Akl- Meadowbank-Drainlayer needed urgently

[xgnr]

Hi all

The house at the front has been demolished and the new owner tells me that my water pipe runs through his property. It goes underground and we don't know where it exits the property. I suspect that a trench across the back section is required to locate it.

The Section is going to be dug out to 300mm in a week and I risk having no water if they cut it.

I need someone to locate it (alkathene or whatever) and cut, route a new pipe down the ROW then reconnect. Probably 50m or so. No paving or anything, the section is clear.

The new owner is not being particularly helpful so I have to get this work arranged (at my cost) grrrrr.

Cash job if you like. I will be on the phone in the morning to get underway but if someone has a mate that is reliable then PM me or ring 0275-763-519

This pisses me off :2guns:

Cheers

Stu

[Mully]

Do you not have the documents showing where the pipes run??

Check with the council, cos it might be his problem if the pipe already exists on his land (you may have an easement)

[xgnr]

Do you not have the documents showing where the pipes run??

Check with the council, cos it might be his problem if the pipe already exists on his land (you may have an easement)

Yeah thanks. Somehow I doubt it as the services are not marked for anyone around this particular ROW as far as we can tell.

I will try and check tomorrow but the developer probably knows that these are not subject to an easement hence his indifference about my water supply!

Key thing is to get something underway as he is just as likely to cut it and shrug his shoulders. "should" be a simple job eh (tui add coming)

[Mully]

Seems that you should have an easement for services.

The developer is probably aware but doesnt want to pay for it to be fixed.

Check the title to your place as well. Any easements should be on there, and the LIM, and probably part of the Sale and Purchase agreement.

[xgnr]

Seems that you should have an easement for services.

The developer is probably aware but doesnt want to pay for it to be fixed.

Check the title to your place as well. Any easements should be on there, and the LIM, and probably part of the Sale and Purchase agreement.

Yeah its a bugger alright but gets me is that nothing is broken (yet). He is ripping the land up yet I have to run around getting the pipe moved off his land BEFORE he breaks it grrrrr.

I seriously doubt there is an easement on his property for the pipe. Its a damn weird place for it to be run (across part of his section then appears to then go under my other neighbours driveway before terminating at my place. Some dodgy prick did the plumbing work according the locals so now it all turns to poo.

[Pumba]

Cant help with the drain layer part of it, but can I ask is your property on a seperate title? or is it a cross lease? Either way even if there has been somthing weird done previous he has no right to cut off your water, I know it is a pain in the arse but my first calls would be to the council to see what info they can provide you with.

[xgnr]

Cant help with the drain layer part of it, but can I ask is your property on a seperate title? or is it a cross lease? Either way even if there has been somthing weird done previous he has no right to cut off your water, I know it is a pain in the arse but my first calls would be to the council to see what info they can provide you with.

Separate title with a shared ROW for the driveway that four properties use. The water pipe and other utilities "should" have been run down the driveway but who knows what the hell was done. (but we are finding out the hardway now)

Yeah I will call the council tomorrow and see what the situation is. Fukin hate having to drop everything to deal with this sort of stuff just 'cos he has these guys booked in and they are on a tight timeframe!

[Pumba]

Sounds messy, however not uncommen. Try not to let the guy bully you to much, a few hours on the phone with council, however painfull it will be, might save you a fair but of money

[The Stranger]

Hi all

The house at the front has been demolished and the new owner tells me that my water pipe runs through his property. It goes underground and we don't know where it exits the property.


There are 2 ways you may locate it.
1) At 3:00am when ambient noise is at it's lowest run every tap in the house then see if you can trace the sound either from the meter up or the house down.
2) If that fails - OK I know I shouldn't say this - divining.
Yes divining.
As a lad I used to wonder why the linesmen would keep brass rods in their kits. When first told I laughed like fuck and thought they were yanking my chain. I have seen it work many times and have used it many times too. We wouldn't always locate the cable, you wouldn't know until you dug, but would always locate something, often a water pipe.

So ok ridicule away.

[xgnr]

Sounds messy, however not uncommen. Try not to let the guy bully you to much, a few hours on the phone with council, however painfull it will be, might save you a fair but of money

Thanks for the advice. Will get on the blower today... just hope they are a bit more responsive than most of the local/central govt orgs in their responses.

Cheers

Stu

[xgnr]

There are 2 ways you may locate it.
1) At 3:00am when ambient noise is at it's lowest run every tap in the house then see if you can trace the sound either from the meter up or the house down.
2) If that fails - OK I know I shouldn't say this - divining.
Yes divining.
As a lad I used to wonder why the linesmen would keep brass rods in their kits. When first told I laughed like fuck and thought they were yanking my chain. I have seen it work many times and have used it many times too. We wouldn't always locate the cable, you wouldn't know until you dug, but would always locate something, often a water pipe.

So ok ridicule away.

Might just try 1)... as to 2) hmmmm interesting but wouldnt know where to start :laugh:


Cheers

stu

[Nasty]

Might just try 1)... as to 2) hmmmm interesting but wouldnt know where to start :laugh:


Cheers

stu

Heya

Our main water pipe had a leak in it last week .. somewhere underground .. that is all we knew.

The plumber came along and did the following:

Cut the old pipe where it came into the house
Laid a new pipe (top of ground one)
left the old one where it was .. as it ain't used anymore ...

This is one of the things they are doing now since digging out pipes is truely considered a waste of money.

[The Stranger]

Might just try 1)... as to 2) hmmmm interesting but wouldnt know where to start :laugh:


Cheers

stu


If you are stuck, I'm happy to pop over and give you a laugh.

[sinfull]

If the water runs across his land it might not be the only service that does so !
I'd be talking to a lawyer ! or at the least your insurance company !
Overhead or underground power ? Was your house there before or after the front house ?
Go take a box of piss to a neighbour and ask them, if the shit does hit the fan (scuse the pun) if you can hook water up to their tap, power (for light and fridge freezer etc

[xgnr]

Heya

Our main water pipe had a leak in it last week .. somewhere underground .. that is all we knew.

The plumber came along and did the following:

Cut the old pipe where it came into the house
Laid a new pipe (top of ground one)
left the old one where it was .. as it ain't used anymore ...

This is one of the things they are doing now since digging out pipes is truely considered a waste of money.

yeah same idea. Cut it off at both ends and relay a new one. The challenge is finding one of the ends :(

[Nasty]

yeah same idea. Cut it off at both ends and relay a new one. The challenge is finding one of the ends :(

With the water pipe both ends should be easy ... one at the house with the tap into the house .. the other at the mains ... I am buggered if they do it different up there though :(

[Katman]

2) If that fails - OK I know I shouldn't say this - divining.
Yes divining.


You may laugh, but I swear by it.

(With pinpoint accuracy).

And it doesn't need to be brass rod. Good old #8 will do the same job.

[lb99]

You may laugh, but I swear by it.

(With pinpoint accuracy).

And it doesn't need to be brass rod. Good old #8 will do the same job.

ha, I have workmates that can do it accurately too.

I usually do my divining with the digger bucket, works pretty good too, so far I have flound plenty of water pipes, stormwater, sewer, and the odd telecom using this method :doh:

I saw an old dude use the rods to find a holesaw that the boy dropped in the mud and then drove over a few times just for good measure..... worked ok.

on topic, where is your meter?,if its on the street that will be the start of your water feed, it should be a straight line to your house, if your meter is up the drive, then maybe the council is responsible for everything upstream of there?

[The Stranger]

ha, I have workmates that can do it accurately too.

I usually do my divining with the digger bucket, works pretty good too, so far I have flound plenty of water pipes, stormwater, sewer, and the odd telecom using this method :doh:

I saw an old dude use the rods to find a holesaw that the boy dropped in the mud and then drove over a few times just for good measure..... worked ok.

on topic, where is your meter?,if its on the street that will be the start of your water feed, it should be a straight line to your house, if your meter is up the drive, then maybe the council is responsible for everything upstream of there?

I was going to suggest the digger bucket as plan C - let them locate it with their digger. You'll know exactly where it is then all for free.

I think you will find he is in the Auckland City area. Much of this area has no meters.

[xgnr]

well an update....

Rang the Council

"The pipe is his problem as it relates to existing user rights i.e. he has to repair and maintain etc as it is on his property"

yay sez I

"But check with Metrowater"

OK so I do

"You need to check with the Council"

I did sez I

"oh... well I cant offer advice but suspect that it's your problem"

Is there anyone that knows I asked.

"hmmmm probably have to talk to a lawyer"

So, based on the assumption that this new neighbour is just as likley to

a. cut the water with a big mo' fo digger and
b. build a house over the pipe anyway which will be an arse in the future.

I have rung a drain layer to get the damn thing moved as soon as possible. God knows where the pipe goes, a digger dug trenches all over the place yesterday and there are sewer pipes and storm water pipes and other old pipes but no sign of mine. :confused:

Pictures for clarity, my house is down the driveway to the left behind the digger and another old place. I suspect my water pipe runs through his place as well :crybaby:

Cheers

Stu

[xgnr]

photo of my place, water connects at front right so you see the problem with just running a new pipe to it right :eek:

[lb99]

you could lift them, and team up with your neighbours, run a new main down the drive, its not impossible, get some beer, a heap of blokes and hand dig it (shudders at thought), could be done in a day or to with minimal disruption, pavers are easy to reinstate too

[xgnr]

Owner rang me this evening saying they found the pipe. :banana:

Easy to run another one from the road down the drive and hook up where it fuking well should be.

yay

Box of beer for the drainlayers when they on site tomorrow for a quick relay of some pipe down the ROW.

Cheers and thanks for your advice

Stu

[xgnr]

Shot home yesterday and had a yarn to the plumber.

Couldn't do the job as he had no pipe in the wagon.

No worries he sez, "I will get the boss to give you a call with a price"

Office Chick rings "yep, got you a price.... lay 35M of 25mm pipe, dig a trench 300mm deep by about 2M long at the end... connect to existing water pipe"

"Thats $748"

WOT

"Plus GST"

Holy shit :eek5:

So, I am getting me gummies out, heading off to sumfukathatsellscheappipe and doing it meself.

and to add insult to injury

"We will credit the fittings we have used to fix your pipe instead of billing you"

BYE sez I...

Time to get get a sweat up with some honest toil

:sweatdrop