WTF? I agree with Tariana Turia

[RantyDave]

She appears to have moved, rather rapidly, to the dark side. When asked if the dole should be scrapped she says:

"Yes. Absolutely. I'm opposed to the dole. I have to be very frank with you - I don't think it is healthy for the spirit of our people, to be getting money for doing nothing."

Shit yes.

"What we need is the government to make work, to get our people back into a strong work ethic."

Their butts off the fucking couch? Surely you jest. Has Tariana forgotten which party she's a member of?

"Mrs Turia said the Maori Party also wanted to set up a community development bank to provide loans to Maori and their small businesses."

Ahhh nope. Racist loans. Sorry, "loans". Normal service has been resumed.

Dave

[NighthawkNZ]

She appears to have moved, rather rapidly, to the dark side. When asked if the dole should be scrapped she says:

"Yes. Absolutely. I'm opposed to the dole. I have to be very frank with you - I don't think it is healthy for the spirit of our people, to be getting money for doing nothing."



They tried years ago... and it ended up costing the government and the taxpayer more... :bash:

There simply wasn't enough work, and or they couldn't create enough extra work...

[MisterD]

I think you'll find that she only equates dole as "money for doing nothing". This doesn't extend to all the maori women on DPB breeding for government $$.

Equate that to the abnormally high representation of maori in child neglect stats if you wish....

[Sparrowhawk]

"Mrs Turia said the Maori Party also wanted to set up a community development bank to provide loans to Maori and their small businesses."

Ahhh nope. Racist loans. Sorry, "loans". Normal service has been resumed.



Already :done: it's called 'kiwibank' :lol:

I agree with the other stuff though! Sounds great!

And no, before the slagging begins, I'm not racist. There's plenty of white trash living on the dole too.

[James Deuce]

Don't worry dude, both the Maori Party and The Green party had me reacting favourably right up until Jeanette and Rod decided they were going to ban private vehicle ownership immediately and Tariana got caught making generalised racist insults about white people.

[imdying]

She's making me proud to be a Maori :D

Hope they leave the DPB alone though, I know I wouldn't wanna be a solo mum with less time available to spend bringing up my kids. Sure that's not how they all roll, but would rather not mess with the ones that treat that job (being a mum) with the attention it deserves.

[CookMySock]

Tariana got caught making generalised racist insults about white people.nah cmon nigger, everyone does that.

It does make you wonder though doesn't it - Lots of land entering into private ownership is getting quietly closed to the public - Mt Tarawera, Mt Putauaki - no vehicles allowed!

Steve

[Forest]

That's the only sensible thing I've ever heard her say.

I can therefore assume that she's been misquoted.

[Virago]

They might replace it with an "indigenous persons allowance"?

[MSTRS]

They might replace it with an "indigenous persons allowance"?

Only if that means one who was born here...

[NighthawkNZ]

They might replace it with an "indigenous persons allowance"?


wahoo I'll become rich...

[JimO]

They might replace it with an "indigenous persons allowance"?

dont you have to be from here to be indigenous, didnt maori get here in a canoe, that makes them immigrants

[magicfairy]

Seems a pretty quick way for her to LOSE a lot of the Maori vote... tell them they will have to go to work to get the dole. Doubt it will fly.

[Headbanger]

Not work for the dole, work for a wage....

Big difference. Big big big difference.

Can you imagine it? Anyone think they would turn up regularly? never mind put in enough effort to make their unnecessary work worthwhile.What a joke. Just another fat gravy train.

It would just be a case of upgrading their dole payments to minimum wage (if not more) and then spending billions of our money to administer the scheme.

I can already see the thousands of law-suits for unfair dismissil...oh wait, They couldn't get fired.



Madness and bullshit.

[Mom]

She's making me proud to be a Maori :D

Hope they leave the DPB alone though, I know I wouldn't wanna be a solo mum with less time available to spend bringing up my kids. Sure that's not how they all roll, but would rather not mess with the ones that treat that job (being a mum) with the attention it deserves.

LOL, I really wish my ex's family would have the balls to acknowledge why there is a distinct all over tan thing happening as throwbacks in the family, then my kids could take advantage of the offers available for Maori :yes:

On the subject of DPB, I agree with you in part, but...

I think it should be structured a bit differently. While a huge number of the recipients are grateful for it, budget wisely and really put the effort into being there for their children, there are far too many that dont.

DPB is easy money for some, and some kids are terribly treated/neglected as a result. At risk of offending the civil libertarians amongst us (me actually being one) I think that the DPB should be paid with WHO guidelines in mind. Something along the lines of shelter and food at the top of the list followed by electricity/gas, clothing and so on till you get to spending money.

A fully disclosed budget should be mandatory, the NZ Budget Service provides this service free for those that dont have the skills to make one. Then there will be clear amounts for what is needed to provide the basic necessities, shelter, food etc and appropriate vouchers/auto deductions from benefit can be made. This will ensure that families have a roof over their heads and food on the table, the money can not be pissed/smoked/snorted/gambled etc away.

I understand how discriminatory it may be to have to produce a voucher instead on cash/eftpos at a supermarket, but rather that than no food being provided. Imagine the security of knowing your rent is paid, your power bill is paid and you have food for your kids.

Before I get shot down in flames here, I would hate the thought of someone officially overseeing my budget, but if that was the only way to support my kids I would do it without question.

I have been in a place with 3 kids on my own earning a pittance, barely managing to make ends meet, to learn that I am about to lose my job. I did enquire about the DPB as a back up if I could not find a job in time...Yeah, Nah! Supermarket shelf stacker would have suited me better, and I probably would have been better off.

OMGoodness, what a spiel...:mellow:

[magicfairy]

Can you imagine it? Anyone think they would turn up regularly? never mind put in enough effort to make their unnecessary work worthwhile.What a joke. Just another fat gravy train.

It would just be a case of upgrading their dole payments to minimum wage (if not more) and then spending billions of our money to administer the scheme.



Yep that is pretty much how it worked in the 80s. TEP and PEP schemes.

Work for the dole ... work for a minimum age... still think it's the concept of having to WORK :shit: that would be a vote loser.

[Headbanger]

I have been in a place with 3 kids on my own earning a pittance, barely managing to make ends meet, to learn that I am about to lose my job. I did enquire about the DPB as a back up if I could not find a job in time...Yeah, Nah! Supermarket shelf stacker would have suited me better, and I probably would have been better off.

OMGoodness, what a spiel...:mellow:

Thats why your a legend......


...even if you can't open the laundry powder.

[Mom]

Thats why your a legend......


...even if you can't open the laundry powder.

hmmmmmmm, a smart arse :yes:

[woodybee]

I hate the Dole Bludgers, but sure I think there should be a helping hand for those desperately in need of help, single families, folks with disabilities. But for farks sake, I have seen it all go wrong in England.

When I was growing up from 19 hundred and 66, there didn't seem to be too many folk on the dole, but as the school system starting changing, "oooo, its all about the taking part" things started to change......bigtime, the competitive side of things dropped out, you were deemed to be a show off if you were great at sports for instance..................from there it went on, I saw those lazy fuckers at school that saw if they couldn't get a job then why should give a fuck as the government would supplement, a huge amount of them would never try to get a job, as a lot of them would supplement their benefit, by working illegally for backhanders.......or stealing of the folk that worked hard for a living.

Those people no matter what nation are the SCUM OF THE EARTH.

There should be a stringent means testing scheme insitu for folk claiming dole.

I can't stand those people that can;t be arsed, I have always worked hard, harder than ever since living here, and any extra money is always so appreciated as I have had to work for it.

I know people that sit on their fat arse doing nothing, no charity work, helping other people, just gleaning off the government or others who work hard.

Everyone should do some sort of work, its good for the heart, the soul, and the social interactment. I only worked part time when I first came here, as it was hard to find a job for the first month or so, but I retrained in computing over here, and started again, and I was used to earning a lot more money...and had the spirit to strive to improve.

Its been the same since gods dog was alive, there are those who work and have the will to go on, and those who don't work and just exist.

Who knows how to deal with it,but its good to see someone try...:done: