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ital916
8th October 2008, 18:51
What is your opinion in moving/touching others motorcycles in cases where you deem that they are infringing on the rights of other motorcyclists or people. Would you like it if it happened to you...just wondering. I'm not trolling, just inquisitive. Take this thread below as an example.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=83380
cs363
8th October 2008, 18:56
Well on one hand I wouldn't like it, but then on the other hand I wouldn't park in an inconsiderate manner like that - especially if I knew it was an issue and had been advised of this previously as it appears that person had.
Besides....it would take a shit load of people to move my bike at 275Kg, lol
kevfromcoro
8th October 2008, 18:58
well....no..you dont touch other peoples bikes...
98tls
8th October 2008, 18:59
Dont touch nor rarely ride other peoples bikes,women however i am open to suggestions:girlfight:If i left my bike in such a place as to obstruct another persons movements (which i wouldnt) then if it was moved then it deserved to be.I have a very annoying scratch on my tank,quite large to from some retard climbing on it pissed with his own bike keys in hand at a rally,as i say very annoying.
Forest
8th October 2008, 19:00
It is all about respect.
If you don't show respect for other people, then you shouldn't expect to receive any in return.
ital916
8th October 2008, 19:01
Hmm indeed...I'm not bagging on the smc, the thread is just timely with the discussion haha, they had consulted with this person prior to taking action. But should an action have been taken against the bike or should action have been taken with the governing body for the carpark.
People always complain that governing bodies don't care or don't listen, so when does it become a case of self governing. I'm thinking bout this too hard, I should go back to studying flow induced vibrations and aerodynamics.
cs363
8th October 2008, 19:04
Dont touch nor rarely ride other peoples bikes,women however i am open to suggestions:girlfight:If i left my bike in such a place as to obstruct another persons movements (which i wouldnt) then if it was moved then it deserved to be.I have a very annoying scratch on my tank,quite large to from some retard climbing on it pissed with his own bike keys in hand at a rally,as i say very annoying.
Yeah, touching/sitting on etc other peoples bikes that are parked legally/considerately is a definite no-no, for just the reasons you've outlined. However, my understanding of the above situation is that they deserved what they got and in fact were probably lucky as it saved the bike getting towed, so the owner probably should be grateful (assuming no damage was caused and it was moved with care - as it appears it was)
MadDuck
8th October 2008, 19:05
I think its wrong to touch someones bike without asking them first.
Afterall if you see a car parked in a handicaped space or in a place it shouldnt be what would you do?
Rockbuddy
8th October 2008, 19:06
touch my bike go to hospital simple really :bash:
ital916
8th October 2008, 19:12
touch my bike go to hospital simple really :bash:
but what if you parked it badly, using up two spaces, or part of a footpath and left it there knowing it was an obstruction, if someone told you and you did it again, would you consider that would give them the right to touch or handle your property. I don't see how it does but most people do agree with that sentiment it seems.
MadDuck
8th October 2008, 19:20
but what if you parked it badly
I do this quite often
using up two spaces
Yep I do this quite often too because I suck at parking. Just ask anyone who knows me.
or part of a footpath and left it there knowing it was an obstruction
Hmmm...once or twice but only if I cant be bothered walking too far.
Personally I dont think it is right to touch anyone elses property without permission be it a bike or anything else......
ital916
8th October 2008, 19:21
I do this quite often
Yep I do this quite often too because I suck at parking. Just ask anyone who knows me.
Hmmm...once or twice but only if I cant be bothered walking too far.
Personally I dont think it is right to touch anyone elses property without permission be it a bike or anything else......
Yay someone who agrees.
cowboy
8th October 2008, 19:34
touch my bike go to hospital simple really :bash:
Im with you RB :niceone: I wouldnt touch anyones bike wether it be a moped or a boss hoss & would be real pissd if someone touched mine :2guns::ar15::spanking:
Headbanger
8th October 2008, 19:36
I'm so hardcore I don't even dare touch my own bike, I hear the owner is a right bastard.
CookMySock
8th October 2008, 19:55
I would be really surprised and maybe a bit irritated if someone moved my bike, unless they were experienced with heavy bikes and had a good reason, in which case I wouldn't mind at all.
If someone with zero experience moved my bike for any reason and then proceeded to drop it I would be exceedingly tempted to clout them.
If a large and expensive-looking motorcyle HAD to be moved for some logistical reason, I would volunteer to do it - my bike is damn heavy and I have a very good idea on what is feasible and what is not. Some bikes with locked steering can't easily be moved without stand-pivoting, and I would probably not attempt that.
I would not move a bike for legislative reasons, unless I knew the person well and I was about to save them a lot of money in fines.
Steve
blue eyed savage
8th October 2008, 20:08
what if u find a hysoung gt250r that had fallin over in the wind(and dumb parking) happened to me on the weekend. my mate found it in the uni car/bike park. on its side. so we picked it up and parked it proply so it count fall over agane. is that ok?
Pedrostt500
8th October 2008, 20:17
I do not knowingly park in a manor to require my bike to be touched by any one else, if it had to be moved for a good reason I would exspect to be told about it as soon as practicaly possible, I am wary of those who will just fuck with my bikes for no reason, and will show them parts of their internal organs that they have never seen before.
Its simple fuck with my bike I kill You!.
Headbanger
8th October 2008, 20:21
what if u find a hysoung gt250r that had fallin over in the wind
Do the right thing, Put the boot into the bitch.
Headbanger
8th October 2008, 20:23
I do not knowingly park in a manor to require my bike to be touched by any one else, if it had to be moved for a good reason I would exspect to be told about it as soon as practicaly possible, I am wary of those who will just fuck with my bikes for no reason, and will show them parts of their internal organs that they have never seen before.
Its simple fuck with my bike I kill You!.
You deserve to be mocked for that melodramatic reach-around, Do you have a drinking problem?
jrandom
8th October 2008, 20:23
Do the right thing, Put the boot into the bitch.
Sounds like too much effort.
Pickaxe through the side of the tank, chuck a match in, sorted.
notme
8th October 2008, 20:25
Seems like Darwinism at work in a way. Park like a fucktard and bad shit happens. Park properly and it doesn't.
This does of course exclude people who might fukk with a bike for no reason, but some things you can't control.
And to blue eyed savage - good on ya. If that was my bike, I would hope that you left a note explaining what you did so that I knew where the damage came from and which 2 chaps I should be buying a beer for. :Punk:
Mom
8th October 2008, 20:25
Yep I do this quite often too because I suck at parking. Just ask anyone who knows me.
Personally I dont think it is right to touch anyone elses property without permission be it a bike or anything else......
It is not that you suck at parking so much, it is more the fact your bike takes up too much room!
Plus one for the dont touch my ride!
I see the thread about the dick pushing his luck parking at the Uni in Auckland. Simple really, he has been told, warned and probably reminded a few times. Report him and get his bike moved "officially"! Be a dick, get treated like one too!
Dont touch my bike!!
CookMySock
8th October 2008, 20:30
what if u find a hysoung gt250r that had fallin over in the windIf you discover my bike on the ground, I would rather I picked it up. Aside from the damage that is already done, it is easy to do further damage when recovering it. What a shame such a bike got tipped over though. :pinch:
Steve
cs363
8th October 2008, 20:30
It is not that you suck at parking so much, it is more the fact your bike takes up too much room!
Plus one for the dont touch my ride!
I see the thread about the dick pushing his luck parking at the Uni in Auckland. Simple really, he has been told, warned and probably reminded a few times. Report him and get his bike moved "officially"! Be a dick, get treated like one too!
Dont touch my bike!!
Agreed - nice to see someone who actually read the other thread! :)
The worst part about that scenario is that it sounds like he is/was endangering a good thing for a whole bunch of others. Whilst I'm dead against people interfering with others property I think, from what I can gather from the thread that it was totally justified, though for my part I would have reported him and had it towed rather than moving it myself - exactly the same course of action as I'd use for the scenario mentioned above re: someone parking in a handicapped parking space illegally.
Gubb
8th October 2008, 20:32
If someone with zero experience moved my bike for any reason and then proceeded to drop it I would be exceedingly tempted to clout them.
Insurance is cool like that huh? At least your self-insurance of $200K will cover it.
I would volunteer to do it - my bike is damn heavy and I have a very good idea on what is feasible and what is not.
I hardly think that a Hyosung 650, is considered a "heavy bike", that is unless that Hello Kitty shirt you're so fond of has shoulder pads in it.
madbikeboy
8th October 2008, 20:33
I park my bike carefully, and with consideration. If someone moves it, care of GPS, I'll know, and my phone will get a message. 0.02 seconds later, someone will be in pain, and it won't be me.
I've come back to my bike to find someone fucking with it. They bled and needed a lie down. End of story.
blue eyed savage
8th October 2008, 20:33
And to blue eyed savage - good on ya. If that was my bike, I would hope that you left a note explaining what you did so that I knew where the damage came from and which 2 chaps I should be buying a beer for. :Punk:
would have but didnt have a pen or paper. bike had been droped 2wice before by the look of it. hope he/she took note of how it was parked when he/she found it.
being a 250 i think thay need all the help thay can get so one day the can have bikes like all u KBers out there.:hug:
Ragingrob
8th October 2008, 20:35
Lol. A biker perspective?
Aren't the Uni SMC bikers that moved the bike bikers?
I'd rather have my bike moved by fellow bikers with good intentions, then to have my bike towed by a tow truck driver who doesn't give a shit that chains loosely holding a bike ain't too good for it.
blue eyed savage
8th October 2008, 20:36
two of us moved it and i looked at the stand before leaving
Little Miss Trouble
8th October 2008, 21:00
Personally I'd be highly pissed if my bike were moved without good reason in the situation out lined, fair enough... I guess, though thats the crux of this whole issue isn't it? is there ever a good enough reason to be moving someone elses bike?
Forest
8th October 2008, 21:07
Personally I'd be highly pissed if my bike were moved without good reason in the situation out lined, fair enough... I guess, though thats the crux of this whole issue isn't it? is there ever a good enough reason to be moving someone elses bike?
Yes there can be a good reason.
A fire-engine or ambulance always has the right to move parked vehicles.
Quailboy
8th October 2008, 21:13
I wouldn't want my bike touched/sat on/moved, who does? I just wouldn't put myself in that position.
Thats just being a lazy ass or arrogant prick leaving it right where it is when it doesn't have to be. He deserved to get it moved.
notme
8th October 2008, 21:13
Personally I'd be highly pissed if my bike were moved without good reason in the situation out lined, fair enough... I guess, though thats the crux of this whole issue isn't it? is there ever a good enough reason to be moving someone elses bike?
Yes, there is.
However, the people who can see that reason, are not likely to ever park their bike in such as way as to need it moved for a good reason.
Little Miss Trouble
8th October 2008, 21:26
Yes, there is.
However, the people who can see that reason, are not likely to ever park their bike in such as way as to need it moved for a good reason.
Exactly right :yes:
In the situation mentioned I think those involved did the best they could with what they had. I'd be interested to hear what the owner of the bike thinks, whether he has changed their behaviour at all, any of the SMC guys able to fill us in?
Ragingrob
8th October 2008, 21:29
Exactly right :yes:
In the situation mentioned I think those involved did the best they could with what they had. I'd be interested to hear what the owner of the bike thinks, whether he has changed their behaviour at all, any of the SMC guys able to fill us in?
Only happened a couple of days ago I believe, didn't see the bike in there today :p
Personally I've never seen anyone park that stupidly, sure on the footpath but off to the side, but c'mon, in the middle?!
MadDuck
8th October 2008, 21:35
What is your opinion in moving/touching others motorcycles in cases where you deem that they are infringing on the rights of other motorcyclists or people. Would you like it if it happened to you...just wondering. I'm not trolling, just inquisitive. Take this thread below as an example.
Exactly right :yes:
In the situation mentioned I think those involved did the best they could with what they had. I'd be interested to hear what the owner of the bike thinks, whether he has changed their behaviour at all, any of the SMC guys able to fill us in?
This post is in the general forum not the SMC. Its a valid question open to the general forum.
So most responses are "touch my bike and die".....when you can afford a real bike maybe you will understand ?
Little Miss Trouble
8th October 2008, 21:38
Only happened a couple of days ago I believe, didn't see the bike in there today :p
Personally I've never seen anyone park that stupidly, sure on the footpath but off to the side, but c'mon, in the middle?!
Haha, I can think of one situation where I park bang smack in the middle of a giant footpath (near a support pole so it is actually out the way) coz the nice Mr Security Guard told me to so he can keep an eye on it for me :2thumbsup:Police::clap:
Little Miss Trouble
8th October 2008, 21:49
This post is in the general forum not the SMC. Its a valid question open to the general forum.
So most responses are "touch my bike and die".....when you can afford a real bike maybe you will understand ?
Meow!
My reference to the SMC guys was because this whole thread started from something that happened at A.U.
See here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=83380
As I'd already said, I'd be extremely pissed and would definately have a go at anyone moving my bike without good reason, but if said people did in fact know what they're doing and did it carefully with good reason ie saving some retard towie who doesn't give a shit from damaging it then, thanks:yes:
Short answer, don't park like a moron in the first place and then no one will have this problem
Slyer
8th October 2008, 23:13
I left my bike parked nicely next to a cheesecutter in the middle of the motorway and they towed it. The nerve!! Cost me $180 to get it back.
Justified? Yes.
They moved a bike five metres because the dickhead left it in the middle of a walkway after being warned on several occasions not to put it there, he continued to do so knowing full well that he was fucking it up for everyone else who had worked hard to gain use of that parking area.
Justified? Yes.
PirateJafa
8th October 2008, 23:25
This post is in the general forum not the SMC. Its a valid question open to the general forum.
So most responses are "touch my bike and die".....when you can afford a real bike maybe you will understand ?
Despite the fact that there was even a link to the SMC thread in the very first post. Read the thread.
And it looks a lot more 50/50 as to responses either way.
But most of all, your comment about "affording a real bike" is fucking bollocks.
Any motorbike is just that. A motorbike, and deserving equally as much respect as the bike next to it.
That said, I consider a GPX to be a far more "real" bike than the anchor you ride. About the only thing that would stop me moving your bike would be the fact that I don't have a forklift handy.
Any bike can be it's owner's pride and joy. Unless it's a four-stroke.
notme
9th October 2008, 06:02
I was about to reply in the same vein as PirateJafa.....but then cast my eyes towards MadDuck's infobar and saw what a "real" bike is.
Suddenly the attitude makes sense......:laugh:
ital916
9th October 2008, 06:49
This post is in the general forum not the SMC. Its a valid question open to the general forum.
So most responses are "touch my bike and die".....when you can afford a real bike maybe you will understand ?
:spanking::spanking:, all bikes are cool. Saying that is like breaking one of the ten biker commandments.
enigma51
9th October 2008, 07:04
I think its wrong to touch someones bike without asking them first.
Afterall if you see a car parked in a handicaped space or in a place it shouldnt be what would you do?
I have a lot of car mirrors at home
Blossom
9th October 2008, 07:17
There are circumstances where moving my bike without my presence and immediate knowledge would be tolerable.
1. If I parked it dangerously/illegally (Like in front of a fire exit and there was a fire)
2. If the emergency services needed to move it to get their job done, save lives.
4. If I was too stupid or arrogant that after many warnings to move my bike from a specific footpath, someone with more brains than me respectfully and taking much care moved it to a safer location, I would be ok with that. I would even thank them that they didn't arrange to get it towed.
But thats just me. I would not touch another bikers bike though. Thats just asking for trouble.
XxKiTtiExX
9th October 2008, 07:20
Don't see people hopping in someones car and shifting it, why touch someones bike? :confused:
Swoop
9th October 2008, 07:23
Dont f*ck with someone elses bike.
Park your bike with consideration for other riders.
If you move someones bike (picking it up) leave a note.
*exception to #1* If you ride a scroter and park like a complete moron, expect to find it moved. Learn to park like other bikers do, instead of using a cager mentality. (pet peev at work... blardy scroter parking sucks big hairy dog balls!)
CookMySock
9th October 2008, 07:38
I'd rather have my bike moved by fellow bikers with good intentions, then to have my bike towed by a tow truck driver who doesn't give a shit that chains loosely holding a bike ain't too good for it.Shit yeah. It wouldn't bother me at all if someone used to handling a heavy bike moved my one.
Don't see people hopping in someones car and shifting it, why touch someones bike? :confused:I can and will. If the car is unlocked and its a manual, I can slip the handbrake off and push it half a meter, re-apply handbrake - problem solved, no harm done. If the keys are in it and it has to be moved to let another vehicle out, then just do it if you are experienced at it.
You are guys are way to angry and territorial about this shit. No one is trying to deliberately smash whats yours. Lighten up, geez. I know you worry about someone dropping your baby, but as long as the person moving it is more careful/concerned/experienced than you, then you don't have much to worry about. Don't be so precious. And if you are going to make someone bleed over it, the only biker being an asshole is you. (unless they drop it, that is..)
Oh, and get a really huge scary-looking bike - NO one will touch that, no matter what. I wouldn't.
Steve
XxKiTtiExX
9th October 2008, 07:47
Shit yeah. It wouldn't bother me at all if someone used to handling a heavy bike moved my one.
I can and will. If the car is unlocked and its a manual, I can slip the handbrake off and push it half a meter, re-apply handbrake - problem solved, no harm done. If the keys are in it and it has to be moved to let another vehicle out, then just do it if you are experienced at it.
You are guys are way to angry and territorial about this shit. No one is trying to deliberately smash whats yours. Lighten up, geez. I know you worry about someone dropping your baby, but as long as the person moving it is more careful/concerned/experienced than you, then you don't have much to worry about. Don't be so precious. And if you are going to make someone bleed over it, the only biker being an asshole is you. (unless they drop it, that is..)
Oh, and get a really huge scary-looking bike - NO one will touch that, no matter what. I wouldn't.
Steve
Still stick by the fact that if it ain't yours, don't touch it. I've never seen people hop in and shift someones car if its illegally parked eg: in a disabled car park so why shift someones bike if it ain't parked how or where it should be? It ain't yours, leave it alone. Personally I wouldn't touch anyone elses bike or car unless asked to by the owner. Its called respect, despite the fact that they lack it by parking somewhere they shouldn't have in the first place.
The Stranger
9th October 2008, 08:03
I do this quite often
Yep I do this quite often too because I suck at parking. Just ask anyone who knows me.
Hmmm...once or twice but only if I cant be bothered walking too far.
Personally I dont think it is right to touch anyone elses property without permission be it a bike or anything else......
So by your own admission you suck at parking, you would prefer the owner/manager of the car park/council property etc say fuck you, calls a tow truck, they toss the bike on take it away and store it for you to collect (all at your expense) OR a group of motorcyclists move it carefully to a better position?
Because from the looks of your reply you best be prepared for it.
Maybe others think it's not right to abuse privilege and to park like arseholes on their property. Were it me in charge of a parking facility and some nob was fucking things up I would call a tow truck and tell them to sort it quick smart.
The Stranger
9th October 2008, 08:13
Don't see people hopping in someones car and shifting it, why touch someones bike? :confused:
We used to do this all the time (would happen once a week on some sites) when on building sites in town.
People rock up at 10:00 in the evening park in front of the site not realising that whilst it's not busy now, that work does actually go on there by day. Then they go get pissed and leave thier cars across the site entry and return to find it elsewhere next afternoon.
You have to get a concrete truck in or a load of steel etc. The car just goes any way we see fit, chain it to a truck, strop it to a tower crane, whatever works.
XxKiTtiExX
9th October 2008, 08:16
We used to do this all the time (would happen once a week on some sites) when on building sites in town.
People rock up at 10:00 in the evening park in front of the site not realising that whilst it's not busy now, that work does actually go on there by day. Then they go get pissed and leave thier cars across the site entry and return to find it elsewhere next afternoon.
You have to get a concrete truck in or a load of steel etc. The car just goes any way we see fit, chain it to a truck, strop it to a tower crane, whatever works.
Calling a tow company sounds nice Noel. :shifty:
sunhuntin
9th October 2008, 08:33
some dick parking in a disabled park compared to some dick parking in the middle of the footpath cant really be compared. the dick parking on the footpath could see all bike parking revoked from all bikes. the dick parking in a disabled park will NOT see all car parks revoked from all cars.
if theres a valid reason to move my bike, thats fine. any other reason, then at least tell me so i can come and supervise.
id never move anothers bike by myself, but i have been damn tempted to kick a few scooters over. seriously, one scooter parked smack in the middle of a bike park leaving no room for anyone else is asking for trouble. mostly, though, i park a block away and walk. i did once see a scooter parked on the yellow angled lines by a disabled park once. he was just begging for it to be knocked over by a car door.
i do park on the footpath if im going to be only a few mins, and i make sure im parked as far out of the way as possible. normally theres never any parks outside the place in question, hence the parking on a footpath. i dont see the point in parking 10 mins away to drop off a sheet of paper.
vifferman
9th October 2008, 08:41
Interesting.
It seems the common theme is people don't want others touching their property, with a corollary that if you behave like a real dick and/or there are exceptional circumstances, you risk losing your rights.
I can understand that, and agree with it. I don't like people messing with my stuff, but I 'd rather it was touched/moved than have it damaged due to not being moved. Of course, if it was damaged anyway by being moved, that's another story.
I've moved scooters that were parked "any old how" and preventing others from using a park, and I've picked up bikes that were knocked/blown over. I dunno that I'd move a bike though. The last time I was tempted to move a scooter, it was parked smack dab in the middle of a carpark, and I was *so* tempted to move it, but it was one of those fancier ones that borders on being a bike, so I left it alone and parked elsewhere.
I guess it's that old "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you" thing.
buellbabe
9th October 2008, 11:02
Dont f*ck with someone elses bike.
Park your bike with consideration for other riders.
If you move someones bike (picking it up) leave a note.
What he said.
I always try to park considerately. There is really no excuse for joe public to have to touch my bike but I am constantly astounded at many times I will be sitting having a beer/coffee etc (bike in view) and have to yell out to a complete stranger "get your hands off!". They see the paint and they wanna touch!
Inappropriate pawing is not tolerated.
Tank
9th October 2008, 12:21
I'm +1 for the don't touch my bike (unless its an emergency - making room for an ambulance / firetruck etc).
Having said that - I don't park like an ass anyways.
Upshot is - People have no right to move other peoples 'stuff'.
The people moving it (I'm sure) wouldn't be willing to take the responsibility and financial hit if they were unlucky enough to drop it.
DB says he has no issue if the person is familiar with moving heavy bikes - I'm sure that plenty of people have dropped their own bikes - why couldn't this happen to someone else?
So my questions are:
If you are someone willing to move a bike and you dropped it - would you pay all cost for the damage?
If you are someone thats OK with it being moved (Looking at DB here) and they dropped it - would you expect them to pay for any damaged accidentally done?
Tank
9th October 2008, 12:22
What he said.
I always try to park considerately. There is really no excuse for joe public to have to touch my bike but I am constantly astounded at many times I will be sitting having a beer/coffee etc (bike in view) and have to yell out to a complete stranger "get your hands off!". They see the paint and they wanna touch!
Inappropriate pawing is not tolerated.
Indeed - when I hard the M50 - a number of times Id had to tell people to get off - grrrrr.
Except for one hot asian chick - then I took pics.
Funny - nobody wants their pic on the V-Strom :lol:
madbikeboy
9th October 2008, 12:43
So my questions are:
If you are someone willing to move a bike and you dropped it - would you pay all cost for the damage?
If you are someone thats OK with it being moved (Looking at DB here) and they dropped it - would you expect them to pay for any damaged accidentally done?
That's really the deeper meaning here. Someone moving a sportsbike who drops it - not their insurance, and who has $3-4K to pay for damage fairings. Sorry mate just doesn't cut it. Hence, full circle, back to don't touch my fucking bike.
The Stranger
9th October 2008, 12:52
Except for one hot asian chick - then I took pics.
Lucky bastard - do you realise what how much you could sell that to spankme for?
PirateJafa
9th October 2008, 13:01
Lucky bastard - do you realise what how much you could sell that to spankme for?
Might be worth a get-out-of-pink-hell-free card if you're lucky. ;)
Oh and much "Lol"ing at some of the internet tough guys in this thread.
Tank
9th October 2008, 13:23
Lucky bastard - do you realise what how much you could sell that to spankme for?
Well I do have some infraction points that I wouldn't mind losing.
vifferman
9th October 2008, 13:37
So my questions are:
If you are someone willing to move a bike and you dropped it - would you pay all cost for the damage?
Yes. I'd like to think I would.
I'm a big fan of personal responsibility.
If you are someone thats OK with it being moved (Looking at DB here) and they dropped it - would you expect them to pay for any damaged accidentally done?
Yes.
I'm a big fan of personal responsibility.
Do the crime, pay the time.
HungusMaximist
9th October 2008, 14:03
Even though how much I don't like people touching my bike, if they want to touch it, there's really nothing I could do. Now if they were to move my bike that's another story as I usually have my steering and disc lock on.
I am all for respecting other people's property but however, there's not alot you can do if people want to deliberately move your bike and usually there's a reason and plus, it doesn't happen often.
Now there's also bit of talk about people moving other's people's bike and dropping it. In a ideal world you would fuss up and pay for the damage as that would be the natural thing to do, but really, if nobody saw it, would you?
You might walk away with a dirty conscience or you might not, but look at all the parked cars you see that get their side mirrors smashed off by other cars. Do you see the culprit getting out their car and leaving a note of apolygy note or few quads of cash? The fact of life is, Iam not saying all but most people don't really give a toss unless you catch them redhanded.
Best advice is, don't put your bike at risk in a situation where it can be will moved or touched. And don't be surprised if it does.
MadDuck
9th October 2008, 20:18
So most responses are "touch my bike and die".....when you can afford a real bike maybe you will understand ?
I am gobsmacked by the amount of abuse I got from this post. It seems my sense of humour is just that MINE. People on here need to take some chill pills...sometime really soon!
Waylander
9th October 2008, 20:56
I think its wrong to touch someones bike without asking them first.
Afterall if you see a car parked in a handicaped space or in a place it shouldnt be what would you do?
Break a window or two, slash a couple tyres, Key up the paint job. Side mirrors also make handy targets. Particularly when they park in the handicap spot/bike park/ in front of fire hydrants/ where ever else they are not supposed to park and there are heaps of correct parking spaces for them.
Park smart, park proper or get what you deserve.
Don't see people hopping in someones car and shifting it, why touch someones bike?
I know of one Principal who's car ended up on the roof of the school (care of the football team) because he parked in the handicap spot.
Little Miss Trouble
10th October 2008, 07:35
I am gobsmacked by the amount of abuse I got from this post. It seems my sense of humour is just that MINE. People on here need to take some chill pills...sometime really soon!
Perhaps suggesting the other peoples pride & joy isn't a 'real bike' wasn't such a great idea then?
No hard feelings:grouphug:
MadDuck
10th October 2008, 21:18
Perhaps suggesting the other peoples pride & joy isn't a 'real bike' wasn't such a great idea then?
No hard feelings:grouphug:
Hmmm so every time someone bags the fact that I ride a Harley I should get all upset?....read the threads it happens rather a lot.
I kind of thought that my humour was subtle enough but apparently it wasnt.
Headbanger
10th October 2008, 21:36
Hmmm so every time someone bags the fact that I ride a Harley I should get all upset?....read the threads it happens rather a lot.
I kind of thought that my humour was subtle enough but apparently it wasnt.
Humour needs a sledgehammer approach.
I figure all the pantie wearers just can't handle the rest of the world figuring they are gay due to the bikes they ride.
As an example I know Ducati's have a huge homosexual following, Though I don't know if its because gays buy them, or owning the bike brings on the gayness.
My theory is its the latent gayness within the individual that attracts them to the Ducati in the first place, And then it bubbles to the surface.
PS......GSX owners are wankers.
Muhahahahaha
MadDuck
10th October 2008, 21:40
As an example I know Ducati's have a huge homosexual following,
So does WIMA but I will support a good cause no matter what.
98tls
10th October 2008, 21:41
[QUOTE=Headbanger;1764716]Humour needs a sledgehammer approach.
I figure all the pantie wearers just can't handle the rest of the world figuring they are gay due to the bikes they ride.
As an example I know Ducati's have a huge homosexual following, Though I don't know if its because gays buy them, or owning the bike brings on the gayness.
My theory is its the latent gayness within the individual that attracts them to the Ducati in the first place, And then it bubbles to the surface. Can we exclude bevel drives from that,then again looking back i always thought there was something my old man wanted to say but never got it out,then again he did mince about at times.
xgnr
10th October 2008, 22:03
Afterall if you see a car parked in a handicaped space or in a place it shouldnt be what would you do?
set fire to it?
Askelon
10th October 2008, 22:31
If I was parked like an arsehole,obstucting the path etc then I'd accept my bike being moved. Wouldnt like it and I'd proberly thump the person if I caught them but I'd accept it anyways :p.. In saying that Ive had idiots jump on my bikes in the past just because they could, one psycho lady jumped on my Harley, knocked out the kickstand and dropped the thing. She was damned lucky she could run like the wind while I was picking it up..
End of the day, dont park like an idiot and theres not going to be any problems! And sure as hell dont park on the footpaths downtown anymore cause the wardens will give you extra loving for it.. (Ive talked my way out of a couple of tickets down Franklin Rd before!)
And no, I personally wouldnt move/touch someone elses bike unless its either about to be physically moved in a not too pleasant manner for some reason or if its been knocked over - in which case I'd pick it up as I would expect anyone would do for me.. If all their going to get is a fine etc then shit happens.
Admittedly I have been very tempted to pick up those god damned scooters in town from time to time and stick them just that little bit closer together - there really are some special parkers out there!!
Headbanger
11th October 2008, 07:57
Can we exclude bevel drives from that,then again looking back i always thought there was something my old man wanted to say but never got it out,then again he did mince about at times.
Nothing fruity about your oldboy or the old Ducati's. Awesome bikes. When I win lotto and start my collection I even plan on getting a couple.
Number One
11th October 2008, 08:11
Touch my bike I break your face...simple ;)
Years ago I had my old Spada 250 shifted around in the parking space once - they moved it by holding onto the plate???? Dorks! Of course they ripped it right off. Left a polite note saying terribly sorry about that I couldn't back my car out of the park so thought I'd move your bike to ensure I didn't hit it....COCK!
Dakara
11th October 2008, 09:02
Yea, in that circumstance just leave some angry emo hate letter on the dudes bike tealling him it wil be removed if he leaves it there again. Bike specific signage would also be beneficial (as not every biker is a "Kiwibiker" so it could of just been ignorance).
As for touching other bikes... I've just started riding again and took the bike to work a few days ago in Botany. After work, walking to the bike I see a kid, maybe 10 years old (School Holidays)Sitting on my bike twisting the throttle pretending to ride it while Mum and Dad stood by enjoying the scene! Needless to say I was less than impressed.
madbikeboy
11th October 2008, 09:03
Humour needs a sledgehammer approach.
I figure all the pantie wearers just can't handle the rest of the world figuring they are gay due to the bikes they ride.
As an example I know Ducati's have a huge homosexual following, Though I don't know if its because gays buy them, or owning the bike brings on the gayness.
My theory is its the latent gayness within the individual that attracts them to the Ducati in the first place, And then it bubbles to the surface.
PS......GSX owners are wankers.
Muhahahahaha
GSXR owners are gentlemen and scholars, and we are also blessed with testicles the size of grapefruit. And that's fruity as it gets. But, from what I can see, the Ducati thing has merit... :yes:
Katman
11th October 2008, 09:30
Yes. I'd like to think I would.
I'm a big fan of personal responsibility.
:love:
:msn-wink:
Katman
11th October 2008, 09:34
PS......GSX owners are wankers.
I'm pleased to see you're still dreaming about me.
:msn-wink:
Number One
11th October 2008, 09:39
My theory is its the latent gayness within the individual that attracts them to the Ducati in the first place, And then it bubbles to the surface.
LMAO no bling left but I enjoyed that...latent gayness bubbling up :rofl:
Thanks for that giggle :sunny:
Conquiztador
11th October 2008, 21:13
I have moved in circles where touching/sitting on someone else's bike was an offence that got you beaten. Badly!
And I fully support that view.
Would you open the door of someones car and jump in for a test sit down?
Headbanger
11th October 2008, 21:17
Funny that, I have moved in circles where it would get you stabbed without notice. But such people don't blow smoke up their own arses on public forums.
EJK
11th October 2008, 22:09
No fuckers touch my bike...
Beside, I (always) lock my bike tightly to a pole so unless you can move a mountain, dare try....
motorbyclist
13th October 2008, 01:38
IF i parked like an asshat, between having my bike towed or having it moved, i'd have it moved
and of course, in this case having it towed would open the doors to have other bikes towed, which in the context of the situation at uni is a Bad Thing
also, i am somewhat experienced in moving bikes, AND i got 5 guys to help, some of which were friends of the owner of the bike
so from my point of view, there was sufficient notice, due care taken and it was a better result than having some towie fuck the bike over and charge him for it
BUT, if someone that i do not know is fucking with my bike for no good reason, in a way that has potential to cause harm, they've got about 5 seconds to either sufficiently explain, leave very quickly, or show some boobs. ironically, running will probably mean i'll chase you in case you've nicked something off it.
If you are someone willing to move a bike and you dropped it - would you pay all cost for the damage?
If you are someone thats OK with it being moved (Looking at DB here) and they dropped it - would you expect them to pay for any damaged accidentally done?
yes - the one time i backed my car into a parked holden i actually went door knocking to find the owner. cost me $1500 but glad i got it sorted instead of just driving off. would've been nice of them to not be dicks about it though; my uncle panelbeater quoted the job at half what their panelbeater did. 1500 was a lot of money for a 16 year old :(
and yes - i'm a big fan of the "do unto others..." mentality
Yea, in that circumstance just leave some angry emo hate letter on the dudes bike tealling him it wil be removed if he leaves it there again. Bike specific signage would also be beneficial (as not every biker is a "Kiwibiker" so it could of just been ignorance).
we told him in person!
As for touching other bikes... I've just started riding again and took the bike to work a few days ago in Botany. After work, walking to the bike I see a kid, maybe 10 years old (School Holidays)Sitting on my bike twisting the throttle pretending to ride it while Mum and Dad stood by enjoying the scene! Needless to say I was less than impressed.
that really works me up too - parents letting their kids run about without owning up for any of the damage caused
i'm hoping having an alarm on my bike will discourage such events
xwhatsit
13th October 2008, 10:15
I've long thought the SMC attitude w.r.t. moving bikes is a bit ghey.
I know I own a big piece of dog turd, but I'd still appreciate somebody leaving a note or sending me a txt before we start moving my bike. And I reckon there were more, er, `diplomatic' channels we could've used on that GT250R retard first, despite him being thick as pig shit.
sunhuntin
13th October 2008, 10:27
Yea, in that circumstance just leave some angry emo hate letter on the dudes bike tealling him it wil be removed if he leaves it there again. Bike specific signage would also be beneficial (as not every biker is a "Kiwibiker" so it could of just been ignorance).
As for touching other bikes... I've just started riding again and took the bike to work a few days ago in Botany. After work, walking to the bike I see a kid, maybe 10 years old (School Holidays)Sitting on my bike twisting the throttle pretending to ride it while Mum and Dad stood by enjoying the scene! Needless to say I was less than impressed.
ive never actually caught anyone doing that. odd, cos kids seem to love my bike. you stick my bike between a couple of sprotsbikes, and they almost always head towards mine. lol. course, maybe exposed exhaust pipes have something to do with kids not sitting.
PirateJafa
13th October 2008, 10:30
ive never actually caught anyone doing that. odd, cos kids seem to love my bike. you stick my bike between a couple of sprotsbikes, and they almost always head towards mine. lol. course, maybe exposed exhaust pipes have something to do with kids not sitting.
Or more likely because they think they have a better chance of reaching the seat height on it?
Just applying logic here, nevermind me... :dodge:
sunhuntin
13th October 2008, 11:05
yeh, but if thats the case, wouldnt i have caught someone sitting on it?
FROSTY
13th October 2008, 11:10
Park like a twat expect trouple. Simple really.
If my bike was laying on its side spirting life blood then it'd be really nice if someone would pick it up.
motorbyclist
13th October 2008, 12:49
I reckon there were more, er, `diplomatic' channels we could've used on that GT250R retard first, despite him being thick as pig shit.
continue.... a better way is always welcome
doesn't get much more diplomatic than kindly explaining the issue in person
Badjelly
13th October 2008, 14:34
Afterall if you see a car parked in a handicaped space or in a place it shouldnt be what would you do?
The Mitre 10 Mega bloke has the right idea.
CookMySock
13th October 2008, 14:57
If you are someone willing to move a bike and you dropped it - would you pay all cost for the damage?Nup.
If you are someone thats OK with it being moved (Looking at DB here) and they dropped it - would you expect them to pay for any damaged accidentally done?Sure.
Steve
slimjim
13th October 2008, 16:25
personally...you would need more than five fuck-asses to move my bike...cause the nature of that act is of same as touching part of my family...and i stand an deliver..no matter ...too old school in hate not too..
if it was backed into..or knocked over..hell aren't close enough to...if a bikes on its side while coming across one..nope..not mine..not touch..
motorbyclist
13th October 2008, 16:44
so you'd rather be fined/clamped/towed - all of which include bike touching, a hefty bill, and in the latter case no ride home and probably damage to the bike?
vgcspares
14th October 2008, 14:06
Once took the keys left in a bike parked in the street to the office reception immediately next to it, left a note on the bike and took the time to hunt out the owner - he got really pissed about it. But then he was a twat according to others working in the same office....so I guess some care is needed when doing anything to/for someone you don't know.
OutForADuck
14th October 2008, 14:49
Park like a twat expect trouple. Simple really.
If my bike was laying on its side spirting life blood then it'd be really nice if someone would pick it up.
Someone, trying my bike for "fit" dropped it off the stand and did a runner a couple of years ago. Another person seeing this picked it back up and promptly let me know.
Its not about touching its about respect and care for other peoples toys :crybaby:
One for a beating, the other for a beer in this case :done:
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