough knowledge to do safely. I've had the cams off the CBR250 to do it's 30,000k valve adjustment, and you do need to know the pitfalls otherwise you will likely break something.

And speed is only one of many areas where the Hyosung 250 is lacking, and it's part of what makes bikes fun is how quick and agile they are.

[carver]

ok lets do some simple math here.
ZXR,CBR,FZR....... 4 cylinders, basically descaled race engines.
GSX,GT..... 2 cylinders, stolen from a cruiser.

I'm no rocket science buddy - but you don't seemed 2 clued up if your trying to compare those bikes.
Ironically in this world of motorcycles sometimes the name of the game isn't speed. Shit look at the BMW F800......lovely bike, faster than a ducati - no, same price as a ducati - yes.

Before you go making more half assed comments - i'll ask you this. Do you think Suzuki's TL1000, SV1000, SV650, and SV400 were cool, reliable, fast bikes? who made them?

For the fact of the matter - reliability is the eye of the beholder. I had a shit run with fixing mates cam setup on CBR250's.....where my Malaysian (or whatever) RG150 went non-stop for 30,000K until i finally blew it up.
10 year old CBR = $5000, last forever so long as you chuck parts at it $$$
brand new RG150 = $3000, last for 30-60,000 until you blow the bloody thing up.

I imagine the hyosungs will end up being the same, ride it for 80,000ks - walk away from it.

my old one is dying at 40,000-50,000km dude....

thats a old comet

[Dolph]

I've just spent a couple of hours reading as much info on the Hyo GT250 as I can find,....and now I'm totally confused :doh:

Problem: I am finally in a position to get through my bike test (i.e. living in the same place for more than six months at a time !). Now comes the task of choosing a suitable 250 for mainly commuting 70kms a day and occasionally heading off for a weekend jaunt (possibly with with my wife pillion).

Solution: Research the various 250 options available, both new and used, then do the deal,...either privately or through a dealer.

However,......what I find is a lot of bikes around 10-15 years old, still asking $5-6k,.....or the option of a Hyosung, brand new from a dealer with a two year warranty ?!?!

I thought that would be the simplest decision ever,....until that is I started doing the research !! Seems lots of people knock them (never read the term Hyobag on the dealer's websites ?!),...yet an equal number praise them.

I don't want to thrash it round the track,...so the weight/power issue doesn't worry me too much. Yes, looks are very important and the fact that they resemble a few other bigger bikes is good in my eyes. BUT,...the fact that they may disintergrate at the slightest knock (according to some people),...that worries me ?!?! A problem for me is the fact that I live in Kerikeri and the dealers are all in Auckland. That's a bit of a trek if there is a warranty issue to sort out ?!?! Then this 4,000km servicing,...again, bit of a drive !!

So, KB,...what's your thoughts ? Go for the shiney new bike (with some potential foibles) and have some comeback,...or risk an old bike whose history is questionable ??

BTW, love the site - :jerry:

[vtec]

I'm a CBR250 fan, but a VTR250 is a better commuter, or maybe a 250 motard. The CBR250's do rev high when cruising at 100, although you could change a sprocket size.

If I had to do it all again, I would still go for a CBR250RR mc22 with what I know now, but a 250 motard with some decent road tyres would be a very close second :)

Like you say, you aren't planning on being a racer, a VTR250 or a CBF250 would do you great. If you are new to riding, you will most likely have a drop and those fancy plastic fairings will get ugly fast. So a naked with crash bungs would be cool.

The Kawasaki ZXR250's aren't as reliable as the Hondas. They are more prone to leaks and expensive internal work like cam chain adjusters. But they are just as fast and handle great too. I'm pretty sure there's minimal problems with the GPX250's, I just don't like the way the look... The rear suspension and forks look... wrong, but for a twin they are fast and lightish.

The Hyosungs, personally I wouldn't touch them. As per all my aforementioned bitchings.

If you are happy on a cheap boring cost effective reliable learner bike, then a GN250 would be the go.

Remember nakeds might not be as pretty, but they get more street cred from blokes. Chicks look at them and think ugly though.

And 2 strokes? Only buy one if you've had tonnes of prior experience with them. The world is sort of phasing them out nowadays, for very good reasons.

And ALWAYS wear your gear. If you knew when you were going to have a crash you could avoid it. Never think Oh I'll just be careful. Crashes happen when you don't expect them otherwise you could avoid them.

[NOMIS]

Remember nakeds might not be as pretty, but they get more street cred from blokes. Chicks look at them and think ugly though.

**Cough** EXCUSE ME!!!!! pfffttt...!!!!!!!

[CookMySock]

..the fact that they may disintergrate at the slightest knock (according to some people),...that worries me ?!?!What you are seeing, or is not seeing?, is the pack of jerks who pass themselves off to be the moral core of KB, who are in fact a pack of jerks. There is little or nothing wrong with the Hyos for a sport/commuter/learner bike. I have three of them. Just watch the abuse that follows my post and you will see.

There ARE issues, just like there are with any other bike. The issues are well documented (stand switch, CDI, etc) and they are easily and cheaply fixed, even without a warranty.


A problem for me is the fact that I live in Kerikeri and the dealers are all in Auckland. That's a bit of a trek if there is a warranty issue to sort out ?!?! Then this 4,000km servicing,...again, bit of a drive !!

So, KB,...what's your thoughts ? Go for the shiney new bike (with some potential foibles) and have some comeback,...or risk an old bike whose history is questionable ??You have a couple of options ;

Go for a brand new GT250R and hope like hell you don't have warranty issues - trailer trip to town.

Buy a really really tidy second-hand one that has had its issues resolved. I know where there is such a bike - PM me if you like.

Buy an older one and fix it up.

HTH
Steve

[Dolph]

Thanks for the reply vtec...


...but a 250 motard with some decent road tyres would be a very close second :)

If you are happy on a cheap boring cost effective reliable learner bike, then a GN250 would be the go.

Remember nakeds might not be as pretty, but they get more street cred from blokes. Chicks look at them and think ugly though.


I had thought about the motard option,...have to do a bit more research on that.

Yes, I suppose there are always the GN250's,...but I can imagine I probably would not enjoy it as much as other bikes (not that I'm a poser,..but, well,...looks are important !)

I'm not too keen on the racing bike posture (although I must admit, I've not tried one out !) I really like the naked bike look and the riding position. My wife will love it whatever I get,...not too bothered about the other birds ! At the minute I like the VTR250, the Bandit 250 and the Hyo GT250. There are others, but these are the stand-outs at the minute.

I think for now I'll get some gear sorted, keep reading the (often very amusing) posts :laugh: and progress with the license.
Cheers

[Dolph]

Thanks for the info mate,...yes, I see a lot of 'brand bashing' (I notice that no-one even mentions Lifan or Keeway ?!!?)



You have a couple of options ;

Go for a brand new GT250R and hope like hell you don't have warranty issues - trailer trip to town.

Buy a really really tidy second-hand one that has had its issues resolved. I know where there is such a bike - PM me if you like.

Buy an older one and fix it up.


I guess ultimately,...it's up to me !!

I read that the 2007 models fixed a lot of the known issues. I'm wary of buying an earlier model,...in case the issues have not become apparent yet. Plus, I don't know if I'll have the patience/time/tools/knowledge to work on an old one !!

And I don't really see the advantage of buying an older bike for which they are asking $4-5k,...compared to a brand new GT250 for $5700. I feel that the older bikes should be a bit cheaper !!

[Gummie]

i was asking everyones opinion on these bikes and i think i got it.:whocares:

like me you are right, its your desision.
Research, its always good. opinions are good too.
but it is going to be your bike, buy it love it ride it:Punk:

[CookMySock]

Thanks for the info mate,...yes, I see a lot of 'brand bashing' (I notice that no-one even mentions Lifan or Keeway ?!!?)haha, fuck no! That would be instant death on KB.



I'm wary of buying an earlier model,...in case the issues have not become apparent yet. Plus, I don't know if I'll have the patience/time/tools/knowledge to work on an old one !!

And I don't really see the advantage of buying an older bike for which they are asking $4-5k,...compared to a brand new GT250 for $5700. I feel that the older bikes should be a bit cheaper !!Nah the "older" ones aren't that old - unlikely you will have anything to fix on it, unless you are really rough on it.

Theres one down the road from me, lady owner, never ridden by a teenager, never been over 120km/hr, mint tidy, etc. She wants top dollar, but its worth it. 20,000km's on it - all issues fully resolved - solid bike. Yes so the advantage is you get a solid bike. Even the new ones aren't that solid. Mind you, one of our new ones we haven't put a spanner on in 6,000km's and counting. Occasionally you will find a 2nd hand one under 1,000k's for 6k'ish.

Ride one if you can too, they are great fun and feel awesome.

Steve

[racefactory]

Hyosung- well... when i see that name i think of 3 things:

heavy
air cooled
slow

I've know they often have faulty rear master cylinders and bad forks too.

I guess for the many newbie folk who are always willing to pay for the idea of a warranty and 'new' it's ok but other than that i can't imagine many people would buy it.

It certainly is not the most pretty machine and it doesn't have the looks to compete with the early 90's machines... give me a ZXR/CBR/RGV/TZR/NC30 ANYDAY in the looks department...

BUT... at the end of the day it is a bike and therefore i'd love to ride it! Good luck to those with them...

[NOMIS]

Thanks for the reply vtec...



the minute I like the VTR250, the Bandit 250 and the Hyo GT250. There are others, but these are the stand-outs at the minute.

Cheers

Stick with the first 2. and seriously have you looked at a hornet???

Both VTR and Bandit sound good with a decent pipe

[racefactory]

And I don't really see the advantage of buying an older bike for which they are asking $4-5k,...compared to a brand new GT250 for $5700. I feel that the older bikes should be a bit cheaper !!

Why do some people shy away like this? 'new'? The 'older' bikes will go well past 100 000k and are better built machines and parts are never hard to come by. Plus those 'older' bikes have the looks to beat the bikes of today in many peoples opinions. In many ways they are way more up to date than the hyosung. Personally I'd way rather buy a 1991 ZXR250 CBR for 4 grand than a GT250 for $5700. They just don't make them like they used to in the 250 class... and no i am not some old guy!!

...plus they are waaay quicker.

So apart from the 'new and warranty' factor... they are an advantage in every percievable way I think?

[CB ARGH]

I friend of mine rides one of the Hyosung GTR250R's, he says that it is an excellent bike, the best part is the mileage that you get out of a tank. I have never rode one so I'm just choosing a side by checking out all the reviews online.

What made me steer away from the Hyosung is the drop in value over a few years or over 15-20,000 km's (depreciation I think it's called).

Apart from that, I cannot see what is wrong with it. They look like very nice bikes, let's just hope that the power-to-weight ratio doesn't worry you.

[racefactory]

the best part is the mileage that you get out of a tank. I have never rode one so I'm just choosing a side by checking out all the reviews online.



What he didn't tell you is that it has an absolutely ginormous tank so mileage is actually nothing special..

[CookMySock]

What he didn't tell you is that it has an absolutely ginormous tank so mileage is actually nothing special..Not so! The actual fuel efficiency of the GT250R is outstanding. 400km on 15-16 litres - do the math! Even higher (touching 500km) if you are just riding quietly around town.

But yes, having a large tank is great for touring - 400km range at open-road speeds!

Yes, the inline 4 250's sound really cool, and they have more power, and they will do 180 clicks where the GT250R will only do 150 ish. (flat ground)

All that really needs resolving on the GT250R is suspension and tyres - same as any other bike, after that its just bling. (change the crap headlight bulbs too - fit quartz halogen)

And as for them being a total lemon with everything falling off of it - theres one bloke on KB posting this week about returning his (widely-respected brand name, purchased brand new, non-hyosung) bike after 20,000+kms coz its a total piece of crap, so its not just hyo's that have a bad one occasionally.

Steve

[vtec]

Firstly, although the CBR250RR is a decent sports/race bike, its riding position is brilliant. It's small so you're not stretched out like the modern 600's. I'd hazard a guess to say it's more comfortable than the Hyos. I've couriered on it for 9 hours a day before. There was also the odd guy on Hyosungs couriering aswell.

Also the mileage on the CBR250RR's is about 220-240km with me riding it :P Or just shy of 20km/l. But the Hyo's fuel mileage look very respectable. That's the advantage of running a slow bike though.

Get a UZ125 and they will do 40km/l. And they are heaps of fun too. My ex girlfriend bought one after telling me that my suggestion was shit when we were together.

[Dolph]

Thanks lads.

I had a quick look at a brand new Hyo today. Looked quite nice in my opinion, but did feel a bit plastic in some respects. However, I need more models to compare them too before making a real judgement. At the end of the day "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

I'm leaning towards the Bandits at the minute and no, I've not checked out any Hornets yet. If I can get some gear for the $5-600 mark and a bike for $3-3,500 I'll be chuffed.

I'll just keep 'researching' for now. But all this info is good stuff cheers. :cool:

[rphenix]

Hyosung- well... when i see that name i think of 3 things:

heavy
air cooled
slow

I've know they often have faulty rear master cylinders and bad forks too.

I guess for the many newbie folk who are always willing to pay for the idea of a warranty and 'new' it's ok but other than that i can't imagine many people would buy it.

It certainly is not the most pretty machine and it doesn't have the looks to compete with the early 90's machines... give me a ZXR/CBR/RGV/TZR/NC30 ANYDAY in the looks department...

BUT... at the end of the day it is a bike and therefore i'd love to ride it! Good luck to those with them...

Have to disagree. I think the Hyosung's look better, certainly compared to the 80's Kawa 250's look. I likem all the GT, GTR, GV.

And what is with everyone going on about how slow hyo's are we seem to go over this all the time on KB. If you want a fast 250 don't even consider a 4 stroker.

Regarding reliability well they have a warranty compared to the same price CBR thats 15 years old. The parts are cheap and I haven't heard of anything major dying on a Hyo yet. Replacing a $60 master cylinder and some break fluid is hardly a big deal neither is cutting a wire on the CDI.

The USD forks I've heard a few comments, the forks are fine on our GT, and the GV suspension is doing okay 18 months after we got the bike(s) so no problems here and I'm a fat bastard so if anyone was going to damage the suspension it would be me.

The only negative gripe of mine is some of the small parts could have better finishing touches e.g. the paint job on the GV mirrors could be better.

[CookMySock]

The USD forks I've heard a few comments, the forks are fine on our GT, and the GV suspension is doing okay 18 months after we got the bike(s) so no problems here and I'm a fat bastard so if anyone was going to damage the suspension it would be me.Cool you have two hyos ? We have three, hehehe.

The forks are easy and cheap to upgrade with racetech cartridge emulators. I'm going to upgrade one of our GT250Rs front and rear suspension this summer, so I will report on this. There should be light years of difference.

Steve

[vtec]

Have to disagree. I think the Hyosung's look better, certainly compared to the 80's Kawa 250's look. I likem all the GT, GTR, GV.

And what is with everyone going on about how slow hyo's are we seem to go over this all the time on KB. If you want a fast 250 don't even consider a 4 stroker.

Regarding reliability well they have a warranty compared to the same price CBR thats 15 years old. The parts are cheap and I haven't heard of anything major dying on a Hyo yet. Replacing a $60 master cylinder and some break fluid is hardly a big deal neither is cutting a wire on the CDI.

The USD forks I've heard a few comments, the forks are fine on our GT, and the GV suspension is doing okay 18 months after we got the bike(s) so no problems here and I'm a fat bastard so if anyone was going to damage the suspension it would be me.

The only negative gripe of mine is some of the small parts could have better finishing touches e.g. the paint job on the GV mirrors could be better.

Tell me that the CBR250RR in these race results is slow:
http://www.silver-bullet.co.nz/eventresults.php?eventid=5510&cid=117

[Nagash]

What's with all these sensible, unbiased opinions?

If you want to know the opinion you're going to get when talking with other bikers they have a reputation of being unreliable, slow, un-able to do slow speed cornering (this one's actually true), cheap pieces of Korean crap.

It's not true, but that's the general consensus on a hyo-bag.

Enjoy your bike! I personally reckon they're great bikes.

[Radar]

I have just bought one after spend a lot of saturdays trying bikes and for my height/weight it was comfortable. So now i am interested in people who do/dont own one and there thoughts good/bad.:shit:

Believe it or not my second choice was a honda vtr250.

Like you, my second choice was a VTR250, but then I test rode a GT250R and it was MUCH better. Could not cope with the lean forward position so got a GT250 naked bike and I would recommend Hyo 250's (and 650's) to anyone - as long as they are willing to put up with crap comments from others who like to trash Hyo's just for the satisfaction of being pri*ks.

See the post I made today on the Hyosung Reliablility thread.

[Mr. Rock]

I've just spent a couple of hours reading as much info on the Hyo GT250 as I can find,....and now I'm totally confused :doh:

Problem: I am finally in a position to get through my bike test (i.e. living in the same place for more than six months at a time !). Now comes the task of choosing a suitable 250 for mainly commuting 70kms a day and occasionally heading off for a weekend jaunt (possibly with with my wife pillion).

Solution: Research the various 250 options available, both new and used, then do the deal,...either privately or through a dealer.

However,......what I find is a lot of bikes around 10-15 years old, still asking $5-6k,.....or the option of a Hyosung, brand new from a dealer with a two year warranty ?!?!

I thought that would be the simplest decision ever,....until that is I started doing the research !! Seems lots of people knock them (never read the term Hyobag on the dealer's websites ?!),...yet an equal number praise them.

I don't want to thrash it round the track,...so the weight/power issue doesn't worry me too much. Yes, looks are very important and the fact that they resemble a few other bigger bikes is good in my eyes. BUT,...the fact that they may disintergrate at the slightest knock (according to some people),...that worries me ?!?! A problem for me is the fact that I live in Kerikeri and the dealers are all in Auckland. That's a bit of a trek if there is a warranty issue to sort out ?!?! Then this 4,000km servicing,...again, bit of a drive !!

So, KB,...what's your thoughts ? Go for the shiney new bike (with some potential foibles) and have some comeback,...or risk an old bike whose history is questionable ??

BTW, love the site - :jerry:

i dont no whether this has been addressed or not yet.. but i have had a couple of friends get bikes about the same time as me (i have the new hyosung) one mate who brought a VTR has had compression issues and now needs to rebuild the engine and stuff.. other mate has a fxr 150 and well being older is needing work.. and well the brand new bike is where its at. i have not had ANY major issues. and if i do.. unlike my mate with the VTR i have a warrenty. so id say go to the new bike. Two up it still goes alright. obviously not as good as a bigger bike but it doesnt stuggle.

[Dolph]

Still researching though,...and trying to save pennies !!! I think one of the main problems is the 'age' of the reputation of Hyosungs. Perhaps older bikes had issues, and these have formed the reputation. Naturally, as with any company, these issues are gradually ironed out. Problem is that it is hard to shake off a rep !

Like I said,...still researching. But thanks again for the useful info :yes:

[Dolph]

Still researching though,...and trying to save pennies !!! I think one of the main problems is the 'age' of the reputation of Hyosungs. Perhaps older bikes had issues, and these have formed the reputation. Naturally, as with any company, these issues are gradually ironed out. Problem is that it is hard to shake off a rep !

Like I said,...still researching. But thanks again for the useful info :yes: