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FROSTY
14th October 2008, 19:52
I'm not really up with the play on Cudura gear pricing so Im happy to be shot down in flames here.
I stopped into a nifty lil shop in onehunga to buy a LT50 wheel today.
($55 by the way for tyre and rim --bloody cheap I thought.)

Whilst in there I noticed a range of cudura jackets and pants
The Jackets seemed to have all the right padding and were in a range of colors. They were only $175 each.
The pants again looked to be all good and were priced to a similar scale.
The place was 39b Neilson st Onehunga -thats the bit just close to the mangere bridge motorway.
Might be worth checking out

Madness
14th October 2008, 19:58
They have quite a few lines on Tardme (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=1972570) too...

FROSTY
16th October 2008, 08:38
this might be good info for newbe riders I think

portokiwi
16th October 2008, 09:19
Thats where I got my helmets from.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Helmets/auction-182717781.htm
got mine for $120.00 each. Had no problems. They were just starting to bring in leather jackets.
Good wee shop.

vifferman
16th October 2008, 09:23
WTF is "cudura"? Sounds like summat nasty a cow would cough up...

Katman
16th October 2008, 09:29
Thats where I got my helmets from.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Helmets/auction-182717781.htm
got mine for $120.00 each. Had no problems.

Do they even have a brand name???

I have to wonder why anyone would put their head inside a helmet that even the manufacturer wasn't prepared to own up to.

QMOTO
16th October 2008, 09:44
Yeah great price, if you want to buy low price expect Low quality, unless there are new econonomical laws im unaware of.
Yet Another Trader on TM with questionable quality claims, two points, Cordura wont be genuine, CE armour will be stamped with CE yes, but genuine and certified I highly doubt it. Spend 30% more and get quality or dont bother people.

Katman
16th October 2008, 10:23
In fact, taking a closer look at their Trademe listings, they are advertising, as DOT approved, helmets that I would be highly surprised if they were legal for use on the road in NZ.

QMOTO
16th October 2008, 11:28
In fact, taking a closer look at their Trademe listings, they are advertising, as DOT approved, helmets that I would be highly surprised if they were legal for use on the road in NZ.


Sad thing is you can buy any product with whatever you want on it, I can buy unbranded snell helmets for USD$40 each, ya reckon they are snell, made in china?

If you want cheap you get cheap, if it sounds to good to be true it is.

Personally Im completely not interested in promoting this sought of product as I have a reputation and company brand to protect, its only those that dont who will sell such things, if you buy good luck to you

Katman
16th October 2008, 11:47
this might be good info for newbe riders I think

And then again - maybe not.

portokiwi
16th October 2008, 13:26
I am happy with mine. I have seen other KBers wearing them as well.
HLD Helmets.
:laugh:

screamer
16th October 2008, 16:18
My partner and i where in cycletreads on the weekend and they had leather suits in there for $399. i thought they where are a really good price as well. I looked at getting one for my partner.

portokiwi
16th October 2008, 16:35
Just a question? quisi where do you get your jackets pants and other kit from?
where are they made?
I brought my leather jackets in Afghanistan, one was made there and the other from Pakistan. they are heavy duty jackets very well made. yes i paid U.S$40.00 each. I wouldnt buy the helmets from there as they were very flimsy.
Insted of shooting down the shops trying to make a living. try giving them a fair go.
If they are selling defective kit yes it needs to be reported to the LSTA. Are you positive they are selling 2nd rate kit that will not pass inspections?
i like the gear I have brought... I am sorry i havent brought your gear.
i have heard KBers saying how good your gear is.... GREAT. It do's look good.
But give others a chance. it is like you are the name brand for KB. (bit like Addias, puma, nike ect).
If you or anyone else have problems with the kit, why dont you get it checked out insted of telling KB riders its crap first.
Sorry if I have upset anyone.
:doh: That will get me a few bad reps.

Maha
16th October 2008, 16:36
My partner and i where in cycletreads on the weekend and they had leather suits in there for $399. i thought they where are a really good price as well. I looked at getting one for my partner.

Exactly...some people do know a bargin when they see it.
Chuck a lable on something and suddenly its worth more (only to the seller)

Maha
16th October 2008, 16:39
Insted of shooting down the shops trying to make a living. try giving them a fair go.


:laugh: Like thats going to happen........:killingme

portokiwi
16th October 2008, 16:47
:o Thanks mate

Quasievil
16th October 2008, 16:59
Just a question? quisi where do you get your jackets pants and other kit from?
where are they made?
I brought my leather jackets in Afghanistan, one was made there and the other from Pakistan. they are heavy duty jackets very well made. yes i paid U.S$40.00 each. I wouldnt buy the helmets from there as they were very flimsy.
Insted of shooting down the shops trying to make a living. try giving them a fair go.
If they are selling defective kit yes it needs to be reported to the LSTA. Are you positive they are selling 2nd rate kit that will not pass inspections?
i like the gear I have brought... I am sorry i havent brought your gear.
i have heard KBers saying how good your gear is.... GREAT. It do's look good.
But give others a chance. it is like you are the name brand for KB. (bit like Addias, puma, nike ect).
If you or anyone else have problems with the kit, why dont you get it checked out insted of telling KB riders its crap first.
Sorry if I have upset anyone.
:doh: That will get me a few bad reps.

ummm I never said they or it or whatever is crap, I have however pointed out that if you pay cheap the general rule of thumb is you get cheap, thats a rule you can pply to fairly much anything Im afraid.
It is irrelevant where I get my products made, what is relevant is how much time and effort I/we spend in getting the products right.
I have a new Technic one piece and gloves sitting on my kitchen table (which I collected from Whites for a mate racing with me this weekend) they are made in Veitnam, I know Alpinestar get alot of prodcut made in Bosnia, I know of many brands made in weird arse countries, which is fine, its down to how much effort that goes into the development.
We invest shitloads of money and time into this area, not only in travel costs but in many other areas to I can assure you
Im glad you are happy with your gear, everyone should be, absolutely.
The only thing I dislike about the market is the general B.S that is rife within it, particulary within the budget end and some TM sellers.

For example, there is a TM seller claiming actual retail for a race suit is $1995 yet sells them buy now for $395,( they arent sold in retail outlets anywhere btw) its labelled as a "professional racer suit" FFS it looks like a flimsey rag and is constructed poorly, minimal stitching (double only) with what looks like cotton (not to mention no one races in them)

Another example is the grade of leather used, I was approached by a guy at Taupo recently who wanted to show me his Jacket he got from TM, it cost him $240, the Jacket was very very thin, I had a suspicion it wasnt actually leather at all, but reconstituted leather, it was garbage yet sold as a racers jacket. I didnt say anything to him (he liked it) but mate if and when he crashes this thing will fall apart instantly.

I know for an absolute fact claims are made which are completely false, and as I say regualry you buy cheap you get cheap, real quality components actually do cost actual money which goes into cost, Im not trying to be a smart arse here mate (seriously) but I have been in this business for about 9 years (5 with QUASiMOTO and 4 as marketing manager for nationwide) I like to think I know my shit (as it where)

The only message from me is be careful what you buy youre person may actually have to rely on it at some stage, and be cautious with the claims made against the items.

If you find a bargin, great we all love them, but take care first.

So mate no red rep from me.

Im done I think ?

Quasievil
16th October 2008, 17:06
:laugh: Like thats going to happen........:killingme

I might import some thailand Carpet layers and bring them to Warkworth and promote 1 mm thick lino layed for $20 ? what would you say then Mr Maha ? will you give them a fair go ? or would you have some fact based comments to mention on www.Layersareus.co.nz (http://www.Layersareus.co.nz)
this is my lively hood and Im reacting to it well I feel.

Headbanger
16th October 2008, 17:10
Just because I had to look it up...

Bonded leather, or reconstituted leather, is an artificial material composed of 80% to 100% leather fibers (often waste scraps from leather tanneries or leather workshops). It consists of collagen fibers obtained from macerated hide pieces bonded together with latex binders constructed into a fibrous mat to create a look and feel similar or sometimes identical to that of genuine leather but at a fraction of the cost. Depending on the quality a man-made pattern is usually discernible as a "grain-like" look.

Examples of products that are most commonly constructed with bonded leather are: bibles, diaries, art books, desk accessories, hymnals, bags, belts, chairs, and sofas.

There are manufacturers who call their chemical treated leather, bonded leather.

Maha
16th October 2008, 17:13
I might import some thailand Carpet layers and bring them to Warkworth and promote 1 mm thick lino layed for $20 ? what would you say then Mr Maha ? will you give them a fair go ? or would you have some fact based comments to mention on www.Layersareus.co.nz (http://www.Layersareus.co.nz)
this is my lively hood and Im reacting to it well I feel.

What I said is a good thing. (granted, doesn't come across like that)
You stand by your product and thats to be commended. Believing in and promoting your goods/services is paramount in any successful business. You have a successful business and a good product. So do alot of others.

portokiwi
16th October 2008, 17:14
:msn-wink:Thanks mate for your answer. Yes you are right that some of the kit on trade me is crap.... but not all. thats what we have to respect.
i know your gear is good..... i have :drool: over your leather trou. I made a promise to myself that Mrs portokiwi will be getting me some for Christmas lol.

NighthawkNZ
16th October 2008, 17:17
That does sound a bit cheap to me... I paid $300-$400 for me jacket and abot the same for my trou :shit: but the are brand I have herd of before

portokiwi
16th October 2008, 17:26
That does sound a bit cheap to me... I paid $300-$400 for me jacket and abot the same for my trou :shit: but the are brand I have herd of before
Mate over there if you want a snow lepoard jacket they will even leave the head on to show its real. Due to regulations and principle I did not buy any endangered leathers. They make blankets, rugs, you name it. they will do it if you offer them a good price.
You can check them making it as well.
i found the carpets the hardest to tell if real wool and silk was used. or accrlic
amazing watching them making them though.:2thumbsup

Quasievil
16th October 2008, 17:27
What I said is a good thing. (granted, doesn't come across like that)
You stand by your product and thats to be commended. Believing in and promoting your goods/services is paramount in any successful business. You have a successful business and a good product. So do alot of others.

(Sorry my post sounded angry to)

Yup there are alot of good business around for sure and Im lucky that my brand reputation on KB is intact even after 73 crashes (I count them ya see)
but its fair to say (hopefully this sounds right) because KB is such a huge community I simply cannot afford to bring in crap, if I did and it failed goodbye Quasimoto, so my rep is very very important. I like to think though I give back to the community as well (competitions donations sponsorship give aways help etc) but in saying that KB members deserve support from the businesses active within it.

Maha
16th October 2008, 17:36
(Sorry my post sounded angry to)

Yup there are alot of good business around for sure and Im lucky that my brand reputation on KB is intact even after 73 crashes (I count them ya see)
but its fair to say (hopefully this sounds right) because KB is such a huge community I simply cannot afford to bring in crap, if I did and it failed goodbye Quasimoto, so my rep is very very important. I like to think though I give back to the community as well (competitions donations sponsorship give aways help etc) but in saying that KB members deserve support from the businesses active within it.

You do very very well, hell even I know that.
I haven't heard/read any bad thing about your gear (the odd stitch here and there) anyone who owns Quasi gear seems very happy with the product.
Your gear looks smart, and that counts (well to me it does) and those that have seen me in my riding gear will now be saying... Bullshit!!...:whistle:

MadDuck
16th October 2008, 17:41
Your gear looks smart

Agreed but tassles would be even better :innocent:

Mom
16th October 2008, 21:18
Agreed but tassles would be even better :innocent:


I have told you before, to contact Quasi and ask him for the tassle pack for your jacket. He is all about customer service mate, seriously ask him, bet he has a fix for your tassle problem :yes: