Log in

View Full Version : There is so much bike gear...



savedkiwi1
17th October 2008, 20:33
How does a newbee know.
There is so many brands, styles,leather, non leather, fluro, black. How do you know what to choose?

FJRider
17th October 2008, 20:38
Anything branded YAMAHA has to be good...

tate35
17th October 2008, 20:40
As a fellow newbie myself...i think they same thing, but I personally think it's personal choice. Good luck I am still hunting myself :)

Katman
17th October 2008, 20:57
How does a newbee know.



A newbie goes in to lots of places and tries lots of things on.

PirateJafa
17th October 2008, 20:59
How does a newbee know.
There is so many brands, styles,leather, non leather, fluro, black. How do you know what to choose?

Stay away from Quasimoto if you want something that'll last.

FJRider
17th October 2008, 21:03
Stay away from Quasimoto if you want something that'll last.

You still on his ignore list... ???

Manxman
17th October 2008, 21:06
A newbie goes in to lots of places and tries lots of things on.

...and asks the experts what is best, rather than what looks best.

PirateJafa
17th October 2008, 21:15
You still on his ignore list... ???

Meh, I say it how I see it. I always have and I always will.

If his gear starts falling apart after four months with nothing more than a occasional dousing of rainwater, and one encounter with mud, then it's hardly a investment in decent gear, or something that would reassure me that it would provide any level of protection in a actual crash.

Now where's my thong...

Katman
17th October 2008, 21:18
...and asks the experts what is best, rather than what looks best.

.......and remembers that those 'experts' are just trying to sell them what they already have in the shop.

The majority of bike shops are notoriously lazy - don't be afraid to ask them to go the extra mile if they expect you to hand over your hard-earned.

FJRider
17th October 2008, 21:19
...and asks the experts what is best, rather than what looks best.

As bike gear is usually personal taste, and requirements... at best, we can only say what works for us...or didn't.

The Stranger
17th October 2008, 21:28
Meh, I say it how I see it. I always have and I always will.

If his gear starts falling apart after four months with nothing more than a occasional dousing of rainwater, and one encounter with mud, then it's hardly a investment in decent gear, or something that would reassure me that it would provide any level of protection in a actual crash.

Now where's my thong...


What did you have that fell apart?

Grub
17th October 2008, 21:29
I'm guessing that you actually wanted a sensible answer, so I'll try. I think the main thing to consider is armour protection. That seems to mean that the more expensive the better but watch out for brand label premiums. Certified armour is the bees knees. Discuss with teh bike shop and maybe ask to see the certs if you're not sure.

Leather: Good for protecting your skin sliding down the road (if you plan on repeatedly doing that). Reuseable. Not waterproof so you'll need a rainsuit as well. Can be damned cold too unless you have other wind and warmth protection. Some leathers don't have a lot of armour if they're cheap.

Cordura: Waterproof and warm. Will protect you for a one-time slide but will need patching after a minor one. That's not as bad as it sounds though because your helmet is a one-time use after a bin too. Cordura is the most practical all-round gear so is probably the most cost-effective.

Boots: The thickest, strongest boots with the strongest ankle support that you can afford is the way to go. They also have to fit well and no be able to be pulled off your foot in an accident. Road boots are all supposed to be waterproof so after that it comes down to fit, safety and longevity

We (Nasty and I) have purchased some MotoLine gear from ANZA in Palmy that was cheaper than the brand name stuff. It has given us brilliant service. I've ridden 800km in near-zero temps and been warm. It has good armour, lots of layers and seals up to keep the water out. We purchased Rev-It pants from teh same place. It's heavily armoured waterproof and warm as well.

It's not to say these are the brands to buy, just that there is good gear to be had at a fair price. We have bought cheap on Trademe in the past and got what we paid for. We got rid of it, paid a bit more and got very good gear.

You'll get as many opinions on gear here as there is bottoms on bike seats, just take your time and keep asking questions. Good luck, see how you get on.

Lurch
17th October 2008, 21:56
I just recently went through the lengthy process of choosing and buying a full set of gear and I don't envy you.

I ended up with buying Strada 'Giro' cordura jacket and pants from TSS in lower hutt. They are cheap enough at 250 for the jacket and 200 for the pants and yet in my opinion seem to be well made and are comfortable, warm and dry.

I picked a helmet from Wellington Motorcycles - a HJC CS-12N and it was very reasonably priced.

I have just recently received a pair of boots from 1Tonne and am pretty happy with them, good service too.

Quasievil
24th October 2008, 22:44
Meh, I say it how I see it. I always have and I always will.

If his gear starts falling apart after four months with nothing more than a occasional dousing of rainwater, and one encounter with mud, then it's hardly a investment in decent gear, or something that would reassure me that it would provide any level of protection in a actual crash.

Now where's my thong...

As discused if you have 5 individual rips in your Denium Kevlar Jeans you need to send them back so we can inspect them and discuss the options, coming onto KB and suggesting poor quality about our QUASiMOTO gear in general without us even seeing the jeans is reflective only on your maturity.
but good work on a slander campaign perhaps you should be in politic's ?

Jeaves
24th October 2008, 23:16
http://www.motoretail.co.nz/product.cfm?ID=4552

http://www.motoretail.co.nz/product.cfm?ID=4233

Had this gear from day one , very happy with the quality which has also proven its protection. Liner in the pants started tearing a few years down the track but im still wearing em. The gear is comfy and fits well. If your thin (60-65kg) but tall the size's are a bit out - m too small, short arms. L slightly to big but arm length just right.

Waterprotection: Light rain and a short heavy bursts no probs :niceone: , however sustained medium/heavy rain you will get wet to your skin in these areas - arms,crotch,legs and also the outer pockets.

cs363
24th October 2008, 23:31
Just for once it would be nice to see a post on gear that didn't have any brand bagging or implied premiums for some labels etc. (many of us have been guilty of this, including myself - often it's unintentioned and just the way things can appear in print - not always what the poster intended)

Some brands may have some sort of label premium built in though if they are established it's hard to see that people would keep buying gear that is obviously no better than another brand but has some flashy label, that simply does not make sense. This has been discussed at length and is still dragging on elsewhere.

Likewise PirateJaffa I think we are all well aware of your opinion of Quasi's gear, maybe it's time to let that rest and just vote with your wallet elsewhere. he seems to have plenty of support for his product from a large number of others on this forum, so again it can't be too bad. I can only assume there has been some miscommunication on one or other side of your case that leads you to the point that you are at now? From what I gather (I may well be wrong) you don't seem to have actually returned the faulty pants to him, maybe you should give him the chance to put things right - if you still get no joy then the disputes tribunal is a better place to sort your issue out IMHO. (Hey, if I've got this wrong please put me right)
I think many people seem to lose sight of some basic facts - all gear regardless of brand is prone to faults whether they be manufacturing or material faults - it happens, period. When this happens its the making it right that really shows the companys involved (I'm including retailer back through to manufacturer here, no matter how many hands it may or may not pass through).
In my experience (over 25 years in the motorcycle industry, plus a good wedge in the car industry) often the people that make the most noise are guilty of either damaging their own gear and trying to lodge blame elsewhere or they simply haven't handled the warranty procedure properly - the very first step of which is to give the shop/wholesaler/manufacturer the chance to remedy the situation. If dealing with a retailer and getting no joy then it's well worth contacting the next part of the supply chain (in order) as often a retailer will let you down and not even contact the wholesaler, assuming for themselves that there isn't a problem.
You'd be surprised at how many items get returned to shops with the statement 'I've only used these twice' or similar, when it's patently obvious that the goods in question have been thrashed within an inch of their life over a considerably longer period. Also, the amount of stuff that is returned that has obviously been damaged by the user - in this case a little honesty goes a long way, often the guy that admits to doing something silly that's damaged his 1 day old item is surprised to find how helpful a shop/wholesaler can be - after all noone wants to lose a customer, and most people tend to look at the bigger picture.
Some people that say they've had X problem and taken so and so to court or some such story often haven't at all, this is the internet after all so everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt - including this post!

These are generalisations not intended to get at anybody in particular, hopefully therse some info in here that might be of use to someone.

The best advice IMO is to get out and try some different products on, find a few you like the feel and fit of, plus of course the features etc and then ask people that you see using that gear for their opinions.
On the whole Grub's advice is good - excluding of course any brand references. After all you can't say in one breath to stay away from brand name stuff and then a short time later in the same post start quoting brand names like Motoline and Rev-It are both brand names exactly like Quasi's gear, Spidi, Spyke, Ixon, Alpinestars, Dainese, Icon, Shift and a heap of others.

PirateJafa
25th October 2008, 01:54
As discused if you have 5 individual rips in your Denium Kevlar Jeans you need to send them back so we can inspect them and discuss the options, coming onto KB and suggesting poor quality about our QUASiMOTO gear in general without us even seeing the jeans is reflective only on your maturity.
but good work on a slander campaign perhaps you should be in politic's ?

I've even previously offered to ride down and drop them off at your house... make up your mind. :slap:

paulmac
25th October 2008, 06:04
See the strada jacket and pants in the on line trading forum !! Worn once and as cheap as chips !!

ynot slow
25th October 2008, 07:01
Bought Neo cordura pants and jacket,very warm and off hand $495 or so,have Quasi as well in leather brilliant.Boots I got from Lifestyle Imports in Franklin,not the brand fancy but comfy,waterproof to an extent,comfy and $150,will do me.Go in with no notion on brand,i.e don't buy Alpinestars or similar just on name,they may not fit you as good as no name apparell.Case and point I was very tempted to buy an AGV helmet at half price from a shop,only thing was the fit,wasn't happy with it,so although the cost and brand was great the fit wasn't.

Quasievil
25th October 2008, 09:14
I've even previously offered to ride down and drop them off at your house... make up your mind. :slap:


We have, and again I say send them down via courier for inspection you can email us for the address quasimoto@ihug.co.nz and in the meantime perhaps you can stop slagging the brand of in its entirety due to some rips in your jeans.

PirateJafa
25th October 2008, 11:56
We have, and again I say send them down via courier for inspection you can email us for the address quasimoto@ihug.co.nz and in the meantime perhaps you can stop slagging the brand of in its entirety due to some rips in your jeans.

You might have noted that since you started replying to my PMs again I have refrained from posting... :rolleyes:

NighthawkNZ
25th October 2008, 11:58
Stay away from Quasimoto if you want something that'll last.


Don't be such an ignorant prick...



If his gear starts falling apart after four months with nothing more than a occasional dousing of rainwater, and one encounter with mud, then it's hardly a investment in decent gear, or something that would reassure me that it would provide any level of protection in a actual crash.


I have had a trusted brand of footwear fall apart with in 3 months as well... the next pair lasted 10 years...

Have you sent them back to him so they can be inspected, like he has publicly said over and over again... I'm guessing there is something more to it and you have damaged them yourself... and not normal wear in tear...

naphazoline
25th October 2008, 12:21
you could try a google search of user reviews on stuff you're keen on,that way you're not getting the factory bullshit trying to sell their products.
in the same way,you tube has some reviews as well.

good luck.and take your time deciding,and don't just settle for the cheapest/most convenient stuff.

Pogo2
3rd November 2008, 20:07
and can be so confusing even for the experienced. But having said that after a while you do know what you do and dont like/need.

Just a general question for the masses tho:

Is a jacket (for example) that retails for $1000 or more twice as good as a $500 one? And if there are differances, where do you think those differences are - fit, quality of material, R & D, protection, brand name etc.

I just brought a $399 Rev'it jacket and although I have only worn it on dry days it makes me feel like I've rediscovered biking as it is so comfortable and cool and it appears to have all the right protection levels etc.

Your thoughts?

Gizzit
3rd November 2008, 21:13
..... cut ....

I just brought a $399 Rev'it jacket and although I have only worn it on dry days it makes me feel like I've rediscovered biking as it is so comfortable and cool and it appears to have all the right protection levels etc.

Your thoughts?

I have one .... during winter, even with the liner in, I found it to be a bit cold! Nice jacket apart from that, and comfortable to wear. Not as waterproof as my old and cheaper Spool jacket though, and definitely not as warm. The Rev-it has good armour and leather added to it though. They look good too!
Time for a leather jacket and trou for me now though ...