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jrandom
18th October 2008, 14:34
Sitting here of a sunny Saturday afternoon, sipping my beverage of choice, it strikes me that I almost never find professional bar staff, and certainly never private individuals, who know how to assemble it properly.
So, for posterity, I shall record the relevant information here. Take heed, y'all.
The Gin
Bombay Sapphire. There are other brands of 'gin', to be sure, but they all taste like something a Coronation Street actor pissed against a fence at 3am. Just get the Bombay and be done with it.
The Ice
Yes, you need ice. Gin, unlike peasant drinks such as vodka, does not live in the freezer. Bombay's delicate herbacious flavour cannot survive being reduced to ten below zero - a brief splash over ice cubes is appropriate, superconductor-level refrigeration is not.
The Tonic
If any brand other than Schweppes offers palatable tonic water, I have yet to hear of it. Production of a pussified version of the drink which originated in heathen climes as a means of protecting civilised folk against the ravages of malaria should indeed be entrusted only to the licencing of that bastion of Western civilisation, the Coca-Cola Company.
I, for one, welcome our new quinine-infused corporate overlords.
The Process
G&Ts are best served in tumblers, fatter than the tapering-down ones you normally find in bars. In fact, if you can find tumblers which taper toward the top, all the better.
Fill the glass one-third of the way up with ice cubes.
Cover those ice cubes with Bombay Sapphire, and then pour in a touch more.
You should now be looking at a glass which is about 45% full.
G&Ts are not rum and colas; a G&T is a strong drink, and the purpose of the gin is to soften and change the flavour of the tonic water, and vice versa. A 50-50 mix is not unheard of, although I aim for about 40% gin to 60% tonic.
Fill the glass to the brim with your tonic water, and consume immediately.
Citrus twists
Lemons and limes are for squeezing over salads, not adulterating perfectly good gin with. Leave the fruit in the fruit-bowl, and your taste buds will thank you for not overcomplicating matters.
Food matches
What the fuck you on about, motherfucker? G&Ts don't go with food.
A G&T is the perfect apéritif, stimulating the appetite, cleansing the palate with its astringency, and loosening restraint with its hefty ethanol payload.
Get those G&Ts down your guests' throats before more substantial nourishment is even hinted at, and any social occasion will be a measurably greater success.
And, why, yes... I do believe I will have another one now.
:sunny:
kiwifruit
18th October 2008, 14:38
The only problem with Bombay is you (well, I.. used to) only feel it after about 3/4 of a bottle... then it comes on fast *oh fuck, i'm horribly horribly drunk, and annoying*. Might be different now i'm on the wagon.
:sunny:
Maha
18th October 2008, 14:39
Bombay Sapphire must be the bestest Gin?
I have witnessed Gays ordering it over the Bar...complete with Pineapple juice, is that the done thing???
cs363
18th October 2008, 14:39
I don't think you're mixing them strong enough - that was waaay too coherent! :)
Mmmm....makes me want to have a wee drink myself :soon:
Usarka
18th October 2008, 14:41
Bastard I'm off the piss for a couple of weeks :crazy:
Citrus twists
Lemons and limes are for squeezing over salads, not adulterating perfectly good gin with. Leave the fruit in the fruit-bowl, and your taste buds will thank you for not overcomplicating matters.
or when you have no option but to drink an "inferior" quality g&t..... (except tanquery)...
fireball
18th October 2008, 14:48
if you want a real gin come see me dan you know make the best drinks
even had coktail training to brush up on my skills last week.
Stickchick
18th October 2008, 14:50
if you want a real gin come see me dan you know make the best drinks
even had coktail training to brush up on my skills last week.
He would, but looked what happened last time....6 months loss of license etc etc. :laugh::laugh:
Highlander
18th October 2008, 14:51
G&Ts are not rum and colas; a G&T is a strong drink, and the purpose of the gin is to soften and change the flavour of the tonic water, and vice versa. A 50-50 mix is not unheard of, although I aim for about 40% gin to 60% tonic.
And, why, yes... I do believe I will have another one now.
:sunny:
A 40:60 ratio of Rum:Coke is about what I use. Well for the first one, after that I dispense with the pretence of being civilised and don't bother with the coke (unless it is not for me).
jrandom
18th October 2008, 14:52
if you want a real gin come see me dan you know make the best drinks
You already know you're the only reason I said "almost no professional bar staff..."
:first:
Pussy
18th October 2008, 14:55
Poncy bloody drinkers.... give me a carton of Black Mac or Mac's Gold. Mother's milk!
cs363
18th October 2008, 14:56
Poncy bloody drinkers.... give me a carton of Black Mac or Mac's Gold. Mother's milk!
Oh, so you've stepped up from the Leon Rouge then? :rofl:
Scouse
18th October 2008, 14:57
Fuckin waaaaa Gin and tonic the drink of gentleman faggots. Ah now that I've got that off me Chest I am enjoying a nice CC and Coke over ice. By the way I have just rode what I now consider to be the new King of motor cycles the KTM RC8 farking awsom.
Pussy
18th October 2008, 14:59
Oh, so you've stepped up from the Leon Rouge then? :rofl:
What the fuck is that?? Is it some gay beverage that you consume?
cs363
18th October 2008, 15:01
What the fuck is that?? Is it some gay beverage that you consume?
I thought it was the drink of choice at the NP Labour Party HQ.?!
So what do you and Harry drink then at your social evenings?
Pussy
18th October 2008, 15:04
I thought it was the drink of choice at the NP Labour Party HQ.?!
So what do you and Harry drink then at your social evenings?
Well I wouldn't bloody know what you bent lefties drink, now would I??
tri boy
18th October 2008, 15:14
My old (as in farts dust, old) uncle makes his own, and sells it to the old ducks at his local bowling club for cash, or wrinkly favours. (dirty ol bastard, I'm so proud of him).
Oh yeah, his GP reckons the gin has kept him alive the last dozen years. Has a couple with his breakfast. He also rates Bombay as a good drop, but swears his brew beats it. (I'm not a great fan of it, Gin is a hairdressers drink).
portokiwi
18th October 2008, 15:15
:shit: Wow who would have thought.... Jrandom with class..... Nothing better then a nice G&T, If you are a Rum drinker I go for appletons and coke,
We have been hitting the Malabu and juice a bit too much as well.
Yes mate you are right.... nothing better in my books then Bombay.:Punk:
that was a good report. thanks.
jrandom
18th October 2008, 15:16
I have witnessed Gays ordering it over the Bar...complete with Pineapple juice, is that the done thing???
I dunno; the last homosexual I bought a drink for had Malibu with their pineapple juice.
Everyone present at the time agreed that you can't get much gayer than that.
Scouse
18th October 2008, 15:17
I'm not a great fan of it, Gin is a hairdressers drinkthats why they call it gin and hair tonic
jrandom
18th October 2008, 15:17
Malabu and juice
Jesus, great minds obviously think alike.
Don't forget your rainbow jumpsuit.
Smorg
18th October 2008, 15:17
If you want to be a gin conassuer a bar is not the place to do it. Bartenders have to much other shit to bother about than whether your glass has exactly 5 and a half ice cubes in it before putting in the gin.
I can do a G&T in 15 seconds and its amazing.....if you want perfection a bar is not the place.
cs363
18th October 2008, 15:19
Well I wouldn't bloody know what you bent lefties drink, now would I??
Is that why you haven't fronted with the beer you owe me???!! :laugh:
Anyway, the only time I've been near a Labour party office is to deface their billboards......a bit like someone who I can't name's daughter! :rofl: :rofl: (Good girl isn't she?)
Highlander
18th October 2008, 15:21
Brother in Law has a still.
He got some of the flavourless 40% alc and soaked Crystalised Ginger in it for about 6 months.
Was like Ginger Beer on steroids - fantastic stuff on a sunny afternon!
To keep on topic, his Gin isn't bad either.
Maha
18th October 2008, 15:21
:shit: Wow who would have thought.... Jrandom with class..... Nothing better then a nice G&T, If you are a Rum drinker I go for appletons and coke,
We have been hitting the Malabu and juice a bit too much as well.
Yes mate you are right.... nothing better in my books then Bombay.:Punk:
that was a good report. thanks.
He dosen't have class........he has a Glass.
Appletons!!!......you do remember what happened to me last time I got through a bottle solo???......:thud:
Usarka
18th October 2008, 15:21
The quinine tree grows in the amazon forest and raw it tastes like a P-lab cook just popped his arse boil onto a piece of wood.
Schweppes make it much tastier in water.....
cs363
18th October 2008, 15:22
I'm not a huge fan of G&T's but jrandom is right....it's a bloody good drink on a nice sunny afternoon. Good alternative to a beer if you want something different.
Now malibu.....that even sounds gay... :laugh:
Ocean1
18th October 2008, 15:28
Brother in Law has a still.
He got some of the flavourless 40% alc and soaked Crystalised Ginger in it for about 6 months.
Was like Ginger Beer on steroids - fantastic stuff on a sunny afternon!
To keep on topic, his Gin isn't bad either.
Which is pretty much how most clear alcamahols are made. Unless some other olde fashioned method of manufacture is specified in detail on the label it's been delivered down a 4" pipeline and had artificial flavours added to suit.
cs363
18th October 2008, 15:32
A Polar bear walks into a bar and says to the bartender, "I'll have a gin............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .............................................. and tonic."
The bartender asks, "What's with the big pause?"
The bear says, "I dunno, I've always had them."
MisterD
18th October 2008, 15:36
I'll have the Gin, but stuff tonic water, I'll have Vermouth thanks very much.
James Bond got it wrong twice - Gin, not Vodka and stirred, not shaken. The Martini, the only cocktail a man should ever be seen drinking.:soon:
portokiwi
18th October 2008, 16:19
Appletons!!!......you do remember what happened to me last time I got through a bottle solo???......:lol: And your singing was still good.
Jesus, great minds obviously think alike.
Don't forget your rainbow jumpsuit.
WTF is wrong with Malabu. it great on a warm night. You tosser:lol::buggerd:
jrandom
18th October 2008, 16:19
The Martini, the only cocktail a man should ever be seen drinking...
... if the ingredients for a Manhattan are unobtainable.
cs363
18th October 2008, 16:20
Appletons!!!......you do remember what happened to me last time I got through a bottle solo???......:lol: And your singing was still good.
Jesus, great minds obviously think alike.
Don't forget your rainbow jumpsuit.
WTF is wrong with Malabu. it great on a warm night. You tosser:lol::buggerd:
How the hell do you remember anything after drinking a whole bottle of Appletons???!! :lol:
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 16:24
Bombay Sapphire is the Glenfiddich, or Toyota Camry of gins. Better than many but more a useful starting point and basis of comparison for one's journey of discovery.
Plymouth Gin and Mr De Kuyper's fine beverage ply the palate altogether differently to the stuff in the Blue Bottle. Then there are the delights of the Whitley Neil London Dry Gin, Fresh off the boat from a trip to the USA, with a modest night on the tiles of San Francisco, one discovered a gin made by a local distillery, with a singularly uninspiring name like Distillery 209, if my memory serves me well. The gin was marvellous, and the bar tender did indeed know how to assemble a damned fine G&T. The T being Schweppes, of course.
jrandom
18th October 2008, 16:29
Bombay Sapphire is the Glenfiddich, or Toyota Camry of gins. Better than many but more a useful starting point and basis of comparison for one's journey of discovery.
I'll be down in Wellywood and looking you up roundabout New Year's, then?
:done:
I should also note that I drive a Toyota Camry, and that any comparison of Bombay Sapphire to that pestilential paintstripper known as Glenfiddich must be classified as pure hyperbole.
Pussy
18th October 2008, 16:30
Still nothing wrong with a cardboard box of Chateau St Wogga Wogga 2008
slofox
18th October 2008, 16:30
: If you are a Rum drinker I go for appletons and coke,
Putting ANYTHING with Appleton's is SACRILEGE!!!!!...akin to mixing dry ginger with Springbank........:argh:
cs363
18th October 2008, 16:32
Still nothing wrong with a cardboard box of Chateau St Wogga Wogga 2008
Ah.....so that's what that stuff is you drink....
:sick:
cs363
18th October 2008, 16:32
Putting ANYTHING with Appleton's is SACRILEGE!!!!!...akin to mixing dry ginger with Springbank........:argh:
Have to agree with that..... :)
Pussy
18th October 2008, 16:34
Ah.....so that's what that stuff is you drink....
:sick:
Nup... it's Jet A1. Everyone thinks I drain a litre and a half out of the aeroplane every day to check for water.... NOT!
portokiwi
18th October 2008, 16:35
:o sorry mate I cant drink it stright.
cs363
18th October 2008, 16:36
Nup... it's Jet A1. Everyone thinks I drain a litre and a half out of the aeroplane every day to check for water.... NOT!
fark....no wonder you never fly the bloody thing - it's out of fuel!!! :laugh:
cs363
18th October 2008, 16:37
:o sorry mate I cant drink it stright.
You just need to HTFU!! lol ;)
scumdog
18th October 2008, 16:38
I have ushered Chrissie - Bimbo out the door to procure the correct ingredients for a G&T.
Luckily we already know the recipe - which rather remarkably matches that of jrandoms!!.:niceone::woohoo:
Maha
18th October 2008, 16:38
:o sorry mate I cant drink it stright.
I have seen it done.....Mikkel got through a bottle of Appletons by himself, no coke added, drank straight from the bottle. That wasn't the only shit he was drinking either.
Me on the other hand...I just fall over and fuck my shoulder!
cs363
18th October 2008, 16:41
Just don't order anything fancy if you're in an Aussie pub - you are likely to get a bill like this:http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.phpi/3eb90db7/agooddrink.jpg?cb=1115204527
Goblin
18th October 2008, 16:49
Me on the other hand...I just fall over and fuck my shoulder!Well that would be something to see!:eek:
Maha
18th October 2008, 16:51
Well that would be something to see!:eek:
No one saw it..........:rolleyes:
It was just me, a deck chair, the rain and a slippery deck step that got me, oh and the rum played a weeny part....:shifty:
XxKiTtiExX
18th October 2008, 16:54
I dunno; the last homosexual I bought a drink for had Malibu with their pineapple juice.
Everyone present at the time agreed that you can't get much gayer than that.
I ain't gay for christ sake.
scumdog
18th October 2008, 16:55
No one saw it..........:rolleyes:
It was just me, a deck chair, the rain and a slippery deck step that got me, oh and the rum played a weeny part....:shifty:
So where did you stuck your cock????:confused:
Oh, and C-B is just back with the G&T makings...:soon:
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 16:56
I'll be down in Wellywood and looking you up roundabout New Year's, then?
After Scrivy's race day?
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 16:58
akin to mixing dry ginger with Springbank...
Gahh! Thud.
Goblin
18th October 2008, 17:01
No one saw it..........:rolleyes:
It was just me, a deck chair, the rain and a slippery deck step that got me, oh and the rum played a weeny part....:shifty:Oh so some rum, a deck chair, some rain and a slippery step is all you need to fuck your shoulder. I'd like to see that.:laugh: When's your next party? You two must be due for one soon.
RantyDave
18th October 2008, 17:10
Oh, this is bollocks.
I have a mate who travels to Aussie *lots* for work. We get him to pick up gin on the way back in then use it to make G&T's every day for the next couple of weeks until he has to go again. Suits us all very well.
But the question of brand came up - to Sapphire or no, as it were. We got all scientific: lined up half a dozen different brands of different prices, made identical G&T's with them, double blind tested them, had people mark them, the full monty. Want to know the result? The ones with more alcohol in tasted more of alcohol. And that is *it*. This Bombay Sapphire thing is bullshit and we now pick up the cheapest 45% we can lay our hands on.
I challenge you, Mr Random, to do this halfway scientifically and come up with any other result.
In the meanwhile the correct way to make a G&T is as follows:
Glass. Wide tumbler. Two ice cubes (we have big ice cubes). A fresh slice of lemon - pick your lemons well since this does make a difference (mandarins can be used too for a completely different drink that is not G&T). Pour one shot of gin *over* the lemon. If there is a little dog end of lemon you can squeeze some of the juice in but not too much - G&T with too much lemon in tastes like lemon juice. Add tonic. If it's been sitting in the fridge too long and isn't fizzy anymore, bin it and open another bottle. Drink, and make another - this is the most important step.
Dave
wysper
18th October 2008, 17:34
that pestilential paintstripper known as Glenfiddich
That is right on. I can't believe how many people think that it is a good whisky.
:brick:
Everyone is entitled to my opinion :rofl:
scumdog
18th October 2008, 17:46
That is right on. I can't believe how many people think that it is a good whisky.
:brick:
Everyone is entitled to my opinion :rofl:
And MY opinion is it's OK - not the BEST single-malt but ok...
Usarka
18th October 2008, 17:51
I bought a bottle of glenmorangie through duty free, didnt realise it was the 100proof "astar" version. :doh:
anyway shutup you bastards im trying to remain sober here.
Mom
18th October 2008, 17:54
Sitting here of a sunny Saturday afternoon, sipping my beverage of choice, it strikes me that I almost never find professional bar staff, and certainly never private individuals, who know how to assemble it properly.
So, for posterity, I shall record the relevant information here. Take heed, y'all.
:sunny:
You really are a wanker you know that! :sunny:
My bottom line, all time favourite summer drink is G&T! The blue bottle Gin is with out a doubt the most quaffable of all of them :yes:
The stories I could tell of revolting mixes, no garnish and the like will fill a page or two. I did not think it was summer though, so have not thought, must get the "Mothers Ruin" back in stock. Seems I should look lively here, and get my shit together :lol:
scumdog
18th October 2008, 18:05
CB and I are torture testing the G&T theory....now well into the Bombay Saphire:woohoo::2thumbsup
Skyryder
18th October 2008, 18:25
Bombay Sapphire that muck tasts like it has been distilled in the black hole of Calutta. Sure it comes in flashy bottle.......it needs to be otherwise it would not sell that's how bad it is. I've been a gin and tonic man for nigh on forty years and there is only one decent gin Gordons. Nothing else comes close.
I mix mine with Indian tonic water and a dash of lime and chunks of large ice. None of his crushed ice shit..........gota be a iceberg in my gin. As for food...............gin and tonic great in the kitchen............. knocking up a salad or whatever else you fancy putting on the table:love::soon::love:.
Skyrder
Ixion
18th October 2008, 19:18
Gin and tonic is for middle class bankers.
The only drink for a gentleman is port or claret (depending on your politics) . Single malt whisky is acceptable for medicinal purposes. Whisky. And whisky. Nothing else. Rum may be subsitutued for Naval types.
scumdog
18th October 2008, 19:49
Off topic but who the hell put in the tag 'undeveloped PALLETS'? Hitch will be having a coniption!!!:shit:
And if I can't spell it's the Bomday Saphire...
wysper
18th October 2008, 20:02
And MY opinion is it's OK - not the BEST single-malt but ok...
Have you tried Highland Park? That's a nice one.
slofox
18th October 2008, 20:25
there is only one decent gin Gordons. Nothing else comes close.
Gordons is made...."from local neutral spirit and other imported ingredients"......ie it is made from whey alcohol and has imported botanicals soaked in it to give it gin flavour.
Bombay Sapphire is produced in a 'Carterhead" still. Here ya go.....
"The creation of Bombay Sapphire is truly unique. There are only a few Carterhead stills remaining in the world today and three are exclusive to Bombay Sapphire. Unlike many other gins, which boil their botanicals directly in the spirit to achieve their taste, the 10 botanicals in Bombay Sapphire are held separate from the spirit in a perforated copper basket. The Carterhead stills remove any last impurities in the spirit vapour before it passes up through the basket and in a process known as vapour infusion it is delicately infused with the aromatic flavours of the botanicals. The result is the complex and refined taste which gives Bombay Sapphire its extraordinary mixability."
So there you have it. I'd go with Bombay myself.....
slofox
18th October 2008, 20:26
Off topic but who the hell put in the tag 'undeveloped PALLETS'? Hitch will be having a coniption!!!:shit:
And if I can't spell it's the Bomday Saphire...
PALATES!!!!! dammit! (Hitch ain't alone here......)
slofox
18th October 2008, 20:27
Have you tried Highland Park? That's a nice one.
I still like Springbank myself..........
Pussy
18th October 2008, 20:30
I like that nice purple meths....
cs363
18th October 2008, 20:41
I like that nice purple meths....
You'd like this then, I think you'd look cute in it.... ahem :rofl:
http://uk-tshirts.co.uk/drinking_tshirts/drinking_tshirts_pics/meths.jpg
Pussy
18th October 2008, 20:43
You'd like this then, I think you'd look cute in it.... ahem :rofl:
Bit early for me.... but you go right ahead! :bleh:
McJim
18th October 2008, 20:44
So what's wrong with Gordon's?
scumdog
18th October 2008, 20:50
I like that nice purple meths....
Hmmmm, YOU sound a tad expensive to take out on a date...luckily I'm a guy eh?
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 20:51
Off topic but who the hell put in the tag 'undeveloped PALLETS'? Hitch will be having a coniption!
Probably the same person who thinks they have baffolds (sic) up their exhausts...
cs363
18th October 2008, 20:51
You'd like this then, I think you'd look cute in it.... ahem :rofl:
Bit early for me.... but you go right ahead! :bleh:
Nah....just finishing a bottle of Vicars Choice Merlot, haven't had it before...not a bad drop :)
Besides purples not my colour.... lol
scumdog
18th October 2008, 20:53
Nah....just finishing a bottle of Vicars Choice Merlot, haven't had it before...not a bad drop :)
Besides purples not my colour.... lol
Ooh-kaay, we're now on Yellowtail pinot-noir, not too bad at all.
slofox
18th October 2008, 20:53
Hmmmmmm...single malts...I have upon the shelves, the following selection...
Ardbeg
Arran
Bowmore
Bruichladdich
Bunnahabhain
Glenturret
Cragganmore
Dalwhinnie
Glenmorangie
Highland Park
Lagavulin 16yr old
Laphroaig
Laphroaig Quarter Cask
Lochnagar
Longmorn
Macallan
Milford 15yo
Oban
Scapa
Springbank
Strathisla
Talisker
Tamnavulin
and maybe one or two more I can't remember......:drinknsin
Pussy
18th October 2008, 20:54
Just been sampling some of Mr McCashin's finest, myself! Very nice! :niceone:
cs363
18th October 2008, 20:57
It's almost like a big KB online bar....awwwww :hug:
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 20:59
The KB Serious Burns Unit has had similar discussions before...
Oscar
18th October 2008, 20:59
I still like Springbank myself..........
I like Springbank, Highland Park is my day to day favorite, but have you tried Bowmore Darkest?
Wow!
Do you stock it?
Pussy
18th October 2008, 21:00
The KB Serious Burns Unit has had similar discussions before...
Is that "Burns" as in the poet, or "burns" as in Nicki Lauder?
scumdog
18th October 2008, 21:01
Is that "Burns" as in the poet, or "burns" as in Nicki Lauder?
or the highland burns through the glens??
slofox
18th October 2008, 21:02
I like Springbank, Highland Park is my day to day favorite, but have you tried Bowmore Darkest?
Wow!
Do you stock it?
Nah - only got the 12 yr old just now - which I think is the least of them actually......never tried the darkest......
Ixion
18th October 2008, 21:02
"Burns" as in "dog kennel"
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 21:06
"Burns" as in "dog kennel"
In wood and wild, ye warbling throng,
Your heavy loss deplore;
Now, half extinct your powers of song,
Sweet Echo is no more.
Ye jarring, screeching things around,
Scream your discordant joys;
Now, half your din of tuneless sound
With Echo silent lies.
Pussy
18th October 2008, 21:09
That's some good shit you're on tonight, Hitcher!
pritch
18th October 2008, 21:10
Had a lamb rack and ratatouille for dinner with a nice red to help it on its way.
Dessert was mixed berries with a dash of The Glenlivet and chocolate ice cream. Might not have done for the Duke, but I'm out of kirsch.
Dinner tomorrow night is similar but a recent small windfall suggest all will be accompanied by a little something from Rheims.
Should I need additional justification for such largesse, it's back to work on Monday after three weeks off...
Prosit
Oscar
18th October 2008, 21:11
Nah - only got the 12 yr old just now - which I think is the least of them actually......never tried the darkest......
Get some.
I have ten or eleven Malts in my collection, the Darkest was the last to arrive and was emptied in about two weeks.
Other bottles currently open:
Balvenie Doublewood
Lagavulin 16yo
Highland Park
Scapa (Orkney)
Glen Garioch 21yo (Highland)
Bruichladdich (Islay)
and a coupla Merchany bottled:
Dun Bheagan (Cask Strength 13yo Tamdhu)
Cadenhead (1986 Jura)
Which calls for a drink - the Dun Bheagan, I think...
scumdog
18th October 2008, 21:14
Hmmmmmm...single malts...I have upon the shelves, the following selection...
Ardbeg
Arran
Bowmore
Bruichladdich
Bunnahabhain
Glenturret
Cragganmore
Dalwhinnie
Glenmorangie
Highland Park
Lagavulin 16yr old
Laphroaig
Laphroaig Quarter Cask
Lochnagar
Longmorn
Macallan
Milford 15yo
Oban
Scapa
Springbank
Strathisla
Talisker
Tamnavulin
and maybe one or two more I can't remember......:drinknsin
Frikkin show-off.
Now if I had a memory like yours....
And most of my 10 and 13 year old single-malts have been drunk..
scumdog
18th October 2008, 21:17
Awright, now onto the Yellowtail shiraz, ye-effing ha!!!
And watching AC/DC on C4..hoohaaa!!
cs363
18th October 2008, 21:20
Other bottles currently open
If you've opened them it would be rude not to finish them.... :laugh:
martybabe
18th October 2008, 21:25
Get some.
I have ten or eleven Malts in my collection, the Darkest was the last to arrive and was emptied in about two weeks.
Other bottles currently open:
Balvenie Doublewood
Lagavulin 16yo
Highland Park
Scapa (Orkney)
Glen Garioch 21yo (Highland)
Bruichladdich (Islay)
and a coupla Merchant bottled:
Dun Bheagan (Cask Strength 13yo Tamdhu)
Cadenhead (1986 Jura)
Which calls for a drink - the Dun Bheagan, I think...
Have ya tried this wee fella? It's one of my all time favourites, alas, I'm all out. :mellow: it's like drinking liquid fire. 60% I believe. yum
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 21:25
One has a "secret" cupboard, location known only to a select few, sometimes not even to myself. Lessee wasinit...
Chivas Brothers Strathisla 12
Springbank Campbelltown 15
Bowmore 15
Glenmorrangie 10
Glenmorrange Port Wood Finish
Benriach 10
Old Fettercairn 10
The Glenlivet (French Limousin Oak) 12
The Glenlivet 12
Port Ellen 1979 bottled 1995
The Macallan 12
The Bruichladdich 10
Lagavulin 16
Glenfarclas 15
Talisker 18
Finlaggin 12
Balvenie Single Barrel 15
I'm getting a bit low. My stocks of island and Campbelltown malts aren't quite what they should be. Sigh.
scumdog
18th October 2008, 21:27
Awright, now onto the Yellowtail shiraz, ye-effing ha!!!
And watching AC/DC on C4..hoohaaa!!
Apparently the neighbours and the noise-control dude don't have the same appreciation of AC/DC and henceforth it will not be played at full volume at Chez Scumdog...
jrandom
18th October 2008, 21:31
One has a "secret" cupboard, location known only to a select few.
:love:<tenchars>
Ixion
18th October 2008, 21:32
This thread started out about gentlemen. How did you people get in here?
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 21:35
This thread started out about gentlemen. How did you people get in here?
It's late. The secret cupboard door fell open. The rest is history...
scumdog
18th October 2008, 21:43
It's late. The secret cupboard door fell open. The rest is history...
And the neighbours realise it ain't a secret no more..
Hitcher
18th October 2008, 21:46
The bastards. Burn them!
vifferman
18th October 2008, 21:48
A 40:60 ratio of Rum:Coke is about what I use.
Fuckin waaaaa Gin and tonic the drink of gentleman faggots. Ah now that I've got that off me Chest I am enjoying a nice CC and Coke over ice.
:shit: If you are a Rum drinker I go for appletons and coke,
For fucks sake!
What is worngA with you people! :Pokey:
ANYTHING and coke is like buying a Desmosedicci and putting diesel in the tank!
Actually , it's more like putting 50% industrial waste in the tank. :rolleyes:
Putting ANYTHING with Appleton's is SACRILEGE!!!!!...akin to mixing dry ginger with Springbank........:argh:
Amen, Brudda! Word! And all that!:Punk:
Gin and tonics are for pussies - drink Dutch gin neat (actually, Geneva gin - the Dutch adulterate it by putting a spoonful of sugar in it).
But I'd rather drink Belgian beer, or any decent red wine. I like white wine, but my crappy arthritic joints don't, nor do they like whisky any more, especially the peatier ones. But (however), bourbon seems fine. Shame it's inferior... :(
I dunno... to each his/her own, and all that. But I can't help cringing when people mix anything with coke. Noobs'n'peasants...
Swoop
18th October 2008, 22:20
Bunch of bloody snobs.
What's wrong with brasso strained through a stale loaf of bread ffs?
vifferman
18th October 2008, 22:29
Bunch of bloody snobs.
What's wrong with brasso strained through a stale loaf of bread ffs?
The alcohol content's too low, and it does funny things to amalgam fillings.
scumdog
18th October 2008, 22:30
Bunch of bloody snobs.
What's wrong with brasso strained through a stale loaf of bread ffs?
Frikkin' show-off having bread to spare... think of us po' folk.
munterk6
18th October 2008, 22:33
Bunch of bloody snobs.
What's wrong with brasso strained through a stale loaf of bread ffs?
Nothin'......if ya want to die a slow and horrible death!
make mine a Bombay 47% (dutyfree), mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:love:
scumdog
18th October 2008, 22:48
One has a "secret" cupboard, location known only to a select few, sometimes not even to myself. Lessee wasinit...
Chivas Brothers Strathisla 12
Springbank Campbelltown 15
Bowmore 15
Glenmorrangie 10
Glenmorrange Port Wood Finish
Benriach 10
Old Fettercairn 10
The Glenlivet (French Limousin Oak) 12
The Glenlivet 12
Port Ellen 1979 bottled 1995
The Macallan 12
The Bruichladdich 10
Lagavulin 16
Glenfarclas 15
Talisker 18
Finlaggin 12
Balvenie Single Barrel 15
I'm getting a bit low. My stocks of island and Campbelltown malts aren't quite what they should be. Sigh.
One day..one day.. you ARE going to have the pleasure of my single-malt sipping abilities..
slofox
19th October 2008, 07:16
Frikkin show-off.
Now if I had a memory like yours....
And most of my 10 and 13 year old single-malts have been drunk..
It's OK Scumdog - I have a STORE......they are all for sale, not for me to drink....buggritbuggritbuggrit
Truth of the matter is, due to poor selection of ancestors, I have a condition that precludes the consumption of alcohol by myself.....hard yakka for a fine wine store owner........I have to taste but not consume. Still, it means I am NEVER over the limit to ride...hehehe. So there is some kind of silver lining in there....somewhere
Skyryder
19th October 2008, 10:32
Gordons is made...."from local neutral spirit and other imported ingredients"......ie it is made from whey alcohol and has imported botanicals soaked in it to give it gin flavour.
Bombay Sapphire is produced in a 'Carterhead" still. Here ya go.....
"The creation of Bombay Sapphire is truly unique. There are only a few Carterhead stills remaining in the world today and three are exclusive to Bombay Sapphire. Unlike many other gins, which boil their botanicals directly in the spirit to achieve their taste, the 10 botanicals in Bombay Sapphire are held separate from the spirit in a perforated copper basket. The Carterhead stills remove any last impurities in the spirit vapour before it passes up through the basket and in a process known as vapour infusion it is delicately infused with the aromatic flavours of the botanicals. The result is the complex and refined taste which gives Bombay Sapphire its extraordinary mixability."
So there you have it. I'd go with Bombay myself.....
So you're telling me that a gin that has only been produced by it's distillers since 1987 us superior to a gin that has been produced for two hundred years. Give me a Gordon's........'Yea right.'
But no matter what gin ya like it is a gentlemans tipple.:love:
Skyryder
Skyryder
19th October 2008, 10:41
One has a "secret" cupboard, location known only to a select few, sometimes not even to myself. Lessee wasinit...
Chivas Brothers Strathisla 12
Springbank Campbelltown 15
Bowmore 15
Glenmorrangie 10
Glenmorrange Port Wood Finish
Benriach 10
Old Fettercairn 10
The Glenlivet (French Limousin Oak) 12
The Glenlivet 12
Port Ellen 1979 bottled 1995
The Macallan 12
The Bruichladdich 10
Lagavulin 16
Glenfarclas 15
Talisker 18
Finlaggin 12
Balvenie Single Barrel 15
I'm getting a bit low. My stocks of island and Campbelltown malts aren't quite what they should be. Sigh.
What.................no Dalmore a true nectar of the malts.
http://www.thedalmore.com/site.html
Skyryder
slofox
20th October 2008, 12:35
So you're telling me that a gin that has only been produced by it's distillers since 1987 us superior to a gin that has been produced for two hundred years. Give me a Gordon's........'Yea right.'
But no matter what gin ya like it is a gentlemans tipple.:love:
Skyryder
Actually not quite what I was trying to say Skyrider - original Gordons is as good as ever it was. But what I get to sell here is NZ made and is indeed made as I said above. The exact wording is as follows:
"Bottled in New Zealand under licence using local neutral spirit and other ingredients imported from Great Britain for Diageo Australia Ltd....."
To me, it is like saying that locally 'brewed under licence' Stella or Heineken is the same as the original. It is not the same, it is different. It may well use the original recipe but local conditions do make a difference....same with the gin. The whole process of production is different so the end result is not identical. We have lots of products here that are sold under original labels that are not original product.......I once greatly upset a rep who told me "our heineken is the best heineken in the world!!" Apart from the fact that it either IS or IS NOT heineken and therefore should not vary, I told him I thought it was a JABAB...."What does that mean? he asked..."Just Another Bloody Auckland Beer"........he never came back again for some reason...and he had our Monteiths stand removed a couple of weeks later as well.....!!
When all is said and done however, I sell more Gordons than any other brand of gin, so maybe you have a point!
SPman
20th October 2008, 14:13
Bugger the perfect G&T - (Mst's favourite tipple) - she's still trying to perfect the perfect Gin!
Bloody home distillers......:rolleyes:
I prefer sparkling lemon with my gin!
Trudes
20th October 2008, 18:08
I like Bombay Sapphire, but I like mine with the rim of the glass dipped in lime juice.
However when you're pissed it's so much easier to keep it simple than demanding that the spirit you're about to further drown yourself in is of a particular brand etc, so all I really have to say is, "JD's and gingerale" is pretty easy to slur at anytime.:drool:
Skyryder
20th October 2008, 19:15
Actually not quite what I was trying to say Skyrider - original Gordons is as good as ever it was. But what I get to sell here is NZ made and is indeed made as I said above. The exact wording is as follows:
"Bottled in New Zealand under licence using local neutral spirit and other ingredients imported from Great Britain for Diageo Australia Ltd....."
To me, it is like saying that locally 'brewed under licence' Stella or Heineken is the same as the original. It is not the same, it is different. It may well use the original recipe but local conditions do make a difference....same with the gin. The whole process of production is different so the end result is not identical. We have lots of products here that are sold under original labels that are not original product.......I once greatly upset a rep who told me "our heineken is the best heineken in the world!!" Apart from the fact that it either IS or IS NOT heineken and therefore should not vary, I told him I thought it was a JABAB...."What does that mean? he asked..."Just Another Bloody Auckland Beer"........he never came back again for some reason...and he had our Monteiths stand removed a couple of weeks later as well.....!!
When all is said and done however, I sell more Gordons than any other brand of gin, so maybe you have a point!
If I'm ever up your way I'll get a bottle. Intersting about the Heineken beer.
Sometime back I bought one of their small kegs made in the Netherlands anway another guy had the NZ bottled variety. The difference was realy noticable.
Skyryder
irishlad
20th October 2008, 19:34
Bugger the perfect G&T - (Mst's favourite tipple) - she's still trying to perfect the perfect Gin!
Bloody home distillers......:rolleyes:
I prefer sparkling lemon with my gin!
Some nice picture of myhome distilling setup. Will post when I find cable to connect phone to PC.
Untill then some basic wood spirits:woohoo:
slofox
21st October 2008, 05:42
If I'm ever up your way I'll get a bottle. Intersting about the Heineken beer.
Sometime back I bought one of their small kegs made in the Netherlands anway another guy had the NZ bottled variety. The difference was realy noticable.
Skyryder
Yes, it IS isn't it...same with Stella - I had some genuine from an importer - we compared them side by side - wayyyy different......I get really annoyed when beers go 'local' and are brewed under licence.....specially when dickheaded reps behave like the one I mentioned.....talk about arrogant! Still, he is no longer a rep anyway....funnily enough....
Ms Piggy
21st October 2008, 05:54
The Gin
Bombay Sapphire. There are other brands of 'gin', to be sure, but they all taste like something a Coronation Street actor pissed against a fence at 3am. Just get the Bombay and be done with it.
Okay, I'm probably totally out of whack with the current topic of conversation on this thread but (seeing as Gin is my spirit of choice) I have to disagree with ya Dan that Bombay is "the best" Gin. I find Plymouth is my Gin of choice, as little drier than Bombay. Bombay would be my 2nd choice though.
Carry on.
p.s I do like a bit of lemon in mine. I definitely use Schweppes Indian Tonic Water.
Okey Dokey
21st October 2008, 08:10
May I suggest a drink for all of you g&t drinkers, especially those who love the botanicals of gin, and also those who like high octane levels.
Green chartreuse and tonic.
VERY yummy, lots of spicy herbal flavours. No lemon, please. Schweppes, of course.
As a girly I drink mine at more of a 30/70% mix, but you gentlemen may like a stronger drink. Lovely and refreshing on a hot summer afternoon..
bungbung
21st October 2008, 08:29
Okay, I'm probably totally out of whack with the current topic of conversation on this thread but (seeing as Gin is my spirit of choice) I have to disagree with ya Dan that Bombay is "the best" Gin. I find Plymouth is my Gin of choice, as little drier than Bombay. Bombay would be my 2nd choice though.
Carry on.
p.s I do like a bit of lemon in mine. I definitely use Schweppes Indian Tonic Water.
Tanquery or the expensive version '10'
chrisso
21st October 2008, 13:07
Oh tut tut my dear fellow; A G&T MUST have a slice of lemon.
Well tally ho im off to fight Jerry now -toddle pop:cool:
Actually I prefer Gordons gin...now where are the Messerschmidts again.Rather!!
marioc
21st October 2008, 14:00
May I suggest a drink for all of you g&t drinkers, especially those who love the botanicals of gin, and also those who like high octane levels.
Green chartreuse and tonic.
VERY yummy, lots of spicy herbal flavours. No lemon, please. Schweppes, of course.
As a girly I drink mine at more of a 30/70% mix, but you gentlemen may like a stronger drink. Lovely and refreshing on a hot summer afternoon..
that sounds quite horrid tbh :)
Ms Piggy
21st October 2008, 18:52
Tanquery or the expensive version '10'
Ummmmm, wots Tanquery? I think it's original - it's around $48- a bottle at Regional Wine & Spirits.
It's on the opening page of their website http://plymouthgin.com/
doc
21st October 2008, 19:06
I am enjoying a nice CC and Coke over ice. By the way I have just rode what I now consider to be the new King of motor cycles the KTM RC8 farking awsom.
OH ! So that means you are announcing that the Gay community are now into plastic motorcycles . Chrome is so yesterday. :confused:
slofox
22nd October 2008, 12:55
View of slofox's secret underground distillery......
vifferman
22nd October 2008, 13:24
Yes, it IS isn't it...same with Stella - I had some genuine from an importer - we compared them side by side - wayyyy different......I get really annoyed when beers go 'local' and are brewed under licence.....
+1.
The "local" Heinekin, Stella, Tuborg, etc etc. are just NOT the same as the real brews. They can't be! There are too many subtle differences in ingredients and manufacturing.
I think it (and the taking over of popular boutique breweries) is a cunning plan by the two big brewing companies here to just market Steinlager in hundreds of different-looking bottles with the same contents. Charge a premium for a fancy label on a mass-produced swill.
chrisso
22nd October 2008, 13:27
How much youse paying foe VB over there?
vifferman
22nd October 2008, 13:39
One has a "secret" cupboard, location known only to a select few, sometimes not even to myself. Lessee wasinit...
Chivas Brothers Strathisla 12
Springbank Campbelltown 15
Bowmore 15
Glenmorrangie 10
Glenmorrange Port Wood Finish
Benriach 10
Old Fettercairn 10
The Glenlivet (French Limousin Oak) 12
The Glenlivet 12
Port Ellen 1979 bottled 1995
The Macallan 12
The Bruichladdich 10
Lagavulin 16
Glenfarclas 15
Talisker 18
Finlaggin 12
Balvenie Single Barrel 15
I'm getting a bit low. My stocks of island and Campbelltown malts aren't quite what they should be. Sigh.
I have a few of those, and a couple of what others have mentioned.
Can't drink them though.
Well - I can, but then I suffer for it. :eek:
Luckily the Appleton and absinthe drinking son (no - not together! although he's no doubt considered it...) also has a taste for single malts (in fact, he bought some of them), so he can drink them for me.
Strange that he should be at all discerning, given his predilection for drinking strange and expensive blue cocktails that should be illegal...
Mind you, maybe not. I reckon even the very expensive rums he favours are a bit too like Uhu glue to be safe...
slofox
22nd October 2008, 13:52
How much youse paying foe VB over there?
I sell 6 VB cans for $NZ10.00.....
The Stranger
22nd October 2008, 14:09
I have witnessed Gays ordering it over the Bar...complete with Pineapple juice, is that the done thing???
You should know, you were buying them for everyone.
Maha
22nd October 2008, 14:17
You should know, you were buying them for everyone.
Must thank you for the use of your Gold Card, did you enjoy your Pimms???
Usarka
22nd October 2008, 15:20
+1.
The "local" Heinekin, Stella, Tuborg, etc etc. are just NOT the same as the real brews. They can't be! There are too many subtle differences in ingredients and manufacturing.
I think it (and the taking over of popular boutique breweries) is a cunning plan by the two big brewing companies here to just market Steinlager in hundreds of different-looking bottles with the same contents. Charge a premium for a fancy label on a mass-produced swill.
Stella's alcohol percentage is even different than the real stuff. WTF? :spanking:
bungbung
22nd October 2008, 15:39
Ummmmm, wots Tanquery? I think it's original - it's around $48- a bottle at Regional Wine & Spirits.
It's on the opening page of their website http://plymouthgin.com/
http://www.tanqueray.com/
No. 10: http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=1070
Scouse
22nd October 2008, 15:56
OH ! So that means you are announcing that the Gay community are now into plastic motorcycles . Chrome is so yesterday. :confused:No I believe the Gay community Faggots are still heavily into their MV Augusta Brutale 910R's. Are you still drinking Pimms loaded with assorted fruit, and do you still love your Proctologist?
doc
22nd October 2008, 16:08
No I believe the Gay community Faggots are still heavily into their MV Augusta Brutale 910R's. Are you still drinking Pimms with loaded with assorted fruit and do you still love your Proctologist?
:eek: Well thats not the sort of comment one would expect in a Gentlemans thread like this. Maybe you should look for the 1% threads. :msn-wink:
Mom
22nd October 2008, 16:13
Oh so some rum, a deck chair, some rain and a slippery step is all you need to fuck your shoulder. I'd like to see that.:laugh: When's your next party? You two must be due for one soon.
He went missing mate :yes: He was downstairs clearing up and it had all gone quiet, I went down to see if he was ok and the garage door was open no sign of him. The gate to the back yard was open so I figured he was up there. I came back upstairs and went out the back to look, no sign of him there either :confused: So back down stairs I go to find him standing there, soaking wet, holding his shoulder, looking very sorry for himself. Poor bugger, no one saw it, and there was no one to laugh at him either :lol:
And, indeed it is high time and long overdue that we had a gathering at ours, best we get a planning :niceone:
Gin and tonic is for middle class bankers.
The only drink for a gentleman is port or claret (depending on your politics) . Single malt whisky is acceptable for medicinal purposes. Whisky. And whisky. Nothing else. Rum may be subsitutued for Naval types.
Port? Did you mention Port? Now see that is also a drink for the ladies :yes: Has a very um... interesting side effect on us DAMHIK
I definitely use Schweppes Indian Tonic Water.
G&T is my summer camping drink of choice. One year I was amazed my son kept leaping up to pour me drink after drink?? Very strange behaviour indeed. I had been to the local shop to buy the tonic and all they had was PAMS or some such disgusting excuse for tonic. Being an apprentice pisshead I knew I could never drink my Gin straight so settled for it :sick:
The drinks my son was making tasted disgusting to say the least, but not being a complainer I drank them. This went on for a couple of days until we could get to the liquor supply shop. I buy the replacement bottle of Gin and several Schweppes tonics for good measure. Get back to camp in time for happy hour and pour myself this lovely G&T!
It was bliss...
Then I saw my son laughing...
When I asked what was so funny we said I WAS!
Apparently he had watered my Gin down a few days before hand, the Pams shit tonic disguised the taste of no Gin, I had been sober for days!!!! :eek:
Little shits my kids :yes:
michael
22nd October 2008, 16:14
Nice description of how to make a GnT, you must be goin to westy bars to get your drinks though, all they drink out there is bourbon and coke, they like the taste of sugar I think (instead of alcohol). I worked in bars in CBD for a couple of years and you gotta be a dip shit to fuck up a GnT, only addition I'd make would be to rim the glass with lime.
The Stranger
22nd October 2008, 16:23
Must thank you for the use of your Gold Card, did you enjoy your Pimms???
That's ok, I just hope you enjoyed the Pineapple juice later is all.
Ocean1
22nd October 2008, 17:30
a fancy label on a mass-produced swill.
Dude, we invented the continuous brewing process, this is the home of mass produced swill.
'Course everyone else's is mass produced too, just different swill.
jrandom
22nd October 2008, 17:42
Nice description of how to make a GnT, you must be goin to westy bars to get your drinks though, all they drink out there is bourbon and coke, they like the taste of sugar I think (instead of alcohol).
I don't, as a rule, go to bars. Certainly not the horrible noisy sorts full of lawyers and marketing consultants.
The only two drinking establishments in Auckland that I patronise on a regular basis are the Crow Bar, where I order whatever the guys there feel like making me at the time (they know way more about the art of drinking than I do) and Galbraiths, for porter and Laphroaig-by-the-glass.
doc
22nd October 2008, 17:52
Copied from the "Tall Spirits" home distilling newsletter.
PINK GIN ( Naval Officers only)
Trebel shot of Superior Dry Gin (The Juniper offsets gout)
Three dashes of Angostura Bitters (Wards off the Tropical gyp)
Iced water to taste (delays dehy-dration)
:wari:
Skyryder
22nd October 2008, 20:47
This is a bit off topic but I was watching some History Channel and there was this programme on living like they do in the dim dark ages like growing their own corn grinding it in a working mill, baking etc. Hell they even had pigs so that they could root up the ground to make easier to plough so it was primitive stuff. Anyway they were making beer etc and this woman making the beer was giving a speil how beer and ale are different. Beer has hops and it's the hops that act as a presevitive and allow the beer to 'keep' longer. Ale on the other hand has no hops and will not keep as long. This is all news to me as I thought ale and beer were no different.
Anyone got the 'real' oil on this?
Skyryder
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