Dirty weekend with Katie

[6Chris6]

What a weekend!

Just got home now from a solid weekend of working on my new (project) racebike, the mighty TZR 1 "KT".
Spent nine and a half hours on the road on saturday picking her up from Whakatane. (thanks very much MR for the loan of the van)
Then took her straight round to KK's Where we set about putting her back together as she was stripped to a rolling chassis as you can see in the pictures.
We worked through to 12:30 - 1am just trying to work out the YPVS (yammy power-valve system) linkages and set up, cleaning and fitting the motor, neither of us having worked on one of these type of bikes before.
Time to go home for a few hours sleep, and as KK had generously given me the key to his garage back there in the morningish (Sunday) to try to piece some more of her together (KK at work all day) did quite well on my own although really slow, fitting the throttle assembly (4 times :lol: ), clutch, airfilter, oil tank, wiring loom etc, etc.
KK then arrives back from work at 9:30pm bearing a box of beer :banana: (yes, on his bike!) although we soon realised that this was thirsty work and more refreshments were needed, so we sent his brother down for another box :2thumbsup .
Worked till around 3am, although the more the empty's grew around us the slower we seemed to be, strange that eh.
Decided it might be wise to stay the night, and we were both back into it by 10am.
We've pretty much done all we can do at the moment, just need new chain, plugs, battery, oil change and 2 stroke oil I think. But KK's gonna get one of our KB 2 stroke racer legends to come and have a look/ give advice on run in etc.
This has gotta be one of the most satisfying things I've ever done I think, and I've learnt an absolute shit-load and now know my racebike really well (even though I haven't ridden her, or even tried to start her yet).
Big thanks (again) to KK for all his time and enthusiasm.
BTW this bike so far has cost me $810
And yes, I do realise it's probably not going to be competetive, but I'll be out there learning the ropes and it's not gonna be the bike holding me back for the first season, just the prick on top of it!

This morning:-

Me "Whats fer breakfast, bro?

KK "Erm.........Do ya like chicken sausages, dude?
:lol:

[Hitcher]

A great story, well told. Can't wait for subsequent chapters. That "chicken sausages" concept has real literary potential...

[Sparky Bills]

Top effort dude!
Just one question.....

WHAT THE HELL YOU DRINKING RANFURLY FOR!!!! :crazy:
YOU SCREWED IN THE HEAD!!!!!
Chicken snags and ranfurly aint a good mix!

[Kwaka-Kid]

Id like to point out that i have shares in Tegal allright!! so im helping the cause *cough*

sheeesh thats my brother so dont read into it too much, im so sick of them.

And secondly it was a wicked weekend! i learnt almost as much as Chris on the bike (haha the admition!) the only difference between me and you chris is i pretend to know what im doing and dive in there with self-confidence!... its worked mostly... kinda, on some of the bikes... uh oh.

And thanks in advanced to Fluffy-Cat (now you have to turn up!) for coming around this thursday and looking over our assembly work... and make sure nothing will go wrong when we start her, and also advise us on the best way to run that sucker in (brand new ProX pistons in).

Cheers Chris, that investment has to date given me as much fun as it has you.

P.S Sparky bills and all others: We were drinking Ranfurly because i cant afford to drink anything that costs more then $1 per beer! and i figured because i could only carry a limited amount down my jacket (1 doz) no backpack, that i didnt have enough to share, so go buy Ranfurly and your sure to drink i tyourself despite offering guests! But no... in true westie style chris was tearing at the box after id informed him it was all we had!

[Blakamin]

good shit!!!!! nothing quite like rebuilding something from bits....
also good to see I'm not the only one with a gargre full of cans! :apint:

[6Chris6]

Top effort dude!
Just one question.....

WHAT THE HELL YOU DRINKING RANFURLY FOR!!!! :crazy:
YOU SCREWED IN THE HEAD!!!!!
Chicken snags and ranfurly aint a good mix!

Oh shit , hoped no one would pick that up :o
Should have dropped the resolution (sp) on that piccie :laugh:

[Sparky Bills]

Hey dont get me wrong...
Chicken Sausagers are the biz!!!!!
good to see ya got a beer fridge in the garage anyway!!!

[erik]

Cool Chris and KK, I'll have to come around and have a look at it sometime :)

Is DB Double Brown any better than Lion Red? It's what I've got at the moment 'cause it's cheap (cheaper than Lion Red even, I think).

[Kickaha]

What a weekend!


We worked through to 12:30 - 1am just trying to work out the YPVS (yammy power-valve system) linkages and set up, cleaning and fitting the motor, neither of us having worked on one of these type of bikes before.



They tend to slog out the powervalve linkage between the cylinders,there shouldn't be any slop in it.

Same model bike K14 made his track Debut on

If you can find a 3.5x17 rear rim off the later TZR or FZR,you can run RS125 slicks on them and they go straight in

[6Chris6]

They tend to slog out the powervalve linkage between the cylinders,there shouldn't be any slop in it.

Same model bike K14 made his track Debut on

If you can find a 3.5x17 rear rim off the later TZR or FZR,you can run RS125 slicks on them and they go straight in

Cheers Kickaha

This is the sort of thing we need to know.
BTW it already has 17's on both ends and a 130 rear tyre (up from 120)

[toads]

awesome effort guys, the cool thing is you will know everything there is to know about this bike cos you have had it stripped right down and built it back up again, so should save you heaps of hours tinkering in future. I hope it does well on the track for you, I guess you are both a bit tired now eh!

[XP@]

awesome effort guys, the cool thing is you will know everything there is to know about this bike cos you have had it stripped right down and built it back up again, so should save you heaps of hours tinkering in future. I hope it does well on the track for you, I guess you are both a bit tired now eh!
Fun isn't it!!!
I've almost finished cleaning my CBR, using the "bucket" method (remove everything and clean the parts individually in a bucket) only have the centre stand to go... then a lick of paint and all will be good :)

[ajturbo]

hey great story!!... keep us upto date with it.....
makes me want a job even more..... (na...)

[Kickaha]

Cheers Kickaha

This is the sort of thing we need to know.
BTW it already has 17's on both ends and a 130 rear tyre (up from 120)

Front will be a 2.15x17 but the back wheel will be a 2.5x17 which is on the narrow size for fitting any decent rubber and I would have thought a 130 would be a bit on the wide side for that width rim

as a comparison a RS125 runs a 3.5x17 with a 120 wide tyre

I think they have a 54mm bore so you might even be able to run TZ250GP pistons in them,dunno if it'd make much difference apart from wank value though :niceone:

[k14]

They tend to slog out the powervalve linkage between the cylinders,there shouldn't be any slop in it.

Same model bike K14 made his track Debut on

If you can find a 3.5x17 rear rim off the later TZR or FZR,you can run RS125 slicks on them and they go straight in

damn straight. they are pretty cool bikes, although the ground clearance was pathetic. was scraping the pegs and gear lever on every corner at levels untill it decided to try to buck me off, but i managed to keep it up.

Hope you get it going, will be a cool bike once you get it going.

[Kwaka-Kid]

as a quick update she is coming along well and will be getting battery today :) +levers. and spark plugs

can anybody advise if its preferable for racing to change spark plugs like go up 1 in heat range -NGK? like on my viffer?
std is apparently BR9ES

[scroter]

good work chris and KK. the guy you bought it off works for tony rees and was telling me about you buying it. all he could tell me was hes got a goatie. well chop me off at the knees and call me tripod do you think i could figure it out.
any way good work.

[sAsLEX]

good work chris and KK. the guy you bought it off works for tony rees and was telling me about you buying it. all he could tell me was hes got a goatie. well chop me off at the knees and call me tripod do you think i could figure it out.
any way good work.

since where on the race bike line of talk... is your bike near getting back on the road or track?

[6Chris6]

damn straight. they are pretty cool bikes, although the ground clearance was pathetic. was scraping the pegs and gear lever on every corner at levels untill it decided to try to buck me off, but i managed to keep it up.

Hope you get it going, will be a cool bike once you get it going.

Scraping eh?

Not me bro. Don't go in for any of this leaning business, too scary, bolt upright me, all the way :niceone:

[Kickaha]

damn straight. they are pretty cool bikes, although the ground clearance was pathetic. was scraping the pegs and gear lever on every corner at levels untill it decided to try to buck me off, but i managed to keep it up.

Hope you get it going, will be a cool bike once you get it going.

Ah yeah but the rear shock was rooted and the amount of slop in the shock linkage system had to be seen to be believed

The owner did one lap on it and said it was quite possibly the worst bike he had ever ridden.

[Kwaka-Kid]

good work chris and KK. the guy you bought it off works for tony rees and was telling me about you buying it. all he could tell me was hes got a goatie. well chop me off at the knees and call me tripod do you think i could figure it out.
any way good work.


Reaaaaallllyyy? dig more if you please :)

or just remember the name etc, its a really small world it is and the more contacts we make with the bike the better... but this is very interesting... i know the guy (not personally) but thru connections too.. and infact its all piecing together now... hmm.

kool! well yeah all is well and here we go chris is coming over now for yet another evenings work on his beast (now we got levels, fluids, stff like that!)

[avgas]

i learnt almost as much as Chris on the bike (haha the admition!) the only difference between me and you chris is i pretend to know what im doing and dive in there with self-confidence!... its worked mostly... kinda, on some of the bikes... uh oh.

I use the exact same method. I mean its only motorbikes, not rocket science or anything :killingme
:not: You are pretty smart though mate

[Fluffy Cat]

Ahh looks cool.It's a 2 stroke so it can only be good.Will be round tommorow.Cant wait.See ya

[Kwaka-Kid]

cheers bruno! sounds like we really need your help.

a rather big lack of luck this eveing with both finding out the clutch cable has shat itself (no sweat chris will have one home by tomorrow) and that we may not have drained the gearbox oil fully (and already put half of the expensive stuff in! :( ) but bruno said most 2 smokes chris only carry 400-600ml... our engine casing says 1000 cubic cc's

so who knows?! argh. anyways will work all this out
and can someone tell us if 14T front 45?T rear sprocket is std size? and/or how many links of the 520 std chain was it meant to have? i can get either 116link or 120 link?

[scroter]

since where on the race bike line of talk... is your bike near getting back on the road or track?

not sure at all but probably not in my hands. with a stroke of good luck(and not a single lie) my insurance has accepted the claim and have decided that the bike is uneconomical to repair (11500gs of damage) so im getting paid out and at this stage its looking like im goin to get a fair price. so we will see whats next.

[scroter]

Reaaaaallllyyy? dig more if you please :)

or just remember the name etc, its a really small world it is and the more contacts we make with the bike the better... but this is very interesting... i know the guy (not personally) but thru connections too.. and infact its all piecing together now... hmm.

kool! well yeah all is well and here we go chris is coming over now for yet another evenings work on his beast (now we got levels, fluids, stff like that!)

smart arse.

[jamietzr3ma89]

HI I own two of these bikes(tzr 1KTs) one is for a track bike,I could be well off base here but when I rebuilt my I found that I could not use Pro-X pistons because they are silicon based ,the silicon expands and the pistons pop. will have to wait to I get home to check weather I am right(check me boxes that the pistons came in) Like I say I could be wrong, so dont flame me, will check for me self, but Im sure that I didnt go Pro-X, Regulaters are also no good on this bike, but ya wont need one for track racing as the bike will start and run with out a battery

[Kwaka-Kid]

hey Jamie, good to hear from you mate, all info is much appreciated :)

But yes im sure you can use ProX pistons as i know they have been used many times in the past :) despite the company being netherlands based the fact is the pistons are made in japan and funny enough look just like the TKR ones etc - hmm, prolly made in the same factory from the same machine - you would be surprised!

But awesome cheers, and what do you advise re: reg/rec and battery? i mean.. are you saying to remove the flywheel? or keep it there and run your bike literally with no battery plugged in? (they do as we found out tonight! but very uneven without the correct charge being maintained) currently we have a CTX4B-BS battery (small, scooter like, 2.3Ah) and were just going to use that to keep the current smooth.

all advise is much appreciated, anyway im sure 6chris will post pics of tonights efforts... oh yess... there was ALOT of smoke :)

[FROSTY]

Kk --just a quiet reminder -the TZR has an adjustable oil pump that may have been leaned off quite a long way. Also you MUST use a mineral oil to run the motor in or the rings will never bed in.
Basicly fill the oil tank up with mineral oil and run through one full tank of oil then bleed the system and go to synthetic. You can fit after market reeds and wind the oil pump back a long way.
I told chris about making sure that the power valve is polished to a mirror finish and also to be dead sure all the bearing seals on the powervalve are good.
Because its no longer production based racing you can remove the extra baffles in the expansion chambers. You can really easily adjust the jetting too -theyve got adjustable needles.
-look up the specs for the 1984 TZ250 and you can apply all that tuning detail to the TZR
Ohh and i only used SBS brake pads --those bikes were demon brakers with good pads.